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Patrick Swayze, best known for his role in Dirty Dancing, has been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer and told that he has just five weeks to live.
Swayze, 55, has been sick with the disease since he was diagnosed in late January with pancreatic cancer. The cancer has since spread to other organs and now the actor/dancer is dying.
For the past month, Swayze has been traveling to Stanford University's prestigious cancer center in Palo Alto for radical chemotherapy, but his doctors are no longer optimistic that the treatments will be successful, according to the National Enquirer.
Swayze received three treatments of chemotherapy, causing the tumor to shrink, but less than his doctors had hoped for. He was then told that he should prepare for the end.
http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=39197&cat=2
WTF ???
1st; Jeff Healy, now Patrick Swayze himself has terminal cancer?? Holy Sh*t! This Is Not Good!
Best Wishes are in order!
He doesn't seem the type to just curl up and die. I'm sure he'll fight it as long as possible.
I think it's time to not be nice to that cancer.
The whole "National Enquirer" bit of this gives me hope. I really hope this isn't true. For many reasons, of course, but also because if it is, I'm going to feel REALLY creepy about that Swayze-bathed-in-heavenly-light picture I posted yesterday in the "Are You Pondering" thread.
In case you need further hope, a few internet searches reveal that only a handful of other sources are reporting this, and all of them quote the Enquirer. Until a credible news outlet comes forward with actual sources, I'm calling this a hoax.
Anyone who quotes the National Enquirer as a source is automatically a joke.
Here's a Fox News story (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,335210,00.html) on the report, which basically echos the NE report, but also quotes a source that says "he's seemed fine lately". I say it's overblown shite.
I'm not sure..
FoxNews has picked up on the story..
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,335210,00.html (Jack beat me to it)
Quote from: Courtney on March 05, 2008, 11:23:27 AM
The whole "National Enquirer" bit of this gives me hope. I really hope this isn't true. For many reasons, of course, but also because if it is, I'm going to feel REALLY creepy about that Swayze-bathed-in-heavenly-light picture I posted yesterday in the "Are You Pondering" thread.
I was actually just thinking about that picture, creepy...
it could take on a whole new meaning...I hope not though. Poor guy.
Quote from: Courtney on March 05, 2008, 11:23:27 AM
The whole "National Enquirer" bit of this gives me hope. I really hope this isn't true. For many reasons, of course, but also because if it is, I'm going to feel REALLY creepy about that Swayze-bathed-in-heavenly-light picture I posted yesterday in the "Are You Pondering" thread.
Yeah, I've been trying to find some sort of confirmation outside the Enquirer's article, but no such luck yet.
And, after seeing that picture, I'm sure there's some poorly timed joke I could make about all the sudden having the urge to sit at a pottery wheel.
But....but....RED DAWN!
This is an elaborate ploy to prevent the Rifftrax of Red Dawn from happening.
ps. I love how everybody bashes the National Enquirer and then Fox News is treated like a credible news source.
Quote from: bettertomorrowamy on March 05, 2008, 11:33:56 AM
ps. I love how everybody bashes the National Enquirer and then Fox News is treated like a credible news source.
Oh here we go again... ::)
Quote from: bettertomorrowamy on March 05, 2008, 11:33:56 AM
ps. I love how everybody bashes the National Enquirer and then Fox News is treated like a credible news source.
c'mon, relatively speaking, Fox is a beacon of truth and integrity compared to the NE. Which is isn't saying much.
Quote from: SmilinJackRoss on March 05, 2008, 11:36:07 AM
Quote from: bettertomorrowamy on March 05, 2008, 11:33:56 AM
ps. I love how everybody bashes the National Enquirer and then Fox News is treated like a credible news source.
c'mon, relatively speaking, Fox is a beacon of truth and integrity compared to the NE. Which is isn't saying much.
True, but in this case, NE is Fox's only source as well. I still say hoax.
Quote from: bettertomorrowamy on March 05, 2008, 11:33:56 AM
But....but....RED DAWN!
This is an elaborate ploy to prevent the Rifftrax of Red Dawn from happening.
Not to mention Dirty Dancing, which together are my number 1 and 2 choices for upcoming tracks.
Quote from: skenderberg on March 05, 2008, 11:37:32 AM
True, but in this case, NE is Fox's only source as well. I still say hoax.
Well, that was my point. The Fox article states that a close source said he seemed fine lately.
Quote from: SmilinJackRoss on March 05, 2008, 11:38:11 AM
Quote from: skenderberg on March 05, 2008, 11:37:32 AM
True, but in this case, NE is Fox's only source as well. I still say hoax.
Well, that was my point. The Fox article states that a close source said he seemed fine lately.
Then we agree. Huzzah!
Quote from: Courtney on March 05, 2008, 11:37:58 AM
Quote from: bettertomorrowamy on March 05, 2008, 11:33:56 AM
But....but....RED DAWN!
This is an elaborate ploy to prevent the Rifftrax of Red Dawn from happening.
Not to mention Dirty Dancing, which together are my number 1 and 2 choices for upcoming tracks.
Or even a 3-man Re-Riff of 'Road House' :'(
Quote from: RVR II on March 05, 2008, 11:41:49 AM
Quote from: Courtney on March 05, 2008, 11:37:58 AM
Quote from: bettertomorrowamy on March 05, 2008, 11:33:56 AM
But....but....RED DAWN!
This is an elaborate ploy to prevent the Rifftrax of Red Dawn from happening.
Not to mention Dirty Dancing, which together are my number 1 and 2 choices for upcoming tracks.
Or even a 3-man Re-Riff of 'Road House' :'(
Or Point Break...
Let's face it, the man was a gift to us.
Quote from: DarthChimay on March 05, 2008, 11:42:46 AM
Quote from: RVR II on March 05, 2008, 11:41:49 AM
Quote from: Courtney on March 05, 2008, 11:37:58 AM
Quote from: bettertomorrowamy on March 05, 2008, 11:33:56 AM
But....but....RED DAWN!
This is an elaborate ploy to prevent the Rifftrax of Red Dawn from happening.
Not to mention Dirty Dancing, which together are my number 1 and 2 choices for upcoming tracks.
Or even a 3-man Re-Riff of 'Road House' :'(
Or Point Break...
Let's face it, the man was a gift to us.
I'm Really bummed right now about All this :-[
Quote from: RVR II on March 05, 2008, 11:44:20 AM
Quote from: DarthChimay on March 05, 2008, 11:42:46 AM
Quote from: RVR II on March 05, 2008, 11:41:49 AM
Quote from: Courtney on March 05, 2008, 11:37:58 AM
Quote from: bettertomorrowamy on March 05, 2008, 11:33:56 AM
But....but....RED DAWN!
This is an elaborate ploy to prevent the Rifftrax of Red Dawn from happening.
Not to mention Dirty Dancing, which together are my number 1 and 2 choices for upcoming tracks.
Or even a 3-man Re-Riff of 'Road House' :'(
Or Point Break...
Let's face it, the man was a gift to us.
I'm Really bummed right now about All this :-[
About what? The cancer that Patrick doesn't really have?
I hope it's not true, not just because I don't want the man to die (though I certainly don't), but also because I'd love to see the Enquirer get its butt handed to it.
Quote from: kodiakthejuggler on March 05, 2008, 11:35:36 AM
Quote from: bettertomorrowamy on March 05, 2008, 11:33:56 AM
ps. I love how everybody bashes the National Enquirer and then Fox News is treated like a credible news source.
Oh here we go again... ::)
Yeah I went there. They are a great place go if you want to
feel like you got some News.
Fingers crossed that this is just another hoax. Another Mikey from Life cereal or Sinbad or Ben Savage type thing. All rumored to be dead or dying and all totally fine.
Quote from: skenderberg on March 05, 2008, 11:45:24 AM
Quote from: RVR II on March 05, 2008, 11:44:20 AM
Quote from: DarthChimay on March 05, 2008, 11:42:46 AM
Quote from: RVR II on March 05, 2008, 11:41:49 AM
Quote from: Courtney on March 05, 2008, 11:37:58 AM
Quote from: bettertomorrowamy on March 05, 2008, 11:33:56 AM
But....but....RED DAWN!
This is an elaborate ploy to prevent the Rifftrax of Red Dawn from happening.
Not to mention Dirty Dancing, which together are my number 1 and 2 choices for upcoming tracks.
Or even a 3-man Re-Riff of 'Road House' :'(
Or Point Break...
Let's face it, the man was a gift to us.
I'm Really bummed right now about All this :-[
About what? The cancer the Patrick doesn't really have?
Well.. yeah.. I think.. :-\
Quote from: RVR II on March 05, 2008, 11:46:49 AM
Quote from: skenderberg on March 05, 2008, 11:45:24 AM
Quote from: RVR II on March 05, 2008, 11:44:20 AM
Quote from: DarthChimay on March 05, 2008, 11:42:46 AM
Quote from: RVR II on March 05, 2008, 11:41:49 AM
Quote from: Courtney on March 05, 2008, 11:37:58 AM
Quote from: bettertomorrowamy on March 05, 2008, 11:33:56 AM
But....but....RED DAWN!
This is an elaborate ploy to prevent the Rifftrax of Red Dawn from happening.
Not to mention Dirty Dancing, which together are my number 1 and 2 choices for upcoming tracks.
Or even a 3-man Re-Riff of 'Road House' :'(
Or Point Break...
Let's face it, the man was a gift to us.
I'm Really bummed right now about All this :-[
About what? The cancer the Patrick doesn't really have?
Well.. yeah.. I think.. :-\
I typo'd. Sorry. It should read, "About what? The cancer that Patrick doesn't really have?"
::) Do you think we could maybe leave the political diatribes out of the thread about a man possibly dying?
(Sorry, skenderberg, that wasn't for you. That was about Fox News.)
Quote from: SmilinJackRoss on March 05, 2008, 11:36:07 AM
Quote from: bettertomorrowamy on March 05, 2008, 11:33:56 AM
ps. I love how everybody bashes the National Enquirer and then Fox News is treated like a credible news source.
c'mon, relatively speaking, Fox is a beacon of truth and integrity compared to the NE. Which is isn't saying much.
I love how you quoted the text but made it readible. There was a reason he wrote it small (probably because he is so terribly shaken at the thought of Swayze's sickness, or he's just drunk).
Quote from: PlayMSTie on March 05, 2008, 11:52:06 AM
::) Do you think we could maybe leave the political diatribes out of the thread about a man possibly dying?
(Sorry, skenderberg, that wasn't for you. That was about Fox News.)
Oh yeah, sorry! I thought we were discussing whether or not this news is true.
Quote from: bettertomorrowamy on March 05, 2008, 11:54:17 AM
Oh yeah, sorry! I thought we were discussing whether or not this news is true.
That's what I thought too. Fox News doesn't often source well, but they found out that Swayze's still actively rehearsing his various projects. This seems to kill the "on his deathbed" nonsense.
Quote from: PlayMSTie on March 05, 2008, 11:52:06 AM
::) Do you think we could maybe leave the political diatribes out of the thread about a man possibly dying?
(Sorry, skenderberg, that wasn't for you. That was about Fox News.)
<sigh> It never is.
Aw, I'm sorry, skenderberg. I'll write you a nice post all for yourself someday.
I apologize for my rudeness, bta. I get a little tired of slams against Fox News, for various reasons, but this isn't the time or place, and that wasn't a very nice tone for me to take. I'm sorry.
Well, I apologize to The Swayze for my avatar. But I still think Mike should have him as a guest riffer. That's how I'd wanna go out.
Quote from: skenderberg on March 05, 2008, 11:58:46 AM
Quote from: bettertomorrowamy on March 05, 2008, 11:54:17 AM
Oh yeah, sorry! I thought we were discussing whether or not this news is true.
That's what I thought too. Fox News doesn't often source well, but they found out that Swayze's still actively rehearsing his various projects. This seems to kill the "on his deathbed" nonsense.
To be fair, though I agree that there is a certain dubious nature to this news, cancer can hit rapidly and brutally. He could very well have been rehearsing one week and near death the next. And the article doesn't say that he's on his deathbed yet.
I'm still scouring the web to see if Swayze himself has said anything about the news.
It wouldn't surprise me if Swayze really does have cancer, but it's par for the course for the National Enquirer to take news like "Patrick Swayze Diagnosed With Cancer" and run with the headline "SWAYZE HAS 5 WEEKS TO LIVE!!!"
Quote from: SmilinJackRoss on March 05, 2008, 12:14:52 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if Swayze really does have cancer, but it's par for the course for the National Enquirer to take news like "Patrick Swayze Diagnosed With Cancer" and run with the headline "SWAYZE HAS 5 WEEKS TO LIVE!!!"
True. Like the Grey's Anatomy guy who had a mole on his lip removed and OK! Magazine's next cover story was "Justin Chambers Cancer Devastation" or something. The tabs are nothing if not sensitive and rational.
Yeah, I'm waiting for the announcement from Swayze's reps before I start crying over whether or not Red Dawn is going to get riffed.
To further support the Enquirer (I know, huh?), pancreatic cancer is one of those fast cancers. Once diagnosed most people don't live 3-6 months. It's the cancer with the highest mortality rate and one of the quickest mortality rates. So, people do go from normal to dead in no time.
Of course, the Enquirer could have saddled him with pancreatic cancer just 'cause they know that and it sounds more believable than some other kind of cancer too.
http://www.pagesix.com/story/patrick+swayze+has+cancer
It's true. I'm going to cry.
QuoteDirty Dancing star Patrick Swayze has been diagnosed with terminal cancer and might only have weeks to live, a rep for the star said today.
The 55-year-old star's publicist confirmed to Page Six that he's suffering from pancreatic cancer, which could tragically bring down the curtain on his remarkably diverse career.
Patrick was diagnosed with the cancer more than a month ago.
The average life expectancy is six to nine months, with only 4 percent of patients living more than five years.
On February 5, Page Six reported that the Ghost star underwent a serious "gastrointestinal procedure" at Stanford University Medical Center. At the time, his spokesperson said that the treatment went well and he was "home and happy" following the procedure.
Patrick recently wrapped filming on the A&E TV movie The Beast, in which he plays an FBI agent. An insider at Sony Pictures tells PageSix.com there were no problems, "health or otherwise," while Patrick was filming.
Okay. I was wrong, and this is very sad.
Aww. That's a shame. :(
Quote from: Imrahil on March 05, 2008, 02:01:08 PM
Well, that sucks for him and his family.
And maybe there should be a brief riffatorium, but I don't think this counts out his movies from riffability forever.
Agreed! It will probably delay the chances of them being riff'd now.. :'( :'(
poor guy, ive fought cancer myself (luckily i won) and those chemo treatments are no fun. It's a tough battle that sadly you just can't win :'(
Quote from: RVR II on March 05, 2008, 02:02:57 PM
Quote from: Imrahil on March 05, 2008, 02:01:08 PM
Well, that sucks for him and his family.
And maybe there should be a brief riffatorium, but I don't think this counts out his movies from riffability forever.
Agreed! It will probably delay the chances of them being riff'd now.. :'( :'(
I dunno... maybe it would be a good way to send him out. Fire up the iPod, pop in Next of Kin, and have a few laughs and a few tears.
Quote from: DarthChimay on March 05, 2008, 02:31:44 PM
Quote from: RVR II on March 05, 2008, 02:02:57 PM
Quote from: Imrahil on March 05, 2008, 02:01:08 PM
Well, that sucks for him and his family.
And maybe there should be a brief riffatorium, but I don't think this counts out his movies from riffability forever.
Agreed! It will probably delay the chances of them being riff'd now.. :'( :'(
I dunno... maybe it would be a good way to send him out. Fire up the iPod, pop in Next of Kin, and have a few laughs and a few tears.
I'd be a very, very, very fine line to walk between tribute and bad taste. If I were Mike, I wouldn't even attempt to walk it.
Quote from: skenderberg on March 05, 2008, 02:33:49 PM
Quote from: DarthChimay on March 05, 2008, 02:31:44 PM
Quote from: RVR II on March 05, 2008, 02:02:57 PM
Quote from: Imrahil on March 05, 2008, 02:01:08 PM
Well, that sucks for him and his family.
And maybe there should be a brief riffatorium, but I don't think this counts out his movies from riffability forever.
Agreed! It will probably delay the chances of them being riff'd now.. :'( :'(
I dunno... maybe it would be a good way to send him out. Fire up the iPod, pop in Next of Kin, and have a few laughs and a few tears.
I'd be a very, very, very fine line to walk between tribute and bad taste. If I were Mike, I wouldn't even attempt to walk it.
Yeah, I don't think they'll go there. It just wouldn't go over too well in general.
This from an hour ago:
Patrick Swayze, who starred in Dirty Dancing and Ghost, has been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, his doctor says.
"Patrick has a very limited amount of disease and he appears to be responding well to treatment thus far," Dr. Patrick George says in a statement. "All of the reports stating the time frame of his prognosis and his physical side effects are absolutely untrue. We are considerably more optimistic."
The actor's rep adds: "Patrick is continuing his normal schedule during this time, which includes working on upcoming projects. The outpouring of support and concern he has already received from the public is deeply appreciated by Patrick and his family."
Well that's good news!
Is it too soon to Riff a Swayze movie to celebrate?
Quote from: torgosPizza on March 05, 2008, 03:20:13 PM
This from an hour ago:
Patrick Swayze, who starred in Dirty Dancing and Ghost, has been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, his doctor says.
"Patrick has a very limited amount of disease and he appears to be responding well to treatment thus far," Dr. Patrick George says in a statement. "All of the reports stating the time frame of his prognosis and his physical side effects are absolutely untrue. We are considerably more optimistic."
The actor's rep adds: "Patrick is continuing his normal schedule during this time, which includes working on upcoming projects. The outpouring of support and concern he has already received from the public is deeply appreciated by Patrick and his family."
Well, That's Gr8 to hear! :clap: :clap:
Hurry with the Riff's then! :highfive:
My sister in law just called about this. Very Sad but hopefully not hopeless.
Doubt it would happen, but WHAT IF...
Patrick Swayze as a Guest Riffer??? :o
He should sue "The Enquirer." That plus guest riffing would be a GREAT way to keep his spirits up!
I'm taking a cue from BTA and changing my avatar to Swayze as well.
Keep your spirits up, Swayze.
Sounds like a nice idea
when in Rome...
what, too explicit?
Nah, I love it. It was his breakout role!
Quote from: SmilinJackRoss on March 05, 2008, 11:38:11 AM
Quote from: skenderberg on March 05, 2008, 11:37:32 AM
True, but in this case, NE is Fox's only source as well. I still say hoax.
Well, that was my point. The Fox article states that a close source said he seemed fine lately.
I'm not sure what to believe. Remember Paul McCartney said George Harrison was fine a few days before his death.
First Jeff Healey, then Patrick Swayze. Crap, going by Road House that means Sam Elliott ain't too far behind....
Quote from: torgosPizza on March 05, 2008, 03:20:13 PM
"Patrick is continuing his normal schedule during this time, which includes working on upcoming projects."
I totally bought it until I got to that part. Now I don't know what to believe.
At the very least we should change St. Patrick's Day to St. Patrick Swayze Day.
It's the least we can do for this man.
Quote from: Zandrax on March 05, 2008, 04:18:32 PM
At the very least we should change St. Patrick's Day to St. Patrick Swayze Day.
It's the least we can do for this man.
That's a genius idea
Quote from: bettertomorrowamy on March 05, 2008, 04:19:35 PM
Quote from: Zandrax on March 05, 2008, 04:18:32 PM
At the very least we should change St. Patrick's Day to St. Patrick Swayze Day.
It's the least we can do for this man.
That's a genius idea
Instead of corned beef and green beer, we'll have short ribs and Red (Dawn) beer.
Quote from: Imrahil on March 05, 2008, 04:20:03 PM
No, the least we can do is absolutely nothing. Which is what I'll be doing. To be honest (callous?) whether he lives or dies doen't affect me one iota. I'll feel slightly sorry for his family for about a minute, but honestly...it's Patrick Swayze.
I must shun you now!
First it's Trumpet players. Now it's Swayze! You make me sad sir!
looks like someone beat John Edward (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Biggest_Douche_in_the_Universe)
;D
Quote from: Imrahil on March 05, 2008, 04:20:03 PM
No, the least we can do is absolutely nothing. Which is what I'll be doing. To be honest (callous?) whether he lives or dies doen't affect me one iota. I'll feel slightly sorry for his family for about a minute, but honestly...it's Patrick Swayze.
I dunno... I find it kinda sad to think of a world without Dalton. And without him, we would never have a Patrick Swayze Christmas.
Quote from: Zandrax on March 05, 2008, 04:18:32 PM
At the very least we should change St. Patrick's Day to St. Patrick Swayze Day.
It's the least we can do for this man.
What would he be the Saint of, though? It can't be beer. That's already taken.
Quote from: bettertomorrowamy on March 05, 2008, 04:19:35 PM
Quote from: Zandrax on March 05, 2008, 04:18:32 PM
At the very least we should change St. Patrick's Day to St. Patrick Swayze Day.
It's the least we can do for this man.
That's a genius idea
I concur. Flocky doesn't think so because St. Patrick Swayze Day is his birthday, but I will convince him otherwise
Quote from: Imrahil on March 05, 2008, 04:27:39 PM
We have Dalton, though. That's not going anywhere. The rest is just a bit of insincerity and attention-mongering.
I can say this completely honestly: I love Patrick Swayze. I love Dirty Dancing, To Wong Foo, and Ghost. For all their cheesiness, I love Road House and Red Dawn. The Outsiders and Donnie Darko are two great movies. So with all the sincerity in the world and without the slightest bit of attention-mongering, I love the guy and will miss him when he's gone. Very sad.
Quote from: Courtney on March 05, 2008, 05:00:42 PM
Quote from: Imrahil on March 05, 2008, 04:27:39 PM
We have Dalton, though. That's not going anywhere. The rest is just a bit of insincerity and attention-mongering.
I can say this completely honestly: I love Patrick Swayze. I love Dirty Dancing, To Wong Foo, and Ghost. For all their cheesiness, I love Road House and Red Dawn. The Outsiders and Donnie Darko are two great movies. So with all the sincerity in the world and without the slightest bit of attention-mongering, I love the guy and will miss him when he's gone. Very sad.
Huzzah! I concur.
AW'ITE! P.S. is Represented!
We're With Ya Brah!! :cheers:
Well, I don't love Patrick Swayze and I'm sure his death won't affect me personally, however I'm saddened by anyone and everyone who has to face something like cancer. I feel the same pain for Patrick that I'd feel if one of you said your sister/brother/father had pancreatic cancer.
I really just wish him well. Not that any cancer is fun, but this is one of the worst, the best part being that it's often over quickly.
Here's to hoping he's a fighter. I want to see Red Dawn part 2.
I think St. Patrick Swayze Day would be marvelous.
Quote from: AmandaGal on March 05, 2008, 05:41:27 PM
Well, I don't love Patrick Swayze and I'm sure his death won't affect me personally, however I'm saddened by anyone and everyone who has to face something like cancer. I feel the same pain for Patrick that I'd feel if one of you said your sister/brother/father had pancreatic cancer.
Yep. It's just sad to hear of ANYONE -- someone who won multiple Oscars, someone who made a few hokey movies, someone you never heard of -- having to deal with a painful, life-threatening illness. It tends to bring out the goodwill in people.
Never send to know for whom the bell tolls . . .
Latest from MSN...
http://movies.msn.com/movies/article.aspx?news=304120>1=7701
One of my, & Mike Nelson's Fave's...
No! This one is the best!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-102059789583424831&q=swayze+chris+farley&total=132&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
:D :D :D
True That!
I just read that Steve Jobs has pancreatic cancer too. He had a neuroendocrine tumor of the pancreas (according to the story I read) and not the really bad kind Apparently he's fine now.
Weird.
Patrick Swayze has been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, but as of now has been given a good prognosis for recovery:
http://www.kfab.com/cc-common/news/sections/entertainmentarticle.html?feed=104665&article=3368542 (http://www.kfab.com/cc-common/news/sections/entertainmentarticle.html?feed=104665&article=3368542)
I know we're all behind The Swayze.
We are, as seen in this thread:
http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php/topic,7901.0.html
And someone already used your punny title too.
D'oh! I used the search box to find "cancer" and didn't see the thread on the other forum.
Oh well. Best wishes to The Swayze.
I was gone for one 8 hours and I come back and everyone has Swayze avatars. Took me a minute to figure out what what's going on. I certainly hope that the later reports are closer to the truth than the first couple. Hope he gets better. It's a very bad stretch for the cast of Road House, but please nobody start with the "Bad things come in 3's" stuff.
if anyone wants to see a weird swazye movie, i recomend keeping mum
Quotebut please nobody start with the "Bad things come in 3's" stuff.
Bad things come to those who star in Roadhouse.
You know I find this to be really sad because poor Jeff Healey just died of lung cancer. :speechless:
Quote from: GLaDOS on March 06, 2008, 12:38:06 AM
You know I find this to be really sad because poor Jeff Healey just died of lung cancer. :speechless:
But he's been fighting a rare form of cancer (that robbed him of his eyesight) all his life...
We can't let them take Sam Elliott too! Whatever evil force hellbent on destroying the cast of Road House musst be vanquished. AT ALL COSTS!!
Julie Michaels is still pretty hot by the way, especially for a stuntwoman.
Seriously though, all smartass comments aside, Patrick Swayze seems like a genuinely nice guy. Hopes and prayers that he can beat this thing. Somebody on another board told me that pancreatic cancer only has a 20% survival rate.
Quote from: Imrahil on March 05, 2008, 04:27:39 PM
We have Dalton, though. That's not going anywhere. The rest is just a bit of insincerity and attention-mongering.
I'm not sure I understand...are you saying that us talking about it and wishing him well is attention-mongering?
Well, in an odd bit of synchronicity, I just received word that an old friend of the family discovered yesterday that she also has pancreatic cancer. Unfortunately, she's had chemo in the past and the type used to combat pancreatic cancer isn't one that she's responded favorably to, so the doctor's prognosis was basically, "Try to enjoy what time you have left."
This has not been a good week.
Quote from: Compound on March 06, 2008, 07:44:23 AM
Well, in an odd bit of synchronicity, I just received word that an old friend of the family discovered yesterday that she also has pancreatic cancer. Unfortunately, she's had chemo in the past and the type used to combat pancreatic cancer isn't one that she's responded favorably to, so the doctor's prognosis was basically, "Try to enjoy what time you have left."
This has not been a good week.
sorry to hear about that! I wish her the best!
I hope this turns out for the best. If he's been diagnosed since the end of January, and his doctors are saying it's very limited and looks to be optimistic, then I think we all have reason for hope.
Quote from: Compound on March 06, 2008, 07:44:23 AM
Well, in an odd bit of synchronicity, I just received word that an old friend of the family discovered yesterday that she also has pancreatic cancer. Unfortunately, she's had chemo in the past and the type used to combat pancreatic cancer isn't one that she's responded favorably to, so the doctor's prognosis was basically, "Try to enjoy what time you have left."
This has not been a good week.
gosh, that's terrible, I'm sorry
Looks like I need to get with the times.
Quote from: Compound on March 06, 2008, 07:44:23 AM
Well, in an odd bit of synchronicity, I just received word that an old friend of the family discovered yesterday that she also has pancreatic cancer. Unfortunately, she's had chemo in the past and the type used to combat pancreatic cancer isn't one that she's responded favorably to, so the doctor's prognosis was basically, "Try to enjoy what time you have left."
This has not been a good week.
That's terrible news,
Compound. I'm sorry.
You know, Imrahil, there is a difference between genuine curmudgeonliness and affected cynicism.
My heart is with your Friend Compound
I don't think that's the issue. No one else here has said they're going to lose sleep over it either.
Of course grief over celebrities can get way out of control; witness Diana-mania. But there's a big distance between that, and a little sympathy and commiseration and a few new avatars on a message board.
Quote from: PlayMSTie on March 06, 2008, 10:40:40 AM
I don't think that's the issue. No one else here has said they're going to lose sleep over it either.
Of course grief over celebrities can get way out of control; witness Diana-mania. But there's a big distance between that, and a little sympathy and commiseration and a few new avatars on a message board.
Eh. He's entitled to his opinion.
Sure he is. I was just sharing mine.
Oh, and Compound, I'm sorry to hear your bad news. Prayer offered for your friend.
Sharing is Caring :P
What I truly remember Patrick Swayze for is when he did the SNL Chippendale's skit with Chris Farley. While I've never really been a fan of his movies, he proved right there was that he was a good guy and he had the ability to laugh at himself. So, for that, I feel for the guy. I hope the story's all a pile of crap and he ends up okay.
For that reason I wish he would riff Red Dawn, or whatever movie he wants, with Mike sometime. Maybe after he gets better.
Quote from: MSTJedi on March 06, 2008, 12:05:18 PM
What I truly remember Patrick Swayze for is when he did the SNL Chippendale's skit with Chris Farley. While I've never really been a fan of his movies, he proved right there was that he was a good guy and he had the ability to laugh at himself. So, for that, I feel for the guy. I hope the story's all a pile of crap and he ends up okay.
That is my favorite as well! I do also love Dirty Dancing and Ghost always made me cry! Oh I sure hope he can recover from this!!!!
I don't think his cancer story is entirely crap. Heck, they announced it on our radio station today!
I just hope they caught it in time to nip it in the bud.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/TV/03/06/goldberg.swayze.cancer.ap/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/TV/03/06/goldberg.swayze.cancer.ap/index.html)
Whoopi Goldberg says her friend Patrick Swayze -- who was recently diagnosed with pancreatic cancer -- is the reason she won an Oscar for "Ghost."
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Quote from: Imrahil on March 06, 2008, 12:54:13 PM
Quote from: PlayMSTie on March 06, 2008, 10:44:59 AM
Sure he is. I was just sharing mine.
Oh, and Compound, I'm sorry to hear your bad news. Prayer offered for your friend.
Yeah, actually the idea of Compound's friend being sick is more troublesome, because it affects someone I know--even if it's only peripherally. So I do offer genuine well-wishes here. And I do, on some abstract level, wish the best for PS. But not on any level where I actually -feel- anything, you know?
[/curmudgeon]
I do understand. You can't force feelings, especially about someone you don't know.
Why couldn't crap like this happen to some D-list celebrity who no one cares about like Kathy Griffin or something.... Sorry if that sounded really insensitive. I hate that woman and think she is an abomination to comedy and acting. Patrick seems like one of the nicest guys on the planet. He is a great actor and can poke fun of himself. All around good guy and great actor.
I wish you a speedy recovery and a long life Pat.
Quote from: Rattrap007 on March 06, 2008, 05:25:17 PM
Why couldn't crap like this happen to some D-list celebrity who no one cares about like Kathy Griffin or something.... Sorry if that sounded really insensitive.
Wish she'd get fired and never be seen on television again. Not cancer.
I'm not saying I WANT her to have cancer... just if I had a choice of what celebrity I HAD to give it to... it would be her...
I quite like Kathy Griffin, I'd be sad if she had cancer.
Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on March 06, 2008, 06:46:36 PM
I quite like Kathy Griffin, I'd be sad if she had cancer.
yeah, me too, after all her husband was stealing money from her and I'm gonna stop now before I start to sound like the Leave Britney alone guy(?)
how 'bout someone nobody likes like CARROT TOP
Oh yeah Carrot Top no problem, not cancer but complete disappearance from the public eye.
well honestly, if I had
my pick
Spoiler
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I just hate him so much! :angry: :grr:
Edit - is this pic better?
Quote from: jacobtaylor on March 06, 2008, 07:02:51 PM
well honestly, if I had my pick
Spoiler
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Ah IMDB makes it very difficult to link to their pictures :)
Quote from: Imrahil on March 06, 2008, 07:38:18 PM
I wouldn't give cancer to anyone.
I like wishing unpleasant but ultimately harmless things on people.
Oh, yeah. Thanks for making me oversleep today. Bastard!
QuoteWhy couldn't crap like this happen to some D-list celebrity who no one cares about
What makes you think crap like this DOESN'T happen to some D-list celebrity who no one cares about and you just don't hear about it because they're some D-list celebrity who no one cares about? Patrick Swayze is C-list at best. You're hearing about him here because of his constant cheesy movie roles, which kicks him up to Joe Don Baker levels of A-listedness. But consider the context. I mean, what's the last Patrick Swayze movie you went to see?
I hope that Patrick Swayze and others like him recover soon. I'm sure all of you out there will share my wishes with a great big "DITTO".
Quote from: Imrahil on March 06, 2008, 07:38:18 PM
I wouldn't give cancer to anyone.
I like wishing unpleasant but ultimately harmless things on people.
Like when someone cuts me off in traffic, I think, "I hope you get a zit inside your nostril," or if I'm quite angry, "I hope you get a benign tumor, but have to wait 48 hours to get the biopsy results."
And of course the ever-popular "May the fleas of a thousand camels inherit your armpits."
Quote from: Rattrap007 on March 06, 2008, 05:25:17 PM
Why couldn't crap like this happen to some D-list celebrity who no one cares about like Kathy Griffin or something.... Sorry if that sounded really insensitive. I hate that woman and think she is an abomination to comedy and acting. Patrick seems like one of the nicest guys on the planet. He is a great actor and can poke fun of himself. All around good guy and great actor.
I wish you a speedy recovery and a long life Pat.
Wow....wishing someone cancer.
Thank god you didn't make a
joke....people would be
really mad at you then.
BTW, AMC is showing
Red Dawn tonight at 10:15 EST - don't know if it's because of this or just a coincidence.
And for those of you who love that Chippendales SNL bit....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw-eQ3XU-5c&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw-eQ3XU-5c&feature=related)
(for some reason it won't embed)
Looking at him there - looks like he takes care of himself, a dancer, athletic - makes me think of Lewis Black on "The Daily Show". Paraphrasing, he was saying that Leni Riefenstahl (Hitler's filmmaker) dies at the age of 101....and not very long before John Ritter (who's never done anything really to anybody as far as we know) drops dead suddenly in his Fifties of a heart defect that doctors wouldn't have found even if they were looking for something...if that's not proof there is no God.... :'(
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Quote from: Rattrap007 on March 06, 2008, 05:25:17 PM
Why couldn't crap like this happen to some D-list celebrity who no one cares about like Kathy Griffin or something.... Sorry if that sounded really insensitive. I hate that woman and think she is an abomination to comedy and acting. Patrick seems like one of the nicest guys on the planet. He is a great actor and can poke fun of himself. All around good guy and great actor.
I wish you a speedy recovery and a long life Pat.
Wow....wishing someone cancer.
Thank god you didn't make a joke....people would be really mad at you then.
BTW, AMC is showing Red Dawn tonight at 10:15 EST - don't know if it's because of this or just a coincidence.
And for those of you who love that Chippendales SNL bit....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw-eQ3XU-5c&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw-eQ3XU-5c&feature=related)
(for some reason it won't embed)
Looking at him there - looks like he takes care of himself, a dancer, athletic - makes me think of Lewis Black on "The Daily Show". Paraphrasing, he was saying that Leni Riefenstahl (Hitler's filmmaker) dies at the age of 101....and not very long before John Ritter (who's never done anything really to anybody as far as we know) drops dead suddenly in his Fifties of a heart defect that doctors wouldn't have found even if they were looking for something...if that's not proof there is no God.... :'(
i looked for it on youtube, but i could only find it on google video. (which i posted on page 2, i belive. maybe i posted it somewhere else)
anyway, LONG LIVE THE SWAYZ
You know, I'm shocked... SHOCKED.. no one has posted this video yet...
Spoiler
Totally Tangential Note (tm): I always forget how good of a singer Kevin Murphy is.
And I would be lying if I hadn't secretly, in my deepest darkest places, wished bad things on Joey Lawrence. Mostly baldness, but still...
Wolverines.
Edited to add spoiler thingie...
Well it isn't Christmas so there is that.
Quote from: Compound on March 06, 2008, 07:44:23 AM
Well, in an odd bit of synchronicity, I just received word that an old friend of the family discovered yesterday that she also has pancreatic cancer. Unfortunately, she's had chemo in the past and the type used to combat pancreatic cancer isn't one that she's responded favorably to, so the doctor's prognosis was basically, "Try to enjoy what time you have left."
This has not been a good week.
Compound, keeping your friend in my thoughts.
Just found out the doctors think my grandpa has lung cancer. Now I have to write my Swayze article, which is sad as it is, and try to keep it a semi-happy tribute and my grandpa's all I'll be able to think about. Indeed, this has not been a good week.
Is there something in the fucking water or something?
There does seem to have been a huge upswing in cases. When I was little my nan passed from breast cancer and it seemed really unusual (admittedly I was little but the grown ups in my family also seemed to find it really unheard of) now cancer seems like something you're lucky, almost unlikely, not to have a personal brush with at some point in your life :(
Courtney & Compound, my best wishes are with your loved ones.
Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on March 07, 2008, 04:26:18 PM
There does seem to have been a huge upswing in cases. When I was little my nan passed from breast cancer and it seemed really unusual (admittedly I was little but the grown ups in my family also seemed to find it really unheard of) now cancer seems like something you're lucky, almost unlikely, not to have a personal brush with at some point in your life :(
Part of it is that we're living longer and cancer inevitable happens to everyone/everything if they live long enough (wow, that was happy). It's just that the older you are, the more likely your cells are to make a mistake. Another part of it is that everyone has a mammogram now (well, women) and everyone has a colonscopy and we have PET scans and blood tests, etc that we never had before. Just 20 years ago, people would have died from some cancers that we can detect and now and it would have been assumed to be because some other disease and not cancer. So, part of it is knowledge and detection. Then, another part of it is the "information super highway." We communicate so easily nowadays. Your distant cousin who you never see can text you in 5 minutes now, but back then you might have just heard he died and never knew why.
I'm not sure if I believe the actual rates are going up, but I'm also not sure I believe they aren't.
I kind of feel like this is my fault . . . .
Last sunday I'd finally managed to convince my boyfriend and our friend to watch the Rifftrax of Roadhouse. But then our friend chickened out because he didn't want to go to the video store, so we ended up watching Night of the Living Dead (which didn't sych up right).
The next day, Jeff Heley was dead.
Two days later, Patrick Swayze announced he has cancer.
Coincidence?
XOXO,
Libby
You are shunned!
I take it back, I don't wish cancer on Haley Joel Osment, no matter how much I hate him
this guy however
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Is that the Westboro Baptist Church idiot?
the one and only
Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on March 07, 2008, 04:26:18 PM
There does seem to have been a huge upswing in cases. When I was little my nan passed from breast cancer and it seemed really unusual (admittedly I was little but the grown ups in my family also seemed to find it really unheard of) now cancer seems like something you're lucky, almost unlikely, not to have a personal brush with at some point in your life :(
Sometimes it seems like every third person in my church has cancer, plus my mom, plus my grandmother, plus my best friend (all three happily recovered now, thank God) . . . it's endless.
On the other hand, I remember C. S. Lewis writing about how his mother, father, and wife had all died of cancer. Maybe it wasn't as rare back in the old days as we tend to think from our perspective.
cs lewis was only writing that in the 50s maybe even the 40s, shouldnt the old days be longer ago than that.
I think the ol'days should be when only 10% or less of the population remembers them. Seems like a fair number.
Quote from: PlayMSTie on March 09, 2008, 04:54:57 PM
Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on March 07, 2008, 04:26:18 PM
There does seem to have been a huge upswing in cases. When I was little my nan passed from breast cancer and it seemed really unusual (admittedly I was little but the grown ups in my family also seemed to find it really unheard of) now cancer seems like something you're lucky, almost unlikely, not to have a personal brush with at some point in your life :(
Sometimes it seems like every third person in my church has cancer, plus my mom, plus my grandmother, plus my best friend (all three happily recovered now, thank God) . . . it's endless.
On the other hand, I remember C. S. Lewis writing about how his mother, father, and wife had all died of cancer. Maybe it wasn't as rare back in the old days as we tend to think from our perspective.
Your experiences at church probably aren't coincidence, most people that are terminal or related to someone who died tragically or is terminal, become very religious. So ergo, a lot of people in church are going to have cancer or know someone that has it.
I think all diseases are in an upswing. Imo medicine has just delayed the inevitable . In ecology we were taught a great deal about population thresholds. The human population is way way over the amount our world can sustain. Basically if the population keeps going up over this limit, your in for a big crash. In our case it's going to be cancer, crazy viruses, weird diseases like autism.....on and on. It's a biproduct of our lifestyle. We can get anything we want, but it all has consequences. We're effectively controlling our own evolution and unfortunately there are going to be problems. Children arent going through puberty at the age of 10 for no reason. :-\ It's not the end of the world, but more of another step, forward or even backwards, depending on how we handle these issues and than a lot of it, is completely out of our control. Kinda went too deep sorry
Considering that children used to be married and having kids themselves at the age of 16/17, I don't know that puberty age has decreased that much. The studies that I've read have only found a difference when they compared the poor and undernourished of "olden time" to people of today. Of course you're not going to go through puberty as soon if you're not eating enough to sustain your own normal body functions, which was fairly common in olden times. You see that in animals too and even anorexia stops a woman's menstruation. I'm not saying that I've read every study out there, but the ones that I have found the menstrual age in the rich in "olden time" was comparable to today.
It's weird that, before our time, people used to be considered old maids in their 20s. Individuals we consider as "children" now (and who act like children) used to have families, farms, etc (out of necessity more than want probably). Not that that is the better way, but we've imposed our views of chastity and obedience on a group that once had a whole lot more freedom (and sense). Not that I would encourage any of the 17 year olds I know to have kids and start a farm. They are very immature, but apparently that wasn't always the case.
You made me think A LOT
I just think there's more "rich" people. I feel even lower classes are rich compared to the pre-1900's. I mean I'm not well off, however I have way more than enough food, shelter, 2 cars, toys, and more than enough luxuries, but I'm considered poor.
My point, most of the kids have everything they need, comparatively; Including estrogen in the water supply. Which actually could be the real reason girls menstate earlier. Basically it's from women receiving estrogen replacement therapy, pass their estogen to the water supp;y, because it doesn't break down quickly.....Think of all the meds we take now........hell, kids on adderall. Medicine is changing everything.
Quote from: Quicksilver on March 09, 2008, 07:24:31 PM
I think all diseases are in an upswing.
Is that a joke?
Quote from: Quicksilver on March 09, 2008, 07:24:31 PM
The human population is way way over the amount our world can sustain.
HORSESHIT. Prove it.
Quote from: Quicksilver on March 09, 2008, 07:24:31 PM
Basically if the population keeps going up over this limit, your in for a big crash. In our case it's going to be cancer, crazy viruses, weird diseases like autism.....on and on. It's a biproduct of our lifestyle. We can get anything we want, but it all has consequences.
All stated with the certitude that can only come from a complete lack of objective evidence.
I'm not going to argue... believe what you want
Like kids today really drink water. We should be testing the sodas :)
There was an article about drugs in the water linked to the reputable beacon of public information known as slashdot today (in other words, take with a grain of salt).
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080309/ap_on_re_us/pharmawater_i_4;_ylt=ArJ7VfgNcnDbrdEsPogmg7gE1vAI
Is it mean and horrible that I laughed out loud when I read this, "A sex hormone was detected in San Francisco's drinking water." Explains a lot about San Fran!
My opinion, since I'm a pharmacist I know a little about drug effects on the body. I find it hard to believe that trace amounts of most drugs would have any long term effects at all. They don't even have any long term effects on the people who use them (blood pressure medications: you stop taking them and your blood pressure goes up, etc). Even some of the negative effects go away when you stop the drug because the body has organs (kidney, liver, intestines) that constantly filter those drugs out. The long term effects that stay around are when a drug damages and organ or cell, which they can and will do, but most of that is even dose related. We routinely do "drug levels" on patients and the only ones who have even have therapeutic doses of drugs stay around are people who have problems with their major organs.
Your body also adjusts its own production of hormones based on the hormones you're given. That's why when you take prednisone, you have to take 5 today, 4 tomorrow, 3, 2, 1...it's "tapering" the dose. Your adrenal glands says, "eh, you're getting all the cortisol you need. I'm going to take a nap" but when you start getting less and less, it says, "Hmm, I better kick it up." Estrogen is similar as are the male sex hormones.
Your body tries very hard to keep itself balanced. Transgender people have to take a whopping dose to overcome that natural urge of the body to regulate. For the estrogens, they take 4-5 times the recommended dose and the dose we give to normal women is small to begin with.
Until I see real evidence to contrary, I'm not going to worry about my water.
Quote from: AmandaGal on March 09, 2008, 09:13:45 PM
There was an article about drugs in the water linked to the reputable beacon of public information known as slashdot today (in other words, take with a grain of salt).
At first glance I could have sworn that said "reputable
bacon of public information." Damn you, Bill Corbett.
i heard the blind singer from roadhouse died too at some point recently of cancer. this is sad shit.
heh i was gonna respond to qiucksilver but beenie put it more succinctly than i ever could (granted it turned out quicksilver was more into talking than in a conversation as she merely dissmissed rather than eaborate) and amanda who pointed out things i was gonna point out albeit less intelligently.
mmmm, beacon
Quote from: sarcasm_made_Easy on March 10, 2008, 12:40:21 AM
heh i was gonna respond to qiucksilver but beenie put it more succinctly than i ever could (granted it turned out quicksilver was more into talking than in a conversation as she merely dissmissed rather than eaborate)
more like beenie was so harsh with her rebuttal quicksilver probably decided there was no point in elaborating. i prefer that over useless arguements where no one actually reads the other persons post they just wait for the post to finish (i am not saying sarc or beenie do this. You know who i'm talkin bout)
Quote from: sarcasm_made_Easy on March 09, 2008, 06:54:51 PM
cs lewis was only writing that in the 50s maybe even the 40s, shouldnt the old days be longer ago than that.
He wrote it in the '50s, but his parents died in 1908 and 1929 respectively.
Quote from: Quicksilver
Your experiences at church probably aren't coincidence, most people that are terminal or related to someone who died tragically or is terminal, become very religious. So ergo, a lot of people in church are going to have cancer or know someone that has it.
It's the other way around. People who've been going there for years have gotten cancer; they haven't gotten it and started coming (at least not in most cases). I honestly wonder sometimes if the building should be tested for toxins!
Quote from: Quicksilver
The human population is way way over the amount our world can sustain.
You haven't read much in recent years about population trends in places like Europe and Japan, have you?
Quote from: PlayMSTie on March 10, 2008, 07:47:09 AM
Quote from: Quicksilver
Your experiences at church probably aren't coincidence, most people that are terminal or related to someone who died tragically or is terminal, become very religious. So ergo, a lot of people in church are going to have cancer or know someone that has it.
It's the other way around. People who've been going there for years have gotten cancer; they haven't gotten it and started coming (at least not in most cases). I honestly wonder sometimes if the building should be tested for toxins!
Are they all the same kind (or related kinds) of cancer?" Because there might be something to that if that's the case.
No, several different kinds. But still, it seems weird sometimes. Of course, it's a big church close to an urban area, and I suppose it's likely that any large group in that situation might have a large incidence of cancer. My parents go to a different church not far away, and their church started a prayer ministry just for people who have cancer. It's usually a pretty long list.
I've been tied to a wooden stake in my sleep :o Ok you've all called me on drugs in the water having an effect, the population being over limit, girls menstruating earlier, antibiotics and drugs causing immunity weakness and drug resistance, cancer on the rise, and people in church.
Yes, let me type up my thesis right now in response, to more opinions. Obviously I cannot be right about everything and I know that. I see this more as a big picture, not a four fold inevitable cluster fuck that we cannot escape. I think we need to be aware at what is going on around us. This really is far to complicated of issues to debate on a forum.
I'm not going to copy and paste crap, anyone can do that and unless it's a scientific article I'm not showing it nor taking it as counter argument. I once spent about 40 days teaching people on a forum about evolution, not easy, it's not easy to teach much of this. If I had a debate with another ecologist, ok, but that would be like amanda trying to teach us how to make tylenol.....idk. ;D and then us having a debate on the best way buffer such and such reaction in step 5 of the assay.
I've written and erased my response about 5 times now, ya know what with reactions like I got, I'm not touching any of this, research it on your own, come to your own conclusions. Cancer sucks, disease sucks, Patrick Swayze's cool......peace out.
Quote from: Quicksilver on March 10, 2008, 10:42:27 AM
.....girls menstruating earlier....
That's already been tied to growth hormones given to chickens and cows.
Quote from: mistressrylie on March 09, 2008, 11:52:18 PM
i heard the blind singer from roadhouse died too at some point recently of cancer. this is sad shit.
Yeah, Jeff Healy.
He was a pretty good blues performer.
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on March 10, 2008, 11:07:28 AM
Quote from: Quicksilver on March 10, 2008, 10:42:27 AM
.....girls menstruating earlier....
That's already been tied to growth hormones given to chickens and cows.
http://www.mindfully.org/Health/Earlier-Puberty-Doubters.htm (http://www.mindfully.org/Health/Earlier-Puberty-Doubters.htm)
Quote from: Courtney on March 09, 2008, 10:03:51 PM
Quote from: AmandaGal on March 09, 2008, 09:13:45 PM
There was an article about drugs in the water linked to the reputable beacon of public information known as slashdot today (in other words, take with a grain of salt).
At first glance I could have sworn that said "reputable bacon of public information." Damn you, Bill Corbett.
No... BLESS you, Bill Corbett, for reminding us to take time and focus on what's
really important...
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you could have used a more recent article, 2001 is a bit old. I think the scary part is A. were debating this and B. that know one really knows what the hell is going on with kids and even more recently what going to happen with the drugs in the water......they just dont know. Did you happen to see/read the rather big story from today that's actually about this very topic?
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Steak Bacon!
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Quote from: Quicksilver on March 10, 2008, 12:27:09 PM
you could have used a more recent article, 2001 is a bit old.
Well, it was the only one she could find that agreed with her.
Quote from: gbeenie on March 10, 2008, 12:18:56 PM
Quote from: Courtney on March 09, 2008, 10:03:51 PM
Quote from: AmandaGal on March 09, 2008, 09:13:45 PM
There was an article about drugs in the water linked to the reputable beacon of public information known as slashdot today (in other words, take with a grain of salt).
At first glance I could have sworn that said "reputable bacon of public information." Damn you, Bill Corbett.
No... BLESS you, Bill Corbett, for reminding us to take time and focus on what's really important...
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Darn it, gbeenie, salivating is not good for my keyboard!!
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on March 10, 2008, 12:41:55 PM
Quote from: Quicksilver on March 10, 2008, 12:27:09 PM
you could have used a more recent article, 2001 is a bit old.
Well, it was the only one she could find that agreed with her.
As opposed to the sources that
you cited? Oh, wait. I forgot who I was talking to.
See my point of not citing, is because it would escalate this debate to levels you cannot comprehend. What the hell is the point? I made a post that specifically said I would not cite crap articles and you cited a crap article, what can I tell ya.
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To be fair, Quicksilver, I was actually responding to Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck, who has apparently never met a half-assed rumor she couldn't internalize and attempt to present as fact.
Oh, and speaking of, here's this from the Journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics:
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/118/5/2245?hits=10&FIRSTINDEX=0&FULLTEXT=early+menstruation&SEARCHID=1&gca=pediatrics%3B118%2F5%2F2245& (http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/118/5/2245?hits=10&FIRSTINDEX=0&FULLTEXT=early+menstruation&SEARCHID=1&gca=pediatrics%3B118%2F5%2F2245&)
For anyone who doesn't have time to slog through the whole thing, here's the relevant portion (citations for all the statistics stated appear in the full article):
Menarche
From the early 1800s to the mid-1950s, menarche occured at increasingly younger ages in the United States, but there has been no further decline in the last 40 to 50 years. This finding also has been seen in international studies of other developed urban populations. The US National Health and Nutrition Examination Surveys have found no significant change in the median age at menarche over the past 30 years except among the non-Hispanic black population, which has a 5.5-month earlier age at menarche than it did 30 years ago. Age at menarche varies internationally and especially in less developed countries; in Haiti, for example, the mean age at menarche is 15.37 years. This knowledge may be especially pertinent for practitioners with a large number of immigrant families in their patient population. Although onset of puberty and menarche typically occur at a later age in females from less well-developed nations, 2 large studies have confirmed that a higher gain in body mass index (BMI) during childhood is related to an earlier onset of puberty. This earlier onset of puberty may result from attainment of a minimal requisite body mass at a younger age. Other possible explanations for the perceived trend in timing and progression of puberty are environmental factors, including socioeconomic conditions, nutrition, and access to preventive health care.
Despite variations worldwide and within the US population, median age at menarche has remained relatively stable, between 12 and 13 years, across well-nourished populations in developed countries. The median age of females when they have their first period or menarche is 12.43 years (see Table 1). Only 10% of females are menstruating at 11.11 years of age; 90% are menstruating by 13.75 years of age. The median age at which black female adolescents begin to menstruate is earlier (12.06 years of age) than the median age for Hispanic (12.25 years of age) and non-Hispanic white (12.55 years of age) females.3 Although black girls start to mature earlier than non-Hispanic white and Hispanic girls, US females complete secondary sexual development at approximately the same ages.
Can I ask, do you read pediatric journals regularly or did you do a google search to find this information?
Quote from: Quicksilver on March 10, 2008, 12:27:09 PM
you could have used a more recent article, 2001 is a bit old. I think the scary part is A. were debating this and B. that know one really knows what the hell is going on with kids and even more recently what going to happen with the drugs in the water......they just dont know. Did you happen to see/read the rather big story from today that's actually about this very topic?
Bacon bacon bacon
Steak Bacon!
I will say that the "rather big story" was in the media and not in a journal or a reputable scientific publication. The media tends to exaggerate even reputable scientific studies to the slant of "oh noes, we're all going to die." It's funny when you actually go and read some of the articles they cite. Inevitably, they got it wrong. Generally, they concentrate one aspect and forget the context. That "rather big story" reeks of that, even though it wasn't based on a journal.
I've also never seen a reputable study that links growth hormone in chickens to early puberty. Is it possible one exists? Sure. It's something regularly quoted by the emo kid at my local organic market to get me to buy overpriced fruits, I guess it has to be true. We give relatively large amounts of growth hormone to kids sometimes, it doesn't give them precocious puberty. If a small amount can do it, shouldn't a larger amount do it too? If it did cause it, would precocious puberty rates not be much higher?
That emo kid says bacon causes cancer too. Poor Bill and his bacon fetish.
Quote from: AmandaGal on March 10, 2008, 01:56:34 PM
Quote from: Quicksilver on March 10, 2008, 12:27:09 PM
you could have used a more recent article, 2001 is a bit old. I think the scary part is A. were debating this and B. that know one really knows what the hell is going on with kids and even more recently what going to happen with the drugs in the water......they just dont know. Did you happen to see/read the rather big story from today that's actually about this very topic?
Bacon bacon bacon
Steak Bacon!
I will say that the "rather big story" was in the media and not in a journal or a reputable scientific publication. The media tends to exaggerate even reputable scientific studies to the slant of "oh noes, we're all going to die." It's funny when you actually go and read some of the articles they cite. Inevitably, they got it wrong. Generally, they concentrate one aspect and forget the context. That "rather big story" reeks of that, even though it wasn't based on a journal.
I've also never seen a reputable study that links growth hormone in chickens to early puberty. Is it possible one exists? Sure. It's something regularly quoted by the emo kid at my local organic market to get me to buy overpriced fruits, I guess it has to be true. We give relatively large amounts of growth hormone to kids sometimes, it doesn't give them precocious puberty. If a small amount can do it, shouldn't a larger amount do it too? If it did cause it, would precocious puberty rates not be much higher?
That emo kid says bacon causes cancer too. Poor Bill and his bacon fetish.
It's possible that the last info I read on the subject is out of date as well....although it was newer than 2001.
Reminds me of a bit that Lewis Black does. He asks the audience if milk is good for you. When he gets a moment of silence he says, "See? We don't know anymore. It changes every day." And the same, he explains, goes about drinking water and how much. Add to that that most times you don't
always know who these Experts actually work for...what side of the issue their paycheck may depend on.
Meanwhile...some people see themselves....
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;)
Point taken about todays news, but I was just pointing it out, I thought it was funny, I was sitting here reading the replies and the sotry came on the news, I just thought it was an odd coicidence.
That article was pretty good and exactly what I meant. However seeing it wasnt about the actual topic and was merely using the explanation as a background, I tried out some of the references.
Like this one, that finds there was a correlation between obesity and and onset of puberty.
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/110/5/903?ijkey=77ce4a6491f029d5bedf1b8f3448758b43482883&keytype2=tf_ipsecsha
Self cleaning duck, this is a very important battle of the minds here, no joking around. :D
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on March 10, 2008, 02:23:18 PM
Reminds me of a bit that Lewis Black does. He asks the audience if milk is good for you. When he gets a moment of silence he says, "See? We don't know anymore. It changes every day." And the same, he explains, goes about drinking water and how much.
Not to nitpick but the Black segment is on eggs, not milk.
Depends on the show, I'm pretty sure in Black on Broadway he does it about Milk.
Quote from: bettertomorrowamy on March 10, 2008, 01:55:24 PM
Can I ask, do you read pediatric journals regularly or did you do a google search to find this information?
It was kind of roundabout. My Googling led me to the journal's web site, and so I searched it manually (you'll notice the actual study isn't
about early menstruation).
I SAY RESEARCH GIVES YOU CANCER DAMMNIT! :angry:
I think arguing on forums gives you autism.
Oh wait, no, it just makes you retarded. Autism has some merits ;)
Quote from: AmandaGal on March 10, 2008, 08:59:12 PM
Autism has some merits ;)
Can make one appear mysterious, a la the Mona Lisa....
Or give you a film career like Jim Carrey...
let's all support cancer
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way to go cancer
;D
since when did cancer start asking for support?
Cancer must have it's own lobbyists now. That must be what Tom Delay is doing now.
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If the NE is still standing firm on their story that he has five weeks to live, well, then congratulations, they're harassing a dying man with cameras and judgement. Let's say he is terminal: then who gives a shit if he smokes? Leave him in peace. These things make me sick.
My Mom had Metastatic Lung Cancer. She let it go until the doctors had to give her chemo during the biopsy. It was so advanced - crushing her windpipe.
She went through a new form of chemo through the teaching hospital at Jackson Memorial in Miami. That was brutal but it put it into complete remission. She started smoking again and was dead in two weeks.
If he's really terminal, there's no point ripping apart his system with chemo.
If he's going to take chemo, he's wasting his time if he's going to smoke.
(and no, gbeenie, I can't back that a website - just personal experience)
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on March 12, 2008, 10:51:23 AM
My Mom had Metastatic Lung Cancer. She let it go until the doctors had to give her chemo during the biopsy. It was so advanced - crushing her windpipe.
She went through a new form of chemo through the teaching hospital at Jackson Memorial in Miami. That was brutal but it put it into complete remission. She started smoking again and was dead in two weeks.
If he's really terminal, there's no point ripping apart his system with chemo.
If he's going to take chemo, he's wasting his time if he's going to smoke.
(and no, gbeenie, I can't back that a website - just personal experience)
To back up your claim the internet way just:
Type in google: Chemotherapy + Cigarettes + Kills + Just + to + Stop + gbeenie + from + arguing + every + point + I + Make
Then whatever site you get, post a link to it here: http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=chemotherapy+cigarettes+kills+just+to+stop+gbeenie+from+arguing+every+point+I+make&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 (http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=chemotherapy+cigarettes+kills+just+to+stop+gbeenie+from+arguing+every+point+I+make&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8)
:)
Quote from: bettertomorrowamy on March 12, 2008, 11:02:01 AM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on March 12, 2008, 10:51:23 AM
My Mom had Metastatic Lung Cancer. She let it go until the doctors had to give her chemo during the biopsy. It was so advanced - crushing her windpipe.
She went through a new form of chemo through the teaching hospital at Jackson Memorial in Miami. That was brutal but it put it into complete remission. She started smoking again and was dead in two weeks.
If he's really terminal, there's no point ripping apart his system with chemo.
If he's going to take chemo, he's wasting his time if he's going to smoke.
(and no, gbeenie, I can't back that a website - just personal experience)
To back up your claim the internet way just:
Type in google: Chemotherapy + Cigarettes + Kills + Just + to + Stop + gbeenie + from + arguing + every + point + I + Make
Then whatever site you get, post a link to it here: http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=chemotherapy+cigarettes+kills+just+to+stop+gbeenie+from+arguing+every+point+I+make&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 (http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=chemotherapy+cigarettes+kills+just+to+stop+gbeenie+from+arguing+every+point+I+make&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8)
:clap:
http://www.google.com/search?q=clapping+about+a+funny+thing+meant+towards+gbeenie&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
odd, how I kinda started the citing thing, but then it's still damn funny.
Is it me... or is he wearing giant red mittens in that picture?
Quote from: bratpop on March 12, 2008, 08:18:25 PM
Is it me... or is he wearing giant red mittens in that picture?
Those are actually his deflated man-bosoms leaking out from under his shirt. Apparently Patrick hasn't been keeping up with his workout regimen.
I just heard about this the other day, then I heard the 5 weeks to live and watched a clip on the news. I don't think that the press should have jumped ahead and told the public first on something like this, I can understand wanting to be the first on the next big thing like another Paris Hilton sex tape or Britney spears "no panties with dress" shot, but this is a mans life (possibly lack there of) they made public. They should have let him be the one to announce it to his fans.
Then I read the yahoo article on the blind guitars from road house (didn't know his name before that), dieing of cancer himself. It's like Road House is for some reason cursed all of a sudden, not often two actors from the same movie get sick from the same thing...weird but I hope he pulls through, he has to make more movies!
Latest News shows Swayze undeterred..
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,337650,00.html
Quote from: ghanes14 on March 13, 2008, 09:16:49 AM
I just heard about this the other day, then I heard the 5 weeks to live and watched a clip on the news. I don't think that the press should have jumped ahead and told the public first on something like this, I can understand wanting to be the first on the next big thing like another Paris Hilton sex tape or Britney spears "no panties with dress" shot, but this is a mans life (possibly lack there of) they made public. They should have let him be the one to announce it to his fans.
Since when has the media even cared about the human race or anyone in it?
Quote from: Fortis on March 13, 2008, 03:21:04 PM
Quote from: ghanes14 on March 13, 2008, 09:16:49 AM
I just heard about this the other day, then I heard the 5 weeks to live and watched a clip on the news. I don't think that the press should have jumped ahead and told the public first on something like this, I can understand wanting to be the first on the next big thing like another Paris Hilton sex tape or Britney spears "no panties with dress" shot, but this is a mans life (possibly lack there of) they made public. They should have let him be the one to announce it to his fans.
Since when has the media even cared about the human race or anyone in it?
Let's not go nutjob and overstate.
Quote from: bettertomorrowamy on March 13, 2008, 03:32:01 PM
Quote from: Fortis on March 13, 2008, 03:21:04 PM
Quote from: ghanes14 on March 13, 2008, 09:16:49 AM
I just heard about this the other day, then I heard the 5 weeks to live and watched a clip on the news. I don't think that the press should have jumped ahead and told the public first on something like this, I can understand wanting to be the first on the next big thing like another Paris Hilton sex tape or Britney spears "no panties with dress" shot, but this is a mans life (possibly lack there of) they made public. They should have let him be the one to announce it to his fans.
Since when has the media even cared about the human race or anyone in it?
Let's not go nutjob and overstate.
Sorry its my job...it clearly says in paragraph 19b of my contract that I am...
Quoteto over exaggerate in all things related to and about the media...yada yada yada.
Yes it really does say yada yada yada in my contract. arg hate is such an ugly word, but it fits. I hate the media.
Quote from: Fortis on March 13, 2008, 03:36:50 PM
Quote from: bettertomorrowamy on March 13, 2008, 03:32:01 PM
Quote from: Fortis on March 13, 2008, 03:21:04 PM
Quote from: ghanes14 on March 13, 2008, 09:16:49 AM
I just heard about this the other day, then I heard the 5 weeks to live and watched a clip on the news. I don't think that the press should have jumped ahead and told the public first on something like this, I can understand wanting to be the first on the next big thing like another Paris Hilton sex tape or Britney spears "no panties with dress" shot, but this is a mans life (possibly lack there of) they made public. They should have let him be the one to announce it to his fans.
Since when has the media even cared about the human race or anyone in it?
Let's not go nutjob and overstate.
Sorry its my job...it clearly says in paragraph 19b of my contract that I am...
Quoteto over exaggerate in all things related to and about the media...yada yada yada.
Yes it really does say yada yada yada in my contract. arg hate is such an ugly word, but it fits. I hate the media.
What you really hate is the collective of people who are interested in sensationalistic news stories over important news stories. So actually you hate dumb people. So really you hate 3/4 of the country. Don't hate the playa, hate the game.
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I am wondering why Joel is ordering Nichol Ritchie back to rehab. Shouldn't he be working on the next CT release?
Quote from: bettertomorrowamy on March 13, 2008, 03:39:57 PM
Quote from: Fortis on March 13, 2008, 03:36:50 PM
Quote from: bettertomorrowamy on March 13, 2008, 03:32:01 PM
Quote from: Fortis on March 13, 2008, 03:21:04 PM
Quote from: ghanes14 on March 13, 2008, 09:16:49 AM
I just heard about this the other day, then I heard the 5 weeks to live and watched a clip on the news. I don't think that the press should have jumped ahead and told the public first on something like this, I can understand wanting to be the first on the next big thing like another Paris Hilton sex tape or Britney spears "no panties with dress" shot, but this is a mans life (possibly lack there of) they made public. They should have let him be the one to announce it to his fans.
Since when has the media even cared about the human race or anyone in it?
Let's not go nutjob and overstate.
Sorry its my job...it clearly says in paragraph 19b of my contract that I am...
Quoteto over exaggerate in all things related to and about the media...yada yada yada.
Yes it really does say yada yada yada in my contract. arg hate is such an ugly word, but it fits. I hate the media.
What you really hate is the collective of people who are interested in sensationalistic news stories over important news stories. So actually you hate dumb people. So really you hate 3/4 of the country. Don't hate the playa, hate the game.
As always betterromorrowamy you come to save the day and clear things up. So yes, I'm sick of hearing about Britney Spears and that Paris chick. I'm sick of hearing about people's "secret" affairs, "supposed" divorces, and secret "love" childs. I don't want to hear about somebody's smoking/drinking/drug habits, it is their freaking life. I want to hear the stories that will actually have an impact on my country, or me personally.
So yes, thanks for clearing that up.
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Quote from: Courtney on March 12, 2008, 10:37:11 AM
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I am wondering why Joel is ordering Nichol Ritchie back to rehab. Shouldn't he be working on the next CT release?
Maybe That's why.. She's distracting him :P
Quote from: Fortis on March 13, 2008, 03:46:47 PM
Quote from: bettertomorrowamy on March 13, 2008, 03:39:57 PM
Quote from: Fortis on March 13, 2008, 03:36:50 PM
Quote from: bettertomorrowamy on March 13, 2008, 03:32:01 PM
Quote from: Fortis on March 13, 2008, 03:21:04 PM
Quote from: ghanes14 on March 13, 2008, 09:16:49 AM
I just heard about this the other day, then I heard the 5 weeks to live and watched a clip on the news. I don't think that the press should have jumped ahead and told the public first on something like this, I can understand wanting to be the first on the next big thing like another Paris Hilton sex tape or Britney spears "no panties with dress" shot, but this is a mans life (possibly lack there of) they made public. They should have let him be the one to announce it to his fans.
Since when has the media even cared about the human race or anyone in it?
Let's not go nutjob and overstate.
Sorry its my job...it clearly says in paragraph 19b of my contract that I am...
Quoteto over exaggerate in all things related to and about the media...yada yada yada.
Yes it really does say yada yada yada in my contract. arg hate is such an ugly word, but it fits. I hate the media.
What you really hate is the collective of people who are interested in sensationalistic news stories over important news stories. So actually you hate dumb people. So really you hate 3/4 of the country. Don't hate the playa, hate the game.
As always betterromorrowamy you come to save the day and clear things up. So yes, I'm sick of hearing about Britney Spears and that Paris chick. I'm sick of hearing about people's "secret" affairs, "supposed" divorces, and secret "love" childs. I don't want to hear about somebody's smoking/drinking/drug habits, it is their freaking life. I want to hear the stories that will actually have an impact on my country, or me personally.
So yes, thanks for clearing that up.
Well I don't watch tv or listen to any radio but NPR, so I don't hear about this stuff except for what I read off the cover of magazines. You can read the newspaper and get great stuff.
"Be Nice: Everything I Know, I Learned from Patrick Swayze
With the sad news that Patrick Swayze has pancreatic cancer, Courtney Enlow pays tribute to the iconic actor in this special column, subtitled "Everything I need to know about life, I learned from Patrick Swayze." Enlow offers 10 memorable Swayze lessons and teaches us about life."
My Swayze column is up soooo ya knowww... if yer into that kinda thinnnggg.... ya knoww...... :-[ I'm not good at self-promotion.
Click the sig, or just click here: http://www.hobotrashcan.com/outsideoftheincrowd (http://www.hobotrashcan.com/outsideoftheincrowd)
Theeeenks. ;D
Killer Tribute!! :clap: :clap:
Lotta 'Road House' qualities to it. I Like That ;)
Quoteinterested in sensationalistic news stories over important news stories.
The only important news story is, "Hey, You Only Have Five Weeks To Live," or maybe, "Hey, A Plane Is About To Crash Into Your Building." Strangely, I don't remember either one of those running. Perhaps they were buried by the Things To Bitch About column in the Other People's Business section. Fucked up shit happening to a celebrity is no different than fucked up shit happening in third world countries, unless you plan to strap on a backpack and go help one or the other. It's all voyeurism and negativity. Mostly it's there to distract you and make you feel better about your own crap life. But most news is worthless except for the occasional, "The British Are Coming!" Of course, nine times out of ten it turns out to be an actual invasion, and not something really horrible like a pop band.
Quote from: Courtney on March 13, 2008, 05:10:53 PM
"Be Nice: Everything I Know, I Learned from Patrick Swayze
With the sad news that Patrick Swayze has pancreatic cancer, Courtney Enlow pays tribute to the iconic actor in this special column, subtitled "Everything I need to know about life, I learned from Patrick Swayze." Enlow offers 10 memorable Swayze lessons and teaches us about life."
My Swayze column is up soooo ya knowww... if yer into that kinda thinnnggg.... ya knoww...... :-[ I'm not good at self-promotion.
Click the sig, or just click here: http://www.hobotrashcan.com/outsideoftheincrowd (http://www.hobotrashcan.com/outsideoftheincrowd)
Theeeenks. ;D
Brought a little tear to my eye. But, then again, I'm a big puss when it comes to this stuff.
Great piece, Courtney. Words to live by.
Especially these words:
"F*ck cancer. F*ck it hard."
Damn straight.
Yes, very nice tribute! Swayze would approve!
That was a very good read! Congrats Courtney!
Great column, Courtney.
...
Indiana Family Gives Swayze HopeQuoteMovie star Patrick Swayze has been given a huge boost in his pancreatic cancer battle - an Indiana family has launched a campaign to force U.S. medical bosses to make a revolutionary new treatment available to sufferers. The Loughmans of Indianapolis launched their new initiative on Monday in a desperate bid to find a cure for the family matriarch, who ironically is a big fan of the ailing Ghost star. Connie Loughman was diagnosed with deadly pancreatic cancer last summer, just months before Swayze was diagnosed. As part of their public campaign, the Loughman family has launched the website CureConnieAndPatrick.com and they've also produced a new video promoting their efforts. A spokesman for the Loughmans says, "Well-meaning, but misguided, regulations have tied the hands of the Food & Drug Administration and the biotechnology firm, Genvec, from providing access to the only drug shown to cure the disease. Meanwhile, 90 percent of patients die within one year of being diagnosed with pancreatic cancer and 95 percent are dead within five years of diagnosis. The Loughman family hopes that public pressure will convince the Fda and biotechnology firm, Genvec, to cut through the red tape and grant access of the gene therapy Tnferade to Mrs. Loughman... and others battling pancreatic cancer, including actor Patrick Swayze."
-Rude
FDA gets a bad rap, they're just trying to create standards. As a smoker I realize the risks of my habbit and I'm sure Patrick Swayze knew the risks. Can't go blaming everything on FDA, its thinking like that that makes books like http://www.infomercialsitv.com/naturalcures.htm best sellers
...
It seems a little opportunistic for them to use Patrick Swayze's name to push their agenda. As far as i know, he has nothing to do with their website. And i haven't really looked over the information regarding TNFerade, but i'm not sure Swayze himself supports pushing it through the FDA for approval. I just posted the story here for it's relevance since it seems like branding the effort with Swayze's name has been pretty effective... as far as media coverage is concerned.
-Rude
Reminds me of that scene from "Man on the Moon" where he goes to that holistic healer and gets that fake chunk of meat pulled out of him.
Pancreatic cancer would make me a believer though.
Er, so how does this Indiana family know about some top secret, hushed-up treatment that the FDA won't pass?
That drug (it's actually a DNA vector type thing) is in clinical trials. If you qualify, you can possibly have access to the drug. Their site says they are looking for people to join the study.
Maybe the Swaze can join.
http://www.centerwatch.com/trials/trial2472.html
People who complain about the FDA "red tape" are usually the first to complain when a drug is found out to have side effects years later. "They should have told us." You can't have it both ways.
I guess in pancreatic cancer, it doesn't matter much. The FDA actually has a "fast track" for terminal illnesses and rare diseases though. I assume this drug is in such a track. It looks like their original study didn't have many participants anyway.
I doubt he would join the study. Mostly because it takes a certain type of person to do something like that. If you've got one of the quickest and most irreversible type of cancer, you probably just want to make the most of your life. I've seen 2 people go from pancreatic cancer and it was really fast, and really painful for everyone around. I wouldnt think he'd want to be in an experiment.
That and I wish they said more on that site, it's not the most promising, but definitely very experimental.
Well there is this:
QuoteActor Patrick Swayze - who revealed he is suffering from pancreatic cancer earlier this month - is taking an experimental drug in a bid to beat cancer.
The Dirty Dancing star is taking Vatalanib, a new treatment being developed in the ongoing fight with the potentially fatal disease.
Dr M Wasif Saif, the Associate Professor of Medicine and Director of Yale University's Gastrointestinal Program, said Patrick should respond well to the drug because of his high fitness levels.
Dr Saif told America's OK! magazine: "The drug that Patrick Swayze is taking, Vatalanib, is still in the experimental stage. But recent studies have shown promise for patients taking the drug who are in excellent physical shape."
Patrick is a keen dancer and horse rider, and his friend John Fusano insists the 55-year-old is in great physical shape.
Fusano, who owns the East Valley Feed and Tack company, said: "Patrick orders supplies for his horses from us. I haven't seen him in a while, but he's a strapping giant of a man. He's got tree trunks for legs!"
Vatalanib blocks the growth and spread of cancer by affecting molecules specifically involved in carcinogenesis - the process which turns normal cells into cancerous cells.
Experimental drugs are generally only used on patients suffering from a terminal illness.
Patrick's representative Dr George Fisher has denied reports the Ghost actor has only weeks to live, insisting: "All of the reports stating the timeframe of his prognosis and his physical side effects are absolutely untrue.
"We are considerably more optimistic."
well that kind of fills in the missing piece, now I take back everything. :P
Watched Keeping Mum again last night....
That sexy devil is 55?!?!? (https://forum.rifftrax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi16.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb4%2Frobotrix%2FSmileys%2Fthwas.gif&hash=25161fc62e9175c63889948eff40c1d8cf28bfe3)
In an exclusive statement to PEOPLE readers, Swayze says:
"Thought I'd give you guys a little update. Lisa and I have been back and forth from New Mexico enjoying the arrival of spring and new baby calves. This past weekend, we spent a fun time with friends in Reno for Lisa's birthday, where I took her jewelry shopping at Kenny G & Company and (we) were able to find her something really special and much deserved! In the meantime, I am continuing treatment at Stanford and the great news is I continue to respond well."
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20202714,00.html (http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20202714,00.html)
Well thats good. It's funny to go back in the thread and find the 8 week old news stories that say he has 5 weeks to live.
Patrick must have been getting tips from Dick Cheney.
Huzzah!
Looks like his new TV series has been picked up (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/08/AR2008060800776.html). (Scroll down to the fourth item on the page.) Good luck to him!
Quote from: SecretAgentSuperDragon on May 28, 2008, 07:29:39 PM
Well thats good. It's funny to go back in the thread and find the 8 week old news stories that say he has 5 weeks to live.
Most of that came from tabloids...they love a good celebrity death story, and believe it or not, sometimes they will engage in journalism that is less than fully scrupulous.
I'll give you a second to recover from the shock of that revelation.
Interesting that comes from March...that was about the same time Randy Pausch was representing the Pancreatic Cancer Action Network before Congress. For those of you who don't know, Randy Pausch was a CMU professor who died of pancreatic cancer just a little over a week ago...and if you haven't seen his Last Lecture (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3115188410730134929) video, you really should.
Yeah, best of all possible luck to Swayze...pancreatic is one of the deadliest cancers there is. I'm glad the guy is working and seems to be holding up OK, but odds are he'll be gone within a year.
Mike
Here's the latest:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10545456
It's sourced from the Enquirer, so grain of salt.
Cancer sucks.
Quote from: AmandaGal on November 28, 2008, 08:32:35 PM
Here's the latest:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10545456
It's sourced from the Enquirer, so grain of salt.
The Enquirer broke the story the first time around. They're actually right a lot. I just hope they aren't this time.
Just found this..
From FoxNews
QuoteActor Patrick Swayze is firing back at the media outlets that have been reporting his cancer has spread by arguing that he is still fighting the "good fight."
The "Ghost" star, 56, who was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer earlier this year, fired back at claims he has been saying goodbye to members of his family.
In a statement to FOX News, Swayze said that he "very proud" of the work he has done on his new series "The Beast," and that he is winning the battle against cancer so far.
"I am happy to be back home for the holidays," Swayze said. "It's a great feeling of accomplishment to say you're gonna do something and do it.
"The only thorn in my side being that many tabloids have been consistently reporting lies and false information about me and those close to me," he continued. "And latest, they're reporting that I'm on my last legs and saying goodbye my tearful family!
"Pancreatic cancer is an aggressive disease and from the moment I was diagnosed, I knew I was in for the fight of my life. It's a battle, and so far, I've been winning. I'm one of the lucky few that responds well to treatment."
Patrick Swayze: 'Chemo is Hell on Wheels' Patrick Swayze Diagnosed With Pancreatic Cancer Swayze called the tabloid rumors "downright emotional cruelty."
"It's upsetting that the shoddy and reckless reporting from these publications cast a negative shadow on the positive and good fight I'm fighting," he said, adding "that makes me angry when hope is so precious."
News of the actor's illness surfaced in March, when initial tabloid reports said that he had only five weeks left to live.
But Swayze and his physicians have maintained that he is responding well to treatment. According to a statement from his physician George Fisher, "Patrick has a very limited amount of disease and he appears to be responding well to treatment thus far. All of the reports stating the timeframe of his prognosis and his physical side effects are absolutely untrue."
Swayze did say however that his chemotherapy treatments are like "hell on wheels," but pledged that he would remain positive in spite of the fact that statistics say he was "a dead man."
In a way this could be good for him emotionally, if he looks at it the right way.
Survive just to prove all of these tabloids wrong!!! ;) "Success is the best revenge."
Swayze cured of cancer!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0)
Quote from: bettertomorrowamy on December 02, 2008, 01:27:48 PM
Swayze cured of cancer!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0)
UGH :gouge:
That's like the YouTube version of The Enquirer :speechless:
Quote from: Imrahil on December 02, 2008, 01:01:00 PM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on December 02, 2008, 12:55:48 PM
In a way this could be good for him emotionally, if he looks at it the right way.
Survive just to prove all of these tabloids wrong!!! ;) "Success is the best revenge."
I always think the best revenge is feeding your enemies their own lungs. But that's me.
Really? I thought it was ripping their heart out of their chest and showing it to them.
Or maybe bludgeoning them to death with your own nutsack.
I thought it was a Russian/Greek/Italian/Kilingon Dish
Well whatever the origin, it's a bit like gazpacho soup when it comes to serving it apparently.
Quote from: BBQ Platypus on December 02, 2008, 01:41:39 PM
Or maybe bludgeoning them to death with your own nutsack.
Who would that hurt
more though? ???
What is this now? "Hell's Kitchen"?
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on December 02, 2008, 12:55:48 PM
Survive just to prove all of these tabloids wrong!!! ;) "Success is the best revenge."
Hear, hear! Good for him!
Cancer can't put Baby in a corner...
Quote from: BBQ Platypus on December 02, 2008, 01:41:39 PM
Quote from: Imrahil on December 02, 2008, 01:01:00 PM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on December 02, 2008, 12:55:48 PM
In a way this could be good for him emotionally, if he looks at it the right way.
Survive just to prove all of these tabloids wrong!!! ;) "Success is the best revenge."
I always think the best revenge is feeding your enemies their own lungs. But that's me.
Really? I thought it was ripping their heart out of their chest and showing it to them.
Or maybe bludgeoning them to death with your own nutsack.
SOMEbody grew up with too much Mortal Kombat...
Quote from: Rattrap007 on December 02, 2008, 06:15:36 PM
Cancer can't put Baby in a corner...
Nope, but Rhinoplasty did.
Quote from: gbeenie on December 07, 2008, 06:43:36 PM
Quote from: BBQ Platypus on December 02, 2008, 01:41:39 PM
Quote from: Imrahil on December 02, 2008, 01:01:00 PM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on December 02, 2008, 12:55:48 PM
In a way this could be good for him emotionally, if he looks at it the right way.
Survive just to prove all of these tabloids wrong!!! ;) "Success is the best revenge."
I always think the best revenge is feeding your enemies their own lungs. But that's me.
Really? I thought it was ripping their heart out of their chest and showing it to them.
Or maybe bludgeoning them to death with your own nutsack.
SOMEbody grew up with too much Mortal Kombat...
I actually didn't play it that often. Mostly at friends' houses. I mean, my first console was a PlayStation.
A Barbara Walters special devoted entirely to Swayze-including his first television interview since being diagnosed with cancer-is airing January 7 on ABC. (http://abc.go.com/specials/barbarawalterspecial/index)
QuoteSwayze 'may live only two years'
Swayze's interview with Barbara Walters will be shown on ABC
Actor Patrick Swayze, who has pancreatic cancer, has admitted he may survive only two years.
Speaking in his first US TV interview since he was diagnosed with the disease, the Dirty Dancing star said he was "scared" and "going through hell".
The 56-year-old refused painkillers while working on new TV drama The Beast, and missed only a day-and-a-half of the show's tough filming schedule.
He also denied being on his deathbed and "saying goodbye to people". 'Wishful thinking' "Am I dying? Am I giving up? Am I on my death bed? Am I saying goodbye to people? No way," Swayze told TV interviewer Barbara Walters.
But the star, whose other screen credits include romantic movie Ghost, admitted that he still asks himself: "Why me?"
Swayze plays veteran FBI agent Charles Barker in The Beast. Swayze added that he wanted to survive long enough for a cure to be found, but said that beating the disease for five years was "pretty wishful thinking".
"I keep dreaming of a future, a future with a long and healthy life, not lived in the shadow of cancer but in the light," he said. The actor added that people thought he was "out of his mind" to shoot the new detective series while undergoing a rigorous and experimental treatment - and without pain relief.
The Beast is due to debut on US cable channel A&E next week.
"When you're shooting you can't do drugs... 'cos it takes the edge off your brain," said Swayze.
He was diagnosed with the disease early last year, and in December issued a statement denying US tabloid reports that he was close to death. He said that he was winning his fight against cancer and called the stories "lies and false information". Pancreatic cancer is one of the most virulent forms of cancer which medical experts say has a 5% five-year survival rate.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7815115.stm
His only press releases from now on should be "Pain Don't Hurt!"
QuotePatrick Swayze Hospitalized
Posted Jan 9th 2009 3:30PM by TMZ Staff
Patrick Swayze has checked himself into the hospital after he came down with pneumonia.
Abbe Raven, the president of A&E network, told a panel of reporters the news at an industry event. Swayze was supposed to be part of a presentation for his show on the network, "The Beast."
Raven said, "He asked us specifically to go forward with today's panel. We wish him the very best with his recovery."
Swayze revealed last year that he is battling pancreatic cancer.
Well, the Swayze finally died at age 57. R.I.P., Wolverine/Ghost/Dirty Dancer/Bouncer.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obit_swayze
Quote from: kodiakthejuggler on September 14, 2009, 05:18:53 PM
Well, the Swayze finally died at age 57. R.I.P., Wolverine/Ghost/Dirty Dancer/Bouncer.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obit_swayze
R.I.P.
RIP Dalton.
Wow That is sad :'( If it weren't for Roadhouse we mite not even have Rifftrax. I think I will watch Roadhouse and Red Dawn tonight. Those are two movies that are so silly that they become awesome. Truely he was up there as one of the kings of cheese and I will be praying for his family. So sad.
RIP.
Damn That Sux.. :'(
Well, he didn't go without a fight. RIP, Patrick. You'll be missed. :'(
We joke a lot, but Swayze really was the man. Of all the recent celebrity deaths, I think this one makes me the most sad. We'll miss you!
That's the thing about pancreatic cancer... it's got a crazy high mortality rate. I have heard of very few people getting it and actually surviving (I think the only way really is a pancreas transplant at the very, very earliest stage).
Total bummer.
Yeah I've not heard of anyone really beating the odds on it.
When people say "Pancreatic Cancer" they generally mean exocrine pancreatic cancer, Jobs had endocrine pancreatic cancer. Different prognosis.
He was truly the Swayziest, as was his Christmas.