http://www.beyondhollywood.com/summit-officially-announces-twilight-2-new-moon/
this is the bad movie early warning system
Did anyone doubt it?
Are you kidding? This sounds awesome:
You know, this doesn't bode well because the books got progressively worse (Stephanie Meyer is a seriously flawed writer). I can only hope that they make all the movies quickly so it can end.
keep in mind the this means more rifftrax's of the Twilight movies for years to come
As directed by the guy who did The Golden Compass... guess he's sticking to the religious fantasy niche of films.
I think Juan Antonio Bayona is in talks for the third movie. He did good work with The Orphanage, so hopefully he'll be able to make something watchable out of this series.
Considering how badly he messed up Golden Compass, this movie is certain to be laughably bad.
Quote from: Relaxing Dragon on April 09, 2009, 02:47:51 PM
As directed by the guy who did The Golden Compass... guess he's sticking to the religious fantasy niche of films.
I think Juan Antonio Bayona is in talks for the third movie. He did good work with The Orphanage, so hopefully he'll be able to make something watchable out of this series.
Dude, do you have any idea what the third BOOK was like?
The fanbase split in two over that book! x_x
Quote from: Fuzzy Necromancer on April 11, 2009, 08:12:18 PM
Quote from: Relaxing Dragon on April 09, 2009, 02:47:51 PM
As directed by the guy who did The Golden Compass... guess he's sticking to the religious fantasy niche of films.
I think Juan Antonio Bayona is in talks for the third movie. He did good work with The Orphanage, so hopefully he'll be able to make something watchable out of this series.
Dude, do you have any idea what the third BOOK was like?
The fanbase split in two over that book! x_x
I thought they split over the fourth book...
Dammit, Twilight fans need to start playing to my expectations.
I thought the fourth book wasn't out yet. ???
No, it's definitely out, it's the one with the chess piece motif. Sat in front of Borders for I don't know how long.
Oooh, right you are. ^^;
I dunno how I got this mixed up. =o
Well, the fourth one is never going to become a movie, what with the impromptu vampire C-section
...
My friend has been out of town for the last week or so working on this. I fully expect him to come back sparkling.
-Rude
I think there are some movies too horrible to riff. And though they're pandering to us with "Twilight," if the movies just get worse, I can see them not wanting to waste their time with three more of these nothing-happens teenvamp dramas. I mean it's not like they're big budget fantasy blockbusters. Sold as such, but not so. And it would be like them riffing every Bond movie for the next 20 years. I could see them doing a few, but you'd have to figure they'd stop at some point. "Fool me twice" applies even if you watch something to riff it.
The first poster (http://www.impawards.com/2009/twilight_saga_new_moon.html) for the movie is out, complete with the new look, 50% less ethnic Jacob Black.
Wow, that's almost as half-assed as the poster for the first one. I for one am excited to see how bad this series will get. Especially since the lead actor appears to be actively trying to get fired. I'm looking forward to his performance. Hoping for a lot of looking directly at the camera and rolling his eyes whenever an awful line of dialog is uttered.
I figure if I can survive being forced to watch the Harry Potter movies in the name of Rifftrax, I can endure this series as well.
Though having to watch Twilight a few weeks ago ruined Hot Topic for me for a while. And I've got gift cards for there, too. :-[
The Edward Cardboard Cutout in Suncoast still gives me a fright. >.> Whenever I come back from the anime section in the rear, I mistake it for a person for the first few seconds.
Brace yourself everyone. The first trailer for New Moon has been leaked, and it looks God-awful.
Wow, I'm genuinely shocked. Here I thought it was going to be a cinematic marvel to rival the likes of Date Movie and Armageddon ::)
So, we should have a new Rifftrax for this movie in about 10 months...... great!
I sort of hope they re-release the first one in theaters for a little bit right before the second one. Then I can watch it with the riff on my iPod in the theater (I forget whose idea that was, but it was a good one).
Quote from: Toby Danger on June 01, 2009, 04:01:31 PM
Brace yourself everyone. The first trailer for New Moon has been leaked, and it looks God-awful.
Wow, the werewolf thing works in sunlight too. I'm a little said he didn't sparkle.
Quote from: Toby Danger on June 01, 2009, 04:01:31 PM
Brace yourself everyone. The first trailer for New Moon has been leaked, and it looks God-awful.
Ouch. Looks terrible. But what's even more depressing are all the comments left for the preview. I weep for humanity.
Well, on the positive side, we have three more RiffTrax to look forward to!
Quote from: Tyrant on June 01, 2009, 05:17:55 PM
Quote from: Toby Danger on June 01, 2009, 04:01:31 PM
Brace yourself everyone. The first trailer for New Moon has been leaked, and it looks God-awful.
Ouch. Looks terrible. But what's even more depressing are all the comments left for the preview. I weep for humanity.
Idiot. Why did you tempt me to go read the comments. I did and now I hate you.
* Adds Tyrant to enemies list *
Quote from: Relaxing Dragon on June 01, 2009, 04:12:26 PM
I sort of hope they re-release the first one in theaters for a little bit right before the second one. Then I can watch it with the riff on my iPod in the theater (I forget whose idea that was, but it was a good one).
Damn, that's a great idea! Would love to see all the dirty looks you'd receive for laughing your ass off throughout the movie.
The idea was mine, except it's only good in theory. For whatever reason either the Rifftrax or the movie will drift and go out of sync by a good second or more.
Quote from: Bob on June 01, 2009, 06:21:34 PM
Quote from: Tyrant on June 01, 2009, 05:17:55 PM
Quote from: Toby Danger on June 01, 2009, 04:01:31 PM
Brace yourself everyone. The first trailer for New Moon has been leaked, and it looks God-awful.
Ouch. Looks terrible. But what's even more depressing are all the comments left for the preview. I weep for humanity.
Idiot. Why did you tempt me to go read the comments. I did and now I hate you.
* Adds Tyrant to enemies list *
Aw, no one loves Tyrant. Thanks to Twilight. Thanks a lot,
Twilight. Now I'm a goth. :angry:
Quote from: ManUnderMask on June 01, 2009, 10:45:10 PM
The idea was mine, except it's only good in theory. For whatever reason either the Rifftrax or the movie will drift and go out of sync by a good second or more.
I think it could work, though you'd probably need to have a good memory for both the film and the riff.
OMG Indians are werewilfs? I didn't see that coming!
Quote from: BathTub on June 03, 2009, 06:28:03 PM
OMG Indians are werewilfs? I didn't see that coming!
Yeah, to figure that out you'd actually have to pay attention to the dialog in the first movie.
That's not some kind of dig at you, I'm pointing out how hard it actually is to pay attention to that dialog.
lol my point was they made it so obvious in the first one :P
And my point was to use your post to insult the dialog. In the end, everyone's happy. ;D
You know I was sure I had made a post about the Indian kid sleeping nose to anus but now I can't find it.
Quote from: Toby Danger on June 01, 2009, 04:01:31 PM
Brace yourself everyone. The first trailer for New Moon has been leaked, and it looks God-awful.
Cheesetastic! I love it!!
Ed & Bella better be defending their Golden Onion in this, and I'm anticipating some more chicanery from our armadillo friend. Oh and Alice, she has my permission to sire me. She's cute.
Quote from: TeamRAD on June 04, 2009, 05:44:28 AM
Quote from: Toby Danger on June 01, 2009, 04:01:31 PM
Brace yourself everyone. The first trailer for New Moon has been leaked, and it looks God-awful.
Cheesetastic! I love it!!
Ed & Bella better be defending their Golden Onion in this, and I'm anticipating some more chicanery from our armadillo friend. Oh and Alice, she has my permission to sire me. She's cute.
Okay, at least the Rasta vamp looks "drained" this time around. But the werewolves actually turn into wolves? Huh?
And I second the Alice comment.
Quote from: BathTub on June 03, 2009, 06:28:03 PM
OMG Indians are werewilfs? I didn't see that coming!
Everyone here in NM knows that Native Americans are
always werewolves. Or were-coyotes. There are no exceptions. They'll always deny it, of course. But we know better.
Quote from: Tyrant on June 04, 2009, 08:06:33 AM
Quote from: BathTub on June 03, 2009, 06:28:03 PM
OMG Indians are werewilfs? I didn't see that coming!
Everyone here in NM knows that Native Americans are always werewolves. Or were-coyotes. There are no exceptions. They'll always deny it, of course. But we know better.
now if I remember the story correctly, the Native Americans were turned into Werewolves by God because they had killed a group of Vampires or something
Spoiler
Dum dum dum dum dum
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Quote from: Tyrant on June 04, 2009, 08:06:33 AM
Quote from: BathTub on June 03, 2009, 06:28:03 PM
OMG Indians are werewilfs? I didn't see that coming!
Everyone here in NM knows that Native Americans are always werewolves. Or were-coyotes. There are no exceptions. They'll always deny it, of course. But we know better.
Shit that means i'm dating a godless killing machine... that likes Alpo...
One another note.... What I find REALLY funny is that even in that 2minute trailer there are at LEAST 3 inconsistencies with the books.
I can't wait for this movie to come out just so someone can riff it a new one...though honestly... i can't wait for the 4th movie to come out so we can all get this out of our system and move on to more interesting things... like... watching paint dry... or grass grow... or... any number of other things that don't involve annoying emo teen vamps.... Bleh.
I want all the books to become films. Think of the riffing gold.
I've never read the books, never will, but the movies are just horrible and horrible = Riffing Gold.
But Dr. Horrible would not be riffing gold, go figure.
Quote from: Bob on June 05, 2009, 02:48:10 AM
I want all the books to become films. Think of the riffing gold.
I've never read the books, never will, but the movies are just horrible and horrible = Riffing Gold.
But Dr. Horrible would not be riffing gold, go figure.
I agree. Although how they'd make the 4th one PG-13, I don't know.
Dr. Horrible kinda riffed itself, so it's covered.
Quote from: esoobaC .T bocaJ on June 04, 2009, 01:55:25 PM
Quote from: Tyrant on June 04, 2009, 08:06:33 AM
Quote from: BathTub on June 03, 2009, 06:28:03 PM
OMG Indians are werewilfs? I didn't see that coming!
Everyone here in NM knows that Native Americans are always werewolves. Or were-coyotes. There are no exceptions. They'll always deny it, of course. But we know better.
now if I remember the story correctly, the Native Americans were turned into Werewolves by God because they had killed a group of Vampires or something
That's interesting. I wouldn't think God would mind vampires getting killed all that much, what with them being the souless undead and what not. Unless lycanthropy is thought to be some kind of reward?
Quote from: MSTJedi on June 04, 2009, 07:04:08 AM
Quote from: TeamRAD on June 04, 2009, 05:44:28 AM
Quote from: Toby Danger on June 01, 2009, 04:01:31 PM
Brace yourself everyone. The first trailer for New Moon has been leaked, and it looks God-awful.
Cheesetastic! I love it!!
Ed & Bella better be defending their Golden Onion in this, and I'm anticipating some more chicanery from our armadillo friend. Oh and Alice, she has my permission to sire me. She's cute.
And I second the Alice comment.
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*melts*
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Good lord.
Quote from: Tyrant on June 05, 2009, 10:22:53 AM
Quote from: esoobaC .T bocaJ on June 04, 2009, 01:55:25 PM
Quote from: Tyrant on June 04, 2009, 08:06:33 AM
Quote from: BathTub on June 03, 2009, 06:28:03 PM
OMG Indians are werewilfs? I didn't see that coming!
Everyone here in NM knows that Native Americans are always werewolves. Or were-coyotes. There are no exceptions. They'll always deny it, of course. But we know better.
now if I remember the story correctly, the Native Americans were turned into Werewolves by God because they had killed a group of Vampires or something
That's interesting. I wouldn't think God would mind vampires getting killed all that much, what with them being the souless undead and what not. Unless lycanthropy is thought to be some kind of reward?
not one for spoilers are you :D
http://stoney321.livejournal.com/317176.html
Quote from: TeamRAD on June 04, 2009, 05:44:28 AM
Quote from: Toby Danger on June 01, 2009, 04:01:31 PM
Brace yourself everyone. The first trailer for New Moon has been leaked, and it looks God-awful.
Cheesetastic! I love it!!
Ed & Bella better be defending their Golden Onion in this, and I'm anticipating some more chicanery from our armadillo friend. Oh and Alice, she has my permission to sire me. She's cute.
Is she allowed to
dress you in a tight cocktail dress and spike heels afterward? Because that's her idea of appropriate post-siring first-time-hunting attire. Seriously. It's one of the parts of Breaking Dawn that still makes me :D every time I remember it.
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Good lord.
...hahahaha.
Her perkiness would make for a wonderful addition to the Buffyverse.
Quote from: PlayMSTie on June 06, 2009, 10:17:44 AM
Quote from: TeamRAD on June 04, 2009, 05:44:28 AM
Quote from: Toby Danger on June 01, 2009, 04:01:31 PM
Brace yourself everyone. The first trailer for New Moon has been leaked, and it looks God-awful.
Cheesetastic! I love it!!
Ed & Bella better be defending their Golden Onion in this, and I'm anticipating some more chicanery from our armadillo friend. Oh and Alice, she has my permission to sire me. She's cute.
Is she allowed to dress you in a tight cocktail dress and spike heels afterward? Because that's her idea of appropriate post-siring first-time-hunting attire. Seriously. It's one of the parts of Breaking Dawn that still makes me :D every time I remember it.
What the?!?! :D :D :D
Quote from: JimJ on June 01, 2009, 10:04:36 PM
Quote from: Relaxing Dragon on June 01, 2009, 04:12:26 PM
I sort of hope they re-release the first one in theaters for a little bit right before the second one. Then I can watch it with the riff on my iPod in the theater (I forget whose idea that was, but it was a good one).
Damn, that's a great idea! Would love to see all the dirty looks you'd receive for laughing your ass off throughout the movie.
Warning to everyone:
Don't ever do this at a good movie -- I will punch you in the back of the head, I swear! Twilight 2 is ok, though :)
Also -- stop texting on your gd cell-phone during the movie -- I will punch you in the back of the head! Sorry for that.
Quote from: TeamRAD on June 06, 2009, 03:39:59 PM
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Good lord.
...hahahaha.
Her perkiness would make for a wonderful addition to the Buffyverse.
Despite having all the riffs that were produced for it I've still not got round to watching the thing yet. She's certainly added incentive)
Even the trailer is riffable...
This is the only twilight book I've actually read (well, listened to in audiobook form).
The thing I'm wondering about is whether or not Bella will maintain her level of high-grade denseness.
I mean, there are lots of attacks by "animals" in the woods, her friend Jacob gets a "fever" and then joins a "cult" that involves members who growl at people, and she actually sees a vampire get chased off by bear-sized wolves, and Jacob comes by and reminds her to think back to a certain legend he told her about that explains this, and she STILL needs an eerie dream sequence to piece it all together! ADD IT UP BELLA, YOU DENSE, DENSE GIRL!
Quote from: Fuzzy Necromancer on June 09, 2009, 06:39:51 PM
This is the only twilight book I've actually read (well, listened to in audiobook form).
The thing I'm wondering about is whether or not Bella will maintain her level of high-grade denseness.
I mean, there are lots of attacks by "animals" in the woods, her friend Jacob gets a "fever" and then joins a "cult" that involves members who growl at people, and she actually sees a vampire get chased off by bear-sized wolves, and Jacob comes by and reminds her to think back to a certain legend he told her about that explains this, and she STILL needs an eerie dream sequence to piece it all together! ADD IT UP BELLA, YOU DENSE, DENSE GIRL!
You're telling me the winner of the almighty golden apple took that long to piece together such obviousness? That sounds more like denseness on the part of the author, wanting to drag out the "suspense" way longer than she should have.
I'm still maintaining my stance that Twilight is some kind of a brilliantly subtle social satire. I mean, really, there is no way that anyone could write such retarded sounding characters and be completely serious.
Right.....RIGHT?
GOD DAMNIT.
There are three more of these coming out, and THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO TO STOP IT.
But by golly, WE CAN RIFF IT! :highfive:
(Or Mike & Co. and the other riffers around here can, anyway!)
Quote from: MSTJedi on June 10, 2009, 05:34:42 AM
Quote from: Fuzzy Necromancer on June 09, 2009, 06:39:51 PM
This is the only twilight book I've actually read (well, listened to in audiobook form).
The thing I'm wondering about is whether or not Bella will maintain her level of high-grade denseness.
I mean, there are lots of attacks by "animals" in the woods, her friend Jacob gets a "fever" and then joins a "cult" that involves members who growl at people, and she actually sees a vampire get chased off by bear-sized wolves, and Jacob comes by and reminds her to think back to a certain legend he told her about that explains this, and she STILL needs an eerie dream sequence to piece it all together! ADD IT UP BELLA, YOU DENSE, DENSE GIRL!
You're telling me the winner of the almighty golden apple took that long to piece together such obviousness? That sounds more like denseness on the part of the author, wanting to drag out the "suspense" way longer than she should have.
ONION!!!! the golden ONION!! shame on you
Quote from: esoobaC .T bocaJ on June 10, 2009, 04:59:26 PM
Quote from: MSTJedi on June 10, 2009, 05:34:42 AM
Quote from: Fuzzy Necromancer on June 09, 2009, 06:39:51 PM
This is the only twilight book I've actually read (well, listened to in audiobook form).
The thing I'm wondering about is whether or not Bella will maintain her level of high-grade denseness.
I mean, there are lots of attacks by "animals" in the woods, her friend Jacob gets a "fever" and then joins a "cult" that involves members who growl at people, and she actually sees a vampire get chased off by bear-sized wolves, and Jacob comes by and reminds her to think back to a certain legend he told her about that explains this, and she STILL needs an eerie dream sequence to piece it all together! ADD IT UP BELLA, YOU DENSE, DENSE GIRL!
You're telling me the winner of the almighty golden apple took that long to piece together such obviousness? That sounds more like denseness on the part of the author, wanting to drag out the "suspense" way longer than she should have.
ONION!!!! the golden ONION!! shame on you
You know what, I just realized that as I was re-reading my post (before I saw yours). Darn you for catching it before I could edit it.
Quote from: MSTJedi on June 10, 2009, 05:20:55 PM
Quote from: esoobaC .T bocaJ on June 10, 2009, 04:59:26 PM
Quote from: MSTJedi on June 10, 2009, 05:34:42 AM
Quote from: Fuzzy Necromancer on June 09, 2009, 06:39:51 PM
This is the only twilight book I've actually read (well, listened to in audiobook form).
The thing I'm wondering about is whether or not Bella will maintain her level of high-grade denseness.
I mean, there are lots of attacks by "animals" in the woods, her friend Jacob gets a "fever" and then joins a "cult" that involves members who growl at people, and she actually sees a vampire get chased off by bear-sized wolves, and Jacob comes by and reminds her to think back to a certain legend he told her about that explains this, and she STILL needs an eerie dream sequence to piece it all together! ADD IT UP BELLA, YOU DENSE, DENSE GIRL!
You're telling me the winner of the almighty golden apple took that long to piece together such obviousness? That sounds more like denseness on the part of the author, wanting to drag out the "suspense" way longer than she should have.
ONION!!!! the golden ONION!! shame on you
You know what, I just realized that as I was re-reading my post (before I saw yours). Darn you for catching it before I could edit it.
You know I saw that too. I wasn't sure if the teacher had a golden Apple in second book or something, so I didn't want to say anything. LOL
Quote from: esoobaC .T bocaJ on June 10, 2009, 04:59:26 PM
Quote from: MSTJedi on June 10, 2009, 05:34:42 AM
Quote from: Fuzzy Necromancer on June 09, 2009, 06:39:51 PM
This is the only twilight book I've actually read (well, listened to in audiobook form).
The thing I'm wondering about is whether or not Bella will maintain her level of high-grade denseness.
I mean, there are lots of attacks by "animals" in the woods, her friend Jacob gets a "fever" and then joins a "cult" that involves members who growl at people, and she actually sees a vampire get chased off by bear-sized wolves, and Jacob comes by and reminds her to think back to a certain legend he told her about that explains this, and she STILL needs an eerie dream sequence to piece it all together! ADD IT UP BELLA, YOU DENSE, DENSE GIRL!
You're telling me the winner of the almighty golden apple took that long to piece together such obviousness? That sounds more like denseness on the part of the author, wanting to drag out the "suspense" way longer than she should have.
ONION!!!! the golden ONION!! shame on you
:D
Hey Caboose, let's try out!
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Quote from: esoobaC .T bocaJ on June 10, 2009, 04:59:26 PM
Quote from: MSTJedi on June 10, 2009, 05:34:42 AM
Quote from: Fuzzy Necromancer on June 09, 2009, 06:39:51 PM
This is the only twilight book I've actually read (well, listened to in audiobook form).
The thing I'm wondering about is whether or not Bella will maintain her level of high-grade denseness.
I mean, there are lots of attacks by "animals" in the woods, her friend Jacob gets a "fever" and then joins a "cult" that involves members who growl at people, and she actually sees a vampire get chased off by bear-sized wolves, and Jacob comes by and reminds her to think back to a certain legend he told her about that explains this, and she STILL needs an eerie dream sequence to piece it all together! ADD IT UP BELLA, YOU DENSE, DENSE GIRL!
You're telling me the winner of the almighty golden apple took that long to piece together such obviousness? That sounds more like denseness on the part of the author, wanting to drag out the "suspense" way longer than she should have.
ONION!!!! the golden ONION!! shame on you
:D
Hey Caboose, let's try out!
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ooh, sounds like fun.......... ah who am I kidding, I'd never get cast the Twilight films. They only use the highest quality talent ;D
Quote from: TeamRAD on June 11, 2009, 02:36:50 AM
Hey Caboose, let's try out!
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Wait where's that? Becasue, seriously, I'd try out. I'd even sneak a "This movie is better with Rifftrax" sign into the shot :D
http://www.filmgecko.com/new-moon-is-casting-extras-apply-online/
Bummer, it may not be legit. :D
Here's another link:
http://acting411.blogspot.com/search?q=eclipse
Caboose, go after the role of Seth Clearwater. Tripe, Royce King, the Second, is yours. As for me, I don't like attention, so I'll settle for being an extra. :)
Quote from: TeamRAD on June 11, 2009, 06:03:31 AM
http://www.filmgecko.com/new-moon-is-casting-extras-apply-online/
Bummer, it may not be legit. :D
Quote"No experience is needed. All looks and types wanted. Make $150-$300 per day."
Oh yeah I know that site, eventually you get to see the gleaming pated Joey Lawrence shilling for this company that you pay a fee to and then they promise to find you work. Whoa! indeed. ::)
Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on June 11, 2009, 05:46:32 AM
Quote from: TeamRAD on June 11, 2009, 02:36:50 AM
Hey Caboose, let's try out!
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Wait where's that? Becasue, seriously, I'd try out. I'd even sneak a "This movie is better with Rifftrax" sign into the shot :D
Why does Edward look like a Cure cover band reject?
Oh Fat Bob would love to be that thin. Come to mention it, there is a sort of resemblance between them though; like blokie from Twilight is the "after" picture in the fitness gadget ad and Fat Bob is the "before". :)
Just saw the trailer.....I.....can't ......still laughing........!
I just love the utter cluelessness on Bella's face when she cuts her finger. What the hell, Bella? You're in a room full of VAMPIRES; do you think they would just shrug it off?
But, like, OHMIGOD, Edward is so HOTT. It makes me want to find an abusive relationship!
So, i finished the book the other day, and my friend Shadow showed me the trailer today...I don't think there is anyway I could capture the moment as well as Ronin (who was laughing his ass off at us). Over to you Ronin....
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Quote from: TeamRAD on June 11, 2009, 02:36:50 AM
Hey Caboose, let's try out!
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Wait where's that? Becasue, seriously, I'd try out. I'd even sneak a "This movie is better with Rifftrax" sign into the shot :D
Why does Edward look like a Cure cover band reject?
I was thinking he looks like Ashton Kutcher, circa his days of playing Chester from
Dude, Where's My Car?Quote from: Trumpysgirl on June 11, 2009, 07:31:55 PM
Just saw the trailer.....I.....can't ......still laughing........!
I've watched the trailer several times, and its opening sequence still makes me giggle non-stop. Bella looks so feckin annoyed. Come on, Ed...you can do so much better than that! Well, so can Alice!
I've got the weekend of November 20th circled on my figurative calendar.
I wanna be cast as Alice. =o
Also, for some reason, this movie coming out makes me want to read "Blood and Chocolate."
Quote from: anais.jude on June 11, 2009, 10:06:29 PM
So, i finished the book the other day, and my friend Shadow showed me the trailer today...I don't think there is anyway I could capture the moment as well as Ronin (who was laughing his ass off at us). Over to you Ronin....
Oh, where to start. My insistence that Edward always looks like someone just flattened his face with a shovel? Your description of how incredibly awesome the book was until the last 40 pages completely f***ed it up? My personal favorite part though was the squeal of indignation accompanied by loud "THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENED!!!" when Indian guy went all CGI lupine.
Quote from: Fuzzy Necromancer on June 12, 2009, 12:00:37 AM
I wanna be cast as Alice. =o
Also, for some reason, this movie coming out makes me want to read "Blood and Chocolate."
Anyone see the movie version of that? I was vaguely curious about it, but I've yet to hear a single good review.
Quote from: Tyrant on May 22, 2009, 07:41:49 AM
I figure if I can survive being forced to watch the Harry Potter movies in the name of Rifftrax, I can endure this series as well.
Though having to watch Twilight a few weeks ago ruined Hot Topic for me for a while. And I've got gift cards for there, too. :-[
No, I'm not sure you can.
Harry Potter isn't the best book series ever written, but it's The Illiad compared to Twilight.
Harry Potter has characters, with personality traits,and the protagonist even has several interests and is at the least a two-dimensional character.
Harry Potter has a plot, complete with rising action, climax, and falling action.
Harry Potter as conflict.
Harry Potter has a protagonist with flaws that he comes to, who has to suffer loss and overcome obstacles, and by "suffer loss", I mean "loss that doesn't just consist of having to spend seconds away from your beloved" and "obstacles" I mean "obstacles other than one's own staggering stupidity and arbitrary unwillingness to accept gifts." Sure, Harry hast overcome his own stupidity as well, but he still needs to actually use his noggin sometimes, and even if the series has it's share of deus ex machinas, not everything just falls into his lap.
Harry Potter has vampires, well, a vampire, and that vampire doesn't sparkle. They buy blood-flavored lollipops, but they still don't sparkle.
In Harry Potter, things HAPPEN. Sure, there may be padded out quidditch scenes, and lots of high school drama, but that's my point. It's actual drama, with conflicts, fights, and a lack of perfection, not superficial idiot plots based on Bella worrying if Edward is too perfect for her to be real. He also fights monsters, duels for his life with evil sorcerers, and pass exams. While Harry Potter spent days practicing the patronus charm and summoning spells, Bella just wins the golden onion without any effort.
Did I mention Harry Potter doesn't have sparkly vampires?
Quote from: Fuzzy Necromancer on June 12, 2009, 07:03:27 AM
Did I mention Harry Potter doesn't have sparkly vampires?
Sold!!!
Actually not really. Can't stand Harry Potter but from what you described, I'd rather read/watch HP thousands of times than surrender even a few precious moments of life not related to a Rifftrax version on Twilight.
Oh, for anyone interested (or bored), here's my rant about Twilight. I was very frustrated at the time I wrote it:
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=119924767&blogId=487797967 (http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=119924767&blogId=487797967)
Adding this post to this thread:
Yes, the second in the Twilight Saga is here, dragging along with it such beloved characters as the Elf, "I'M HARPO!", and, probably others!!! Now with wearwilfs!!!
Wonder in silent agony, 'WHY oh WHY does the drop of blood GROW ON THE CARPET?!!!'
If she can cut herself on WRAPPING PAPER, what else can she cut herself on?!!!
How much Walkening sans Walken can a movie take?
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh.....it's going to be agonizingly antagonizing. If you thought Edward "Twinkle Tits" *Last Name Here* was passive-agressively abusive in Twilight, then you are CLEARLY not familiar with the mind wreckage that is:
New Moon.
I am looking forward to this. Surely this will atone for some things I have done....
Quote from: Ayriana22 on June 04, 2009, 10:48:29 PMOne another note.... What I find REALLY funny is that even in that 2minute trailer there are at LEAST 3 inconsistencies with the books.
I can't wait for this movie to come out just so someone can riff it a new one...though honestly... i can't wait for the 4th movie to come out so we can all get this out of our system and move on to more interesting things... like... watching paint dry... or grass grow... or... any number of other things that don't involve annoying emo teen vamps.... Bleh.
What I find funny is that somebody is actually taking it so seriously as to actually comparing it to the book....STOP THAT!!!!
Everything else you said...I agree with. SPOT. ON.
Well its based on a book! A series of books! (series of tubes what?) A series of craptastic books! Sorry i guess i'm a purist... i want my shitty books consistent with their shitty movies... LOL ;D At least when they did harry potter they were pretty consistent with the story line
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I guess that's Dakota Fanning there.
Who, Alec?
Hoo boy, brace yourself everyone. The second trailer for New Moon was released recently.
Dear Lord. So here's what we have to look forward to.
-Since Edward's gone, Bella decides that the only way she can see him is to put herself in life or death situations. Hey genius, here's a suggestion. USE A PHOTOGRAPH!! Christ, I've never seen such a miserably clingy character before.
-Apparently, all werewolves in the Twilight universe moonlight as male body builders.
-No matter how old she is, Dakota Fanning still looks Goddamn creepy. It's like her eyes keep getting bigger as she ages.
-And oh God... we're not going to see Edwards bony white naked ass in this movie, are we? Please say no.
It's not even out yet, and already I want to see the Rifftrax crew tear it apart.
Okay, buck up here we go.
- For the life of me I can't understand why Bella doesn't just go for the werewolf. Oh noes! Someone who's better looking than Edward and actually interesting in terms of characterization? Perish the thought!
- Real life: If a guy stepped out into the sun in front of everyone all sparkly, everyone would think the same thing: body glitter. Somehow I don't think "vampire" would be their next thought.
- Dakota Fanning is in this? Where?
- And finally, there's this stupid....wait a minute. Is that....Michael Sheen? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
- How could you, you magnificent bastard?! Sure, you make kickass werewolf and probably a better vampire, but TWILIGHT??
Okay, are we sure this isn't a comedy? It looks hilarious! I'd almost be tempted to see it in the theater if I didn't know the Rifftrax for it will make it even more hysterical.
:D
Quote from: Toby Danger on September 14, 2009, 11:02:52 AM
-Since Edward's gone, Bella decides that the only way she can see him is to put herself in life or death situations. Hey genius, here's a suggestion. USE A PHOTOGRAPH!! Christ, I've never seen such a miserably clingy character before.
In the book Edward hid all her pictures of him because in his mind it would make it easier on her if she didn't have anything to remind her of him. And no, there shouldn't be any naked white butts in this movie.
Quote from: Sicgirl on September 14, 2009, 12:12:25 PM
In the book Edward hid all her pictures of him because in his mind it would make it easier on her if she didn't have anything to remind her of him. And no, there shouldn't be any naked white butts in this movie.
Jesus, Edward really is an asshole.
Quote from: Toby Danger on September 14, 2009, 12:21:26 PM
Quote from: Sicgirl on September 14, 2009, 12:12:25 PM
In the book Edward hid all her pictures of him because in his mind it would make it easier on her if she didn't have anything to remind her of him. And no, there shouldn't be any naked white butts in this movie.
Jesus, Edward really is an asshole.
No. He's brooding, dark, disturbed, and mysterious. That means he's dreamy.
Quote from: Thrifty on September 14, 2009, 12:38:37 PM
No. He's brooding, dark, disturbed, and mysterious. That means he's dreamy.
So was Ted Bundy.
Quote from: Toby Danger on September 14, 2009, 12:21:26 PM
Quote from: Sicgirl on September 14, 2009, 12:12:25 PM
In the book Edward hid all her pictures of him because in his mind it would make it easier on her if she didn't have anything to remind her of him. And no, there shouldn't be any naked white butts in this movie.
Jesus, Edward really is an asshole.
You don't know the half of it. Try the part where he removes the engine from her truck to keep her from going to see Jacob.
By the way, did Bella's little vision of Edward while on the motorcycle remind anyone else of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IsBlP9YVms)?
Is it just be or is Edward the creepest character ever put on a movie screen. He seems to want to controll every aspect of Bella's life and we are supposed to like him for it. Twilight has real twisted logic.
Quote from: Doctor Who? on September 15, 2009, 08:05:43 PM
Is it just be or is Edward the creepest character ever put on a movie screen. He seems to want to controll every aspect of Bella's life and we are supposed to like his for it. Twilight has real twisted logic.
Well, you have to keep in mind who exactly wrote this drivel. Basically, a repressed Mormon chick who apparently has the hots for the dangerous, controlling asshole type. "But he only does it because he loves me!"
No, he does it because to him, you're a possession to be done with as he sees fit.
Quote from: MSTJedi on September 15, 2009, 10:12:41 PM
Quote from: Doctor Who? on September 15, 2009, 08:05:43 PM
Is it just be or is Edward the creepest character ever put on a movie screen. He seems to want to controll every aspect of Bella's life and we are supposed to like his for it. Twilight has real twisted logic.
Well, you have to keep in mind who exactly wrote this drivel. Basically, a repressed Mormon chick who apparently has the hots for the dangerous, controlling asshole type. "But he only does it because he loves me!"
No, he does it because to him, you're a possession to be done with as he sees fit.
Oddly that doesn't make it any less creepy.
I mean it I find him to be really creepy and the fact that woman like him is making me affraid for the future of the human race.
Someone needs to make Edwardisacreep.com.
Apparently Stephanie Meyer thinks stalking is really romantic (she stated thus in an interview that doesn't have a working link anymore).
I'm pretty sure others, like Shiori Ino, wouldn't agree.
Quote from: Doctor Who? on September 16, 2009, 07:32:50 AM
Quote from: MSTJedi on September 15, 2009, 10:12:41 PM
Quote from: Doctor Who? on September 15, 2009, 08:05:43 PM
Is it just be or is Edward the creepest character ever put on a movie screen. He seems to want to controll every aspect of Bella's life and we are supposed to like his for it. Twilight has real twisted logic.
Well, you have to keep in mind who exactly wrote this drivel. Basically, a repressed Mormon chick who apparently has the hots for the dangerous, controlling asshole type. "But he only does it because he loves me!"
No, he does it because to him, you're a possession to be done with as he sees fit.
I mean it I find him to be really creepy and the fact that woman like him is making me affraid for the future of the human race.
:D
I think I'm gonna get one of these later on today...
http://cgi.ebay.com/TEAM-ALICE-ROSALIE-SUCKS-Twilight-Black-T-shirt-MEDIUM_W0QQitemZ220398512096QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3350c667e0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
I love it.
Quote from: MSTJedi on September 15, 2009, 10:12:41 PM
Quote from: Doctor Who? on September 15, 2009, 08:05:43 PM
Is it just be or is Edward the creepest character ever put on a movie screen. He seems to want to controll every aspect of Bella's life and we are supposed to like his for it. Twilight has real twisted logic.
Well, you have to keep in mind who exactly wrote this drivel. Basically, a repressed Mormon chick who apparently has the hots for the dangerous, controlling asshole type. "But he only does it because he loves me!"
No, he does it because to him, you're a possession to be done with as he sees fit.
It's essentially a mix of the 'badboy' fantasy and a harlequin romance, instead of the swarthy farmhand, misunderstood convict or biker from the wrong side of the tracks it's a vampire. It's a story that's existed for centuries.
Doesn't make it any less creepy.
I like the t-shirt that says "MY NAME IS TWILIGHT AND I AM A DRACULA"
I've never read the books and haven't seen the rifftrax yet, but it still makes me chuckle.
Besides the armadillo & the Golden Onion, it's all about Alice, dig: (it's time to plug this again!)
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And yes, after contemplating it for a few months, I'll don the cocktail dress & high heels!
I hope that in the next movie, Alice's fancy hair finally allows her to take flight.
Why not? This is Twilight. The vampires do sparkle in the sun, afterall.
Quote from: Tyrant on September 16, 2009, 11:53:56 AM
Why not? This is Twilight. The vampires do sparkle in the sun, afterall.
Which reminds me,Where on earth did she get that from?!
The Vampires can't become bats(One of the coolest things any monster can do)but for no reason they sparkel?!
Quote from: Doctor Who? on September 16, 2009, 12:01:43 PM
Quote from: Tyrant on September 16, 2009, 11:53:56 AM
Why not? This is Twilight. The vampires do sparkle in the sun, afterall.
Which reminds me,Where on earth did she get that from?!
The Vampires can't become bats(One of the coolest things any monster can do)but for no reason they sparkel?!
Let's not delve too deeply in her mind. Who knows the horrible dark things you'll find down there.
Quote from: Doctor Who? on September 16, 2009, 12:01:43 PM
Quote from: Tyrant on September 16, 2009, 11:53:56 AM
Why not? This is Twilight. The vampires do sparkle in the sun, afterall.
Which reminds me,Where on earth did she get that from?!
The Vampires can't become bats(One of the coolest things any monster can do)but for no reason they sparkel?!
My guess is that she wanted something "magical and beautiful" and a convenient plot devise for having the Cullens playing baseball during the day instead of the exploding into flame thing.
God damnit I hate the woman who wrote these. Hate hate hate hate. She wants to write a shitty romance story, and she wants there to be vampires, so she makes these super creatures that have almost none of the features of vampires (in fact, the only one being that they drink blood) but she calls them vampires.
I guess I shouldn't be too upset. The vampires in "My Best Friend is a Vampire" were the same.
But you know, I have a sincerely hard time deciding which incarnation of vampires I hate more... Twilight or True Blood.
Quote from: Thrifty on September 16, 2009, 01:37:51 PM
God damnit I hate the woman who wrote these. Hate hate hate hate. She wants to write a shitty romance story, and she wants there to be vampires, so she makes these super creatures that have almost none of the features of vampires (in fact, the only one being that they drink blood) but she calls them vampires.
I guess I shouldn't be too upset. The vampires in "My Best Friend is a Vampire" were the same.
But you know, I have a sincerely hard time deciding which incarnation of vampires I hate more... Twilight or True Blood.
I can't hate someone I've never met, so I'm not with you there. It's not like Stephanie Meyers knew what a huge deal this was all going to be and how many people would be against it when she wrote the stupid books.
However, her treatment of vampire mythology gets my blood boiling as well. Yes, not all fictional vampires are created equal but dammit there are certain rules that shouldn't be ignored! The whole seduction of becoming a vampire is eternal life and beauty, but at the same time you had to face the consequences like never being able to see the sun again and basically being a killer.
And of course the whole damned for all eternity thing...
Quote from: THE QUEEN!!! on September 16, 2009, 12:27:23 PM
Quote from: Doctor Who? on September 16, 2009, 12:01:43 PM
Quote from: Tyrant on September 16, 2009, 11:53:56 AM
Why not? This is Twilight. The vampires do sparkle in the sun, afterall.
Which reminds me,Where on earth did she get that from?!
The Vampires can't become bats(One of the coolest things any monster can do)but for no reason they sparkel?!
Let's not delve too deeply in her mind. Who knows the horrible dark things you'll find down there.
I find her mind more scary then real vampires.
Where is Blade when you need him?!
Quote from: Doctor Who? on September 16, 2009, 12:01:43 PM
Quote from: Tyrant on September 16, 2009, 11:53:56 AM
Why not? This is Twilight. The vampires do sparkle in the sun, afterall.
Which reminds me,Where on earth did she get that from?!
The Vampires can't become bats(One of the coolest things any monster can do)but for no reason they sparkel?!
She says it came from a dream she had.
But why do "vamprires love to play baseball"?
Is that explained in the book somewhere?
'Cause they suck at hoops?
Or they got laughed out of too many bowling alleys?
Bowling shirts would actually dignify these people!
Quote from: PlayMSTie on September 16, 2009, 02:36:01 PM
Quote from: Doctor Who? on September 16, 2009, 12:01:43 PM
Quote from: Tyrant on September 16, 2009, 11:53:56 AM
Why not? This is Twilight. The vampires do sparkle in the sun, afterall.
Which reminds me,Where on earth did she get that from?!
The Vampires can't become bats(One of the coolest things any monster can do)but for no reason they sparkel?!
She says it came from a dream she had.
I have dreamed about a lot of things the world doesn't want to know about and that I should not show them. She should have had the same sense.
Quote from: Doctor Who? on September 16, 2009, 04:17:58 PM
Quote from: PlayMSTie on September 16, 2009, 02:36:01 PM
Quote from: Doctor Who? on September 16, 2009, 12:01:43 PM
Quote from: Tyrant on September 16, 2009, 11:53:56 AM
Why not? This is Twilight. The vampires do sparkle in the sun, afterall.
Which reminds me,Where on earth did she get that from?!
The Vampires can't become bats(One of the coolest things any monster can do)but for no reason they sparkel?!
She says it came from a dream she had.
I have dreamed about a lot of things the world doesn't want to know about and that I should show them. She should have had the same sense.
No shit!
Just last night I dreamed the cast of the Love Boat was playing nude shuffleboard...WHERE'S
MY FRANCHISE?!?
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Quote from: Doctor Who? on September 16, 2009, 04:17:58 PM
Quote from: PlayMSTie on September 16, 2009, 02:36:01 PM
Quote from: Doctor Who? on September 16, 2009, 12:01:43 PM
Quote from: Tyrant on September 16, 2009, 11:53:56 AM
Why not? This is Twilight. The vampires do sparkle in the sun, afterall.
Which reminds me,Where on earth did she get that from?!
The Vampires can't become bats(One of the coolest things any monster can do)but for no reason they sparkel?!
She says it came from a dream she had.
I have dreamed about a lot of things the world doesn't want to know about and that I should show them. She should have had the same sense.
No shit!
Just last night I dreamed the cast of the Love Boat was playing nude shuffleboard...WHERE'S MY FRANCHISE?!?
I'm sad to say I think there may be a market for that.
Quote from: Doctor Who? on September 16, 2009, 04:30:33 PM
I'm sad to say I think there may be a market for that.
Just the thought of people actually wanting to see Captain Stubbing erotically nude makes me cringe. :o
Quote from: Priss on September 17, 2009, 05:49:04 AM
Just the thought of people actually wanting to see Captain Stubbing erotically nude makes me cringe. :o
How do you feel about artistically nude?
I'm not entirely sure some people should even be artistically nude. I'd have to confer with other artists on this to be sure.
Quote from: Doctor Who? on September 16, 2009, 12:01:43 PM
Quote from: Tyrant on September 16, 2009, 11:53:56 AM
Why not? This is Twilight. The vampires do sparkle in the sun, afterall.
Which reminds me,Where on earth did she get that from?!
Do you really want to know? :D
From imdb...
Parts of the Twilight story are based on a dream that Meyer had. In her dream, the vampire sparkled in the sun. She included this detail when she transcribed her dream, and wove it into the storyline as she turned the account of her dream into the novel. The pseudoscientific reason as to why sunlight makes vampires' skin sparkle is stated in her website: "They appear to have skin like ours, albeit very fair skin. The skin serves the same general purpose of protecting the body. However, the cells that make up their skin are not pliant like our cells, they are hard and reflective like crystal." The hard and reflective cells of the skin of the vampires is what gives them strong, unbreakable skin and the "sparkling" effect from the sunlight. It also works well as a plot device that adds to the mystique of the vampires. In most vampire stories, sunlight kills vampires; in some, it does not. For example, the original Count Dracula (in Bram Stoker's novel) was not harmed by sunlight and could go about the town during the day. In the Twilight world that Meyer created, sunlight won't kill a vampire, but what it does to their skin would attract a lot of attention and potentially expose them to the general public. There you have it, DocWho, and I don't want Blade anywhere near the Cullens. This franchise is too much fun!
Quote from: Bob on September 16, 2009, 03:59:19 PM
But why do "vamprires love to play baseball"?
Okay, that she got so right. Baseball's the ultimate, and I draft her...
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;)
Quote from: TeamRAD on September 17, 2009, 11:30:52 AM
Quote from: Doctor Who? on September 16, 2009, 12:01:43 PM
Quote from: Tyrant on September 16, 2009, 11:53:56 AM
Why not? This is Twilight. The vampires do sparkle in the sun, afterall.
Which reminds me,Where on earth did she get that from?!
Do you really want to know? :D
From imdb...
Parts of the Twilight story are based on a dream that Meyer had. In her dream, the vampire sparkled in the sun. She included this detail when she transcribed her dream, and wove it into the storyline as she turned the account of her dream into the novel. The pseudoscientific reason as to why sunlight makes vampires' skin sparkle is stated in her website: "They appear to have skin like ours, albeit very fair skin. The skin serves the same general purpose of protecting the body. However, the cells that make up their skin are not pliant like our cells, they are hard and reflective like crystal." The hard and reflective cells of the skin of the vampires is what gives them strong, unbreakable skin and the "sparkling" effect from the sunlight. It also works well as a plot device that adds to the mystique of the vampires. In most vampire stories, sunlight kills vampires; in some, it does not. For example, the original Count Dracula (in Bram Stoker's novel) was not harmed by sunlight and could go about the town during the day. In the Twilight world that Meyer created, sunlight won't kill a vampire, but what it does to their skin would attract a lot of attention and potentially expose them to the general public.
There you have it, DocWho, and I don't want Blade anywhere near the Cullens. This franchise is too much fun!
Quote from: Bob on September 16, 2009, 03:59:19 PM
But why do "vamprires love to play baseball"?
Okay, that she got so right. Baseball's the ultimate, and I draft her...
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;)
It doesn't add anything other then making them look like they should be hanging out at a gay night club! I can't decide if I hate here or whoever wrote Pearl Harbor more.
I was happy to hear that Stephen King released a statement saying that Stephanie Myers, "can't write worth a darn" and especially happy when she apparently stopped working on her new Twilight book "Midnight Sun" after it was leaked onto the internet.
Hopefully she will turn her pen to serial romance books and I never have to hear about her again.
The whole thing about "You knew you're in a room full of vampires and you're surprised that you're attacked..." thing....
My question is, these vampires have supposedly be living amongst humans - to the point that they even go to school and practice medicine - for decades?
And yet they still haven't learned to control themselves when they see the least bit of blood no matter what the circumstance? Then how is it that they're able to keep up the pretense of being normal? Or is every other human supposedly as terminally clueless as Bella?
Quote from: Trumpysgirl on September 14, 2009, 11:20:57 AM
- Dakota Fanning is in this? Where?
At the end of trailer #3 - "This may hurt a little"
Quote- And finally, there's this stupid....wait a minute. Is that....Michael Sheen? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
- How could you, you magnificent bastard?! Sure, you make kickass werewolf and probably a better vampire, but TWILIGHT??
For that matter, that group looks like the whole supporting cast of
Underworld and
Underworld: EvolutionFar as Michael Sheen goes, if he's going to get a good "Brendan Fraiser-type" career going here (a few silly things for the money and then something wonderful) through vampire movies....more power to him.
Quote from: ebeth on September 17, 2009, 01:58:44 PM
I was happy to hear that Stephen King released a statement saying that Stephanie Myers, "can't write worth a darn".....
Took this long for someone in the industry to finally say it?
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on September 17, 2009, 02:14:57 PM
The whole thing about "You knew you're in a room full of vampires and you're surprised that you're attacked..." thing....
My question is, these vampires have supposedly be living amongst humans - to the point that they even go to school and practice medicine - for decades?
And yet they still haven't learned to control themselves when they see the least bit of blood no matter what the circumstance? Then how is it that they're able to keep up the pretense of being normal? Or is every other human supposedly as terminally clueless as Bella?
Quote from: Trumpysgirl on September 14, 2009, 11:20:57 AM
- Dakota Fanning is in this? Where?
At the end of trailer #3 - "This may hurt a little"
Quote- And finally, there's this stupid....wait a minute. Is that....Michael Sheen? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
- How could you, you magnificent bastard?! Sure, you make kickass werewolf and probably a better vampire, but TWILIGHT??
For that matter, that group looks like the whole supporting cast of Underworld and Underworld: Evolution
Far as Michael Sheen goes, if he's going to get a good "Brendan Fraiser-type" career going here (a few silly things for the money and then something wonderful) through vampire movies....more power to him.
Quote from: ebeth on September 17, 2009, 01:58:44 PM
I was happy to hear that Stephen King released a statement saying that Stephanie Myers, "can't write worth a darn".....
Took this long for someone in the industry to finally say it?
:clap: :clap: :clap:
Can we have a law that just out and out bans Tween and Teenage girls from buying books or going to the movies? Sure that may seem harsh but think of all the pain we would avoid.
Quote from: Doctor Who? on September 17, 2009, 12:42:13 PM
I can't decide if I hate here or whoever wrote Pearl Harbor more.
Wow, that is a tough one! :D
About the only think I like about Pearl Harbor is a friend of mine was an extra on the set. He is a tall, big guy that looked like he could fit in that period. The scene right before the attack on the harbor where there are a bunch of sailers on the battleship deck, he is one eating a doughnut and laughting.
Quote from: Bob on September 17, 2009, 03:57:44 PM
Quote from: Doctor Who? on September 17, 2009, 12:42:13 PM
I can't decide if I hate here or whoever wrote Pearl Harbor more.
Wow, that is a tough one! :D
About the only think I like about Pearl Harbor is a friend of mine was an extra on the set. He is a tall, big guy that looked like he could fit in that period. The scene right before the attack on the harbor where there are a bunch of sailers on the battleship deck, he is one eating a doughnut and laughting.
That's cool.
I really love History,so Pearl Harbor was so painful for me. The stupid love story tacked on to a real event that didn't need it. That is also why I hate Titanic.
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on September 17, 2009, 02:14:57 PM
Quote from: Trumpysgirl on September 14, 2009, 11:20:57 AM
- And finally, there's this stupid....wait a minute. Is that....Michael Sheen? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
- How could you, you magnificent bastard?! Sure, you make kickass werewolf and probably a better vampire, but TWILIGHT??
For that matter, that group looks like the whole supporting cast of Underworld and Underworld: Evolution
Far as Michael Sheen goes, if he's going to get a good "Brendan Fraiser-type" career going here (a few silly things for the money and then something wonderful) through vampire movies....more power to him.
Well, the real bitch of it is that I love Michael Sheen and the very fact that he's in this movie is possibly enough incentive for me to see it. That I would actually pay money to see this tripe for one guy is in itself a horrifying thought. Hell, the only reason I paid money to see
Troy was because Brian Cox was in it.
Quote from: Doctor Who? on September 17, 2009, 03:06:29 PM
Can we have a law that just out and out bans Tween and Teenage girls from buying books or going to the movies? Sure that may seem harsh but think of all the pain we would avoid.
If that were the case we wouldn't have Nancy Drew or even the Hardy Boys.
The problem isn't the audience so much as it is the people pandering to them and giving them stuff written by hacks...
I know there aren't many women in the movie industry but there's a good number in publishing (or there were). How can they look themselves in the mirror when they publish stuff from a hack like Meyers?
Quote from: Doctor Who? on September 17, 2009, 03:06:29 PM
Can we have a law that just out and out bans Tween and Teenage girls from buying books or going to the movies? Sure that may seem harsh but think of all the pain we would avoid.
Would this ban retroactively remove the things you liked growing up or is this just another crochety old man "young 'uns nowadays" post?
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on September 17, 2009, 02:14:57 PM
My question is, these vampires have supposedly be living amongst humans - to the point that they even go to school ... for decades?
I'm still not entirely clear on why they do this, I mean if it's a way to prey on the most easily available source of virgin blood or something that would make some sort of sense. Why would you go to school if you don't have to? I mean even if the lesson plans change every so often you've already done all of the curriculum over and over. Are the vampires educationaly subnormal or something that they have to keep repeating years?
Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on September 17, 2009, 07:30:21 PM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on September 17, 2009, 02:14:57 PM
My question is, these vampires have supposedly be living amongst humans - to the point that they even go to school ... for decades?
I'm still not entirely clear on why they do this, I mean if it's a way to prey on the most easily available source of virgin blood or something that would make some sort of sense. Why would you go to school if you don't have to? I mean even if the lesson plans change every so often you've already done all of the curriculum over and over. Are the vampires educational subnormal or something that they have to keep repeating years?
And wouldn't they need to change schools every year? Being in the same grade so much is bound to attract some attention.
Quote from: ScottH on September 17, 2009, 06:49:08 PM
Quote from: Doctor Who? on September 17, 2009, 03:06:29 PM
Can we have a law that just out and out bans Tween and Teenage girls from buying books or going to the movies? Sure that may seem harsh but think of all the pain we would avoid.
Would this ban retroactively remove the things you liked growing up or is this just another crochety old man "young 'uns nowadays" post?
I have never been a teenage girl.
Since the only way you can avoid their entertainment is for it not to exist I just assumed..
With the way marketing is done today ,you bet.
If I see one more T-Shirt I will kick a puppy into something.
Yeah, the agony of other people being into something you don't personally enjoy is a killer huh?
Not that I'm defending 'Twilight' or anything (lord no), but Meyer's vampires aren't that heretical. That is to say there's no such thing as vampire dogma. Fangs and sunlight death became common vampire accessories only around 1958 with Hammer Studios' 'Horror of Dracula'. Bram Stoker's 1897 novel 'Dracula' introduced pale vampires, blood transfusion as transformation, control of wolves, rats, bats and fog, vampires have to be invited, and the whole sleeping in grave dirt thing. Slavic folklore vampires were actually swarthy colored from all of the blood-drinking, and a few cultures even have the vampire venom (although I think that's only a coincidence). The 'stalking = love' aspect of 'Twilight' is kind of like the 1872 lesbian vampire story 'Carmilla'. And the goofy vampire super-powers in 'Twilight' are all ripped-off from Anne Rice's vampire novels and the World of Darkness RPGs.
Really the only unique aspects of 'Twilight' vampires are the fact that, apparently, they aren't undead--from what I've read online they're supposed to be hollow automaton-like creatures made of diamonds, hence the sparkles. I'd say Meyer is following in a long tradition of vampire novelists making up crazy stuff to avoid boring the reader.
Quote from: Doctor Who? on September 17, 2009, 03:06:29 PMCan we have a law that just out and out bans Tween and Teenage girls from buying books or going to the movies? Sure that may seem harsh but think of all the pain we would avoid.
I know you're joking, so I'll abstain from mocking you for this statement.
Quote from: Relaxing Dragon on September 17, 2009, 07:34:29 PM
Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on September 17, 2009, 07:30:21 PM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on September 17, 2009, 02:14:57 PM
My question is, these vampires have supposedly be living amongst humans - to the point that they even go to school ... for decades?
I'm still not entirely clear on why they do this, I mean if it's a way to prey on the most easily available source of virgin blood or something that would make some sort of sense. Why would you go to school if you don't have to? I mean even if the lesson plans change every so often you've already done all of the curriculum over and over. Are the vampires educational subnormal or something that they have to keep repeating years?
And wouldn't they need to change schools every year? Being in the same grade so much is bound to attract some attention.
Apparently, they start freshman and go through senior, then they have to move to another town. At least that's the impression I got from the movie.
But why?
It makes no sense, I mean why do they just pretend to be youthful looking twentysomethings? Or are they all just paedophiles?
Also wouldn't they run out of cities or at least run into someone who had known they as high school students 20 years ago after a while?
Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on September 18, 2009, 06:55:49 AM
But why?
It makes no sense, I mean why do they just pretend to be youthful looking twentysomethings? Or are they all just paedophiles?
And Emmanuel Lewis has looked like a third grader for decades....he hasn't been going to elementary school all of that time. If you can fake the paperwork to get into school, you can fake that you've graduated already.
I think it's just a convenient plot device, guys. Edward has to meet the angsty teenaged girl or there's no story, so it has to take place in High School where all teenage drama occurs. This is one of the many faults of Meyer's writing, IMO. Convenient plot device or not, good writers can often mask it well enough that you almost don't notice it or, failing that, good writers can find better ways of explaining it or ridiculing it themselves in the narrative. Meyer? You can drive semi-trucks through the logic holes and she never even bothers to explain anything. Sloppy.
Logically, these vampires could go to college for a several years at least without anyone being suspicious. So why are they sticking with High School?
Because that's where her emotional development stopped?
That's not actually just a slam, though obviously it is at least in part, but something I've noticed with bad writers (especially in the bastion of all bad writing - fan fiction).
Bad writers can't truly become separated from their characters (which is why much fan fiction is written in the first person), the emotions and motivations of the bad writer are identical to the motivations and emotions of the characters themselves.
Quote from: Tyrant on September 18, 2009, 08:09:38 AM
I think it's just a convenient plot device, guys. Edward has to meet the angsty teenaged girl or there's no story, so it has to take place in High School where all teenage drama occurs.
Like I said. Hack writing.
Quote from: Thrifty on September 18, 2009, 03:21:49 AM
Quote from: Doctor Who? on September 17, 2009, 03:06:29 PMCan we have a law that just out and out bans Tween and Teenage girls from buying books or going to the movies? Sure that may seem harsh but think of all the pain we would avoid.
I know you're joking, so I'll abstain from mocking you for this statement.
Mocking is more fun
Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on September 18, 2009, 08:10:32 AM
Because that's where her emotional development stopped?
That's not actually just a slam, though obviously it is at least in part, but something I've noticed with bad writers (especially in the bastion of all bad writing - fan fiction).
Bad writers can't truly become separated from their characters (which is why much fan fiction is written in the first person), the emotions and motivations of the bad writer are identical to the motivations and emotions of the characters themselves.
Here's something I've wondered: did bad fanfiction exist prior to the internet? Like, were people writing Simon & Simon fanfiction in the 80's?
Oh yes, slash fiction was originally published in fanzines and the like. Not sure if there is any pre-net Simon and Simon stuff but you never know...
Quote from: dignan on September 18, 2009, 08:32:31 AM
Here's something I've wondered: did bad fanfiction exist prior to the internet? Like, were people writing Simon & Simon fanfiction in the 80's?
Don't usually like to quote Wiki but...
"The first science fiction fanzine, The Comet, was published in 1930 by the Science Correspondence Club in Chicago. The term "fanzine" was coined in October 1940 by Russ Chauvenet. "Fanzines" were distinguished from "prozines", that is, all professional magazines. Prior to that, the fan publications were known as "fanmags" or "letterzines."
Ever heard of "Filk" (http://www.prometheus-music.com/eli/leslie.html) - folk songs written based on different sci-fi shows and books (http://www.mcgath.com/filks.html)? Not parody songs. Stuff like those titles Kirk mentions in Star Trek V - "Moons Over Rygel VII". I mean some people would sell their stuff on cassette and be listed as guest/performers at sci-fi conventions.
That's fascinating. Does this mean there could be Maude fanfiction?
Quote from: dignan on September 18, 2009, 08:32:31 AMHere's something I've wondered: did bad fanfiction exist prior to the internet? Like, were people writing Simon & Simon fanfiction in the 80's?
Sure. One of my mom's friends passed around Star Trek fan fiction back in the 80's. It was called "Dave Trek", and featured the author and his friends (my mom among them). He passed around hard copies printed out and bound at Kinkos.
It's nice that the internet gave these people a home to share their...um...mostly crappy works of fiction with the world.
Quote from: dignan on September 18, 2009, 09:48:43 AM
That's fascinating. Does this mean there could be Maude fanfiction?
I guess there's a fanfiction saying "If there's a franchise there's going to be fanfiction for it." I'd searched up Love Boat fanfiction and 'lo there are fan written stories out there for the show even though it preceded the internet. I guess the scariest type of fanfiction would be the X-Rated porn fiction, of Twilight there is probably a vast amount out there. Scarily enough you can find porn for even characters who are not organic, like the Transformers, the 80's Transformers.
Quote from: Priss on September 18, 2009, 10:53:12 AM
Quote from: dignan on September 18, 2009, 09:48:43 AM
That's fascinating. Does this mean there could be Maude fanfiction?
I guess there's a fanfiction saying "If there's a franchise there's going to be fanfiction for it." I'd searched up Love Boat fanfiction and 'lo there are fan written stories out there for the show even though it preceded the internet. I guess the scariest type of fanfiction would be the X-Rated porn fiction, of Twilight there is probably a vast amount out there. Scarily enough you can find porn for even characters who are not organic, like the Transformers, the 80's Transformers.
A buddy of mine wrote a Digimon porn-fic on a dare, about 8 years ago. It's burned in my brain forever. I could probably find it if you're curious.
Quote from: Priss on September 18, 2009, 10:53:12 AM
Quote from: dignan on September 18, 2009, 09:48:43 AM
That's fascinating. Does this mean there could be Maude fanfiction?
I guess there's a fanfiction saying "If there's a franchise there's going to be fanfiction for it." I'd searched up Love Boat fanfiction and 'lo there are fan written stories out there for the show even though it preceded the internet. I guess the scariest type of fanfiction would be the X-Rated porn fiction, of Twilight there is probably a vast amount out there. Scarily enough you can find porn for even characters who are not organic, like the Transformers, the 80's Transformers.
:gouge:
I'm good!
Quote from: Priss on September 18, 2009, 10:53:12 AM
Quote from: dignan on September 18, 2009, 09:48:43 AM
That's fascinating. Does this mean there could be Maude fanfiction?
I guess there's a fanfiction saying "If there's a franchise there's going to be fanfiction for it." I'd searched up Love Boat fanfiction and 'lo there are fan written stories out there for the show even though it preceded the internet. I guess the scariest type of fanfiction would be the X-Rated porn fiction, of Twilight there is probably a vast amount out there. Scarily enough you can find porn for even characters who are not organic, like the Transformers, the 80's Transformers.
A couple of friends of mine wrote a McDonald's porn fic some years ago as a joke and put it up on the site we all wrote for. I've fortunately forgotten specifics but there was a very disturbing scene featuring Ronald McDonald and Margaret Thatcher in it.
I was once told about a fanfic of The Beatles featuring a pregnant Paul McCartney.
I actually would have liked to have seen that one. In fact, it might have been someone from this board in chat telling me about it.
Quote from: dignan on September 18, 2009, 12:07:42 PM
I was once told about a fanfic of The Beatles featuring a pregnant Paul McCartney.
I actually would have liked to have seen that one. In fact, it might have been someone from this board in chat telling me about it.
That's absurd (http://web.archive.org/web/20040211204827/http://soupfiction.net/viewstory.php?sid=1691).
Quote from: Thrifty on September 18, 2009, 12:12:51 PM
Quote from: dignan on September 18, 2009, 12:07:42 PM
I was once told about a fanfic of The Beatles featuring a pregnant Paul McCartney.
I actually would have liked to have seen that one. In fact, it might have been someone from this board in chat telling me about it.
That's absurd (http://web.archive.org/web/20040211204827/http://soupfiction.net/viewstory.php?sid=1691).
Wow. That's awful. The thing I noticed was that right off the bat, there's nothing in the way it reads that would make me think, "Hey, that's TOTALLY Paul McCartney speaking." It could just as easily be Paul...Anka.
And, I need to post what is, when collected together, possibly the greatest series of fanfiction ever: the work of BabyMimi.
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/159792/BabyMimi
The way she uses verbs and adjectives are delightful.
Quote from: Tyrant on September 18, 2009, 11:14:30 AM
Quote from: Priss on September 18, 2009, 10:53:12 AM
Quote from: dignan on September 18, 2009, 09:48:43 AM
That's fascinating. Does this mean there could be Maude fanfiction?
I guess there's a fanfiction saying "If there's a franchise there's going to be fanfiction for it." I'd searched up Love Boat fanfiction and 'lo there are fan written stories out there for the show even though it preceded the internet. I guess the scariest type of fanfiction would be the X-Rated porn fiction, of Twilight there is probably a vast amount out there. Scarily enough you can find porn for even characters who are not organic, like the Transformers, the 80's Transformers.
A couple of friends of mine wrote a McDonald's porn fic some years ago as a joke and put it up on the site we all wrote for. I've fortunately forgotten specifics but there was a very disturbing scene featuring Ronald McDonald and Margaret Thatcher in it.
And not Wendy? Not sure it'd be savory but it seems more obvious than the Thatch.
Could you people please quit scaring me for life. I logged on here to talk about how much I hate Twilight and now I am being forced to think of things no one should ever think about.
Quote from: Doctor Who? on September 18, 2009, 08:24:53 PM
Could you people please quit scaring me for life. I logged on here to talk about how much I hate Twilight and now I am being forced to think of things no one should ever think about.
so you didn't want to imagine being married to edward cullen AND bella?
Quote from: Thrifty on September 18, 2009, 10:55:54 AM
A buddy of mine wrote a Digimon porn-fic on a dare, about 8 years ago. It's burned in my brain forever. I could probably find it if you're curious.
Uh....thanks, but no thanks. The G1 Transformers porn fiction I'd read in the past was enough to traumatize me.
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Anyone looking for bad fanfiction should look up the works of Peter Guerin. His Daria crossover fics are the stuff of legend.
This (http://home.netcom.com/~mblackwl/retart-r.txt) is one of his worst, in which Daria helps a kid with ADD become class president, and eventually has badly written sex with him.
Quote from: Toby Danger on September 19, 2009, 01:27:05 PM
...and eventually has badly written sex with him.
IKEA sex is some of the most entertaining to read (insert peg A into hole B).
I had a bunch of teenage girls come into my work today (I work at a card store). As soon as they saw that we had Twilight cards they lost it. All I could do was stand there and think about how those girls were being set up for disappointment later in life.
And God forbid I say I don't care for the books when asked. Quoth one girl, "Then Edward will just come here and suck out your blood!"
I literally had no response to that, in case they were all mentally unstable.
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Quote from: Toby Danger on September 19, 2009, 01:27:05 PM
...and eventually has badly written sex with him.
IKEA sex is some of the most entertaining to read (insert peg A into hole B).
I had a bunch of teenage girls come into my work today (I work at a card store). As soon as they saw that we had Twilight cards they lost it. All I could do was stand there and think about how those girls were being set up for disappointment later in life.
And God forbid I say I don't care for the books when asked. Quoth one girl, "Then Edward will just come here and suck out your blood!"
I literally had no response to that, in case they were all mentally unstable.
Don't know which is more disturbing.
That or your avatar. ;)
Hey there's nothing wrong with a quivering pie.
So I saw the two pack of Twilight inaction figures yesterday in Borders. Damn that girl needs a string on her back you can pull to hear her groan "Braaaains"
Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on September 20, 2009, 05:00:04 AM
Hey there's nothing wrong with a quivering pie.
Oh....you. ;)
QuoteSo I saw the two pack of Twilight inaction figures yesterday in Borders. Damn that girl needs a string on her back you can pull to hear her groan "Braaaains"
Probably more life-like than the real thing.
does the bella inaction figure have a knob to make her blink 400 times a second? Does she say "I...uh--NO--n--n--NO--NO--what di--NO!"
Not sure, the Edward Inaction Figure comes with Douchetastic Sunglasses Funtm accessory.
I think the best part of all this Twilight hating is that the two main stars, Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart are actually on our side about this whole thing. They only signed up for the money and can't stand the book's popularity or the fans. Pattinson has actually inserted thinly veiled insults to the fans during his interviews, which is why I actually still respect this guy despite playing such a stupid role.
I watched Twilight for the fifth time on Saturday, after reauthoring the newest Twilight iRiff by The Angry Gibbons. I don't like this movie, but I don't hate it, especially not with near the animosity of a lot of some people. I think it's just because the Twilight series is just a cliche. I mean, brooding angst, seduction, attraction to Edward's bad boy nature, attraction to vampires in general? It's all been done before. It never did more than slightly annoy me in the past, it won't now.
I guess if I were completely inundated with Twilight exposure, I'd feel differently. I look at it as another boring movie that some people don't like. No.. it's the bad movies that everyone insists are awesome tremendous movies that bug me the most. A bad movie that everyone insists is great--a thing I like to call "Lisa-ing a movie"--that gets my goat.
I really think the only correct way to like Twilight is in the ironic sense. Ninety-nine percent of the series is poorly recycled material, afterall. I could understand genuine interest if there was anything unique or original about it. As such, I agree with most in that the series itself doesn't bug me so much as the rapid fans who really think it's good and has a place amongst better written vampire lore. I keep suspecting they may be the butt of some massive, marketing joke and anyone who likes it ironically gets it.
Quote from: Trumpysgirl on September 21, 2009, 06:25:23 AM
I think the best part of all this Twilight hating is that the two main stars, Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart are actually on our side about this whole thing. They only signed up for the money and can't stand the book's popularity or the fans. Pattinson has actually inserted thinly veiled insults to the fans during his interviews, which is why I actually still respect this guy despite playing such a stupid role.
This is true, and it does make it tough to hate the guy. Especially in the interviews where there's nothing hidden about it, and he just comes out and insults the character and series.
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Was that the same girl that you put a pic up where she's all glossy looking?
The only thing that might be good about this movie is that the soundtrack looks pretty amazing:
Twilight: New Moon Soundtrack:
01 Death Cab for Cutie: "Meet Me on the Equinox"
02 Band of Skulls: "Friends"
03 Thom Yorke: "Hearing Damage"
04 Lykke Li: "Possibility"
05 The Killers: "A White Demon Love Song"
06 Anya Marina: "Satellite Heart"
07 Muse: "I Belong to You (New Moon Remix)"
08 Bon Iver and St. Vincent: "Rosyln"
09 Black Rebel Motorcycle Club: "Done All Wrong"
10 Hurricane Bells: "Monsters"
11 Sea Wolf: "The Violet Hour"
12 OK Go: "Shooting the Moon"
13 Grizzly Bear: "Slow Life"
14 Editors: "No Sound But the Wind"
15 Alexandre Desplat: "New Moon (The Meadow)"
Hey iv3rd, are you going to come see it w/ me on opening weekend??? We'll go have a couple of beers beforehand!
:D
Only if I'm able to oogle at Ashley Greene while paying no attention to the movie.
Sold!
Obviously, I'll be doing that, too...iv3rd.
Twilight... exactly what happens when Hollywood wants to please every teenage girl and goth kid stereotype demographic across the world. Sigh... I hate you Hollywood... I really really do. :)
Quote from: Thrifty on September 21, 2009, 08:47:23 AM
I watched Twilight for the fifth time on Saturday, after reauthoring the newest Twilight iRiff by The Angry Gibbons. I don't like this movie, but I don't hate it, especially not with near the animosity of a lot of some people. I think it's just because the Twilight series is just a cliche. I mean, brooding angst, seduction, attraction to Edward's bad boy nature, attraction to vampires in general? It's all been done before. It never did more than slightly annoy me in the past, it won't now.
I guess if I were completely inundated with Twilight exposure, I'd feel differently. I look at it as another boring movie that some people don't like.
This sums up my feelings pretty well
Quote from: ScottH on September 21, 2009, 08:04:55 PM
Quote from: Thrifty on September 21, 2009, 08:47:23 AM
I watched Twilight for the fifth time on Saturday, after reauthoring the newest Twilight iRiff by The Angry Gibbons. I don't like this movie, but I don't hate it, especially not with near the animosity of a lot of some people. I think it's just because the Twilight series is just a cliche. I mean, brooding angst, seduction, attraction to Edward's bad boy nature, attraction to vampires in general? It's all been done before. It never did more than slightly annoy me in the past, it won't now.
I guess if I were completely inundated with Twilight exposure, I'd feel differently. I look at it as another boring movie that some people don't like.
This sums up my feelings pretty well
Indeed. I couldn't care less about this lame-ass franchise. I'm just thankful for the many riffs it is sure to provide over the years.
Quote from: iv3rdawG on September 21, 2009, 12:49:20 PM
The only thing that might be good about this movie is that the soundtrack looks pretty amazing:
Twilight: New Moon Soundtrack:
01 Death Cab for Cutie: "Meet Me on the Equinox"
02 Band of Skulls: "Friends"
03 Thom Yorke: "Hearing Damage"
04 Lykke Li: "Possibility"
05 The Killers: "A White Demon Love Song"
06 Anya Marina: "Satellite Heart"
07 Muse: "I Belong to You (New Moon Remix)"
08 Bon Iver and St. Vincent: "Rosyln"
09 Black Rebel Motorcycle Club: "Done All Wrong"
10 Hurricane Bells: "Monsters"
11 Sea Wolf: "The Violet Hour"
12 OK Go: "Shooting the Moon"
13 Grizzly Bear: "Slow Life"
14 Editors: "No Sound But the Wind"
15 Alexandre Desplat: "New Moon (The Meadow)"
No MuteMath this time? Bummer.
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Quote from: ScottH on September 21, 2009, 08:04:55 PM
Quote from: Thrifty on September 21, 2009, 08:47:23 AM
I watched Twilight for the fifth time on Saturday, after reauthoring the newest Twilight iRiff by The Angry Gibbons. I don't like this movie, but I don't hate it, especially not with near the animosity of a lot of some people. I think it's just because the Twilight series is just a cliche. I mean, brooding angst, seduction, attraction to Edward's bad boy nature, attraction to vampires in general? It's all been done before. It never did more than slightly annoy me in the past, it won't now.
I guess if I were completely inundated with Twilight exposure, I'd feel differently. I look at it as another boring movie that some people don't like.
This sums up my feelings pretty well
Indeed. I couldn't care less about this lame-ass franchise. I'm just thankful for the many riffs it is sure to provide over the years.
Right-on, lots of people are too Edna. Wanting to be personally offended by broad social trends
Quote from: Trumpysgirl on September 21, 2009, 06:25:23 AM
I think the best part of all this Twilight hating is that the two main stars, Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart are actually on our side about this whole thing. They only signed up for the money and can't stand the book's popularity or the fans. Pattinson has actually inserted thinly veiled insults to the fans during his interviews, which is why I actually still respect this guy despite playing such a stupid role.
Kristen Stewart was actually really good in Adventureland, too.
Quote from: D.B. Barnes on September 21, 2009, 08:07:02 PM
Quote from: ScottH on September 21, 2009, 08:04:55 PM
Quote from: Thrifty on September 21, 2009, 08:47:23 AM
I watched Twilight for the fifth time on Saturday, after reauthoring the newest Twilight iRiff by The Angry Gibbons. I don't like this movie, but I don't hate it, especially not with near the animosity of a lot of some people. I think it's just because the Twilight series is just a cliche. I mean, brooding angst, seduction, attraction to Edward's bad boy nature, attraction to vampires in general? It's all been done before. It never did more than slightly annoy me in the past, it won't now.
I guess if I were completely inundated with Twilight exposure, I'd feel differently. I look at it as another boring movie that some people don't like.
This sums up my feelings pretty well
Indeed. I couldn't care less about this lame-ass franchise. I'm just thankful for the many riffs it is sure to provide over the years.
I think that, at this point, every iRiffing group is obliged to provide a TwiRiff.
News of this movie makes me want to go down to my local Wal-mart, get in line behind several teenage girls, pretend to answer my phone and say things out loud like "Hey, did you hear Robert Pattinson died today?"
So, my wife told me yesterday that her friend invited her to go see New Moon on the day that it comes out. Should I be ashamed that I feel left out? I hate to say it, but I'm excited to see this.....yes, it may be for reasons that the filmmaker didn't intend, but I still want to see it.
Quote from: kete00 on September 24, 2009, 03:16:31 PM
So, my wife told me yesterday that her friend invited her to go see New Moon on the day that it comes out. Should I be ashamed that I feel left out? I hate to say it, but I'm excited to see this.....yes, it may be for reasons that the filmmaker didn't intend, but I still want to see it.
If I actually waste $9.00 to go see it, it will be for these reasons and these reasons only:
Michael Sheen
Potential Rifftrax moments
Dakota Fanning in her natural state.
I fear I may see it, just so I can continue to mock them and be right to do so. However, if I do, I'll do it the same way I saw the last one; pay for a better movie, see that first, and then sneak into it (first Twilight and Disaster Movie are the only movies I've ever snuck into, just for that purpose).
The Twilight series reminds me a lot of the Pirates of the Caribbean series. I remember for a few years, Johnny Depp's hideous Jack Sparrow mug was everywhere. Posters, Internet forum avatars, cereal boxes, video games, TV commercials.. everywhere. It would arise for months when the movie hit the theaters, briefly disappear, then surge back at the DVD release. Disappear for a few more months, then a new movie comes out, and it starts all over again.
So I can definitely understand having a lot of animosity toward Twilight.
Quote from: kete00 on September 24, 2009, 03:16:31 PM
So, my wife told me yesterday that her friend invited her to go see New Moon on the day that it comes out. Should I be ashamed that I feel left out? I hate to say it, but I'm excited to see this.....yes, it may be for reasons that the filmmaker didn't intend, but I still want to see it.
Be ashamed? No way. I'd feel left out, too, as I'm pretty jazzed on seeing this in November. Although, I'm sure I'll be blushing when I'll request my ticket for it!
Oh, Porkins took the "Which Twilight Character Are You?" over at Facebook and ta-da:
You are Alice, the future-seeing vampire. You love to dance, decorate, and shop. Fashion is your passion, and you especially like dressing up your friend...s. Though you are delicate, your are fierce when you need to be and always ready to stand up for your friends. You tend to be a little fatalistic and bossy..So who's gonna be my Jasper??? :)
Quote from: Thrifty on September 27, 2009, 06:41:30 AM
The Twilight series reminds me a lot of the Pirates of the Caribbean series.
It reminds me of Harry Potter, a series of movies I'm not really interested in based on books I haven't read that a lot of people under 20 seem REALLY into.
You know, like some of you said earlier I didn't find the movie to be as bad as I thought it was going to be. But I really cant find myself going to see the new one in November, even if I "might" want to see what happens ;)
Um....I'm confused....
I thought
Twlight was for brain-damaged "tweet" girls and that Spike TV was a network for men with extra chromosomes....
QuoteSpike TV jumps on the 'Twilight' and 'True Blood' bandwagon for SCREAM 2009
Let's be honest, if hardcore horror fans turn their noses up at anything it's "The Twilight Saga," but Spike TV is jumping on the phenomenon by making "New Moon" a centerpiece of "SCREAM 2009."
The network announced today that the pseudo awards show will feature cast members from "New Moon" as well as the debut of new footage from what is expected to be one of November's biggest releases. Who will appear from the cast is unclear, but it would be surprising for Summit to drag Kristen Stewart or Robert Pattinson from Vancouver for the event while they are still shooting "The Twilight Saga: Eclipse." Our guess? "New Moon" vampire and "Underworld" franchise star Michael Sheen or the members of the Wolfpack (with shirts on for this crowd).
http://www.hitfix.com/articles/2009-10-5-spike-tv-jumps-on-the-twilight-and-true-blood-bandwagon-for-screamfest-09 (http://www.hitfix.com/articles/2009-10-5-spike-tv-jumps-on-the-twilight-and-true-blood-bandwagon-for-screamfest-09)
Sooooooo.....great. They get the little girls to tune in long enough to watch the
Twilight 2 stuff...then they'll take one look at the rest of the network, go "Ewww!" and never tune in again. And the guys will probably zone out the minute the thing is mentioned....
Who wins?
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on October 05, 2009, 02:58:49 PM
Um....I'm confused....
I thought Twlight was for brain-damaged "tweet" girls and that Spike TV was a network for men with extra chromosomes....
QuoteSpike TV jumps on the 'Twilight' and 'True Blood' bandwagon for SCREAM 2009
Let's be honest, if hardcore horror fans turn their noses up at anything it's "The Twilight Saga," but Spike TV is jumping on the phenomenon by making "New Moon" a centerpiece of "SCREAM 2009."
The network announced today that the pseudo awards show will feature cast members from "New Moon" as well as the debut of new footage from what is expected to be one of November's biggest releases. Who will appear from the cast is unclear, but it would be surprising for Summit to drag Kristen Stewart or Robert Pattinson from Vancouver for the event while they are still shooting "The Twilight Saga: Eclipse." Our guess? "New Moon" vampire and "Underworld" franchise star Michael Sheen or the members of the Wolfpack (with shirts on for this crowd).
http://www.hitfix.com/articles/2009-10-5-spike-tv-jumps-on-the-twilight-and-true-blood-bandwagon-for-screamfest-09 (http://www.hitfix.com/articles/2009-10-5-spike-tv-jumps-on-the-twilight-and-true-blood-bandwagon-for-screamfest-09)
Sooooooo.....great. They get the little girls to tune in long enough to watch the Twilight 2 stuff...then they'll take one look at the rest of the network, go "Ewww!" and never tune in again. And the guys will probably zone out the minute the thing is mentioned....
Who wins?
Yeah, that is a headscratcher alright????????
Oh those young people, with thier cordless phones, HD television and reading. Hurruph I say! hurruph!
Quote from: ScottH on October 05, 2009, 04:06:48 PM
Oh those young people, with thier cordless phones, HD television and reading. Hurruph I say! hurruph!
y'know I hear the cordless phones play the music nowadays
Quote from: esoobaC .T bocaJ on October 05, 2009, 04:26:18 PM
Quote from: ScottH on October 05, 2009, 04:06:48 PM
Oh those young people, with thier cordless phones, HD television and reading. Hurruph I say! hurruph!
y'know I hear the cordless phones play the music nowadays
How did that turn into simply an age thing (other than ScottH being involved, that is)?
It would be the same thing if Spike started showing "Sex and the City". The point is it's a "girly" thing on a "titties and beer" network. How is there any hope for "crossover" there?
Quote from: esoobaC .T bocaJ on October 05, 2009, 04:26:18 PM
Quote from: ScottH on October 05, 2009, 04:06:48 PM
Oh those young people, with thier cordless phones, HD television and reading. Hurruph I say! hurruph!
y'know I hear the cordless phones play the music nowadays
It's the devil's work I tells ya!
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on October 05, 2009, 10:33:00 PM
How did that turn into simply an age thing (other than ScottH being involved, that is)?
It was mostly this:
QuoteI thought Twlight was for brain-damaged "tweet" girls
Quote from: ScottH on October 05, 2009, 10:42:15 PM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on October 05, 2009, 10:33:00 PM
How did that turn into simply an age thing (other than ScottH being involved, that is)?
It was mostly this: QuoteI thought Twlight was for brain-damaged "tweet" girls
And you take issue with that statement? Would it also make me an "old fart" to think that the "Baby Sitters Club" books were meant for young girls?
As for the "brain-damaged" part.....you have at least seen the movie, right?
I have, I took my young cousin.
Funny you should specifically mention who "The Baby Sitters Club" is meant for because the target audience of Twighlight is exactly my point. Neither the books nor the series are aimed at a majority of the members of the board and yet people chose to be outraged and disgusted by their existance, which reminds me of a cranky old person calling into talkback radio to complain about "the young people" (although I accept talkback radio isn't intended for me either but my comments are meant in parody)
QuoteAnd you take issue with that statement? Would it also make me an "old fart" to think that the "Baby Sitters Club" books were meant for young girls?
I don't think this specifically makes you "an old" fart, I think it's more needlessly rude and arrogant. However given you finding fault in pop-culture is as well known as my arguing against that behaviour I should have known we'd enter the same circular argument before I even posted.
Quote from: ScottH on October 05, 2009, 11:04:29 PM
I have, I took my young cousin.
Funny you should specifically mention who "The Baby Sitters Club" is meant for because the target audience of Twighlight is exactly my point. Neither the books nor the series are aimed at a majority of the members of the board and yet people chose to be outraged and disgusted by their existance, which reminds me of a cranky old person calling into talkback radio to complain about "the young people" (although I accept talkback radio isn't intended for me either but my comments are meant in parody)
QuoteAnd you take issue with that statement? Would it also make me an "old fart" to think that the "Baby Sitters Club" books were meant for young girls?
I don't think this specifically makes you "an old" fart, I think it's more needlessly rude and arrogant. However given you finding fault in pop-culture is as well known as my arguing against that behaviour I should have known we'd enter the same circular argument before I even posted.
Yeah, like the Rifftrax of
Twilight never brings up the problems with the same aspects of the books and the movies - everything from Meyers "re-inventing" vampire lore to the bad writing ("I was really afraid they'd lose all the "Okays" from the book....") to passing off the clingy, destructive relationship of Bella and Edward as love ("So, his murders aren't a problem . . .?", "She loves him for him not killing her, that's healthy").
Or do you consider Mike, Kevin and Bill needlessly arrogant "Old Farts" with a problem with pop-culture as well?
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on October 05, 2009, 11:30:19 PM
Or do you consider Mike, Kevin and Bill needlessly arrogant "Old Farts" with a problem with pop-culture as well?
Occasionally yes, which I've said before. Although I'm unsure how what 3 other people think is relevant to this conversation, unless you decided on your stance based on what they think.
Quote from: ScottH on October 06, 2009, 12:06:59 AM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on October 05, 2009, 11:30:19 PM
Or do you consider Mike, Kevin and Bill needlessly arrogant "Old Farts" with a problem with pop-culture as well?
Occasionally yes, which I've said before. Although I'm unsure how what 3 other people think is relevant to this conversation, unless you decided on your stance based on what they think.
Their opinion is relevant because - since you don't agree with their attitude and jokes about pop culture - I'm wondering what your attraction to Rifftrax is then.
Or do you get the commentaries to make fun of the guys to yourself?
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on October 06, 2009, 12:17:41 AM
Quote from: ScottH on October 06, 2009, 12:06:59 AM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on October 05, 2009, 11:30:19 PM
Or do you consider Mike, Kevin and Bill needlessly arrogant "Old Farts" with a problem with pop-culture as well?
Occasionally yes, which I've said before. Although I'm unsure how what 3 other people think is relevant to this conversation, unless you decided on your stance based on what they think.
Their opinion is relevant because - since you don't agree with their attitude and jokes about pop culture - I'm wondering what your attraction to Rifftrax is then.
Or do you get the commentaries to make fun of the guys to yourself?
Again, I'm not clear on how differences of opinion between Mike, Bill, Kevin and myself is related to your opinion but I'll address your points, strange as they are.
You'll notice I said 'occasionally', I've either not purchased or not finished Cloverfield, Halloween, The Phantom Menace, etc because of the relentlessly negative attitude (which I probably have mentioned on the threads for those riffs). Much like I do with the books, movies and pop-culture in general I chose the riffs I think I'll enjoy and don't dwell on the ones that don't appeal to me.
No, I don't purchase riffs to make fun of them although that's quite a meta idea. Maybe there's an iRiff market for that, dumb riffs of clever movies (Obvious Science Theater?)
Quote from: ScottH on October 06, 2009, 12:42:21 AM
You'll notice I said 'occasionally', I've either not purchased or not finished Cloverfield, Halloween, The Phantom Menace, etc because of the relentlessly negative attitude (which I probably have mentioned on the threads for those riffs)
Yes, but there are plenty of "cross over" riffs....."Where's the Cloverfield monster when you need it?", "No, Ana-kin - don't mix it with sand or it will explode", etc. - that don't pertain to that title being Rifftrax that might offend you.
Maybe you should avoid this altogether.
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on October 06, 2009, 01:07:23 AM
Quote from: ScottH on October 06, 2009, 12:42:21 AM
You'll notice I said 'occasionally', I've either not purchased or not finished Cloverfield, Halloween, The Phantom Menace, etc because of the relentlessly negative attitude (which I probably have mentioned on the threads for those riffs)
Yes, but there are plenty of "cross over" riffs....."Where's the Cloverfield monster when you need it?", "No, Ana-kin - don't mix it with sand or it will explode", etc. - that don't pertain to that title being Rifftrax that might offend you.
Maybe you should avoid this altogether.
Avoid what? You keep going back to the riffers thoughts as though that's who I was addressing and making less sense each time.
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on October 05, 2009, 10:33:00 PM
Quote from: esoobaC .T bocaJ on October 05, 2009, 04:26:18 PM
Quote from: ScottH on October 05, 2009, 04:06:48 PM
Oh those young people, with thier cordless phones, HD television and reading. Hurruph I say! hurruph!
y'know I hear the cordless phones play the music nowadays
How did that turn into simply an age thing (other than ScottH being involved, that is)?
It would be the same thing if Spike started showing "Sex and the City". The point is it's a "girly" thing on a "titties and beer" network. How is there any hope for "crossover" there?
I was just making a joke, but yeah a channel touted as being a "network for men" shouldn't really be attempting to show things related to a film series targeted at teenage girls
Here's a headscratcher. Just who in the marketing department put this:
Spoiler
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Next to this:
Spoiler
(https://forum.rifftrax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F_pcpKTz-zGok%2FSgTV617SoUI%2FAAAAAAAAEug%2FPIRBGay3W_c%2Fs320%2FNew_Moon_Jacob_2_by_Grodansnagel.jpg&hash=214fdd29fee9d27b217251823f7cea48cb39c805)
And thought that girls would be swooning over the first one? Poor Bob looks like Tara Reed.
Quote from: Trumpysgirl on October 06, 2009, 07:10:03 AM
Poor Bob looks like Tara Reed.
Aww that's unfair, his nipples don't look quite so much like jumbo pepperonis.
Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on October 06, 2009, 07:11:14 AM
Quote from: Trumpysgirl on October 06, 2009, 07:10:03 AM
Poor Bob looks like Tara Reed.
Aww that's unfair, his nipples don't look quite so much like jumbo pepperonis.
His pic also look just unflattering enough that you don't think "photoshop"......like the other one almost screams....so what might look good to someone would be real.
for those of you excited about the new Forks, Washington Documentary, here's another one
QuoteWe previously told you about the "Twilight in Forks: The Saga of the Real Town" documentary, which features interviews with the real people of Forks, Washington, the town that serves as the primary setting for the popular "Twilight" books and films.
Now comes news that UK distributor Revolver has bought the rights to "Rob-sessed," a feature length documentary about the "Twilight" star Robert Pattinson.
The new film takes a look at the teenage phenomenon known as being "Rob-sessed" and Pattinson's rise to one of the most sought-after young actors. "Teenagers just can't get enough of Robert Pattinson and this broadcast quality biography is guaranteed to deliver whether on TV or home entertainment," said Revolver executive Justin Marciano.
Revolver is planning to release the documentary on DVD in the US and the UK in November to coincide with the theatrical release of "Twilight Saga: New Moon," the second film in the franchise.
http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=15326&count=0
Finally watched the riff of the Twilight last night.
The riff was very good.
The movie was very... I won't say bad, because I think it nailed everything it was trying to do right on the mark. It was very very movie.
- Moody, weird stuttering girl? Yeah, I bought that act.
- Empty hummingbird high school cutouts? Yeah, I believed those.
- Gay/safe protector who will never ever try to get to second base? If such exist, yeah, I guess I bought that too. Angry little cuss, though.
- Hot/friendly vampire family which doesn't eat food and doesn't have guests over but has a full gourmet industrial kitchen? Sure, why not?
- Movie/book not aimed at me and doing quite well with its demographic? Fine, all right.
Thing is, I hate vampire fiction. I'm a pretty black & white guy, so anything other than "look, it's a monster, stake it!" leaves me shaking my head. King's Salem's Lot was okay, but I only read it because my GF at the time wanted me to. I was 20 pages into Brust's Agyar before I realized it was a vampire book, but I'd read something Brust wrote if he tattooed it on his sack, so that's not a fair comparison.
So do I want to have anything more to do with Twilight or its book or movie franchises? Hell no, except for riffing, But I sure wish I could write MY dreams down and get a jillion dollars for it. You go, Ms. Hacky McDrivelette!
-dale
Man, I remember five or six years ago when pirates were mega-popular. Now it's vampires.
I wonder which fictional archetype will be obsessed over next.
I hope it's strolling minstrels.
Satyrs would be fun though.
How about consulting detectives (http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php/topic,15418.msg470852.html#msg470852) ;)
Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on October 06, 2009, 07:32:49 PM
I hope it's strolling minstrels.
Satyrs would be fun though.
How about consulting detectives (http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php/topic,15418.msg470852.html#msg470852) ;)
Silly boy, I've posted. ;D
30 second samples up for every song on the soundtrack:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002S27W6I/ref=dm_sp_alb/279-4202610-8895469
Soundtrack is going to be really good.
Quote from: iv3rdawG on October 09, 2009, 12:14:03 PM
30 second samples up for every song on the soundtrack:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002S27W6I/ref=dm_sp_alb/279-4202610-8895469
Soundtrack is going to be really good.
It makes me hate the movie even more. If you're going to unleash a crappy movie, you should have the soundtrack to match it, dammit!
Quote from: Trumpysgirl on October 09, 2009, 02:06:40 PM
Quote from: iv3rdawG on October 09, 2009, 12:14:03 PM
30 second samples up for every song on the soundtrack:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002S27W6I/ref=dm_sp_alb/279-4202610-8895469
Soundtrack is going to be really good.
It makes me hate the movie even more. If you're going to unleash a crappy movie, you should have the soundtrack to match it, dammit!
Question is do the rabid "Twilight" fans have the taste to appreciate this music?
Of course not, because taste does not exist in people who like things you don't.
OH SNAP!
Sorry...I keep forgetting.
There is nothing in the world that sucks - not a Uwe Boll movie, not an exploitative reality show, not a Vanilla Ice record, not an air-headed teen flick that claims that unhealthy obsession equals love, nothing at all - as long as someone out there likes it.
::)
essentially that is correct
By jove I think she's got it!
This seems the perfect place for Sturgeon's Revelation (often called 'Sturgeon's Law'):
"90% of everything is crud."
The fact is: EVERYONE disagrees on what, exactly, the 10% that is worthwhile is. That's probably why there can be 6 billion + people on the planet* and a wide variety of things to choose from for our entertainment.
Personally I'm completely indifferent to the movie/book/phenomena that is Twilight. But I think it is one of the 5 funniest RiffTrax, so I look forward to more.
*because seriously: would you choose to mate with 9 out of every 10 of the people you see? Yet somehow most of them seem to produce offspring (many of them multiple times), because SOMEone found them attractive.
Quote from: Sideswipe on October 09, 2009, 09:48:59 PM
essentially that is correct
Quote from: ScottH on October 10, 2009, 01:02:19 AM
By jove I think she's got it!
So a lot of threads on this forum better start disappearing ("Commercials We Hate", "Glen Beck is a Nutjob" just for example)...
No, not liking something is completely different from dismssing it as worthless
In this specific case, not liking something is different than declaring someone too stupid to appreciate your own taste because they like something you don't.
Come join the Scoobies, Alice....they're so much cooler!
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Awwww, don't give me that look, they need to assemble all of the help they can in Tibet right now!!
They have a triune pre-Buddhist goddess, what more do you want?
What more do I want? An Alice Cullen 101-mph fastball. ;)
Secondly, Twilight's so gonna take down the Goddesses in #30.
For some reason I feel as if I should be watching the first one again since the second one is out on Friday, even though I will most likely not be seeing it..at least in theaters. Sigh..
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Question: why do they all have albino ferret eyes in this one, but not the last one?
Alright.
Discounted Edward cutout from FYE? Check.
Lighter? Check.
Theater lobby with a giant glass wall facing the parking lot? Check.
Not entirely necessary, but probably good to have getaway car? Check.
I really hope I'm not torn to pieces, but Left 4 Dead 2 has been good training so far. ;D
Quote from: CrowTeeRobot on November 18, 2009, 09:57:28 AM
Alright.
Discounted Edward cutout from FYE? Check.
Lighter? Check.
Theater lobby with a giant glass wall facing the parking lot? Check.
Not entirely necessary, but probably good to have getaway car? Check.
I really hope I'm not torn to pieces, but Left 4 Dead 2 has been good training so far. ;D
Please tell me you have someone taking video of this.
Quote from: iv3rdawG on November 17, 2009, 06:26:40 PM
Sigh..
(https://forum.rifftrax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg21.imageshack.us%2Fimg21%2F9241%2Fnormal0031i.jpg&hash=5706657ede96dafd7f221a2da10f46418028b9d8)
*sighs*
I'll be at the theater sometime this weekend living vicariously through Jasper. ;)
Quote from: MSTJedi on November 18, 2009, 10:06:24 AM
Quote from: CrowTeeRobot on November 18, 2009, 09:57:28 AM
Alright.
Discounted Edward cutout from FYE? Check.
Lighter? Check.
Theater lobby with a giant glass wall facing the parking lot? Check.
Not entirely necessary, but probably good to have getaway car? Check.
I really hope I'm not torn to pieces, but Left 4 Dead 2 has been good training so far. ;D
Please tell me you have someone taking video of this.
Agreed! If you can provide visual proof of this and you will be my hero.
Hmm,
Rob and I have conferred, and it would seem that mutilation would be much less likely for me to end up in prison.
So a beheading by the William Wallace sword appears to be the way to go.
Feel free to offer suggestions on how to besmirch this god awful likeness I was unfortunate enough to come across.
But I can promise video.
Quote from: MSTJedi on November 18, 2009, 10:06:24 AM
Quote from: CrowTeeRobot on November 18, 2009, 09:57:28 AM
Alright.
Discounted Edward cutout from FYE? Check.
Lighter? Check.
Theater lobby with a giant glass wall facing the parking lot? Check.
Not entirely necessary, but probably good to have getaway car? Check.
I really hope I'm not torn to pieces, but Left 4 Dead 2 has been good training so far. ;D
Please tell me you have someone taking video of this.
There's always the video from the news coverage... ;)
QuoteNew Moon Boasts Over 2,000 Sell-outs Three Days Before Release
The New Moon phenomenon is growing from strength to strength - 2,150 screenings of the Twilight sequel have already sold out.
The film opens at midnight on Thursday at select cinemas and film fans are already buying up pre-release tickets by the coffin-load.
Website MovieTickets.com is reporting over 200 sell-outs in Los Angeles and New York alone, and the sequel leads all ticket sales online.
A spokesman for MovieTickets.com tells WENN, "It's accounting for 90 per cent of all ticket sales."
The film is expected to topple 2012 as the world's number one movie this coming weekend.
Ok I've only seen previews but apparently:
- Werewolves turn from men into full on wolves (bad CGI ones to boot)
- Werewolves turn at will at all times of the day or night
- Vampires walk in daylight just fine
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 18, 2009, 10:41:28 AM
QuoteNew Moon Boasts Over 2,000 Sell-outs Three Days Before Release
The New Moon phenomenon is growing from strength to strength - 2,150 screenings of the Twilight sequel have already sold out.
The film opens at midnight on Thursday at select cinemas and film fans are already buying up pre-release tickets by the coffin-load.
Website MovieTickets.com is reporting over 200 sell-outs in Los Angeles and New York alone, and the sequel leads all ticket sales online.
A spokesman for MovieTickets.com tells WENN, "It's accounting for 90 per cent of all ticket sales."
The film is expected to topple 2012 as the world's number one movie this coming weekend.
That's awesome! Go Twilight!!
Uh boy.. Here's 'Hanna Montana's take on these.. ::)
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/0XnkIKTUaxQ
Conan was excellent on Monday. Lots of Twilight stuff and Kristen Stewart. She seemed really nervous but was pretty engaging. Plus, these guys:
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QuotePattinson fan hospitalised
Wed 18 Nov 9:38 AM
A Twilight fan was hospitalised after getting into a fight with another girl over a Robert Pattinson poster.
The unnamed girl was one of the lucky three hundred girls who won a competition to attend the premiere of the Pattinson DVD Robsessed at London's Prince Charles Cinema. However, a fight broke out over the last few remaining posters at the event.
Eyewitness Precious Acabousi said, "There was a lot of pushing and shoving, everyone was crowding around them.
"I heard gasps as one of the girls fell on the floor, she was in terrible pain and had twisted her arm - she was screaming for help.
"The poster had been ripped in two."
A spokesperson for the DVD, added, "We had plenty of posters printed, but obviously some people picked up more than others, and so the fight broke out."
The injured fan was taken to hospital and missed the screening of the documentary.
They're gushing all over the movie, btw. (http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/blog/article/8569/new-moonfirst-review.html)
Yesterday was awesome. Our final assignment in my writing class is to pick a Sci-Fi short story or novel and write a guide on it. We'd been emailing our instructor with our choices. Yesterday he put his head in his hands and told the class that he was not going to allow papers on Twilight because it's not generally considered Sci-Fi. I laughed before I could stop myself and got a few dirty glances in my direction. :D
Quote from: Tyrant on November 18, 2009, 01:13:35 PM
Yesterday was awesome. Our final assignment in my writing class is to pick a Sci-Fi short story or novel and write a guide on it. We'd been emailing our instructor with our choices. Yesterday he put his head in his hands and told the class that he was not going to allow papers on Twilight because it's not generally considered Sci-Fi. I laughed before I could stop myself and got a few dirty glances in my direction. :D
All those people who wanted to do Twilight will be writing sci-fi for the networks someday.
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BTW....it's cold and rainy in Forks....but you have to have a cooling fan on in a classroom? ???
Man, this series of movies is going to keep us fat in Rifftrax for years to come!
:clap:
Come on stupid lady, write more crap books.
Quote from: Bob on November 18, 2009, 05:15:15 PM
Man, this series of movies is going to keep us fat in Rifftrax for years to come!
:clap:
Come on stupid lady, write more crap books.
I can be stupid and write crap books....can I try?
This is to hold us over until Friday. Maybe the best ending to a scene ever?
Come on Bella, just take the picture.
QuoteHackers exploit release of Twilight New Moon film
Hoax interview designed to infect PCs with malware
by Carrie-Ann Skinner
Hackers are exploiting the web users searching for information about the Twilight New Moon film, due to be released this week, in a bid to spread malware, says PC Tools.
According to the security firm, malicious websites that claim to feature interviews with the author of the books, Stephanie Meyer, are ranking high in a number of search engines.
If a user clicks on the malicious links, instead of seeing a video clip of Meyer they will be directed to a window informing them they are infected with malware and then encouraged to download an antivirus solution to clean their PC.
However, PC Tools has warned that the antivirus solution is fake, also known as scareware, and has been created by cybercriminals to fool web users into parting with their hard-earned cash.
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Quote from: iv3rdawG on November 18, 2009, 05:30:12 PM
This is to hold us over until Friday. Maybe the best ending to a scene ever?
Come on Bella, just take the picture.
...hahahahahahaha!
This is gonna be a blast!!
Quote from: iv3rdawG on November 18, 2009, 05:30:12 PM
This is to hold us over until Friday. Maybe the best ending to a scene ever?
Further proof that Bella is a total moron. You cut your finger in a room full of vampires and you think
it's no big deal???
Quote from: iv3rdawG on November 18, 2009, 05:30:12 PM
This is to hold us over until Friday. Maybe the best ending to a scene ever?
Come on Bella, just take the picture.
Oh my god, this is ju-ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 18, 2009, 12:46:56 PM
Found this on Yahoo Movies:
QuotePattinson fan hospitalised
Wed 18 Nov 9:38 AM
A Twilight fan was hospitalised after getting into a fight with another girl over a Robert Pattinson poster.
The unnamed girl was one of the lucky three hundred girls who won a competition to attend the premiere of the Pattinson DVD Robsessed at London's Prince Charles Cinema. However, a fight broke out over the last few remaining posters at the event.
Eyewitness Precious Acabousi said, "There was a lot of pushing and shoving, everyone was crowding around them.
"I heard gasps as one of the girls fell on the floor, she was in terrible pain and had twisted her arm - she was screaming for help.
"The poster had been ripped in two."
A spokesperson for the DVD, added, "We had plenty of posters printed, but obviously some people picked up more than others, and so the fight broke out."
The injured fan was taken to hospital and missed the screening of the documentary.
They're gushing all over the movie, btw. (http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/blog/article/8569/new-moonfirst-review.html)
I can't help wishing all these people would kill each other off in similar events.... is that wrong?
Quote from: THE QUEEN!!! on November 19, 2009, 01:00:38 AM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 18, 2009, 12:46:56 PM
Found this on Yahoo Movies:
QuotePattinson fan hospitalised
Wed 18 Nov 9:38 AM
A Twilight fan was hospitalised after getting into a fight with another girl over a Robert Pattinson poster.
The unnamed girl was one of the lucky three hundred girls who won a competition to attend the premiere of the Pattinson DVD Robsessed at London's Prince Charles Cinema. However, a fight broke out over the last few remaining posters at the event.
Eyewitness Precious Acabousi said, "There was a lot of pushing and shoving, everyone was crowding around them.
"I heard gasps as one of the girls fell on the floor, she was in terrible pain and had twisted her arm - she was screaming for help.
"The poster had been ripped in two."
A spokesperson for the DVD, added, "We had plenty of posters printed, but obviously some people picked up more than others, and so the fight broke out."
The injured fan was taken to hospital and missed the screening of the documentary.
They're gushing all over the movie, btw. (http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/blog/article/8569/new-moonfirst-review.html)
I can't help wishing all these people would kill each other off in similar events.... is that wrong?
I'd assume Twilight fans wish the same on people who snark about Twilight, maybe you can take each other out ;)
Quote from: ScottH on November 19, 2009, 02:58:33 AM
Quote from: THE QUEEN!!! on November 19, 2009, 01:00:38 AM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 18, 2009, 12:46:56 PM
Found this on Yahoo Movies:
QuotePattinson fan hospitalised
They're gushing all over the movie, btw. (http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/blog/article/8569/new-moonfirst-review.html)
I can't help wishing all these people would kill each other off in similar events.... is that wrong?
I'd assume Twilight fans wish the same on people who snark about Twilight, maybe you can take each other out ;)
I'm game.
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Quote from: RobtheBarbärian on November 19, 2009, 03:26:41 AM
Quote from: ScottH on November 19, 2009, 02:58:33 AM
Quote from: THE QUEEN!!! on November 19, 2009, 01:00:38 AM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 18, 2009, 12:46:56 PM
Found this on Yahoo Movies:
QuotePattinson fan hospitalised
They're gushing all over the movie, btw. (http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/blog/article/8569/new-moonfirst-review.html)
I can't help wishing all these people would kill each other off in similar events.... is that wrong?
I'd assume Twilight fans wish the same on people who snark about Twilight, maybe you can take each other out ;)
I'm game.
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[montypython] .....providing they're both perfectly fit I can see nothing wrong with one healthy man beating the living daylights out of a little schoolgirl. [/montypython}
what we need is some Roman gladiator style action where they dangle a Twilight poster in the middle of an arena and let a group of Twitards battle to the death over it while we watch the carnage. Have a few Twilight dvds spread on the ground to use as weapons would be a nice touch too. That would rule.
Quote from: ScottH on November 19, 2009, 02:58:33 AM
I'd assume Twilight fans wish the same on people who snark about Twilight, maybe you can take each other out ;)
And judging by how Twilight fans conceptualize machismo, it would be a pretty short battle I think.
Quote from: iv3rdawG on November 18, 2009, 05:30:12 PM
Can Bella be any
less into her own birthday party? I'm going to pretend that whatever happens next in a room full of vampires after she cuts herself is not so much about the blood, but about her being an ungrateful witch.
Quote from: Tyrant on November 19, 2009, 11:36:04 AM
Can Bella be any less into her own birthday party? I'm going to pretend that whatever happens next in a room full of vampires after she cuts herself is not so much about the blood, but about her being an ungrateful witch.
How happy would you be with that blonde at your party? "I'm giving you this but I want to make it perfectly clear that I didn't buy it and they're practically forcing me to do it...now drop dead so I don't have to deal with you anymore."
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 19, 2009, 12:01:01 PM
Quote from: Tyrant on November 19, 2009, 11:36:04 AM
Can Bella be any less into her own birthday party? I'm going to pretend that whatever happens next in a room full of vampires after she cuts herself is not so much about the blood, but about her being an ungrateful witch.
How happy would you be with that blonde at your party? "I'm giving you this but I want to make it perfectly clear that I didn't buy it and they're practically forcing me to do it...now drop dead so I don't have to deal with you anymore."
Point. But I'd probably just ignore her and pay more attention to everyone else in the room being nice. Regardless, I'm sure however the scene ends will be hilarious. Especially if someone's face gets shoved into the cake.
Quote from: Tyrant on November 19, 2009, 12:10:56 PM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 19, 2009, 12:01:01 PM
Quote from: Tyrant on November 19, 2009, 11:36:04 AM
Can Bella be any less into her own birthday party? I'm going to pretend that whatever happens next in a room full of vampires after she cuts herself is not so much about the blood, but about her being an ungrateful witch.
How happy would you be with that blonde at your party? "I'm giving you this but I want to make it perfectly clear that I didn't buy it and they're practically forcing me to do it...now drop dead so I don't have to deal with you anymore."
Point. But I'd probably just ignore her and pay more attention to everyone else in the room being nice. Regardless, I'm sure however the scene ends will be hilarious. Especially if someone's face gets shoved into the cake.
I saw this somewhere to the end....one of the movie trailers, I think.
Harpo makes a lunge at Bella and Edward knocks him across the room...and I think Edward just takes Bella out of the house and the whole "You're not safe around me - you'll never see me again" crap starts.
(No...she's not safe around your family...and if you're going to leave, why not take her with you?)
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 19, 2009, 01:25:53 PM
Harpo makes a lunge at Bella and Edward knocks him across the room...and I think Edward just takes Bella out of the house and the whole "You're not safe around me - you'll never see me again" crap starts.
And that's when the PedoWolf starts taking off his shirt. Heheheheh
Quote from: Lovye on November 19, 2009, 02:24:10 PM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 19, 2009, 01:25:53 PM
Harpo makes a lunge at Bella and Edward knocks him across the room...and I think Edward just takes Bella out of the house and the whole "You're not safe around me - you'll never see me again" crap starts.
And that's when the PedoWolf starts taking off his shirt. Heheheheh
But first Dreadlock Vampire has to show up and threaten Bella - even though he came to warn them about James (?) the last time. Not a "good" guy anymore? ???
Guess we should just be happy there's anyone of color in something written by a Mormon.
Quote from: Sideswipe on November 19, 2009, 11:23:18 AM
what we need is some Roman gladiator style action where they dangle a Twilight poster in the middle of an arena and let a group of Twitards battle to the death over it while we watch the carnage. Have a few Twilight dvds spread on the ground to use as weapons would be a nice touch too. That would rule.
I would so pay to watch that.
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 18, 2009, 12:46:56 PM
They're gushing all over the movie, btw.
For implied sexual content:
Since most of the fans of the series are female, that's possibly not the best choice of words. ::)
Actually it's probably very apt in some cases. ;)
Hid descriptions of some of the scenes are great.
0:59 seconds - "The chick Bella gets on a bike and shit and she's hanging out with the wolf boy. And she's like 'I'm gonna fucking take off on this bike.' She don't say that by my dialogue is better." :D
For what it's worth, it's got a 27% on Rotten Tomatoes (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/twilight_saga_new_moon/?cmpid=rtnewsletter_11_20_09)...
I love the one quote.....
QuoteTwihards will be OMG, OMG, OMG. The rest of us? ROTFL.
Even one of the good review quotes makes it sound god-awful....
QuoteMopey, draggy, and absurdly self-important, the movie nonetheless twangs at some resonant affective chord.
EDIT: The Village Voice had this to say about the appearance of Michael Sheen (which is the one and only interesting thing about this movie)
QuoteThere, in a movie almost totally devoid of humor, let alone real passion, waits Michael Sheen, king of the evil Volturi, decked out in a long, black wig and a curling lip. Alone of all the earnest players in this turgidly euphemistic melodrama, Sheen seems to grasp that the only way you can keep a straight face through this choked-up virginity is to carry it way into camp.
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 19, 2009, 06:49:51 PM
For what it's worth, it's got a 27% on Rotten Tomatoes (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/twilight_saga_new_moon/?cmpid=rtnewsletter_11_20_09)...
I'd be interested to find out the percentage of those people who'd actually seen the movie.
Quote from: iv3rdawG on November 19, 2009, 06:13:06 PM
0:59 seconds - "The chick Bella gets on a bike and shit and she's hanging out with the wolf boy. And she's like 'I'm gonna fucking take off on this bike.' She don't say that by my dialogue is better." :D
Thank you for that.
Love the "somebody in a Spock costume looks at someone in a Chewie costume thing"! :D Only thing truer was that one good joke in the movie
Superhero Movie at the comic book convention...."Your costume sucks!"
Quote from: ScottH on November 19, 2009, 07:06:09 PM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 19, 2009, 06:49:51 PM
For what it's worth, it's got a 27% on Rotten Tomatoes (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/twilight_saga_new_moon/?cmpid=rtnewsletter_11_20_09)...
I'd be interested to find out the percentage of those people who'd actually seen the movie.
Um....
you evidently have never bothered to read Rotten Tomatoes or you'd know that this 27% is the percentage of positive reviews by newspaper, magazine and online critics.....you know, people who go to advance screenings of the film....it's how they make a living.
(figured you must need that last part explained too)
::)
27%?! Wow, that's even lower than what I expected. I think it's all downhill from here folks.
Quote from: Russell on November 19, 2009, 07:16:23 PM
27%?! Wow, that's even lower than what I expected. I think it's all downhill from here folks.
As to the quality of the films? Probably.
As to will there be more films? They're already shooting the next one and the pre-sold tickets just set a record....so this crap will go on.
From an article on IMBD...a kind of round up of reviews...
QuoteFew of them even attempt to appraise the movie for its artistic quality, the apparent thinking being, "Why bother?" Hence, Kyle Smith's hilarious review in the New York Post, which begins: "Twilight, which was about a girl and a vampire who don't hook up, is totally different from The Twilight Saga: New Moon, which is about a girl, a vampire and a werewolf who don't hook up. And it's not at all like the next sequel, in which a girl, a vampire, a werewolf and a mummy fail to find romance, nor the one after that, in which the girl gets unfriended by all of the above plus the Invisible Man and King Kong -- yet finds her heart aflutter when she befriends the Bride of Frankenstein."
:D
Quote from: Russell on November 19, 2009, 07:16:23 PM
I think it's all downhill from here folks.
Other side of the coin: it's all uphill for the riffing world!
Quote from: D.B. Barnes on November 19, 2009, 09:24:24 PM
Other side of the coin: it's all uphill for the riffing world!
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BTW Is anyone else sick of kids who confuse Twilight and The Twilight Zone? I know this is going to sound like sour grapes but I think CBS should sue.
Lord help me, I'm actually gonna see this trainwreck tonight. If it's half as bad as the last one, I'm in for a treat.
My brother, who is far braver (and funnier) than I am, took his drunk college improv troupe to the midnight showing. They only barely survived, but he still had enough life to write the following review. (He was understandably drained and exhausted, hence the occasional bout of incoherence/repetition/general-zoning-out.)
Cut for length:
New Moon is an anagram of No Women. . . . . The irony's so thick, you could cut it with Edward Cullen's impacted wisdom tooth
By Nick Ganssle
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For those of you who don't know(so, basically, everybody except that creepy emo kid sitting in my window with a look on his face that declares a combination of, "I want to vomit," and, "I want to screw you"), I am currently sitting at my laptop with a splitting headache, a painfully empty stomach, a chapter to read in History, some packing to do, and exhausted abs. And yes, I am covered in glitter. Thanks for noticing. In case you haven't guessed, I just got back from the 12:10am showing of Twilight: New Moon. And, No, I did not get kicked out. All money goes to the house(a.k.a. Nick Stevens).
A little backstory... My friend Christa and I thought it would be a great idea to get a bunch of people to go to a midnight showing of New Moon, and laugh our asses off. I caught a showing of the first Twilight in the UConn Student Union theater, last year, and it was actually an enjoyable experience. It was enjoyable, because everybody in the theater was laughing the majority of the time. We thought we could emulate that tonight . . . Or get the crap kicked out of us by a swarm of twelve-year-old girls. Whichever.
Final count was thirteen. Always a good sign. Christa couldn't make it to the same showing as us, so she was forced to watch it in a different theater with fewer cohorts. I mourn for her. She was a good soldier and she died bravely. It was torturous for her in her final hours, but she a strength that none of us could imagine. I have no such strength. Were it not for my twelve confidants, I might not have made it.
31% of us were drunk . . . when the movie started. Have you ever seen the sobering effect that kinky romance novel can have on the weak of heart? By the end of the night, there wasn't so much as a tipsy stutter left in the room.
We got there early. The lights dimmed. The previews started. The new Sherlock Holmes trailer was a therapeutic spa in a world gone mad..... And then it happened. The countdown.
The movie was about to start. All of us knew it. We didn't know if we were gonna make it to the dawn. We started saying our goodbyes... just in case. And the more I said goodbye, the more I started to hear it. The clapping. Quietly. Like golfers on a nearby green. But then the quietly started to grow. The clapping, the clapping. Like arrows on a shield. Louder, now. Too agonizing to ignore. Too insistent to dismiss. The clapping, the clapping. Louder. Louder. Like the thundering hooves of the horsemen of the apocalypse. The clapping. The clapping. That damned clapping! The uproarious clapping of that estrogenic crowd.
It had to be a dream. It had to! This . . . This *clapping* couldn't be real!
It was the horrible noise of those viscous, bastard, prepubescent teens, reveling in the glory of a slaughter-to-be. Preparing themselves for the gut-wrenching, soul-tearing cry of the woman who took their insatiable mate: Edward.
None of them would stop until they had caught... Edward.
They were excited, so very excited. They were thrilled at the thought of a second doomsday. The first hadn't quenched their thirst for death. They wanted more, oh so much more.
A full moon appeared onscreen. It edged off to the left, revealing the movie's title: N . . . O . . . O . . . (at this point I prayed that we had mistakenly walked into a midnight showing of High Noon) (we hadn't) . M . . . . . . W . . . E . . . N . . .
Fade out.
Unfortunately, the worst was still to come.
An inexplicable, incomprehensible dream sequence occurs. The only coherent part was when Bella turned into her grandmother. That was a sign of her fear of aging while Edward stays forever young.
Eventually the real Edward shows up. The whole front row(the thirteen of us) laughed at the super-slow-mo shot of Edward walking. It gave us time to appreciate Robert Pattison's . . . *cough* . . . acting.
This is followed by a scene where Edward may or may not be masturbating while reciting Romeo and Juliet. He also embraces his inner(and outer) emo by expressing suicidal thoughts to his girlfriend.
Also, apparently "saving" Bella means punching her backwards into a granite wall and table and slicing her arm open in the process.
Eventually Edward decides to leave. Dick. Anyway, by this point, we've made it through about a half hour of the film. In the scene where Edward says he's going to leave, Bella returns to her usual, brink of orgasm self, and the front row starts to laugh again (much to the chagrin of the fans sitting behind us). The moment where we completely lost it was when Bella was panting and Edward said, "I'm leaving." Bella said (still panting), "I'm coming." We lost it. Edward replied, "I don't want you to come." We lost it again. Bella looks at him, feeling affronted, and replies through labored breaths, "You don't want me to come?" You get the idea.
That was the first time somebody told us to shut up. That was also the point when my laughter started to ebb off. I wish it hadn't, but let's face it, I didn't exactly *want* to get kicked out, my stomach was completely empty, and my abs felt like they'd been pummeled by Mickey from Snatch.
Other high points of the film were:
1 ) The scene where Bella is humping the motorcycle as she hallucinates Edward.
2 ) The fact that all of the werewolves suffered from the Incredible Hulk syndrome. They never wore shirts, shoes, or the bottom of their pants, because when they turned into a wolf, their clothes would rip off. Somehow, the pants would survive.
3 ) Jacob removing his shirt to dab the gash in Bella's head. Seriously, try this move sometime.
4 ) The fact that Bella is unfazed when Jacob parkours his way into her bedroom window, but is concerned and impressed when he can jump out of it.
5 ) The fact that it isn't until like twelve scenes later that she figures out Jacob is a werewolf. Honestly, she looks completely surprised when she sees him change.
6 ) There was this action scene that was set to techno music. Seriously, it was the most beautiful blend of emo shots, stupid shots, awesome shots, and shots that made you want to screw the person sitting next to you. All set to techno.
7 ) Dakota Fanning. (Needs no explanation)
8 ) The fact that the last thirty minutes of the film contains more indecision than a thousand old ladies standing in a blockbuster trying to pick between Sleepless in Seattle and You've Got Mail. You could make an entire drinking game based on people saying, "No, wait!" and "Hold it! Wait a minute!"
9 ) The fight scenes that tried to be V for Vendetta. Admittedly, they were decently cool.
10 ) The chase scene set to techno. This was actually genuinely fantastic. It was a seamless combination of emo shots, awesome shots, stupid shots, and shots that make you want to screw the person sitting next to you.
11 ) Pretty much anytime Bella "shares a moment" with anyone.
12 ) The action movie they go to see(Face Punch). A genuinely funny scene that genuinely tried to be funny. They are rare, but far more common than in the first movie.
13 ) Edward leaning over Bella's bed saying, "You can go to sleep," as he strokes her with the all the sketch of a sex-offender in training.
There was a great moment when Bella finds out that Jacob is a werewolf. Another werewolf said, "Well, the wolf's out of the bag." About 70% of the theater actually laughed. Off to my right, I heard a buddy of mine make the "Oh, he's so clever," riff on it. But then, Dan, sitting next to me, says with the most beautiful mock-conviction and frustration I've ever heard, "Cat. It's "Let the *cat* out of the bag." It's cat!" I lost it.
Also, may I just take this moment to say . . . Edward is a DICK! He is completely self-centered! He doesn't have a good enough reason to live, so when he thinks Bella's dead, he decides to kill himself! He only thinks about himself and his own wants and needs. When he leaves, it isn't because he is afraid that Bella will lose her life. It's because he's afraid that he will lose the one thing that makes him want to continue his life. He's willing to leave her broken and depressed and without emotional direction, just so he can protect his will to live. He puts his life above her happiness.
Now, Jacob, on the other hand, is a real man. He protects Bella at the risk of his own life, but when he cannot have her, he isn't completely incapacitated. Because, unlike any of the other characters, he actually has a life worth living. He's willing to live with or without Bella. He'd prefer to be with Bella, and he does everything he can to make that happen, but when it doesn't work out, he goes back to his life. Jacob fixes up two motorcycles for Bella, knowing that she's only using him. When she starts acting suicidal, he puts his foot down and stops it when he can.
There it is. I've said my piece on the matter.
The pattern for most of the film seemed to be: Bella and someone(usually Jacob) would "share a moment". We'd laugh uproariously. (Yes, the dialogue was that bad.) Our laughter would die off. Then, suddenly, there would be a mood-crushing moment to "break the tension". The audience would laugh as we sat in stony silence.
By the end, however, the majority of the theater was laughing with us. By halfway through the movie, we were already hearing scattered laughter from other people in the theater. Their numbers grew gradually over the course of the film. The moment when the entire theater broke was when the Voltari leader read Alice's thoughts and saw her vision of the future. Her vision consists of Edward and Bella frolicking in slow-motion in a bright, sunny, forest. I'm pretty sure I saw butterflies. The laughter only got louder when Bella bared her teeth to reveal her "vampire fangs".
If you want more details, ask me in person. Right now, I'm tired, and I want to sleep.
And get out of my window, you creepy stalker!
Quote from: iv3rdawG on November 19, 2009, 06:13:06 PM
Hid descriptions of some of the scenes are great.
0:59 seconds - "The chick Bella gets on a bike and shit and she's hanging out with the wolf boy. And she's like 'I'm gonna fucking take off on this bike.' She don't say that by my dialogue is better." :D
...hahahahahaha!!!
I was just perusing some of the reviews over at RT and loved how succinct this heading is...
Twihards will be OMG, OMG, OMG. The rest of us? ROTFL. (Kevin Williamson, Toronto Sun/Jam Magazine) That's splendid! It's gonna be an interesting & fun trip to the theater this weekend.
Quote from: doggans on November 20, 2009, 04:29:31 AM
My brother, who is far braver (and funnier) than I am, took his drunk college improv troupe to the midnight showing. They only barely survived, but he still had enough life to write the following review. (He was understandably drained and exhausted, hence the occasional bout of incoherence/repetition/general-zoning-out.)
Cut for length:
New Moon is an anagram of No Women. . . . . The irony's so thick, you could cut it with Edward Cullen's impacted wisdom tooth
By Nick Ganssle
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=178478008882
For those of you who don't know(so, basically, everybody except that creepy emo kid sitting in my window with a look on his face that declares a combination of, "I want to vomit," and, "I want to screw you"), I am currently sitting at my laptop with a splitting headache, a painfully empty stomach, a chapter to read in History, some packing to do, and exhausted abs. And yes, I am covered in glitter. Thanks for noticing. In case you haven't guessed, I just got back from the 12:10am showing of Twilight: New Moon. And, No, I did not get kicked out. All money goes to the house(a.k.a. Nick Stevens).
A little backstory... My friend Christa and I thought it would be a great idea to get a bunch of people to go to a midnight showing of New Moon, and laugh our asses off. I caught a showing of the first Twilight in the UConn Student Union theater, last year, and it was actually an enjoyable experience. It was enjoyable, because everybody in the theater was laughing the majority of the time. We thought we could emulate that tonight . . . Or get the crap kicked out of us by a swarm of twelve-year-old girls. Whichever.
Final count was thirteen. Always a good sign. Christa couldn't make it to the same showing as us, so she was forced to watch it in a different theater with fewer cohorts. I mourn for her. She was a good soldier and she died bravely. It was torturous for her in her final hours, but she a strength that none of us could imagine. I have no such strength. Were it not for my twelve confidants, I might not have made it.
31% of us were drunk . . . when the movie started. Have you ever seen the sobering effect that kinky romance novel can have on the weak of heart? By the end of the night, there wasn't so much as a tipsy stutter left in the room.
We got there early. The lights dimmed. The previews started. The new Sherlock Holmes trailer was a therapeutic spa in a world gone mad..... And then it happened. The countdown.
The movie was about to start. All of us knew it. We didn't know if we were gonna make it to the dawn. We started saying our goodbyes... just in case. And the more I said goodbye, the more I started to hear it. The clapping. Quietly. Like golfers on a nearby green. But then the quietly started to grow. The clapping, the clapping. Like arrows on a shield. Louder, now. Too agonizing to ignore. Too insistent to dismiss. The clapping, the clapping. Louder. Louder. Like the thundering hooves of the horsemen of the apocalypse. The clapping. The clapping. That damned clapping! The uproarious clapping of that estrogenic crowd.
It had to be a dream. It had to! This . . . This *clapping* couldn't be real!
It was the horrible noise of those viscous, bastard, prepubescent teens, reveling in the glory of a slaughter-to-be. Preparing themselves for the gut-wrenching, soul-tearing cry of the woman who took their insatiable mate: Edward.
None of them would stop until they had caught... Edward.
They were excited, so very excited. They were thrilled at the thought of a second doomsday. The first hadn't quenched their thirst for death. They wanted more, oh so much more.
A full moon appeared onscreen. It edged off to the left, revealing the movie's title: N . . . O . . . O . . . (at this point I prayed that we had mistakenly walked into a midnight showing of High Noon) (we hadn't) . M . . . . . . W . . . E . . . N . . .
Fade out.
Unfortunately, the worst was still to come.
An inexplicable, incomprehensible dream sequence occurs. The only coherent part was when Bella turned into her grandmother. That was a sign of her fear of aging while Edward stays forever young.
Eventually the real Edward shows up. The whole front row(the thirteen of us) laughed at the super-slow-mo shot of Edward walking. It gave us time to appreciate Robert Pattison's . . . *cough* . . . acting.
This is followed by a scene where Edward may or may not be masturbating while reciting Romeo and Juliet. He also embraces his inner(and outer) emo by expressing suicidal thoughts to his girlfriend.
Also, apparently "saving" Bella means punching her backwards into a granite wall and table and slicing her arm open in the process.
Eventually Edward decides to leave. Dick. Anyway, by this point, we've made it through about a half hour of the film. In the scene where Edward says he's going to leave, Bella returns to her usual, brink of orgasm self, and the front row starts to laugh again (much to the chagrin of the fans sitting behind us). The moment where we completely lost it was when Bella was panting and Edward said, "I'm leaving." Bella said (still panting), "I'm coming." We lost it. Edward replied, "I don't want you to come." We lost it again. Bella looks at him, feeling affronted, and replies through labored breaths, "You don't want me to come?" You get the idea.
That was the first time somebody told us to shut up. That was also the point when my laughter started to ebb off. I wish it hadn't, but let's face it, I didn't exactly *want* to get kicked out, my stomach was completely empty, and my abs felt like they'd been pummeled by Mickey from Snatch.
Other high points of the film were:
1 ) The scene where Bella is humping the motorcycle as she hallucinates Edward.
2 ) The fact that all of the werewolves suffered from the Incredible Hulk syndrome. They never wore shirts, shoes, or the bottom of their pants, because when they turned into a wolf, their clothes would rip off. Somehow, the pants would survive.
3 ) Jacob removing his shirt to dab the gash in Bella's head. Seriously, try this move sometime.
4 ) The fact that Bella is unfazed when Jacob parkours his way into her bedroom window, but is concerned and impressed when he can jump out of it.
5 ) The fact that it isn't until like twelve scenes later that she figures out Jacob is a werewolf. Honestly, she looks completely surprised when she sees him change.
6 ) There was this action scene that was set to techno music. Seriously, it was the most beautiful blend of emo shots, stupid shots, awesome shots, and shots that made you want to screw the person sitting next to you. All set to techno.
7 ) Dakota Fanning. (Needs no explanation)
8 ) The fact that the last thirty minutes of the film contains more indecision than a thousand old ladies standing in a blockbuster trying to pick between Sleepless in Seattle and You've Got Mail. You could make an entire drinking game based on people saying, "No, wait!" and "Hold it! Wait a minute!"
9 ) The fight scenes that tried to be V for Vendetta. Admittedly, they were decently cool.
10 ) The chase scene set to techno. This was actually genuinely fantastic. It was a seamless combination of emo shots, awesome shots, stupid shots, and shots that make you want to screw the person sitting next to you.
11 ) Pretty much anytime Bella "shares a moment" with anyone.
12 ) The action movie they go to see(Face Punch). A genuinely funny scene that genuinely tried to be funny. They are rare, but far more common than in the first movie.
13 ) Edward leaning over Bella's bed saying, "You can go to sleep," as he strokes her with the all the sketch of a sex-offender in training.
There was a great moment when Bella finds out that Jacob is a werewolf. Another werewolf said, "Well, the wolf's out of the bag." About 70% of the theater actually laughed. Off to my right, I heard a buddy of mine make the "Oh, he's so clever," riff on it. But then, Dan, sitting next to me, says with the most beautiful mock-conviction and frustration I've ever heard, "Cat. It's "Let the *cat* out of the bag." It's cat!" I lost it.
Also, may I just take this moment to say . . . Edward is a DICK! He is completely self-centered! He doesn't have a good enough reason to live, so when he thinks Bella's dead, he decides to kill himself! He only thinks about himself and his own wants and needs. When he leaves, it isn't because he is afraid that Bella will lose her life. It's because he's afraid that he will lose the one thing that makes him want to continue his life. He's willing to leave her broken and depressed and without emotional direction, just so he can protect his will to live. He puts his life above her happiness.
Now, Jacob, on the other hand, is a real man. He protects Bella at the risk of his own life, but when he cannot have her, he isn't completely incapacitated. Because, unlike any of the other characters, he actually has a life worth living. He's willing to live with or without Bella. He'd prefer to be with Bella, and he does everything he can to make that happen, but when it doesn't work out, he goes back to his life. Jacob fixes up two motorcycles for Bella, knowing that she's only using him. When she starts acting suicidal, he puts his foot down and stops it when he can.
There it is. I've said my piece on the matter.
The pattern for most of the film seemed to be: Bella and someone(usually Jacob) would "share a moment". We'd laugh uproariously. (Yes, the dialogue was that bad.) Our laughter would die off. Then, suddenly, there would be a mood-crushing moment to "break the tension". The audience would laugh as we sat in stony silence.
By the end, however, the majority of the theater was laughing with us. By halfway through the movie, we were already hearing scattered laughter from other people in the theater. Their numbers grew gradually over the course of the film. The moment when the entire theater broke was when the Voltari leader read Alice's thoughts and saw her vision of the future. Her vision consists of Edward and Bella frolicking in slow-motion in a bright, sunny, forest. I'm pretty sure I saw butterflies. The laughter only got louder when Bella bared her teeth to reveal her "vampire fangs".
If you want more details, ask me in person. Right now, I'm tired, and I want to sleep.
And get out of my window, you creepy stalker!
Excellent review. I'm so torn because I want to see the film for its unintentional hilarity but I know it's not even worth the $9.00 they'll make me pay to see it. I mostly just want to see Michael Sheen ham it up on screen.
Quote from: doggans on November 20, 2009, 04:29:31 AM
My brother, who is far braver (and funnier) than I am, took his drunk college improv troupe to the midnight showing. They only barely survived, but he still had enough life to write the following review. (He was understandably drained and exhausted, hence the occasional bout of incoherence/repetition/general-zoning-out.)
Cut for length:
New Moon is an anagram of No Women. . . . . The irony's so thick, you could cut it with Edward Cullen's impacted wisdom tooth
By Nick Ganssle
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=178478008882
For those of you who don't know(so, basically, everybody except that creepy emo kid sitting in my window with a look on his face that declares a combination of, "I want to vomit," and, "I want to screw you"), I am currently sitting at my laptop with a splitting headache, a painfully empty stomach, a chapter to read in History, some packing to do, and exhausted abs. And yes, I am covered in glitter. Thanks for noticing. In case you haven't guessed, I just got back from the 12:10am showing of Twilight: New Moon. And, No, I did not get kicked out. All money goes to the house(a.k.a. Nick Stevens).
A little backstory... My friend Christa and I thought it would be a great idea to get a bunch of people to go to a midnight showing of New Moon, and laugh our asses off. I caught a showing of the first Twilight in the UConn Student Union theater, last year, and it was actually an enjoyable experience. It was enjoyable, because everybody in the theater was laughing the majority of the time. We thought we could emulate that tonight . . . Or get the crap kicked out of us by a swarm of twelve-year-old girls. Whichever.
Final count was thirteen. Always a good sign. Christa couldn't make it to the same showing as us, so she was forced to watch it in a different theater with fewer cohorts. I mourn for her. She was a good soldier and she died bravely. It was torturous for her in her final hours, but she a strength that none of us could imagine. I have no such strength. Were it not for my twelve confidants, I might not have made it.
31% of us were drunk . . . when the movie started. Have you ever seen the sobering effect that kinky romance novel can have on the weak of heart? By the end of the night, there wasn't so much as a tipsy stutter left in the room.
We got there early. The lights dimmed. The previews started. The new Sherlock Holmes trailer was a therapeutic spa in a world gone mad..... And then it happened. The countdown.
The movie was about to start. All of us knew it. We didn't know if we were gonna make it to the dawn. We started saying our goodbyes... just in case. And the more I said goodbye, the more I started to hear it. The clapping. Quietly. Like golfers on a nearby green. But then the quietly started to grow. The clapping, the clapping. Like arrows on a shield. Louder, now. Too agonizing to ignore. Too insistent to dismiss. The clapping, the clapping. Louder. Louder. Like the thundering hooves of the horsemen of the apocalypse. The clapping. The clapping. That damned clapping! The uproarious clapping of that estrogenic crowd.
It had to be a dream. It had to! This . . . This *clapping* couldn't be real!
It was the horrible noise of those viscous, bastard, prepubescent teens, reveling in the glory of a slaughter-to-be. Preparing themselves for the gut-wrenching, soul-tearing cry of the woman who took their insatiable mate: Edward.
None of them would stop until they had caught... Edward.
They were excited, so very excited. They were thrilled at the thought of a second doomsday. The first hadn't quenched their thirst for death. They wanted more, oh so much more.
A full moon appeared onscreen. It edged off to the left, revealing the movie's title: N . . . O . . . O . . . (at this point I prayed that we had mistakenly walked into a midnight showing of High Noon) (we hadn't) . M . . . . . . W . . . E . . . N . . .
Fade out.
Unfortunately, the worst was still to come.
An inexplicable, incomprehensible dream sequence occurs. The only coherent part was when Bella turned into her grandmother. That was a sign of her fear of aging while Edward stays forever young.
Eventually the real Edward shows up. The whole front row(the thirteen of us) laughed at the super-slow-mo shot of Edward walking. It gave us time to appreciate Robert Pattison's . . . *cough* . . . acting.
This is followed by a scene where Edward may or may not be masturbating while reciting Romeo and Juliet. He also embraces his inner(and outer) emo by expressing suicidal thoughts to his girlfriend.
Also, apparently "saving" Bella means punching her backwards into a granite wall and table and slicing her arm open in the process.
Eventually Edward decides to leave. Dick. Anyway, by this point, we've made it through about a half hour of the film. In the scene where Edward says he's going to leave, Bella returns to her usual, brink of orgasm self, and the front row starts to laugh again (much to the chagrin of the fans sitting behind us). The moment where we completely lost it was when Bella was panting and Edward said, "I'm leaving." Bella said (still panting), "I'm coming." We lost it. Edward replied, "I don't want you to come." We lost it again. Bella looks at him, feeling affronted, and replies through labored breaths, "You don't want me to come?" You get the idea.
That was the first time somebody told us to shut up. That was also the point when my laughter started to ebb off. I wish it hadn't, but let's face it, I didn't exactly *want* to get kicked out, my stomach was completely empty, and my abs felt like they'd been pummeled by Mickey from Snatch.
Other high points of the film were:
1 ) The scene where Bella is humping the motorcycle as she hallucinates Edward.
2 ) The fact that all of the werewolves suffered from the Incredible Hulk syndrome. They never wore shirts, shoes, or the bottom of their pants, because when they turned into a wolf, their clothes would rip off. Somehow, the pants would survive.
3 ) Jacob removing his shirt to dab the gash in Bella's head. Seriously, try this move sometime.
4 ) The fact that Bella is unfazed when Jacob parkours his way into her bedroom window, but is concerned and impressed when he can jump out of it.
5 ) The fact that it isn't until like twelve scenes later that she figures out Jacob is a werewolf. Honestly, she looks completely surprised when she sees him change.
6 ) There was this action scene that was set to techno music. Seriously, it was the most beautiful blend of emo shots, stupid shots, awesome shots, and shots that made you want to screw the person sitting next to you. All set to techno.
7 ) Dakota Fanning. (Needs no explanation)
8 ) The fact that the last thirty minutes of the film contains more indecision than a thousand old ladies standing in a blockbuster trying to pick between Sleepless in Seattle and You've Got Mail. You could make an entire drinking game based on people saying, "No, wait!" and "Hold it! Wait a minute!"
9 ) The fight scenes that tried to be V for Vendetta. Admittedly, they were decently cool.
10 ) The chase scene set to techno. This was actually genuinely fantastic. It was a seamless combination of emo shots, awesome shots, stupid shots, and shots that make you want to screw the person sitting next to you.
11 ) Pretty much anytime Bella "shares a moment" with anyone.
12 ) The action movie they go to see(Face Punch). A genuinely funny scene that genuinely tried to be funny. They are rare, but far more common than in the first movie.
13 ) Edward leaning over Bella's bed saying, "You can go to sleep," as he strokes her with the all the sketch of a sex-offender in training.
There was a great moment when Bella finds out that Jacob is a werewolf. Another werewolf said, "Well, the wolf's out of the bag." About 70% of the theater actually laughed. Off to my right, I heard a buddy of mine make the "Oh, he's so clever," riff on it. But then, Dan, sitting next to me, says with the most beautiful mock-conviction and frustration I've ever heard, "Cat. It's "Let the *cat* out of the bag." It's cat!" I lost it.
Also, may I just take this moment to say . . . Edward is a DICK! He is completely self-centered! He doesn't have a good enough reason to live, so when he thinks Bella's dead, he decides to kill himself! He only thinks about himself and his own wants and needs. When he leaves, it isn't because he is afraid that Bella will lose her life. It's because he's afraid that he will lose the one thing that makes him want to continue his life. He's willing to leave her broken and depressed and without emotional direction, just so he can protect his will to live. He puts his life above her happiness.
Now, Jacob, on the other hand, is a real man. He protects Bella at the risk of his own life, but when he cannot have her, he isn't completely incapacitated. Because, unlike any of the other characters, he actually has a life worth living. He's willing to live with or without Bella. He'd prefer to be with Bella, and he does everything he can to make that happen, but when it doesn't work out, he goes back to his life. Jacob fixes up two motorcycles for Bella, knowing that she's only using him. When she starts acting suicidal, he puts his foot down and stops it when he can.
There it is. I've said my piece on the matter.
The pattern for most of the film seemed to be: Bella and someone(usually Jacob) would "share a moment". We'd laugh uproariously. (Yes, the dialogue was that bad.) Our laughter would die off. Then, suddenly, there would be a mood-crushing moment to "break the tension". The audience would laugh as we sat in stony silence.
By the end, however, the majority of the theater was laughing with us. By halfway through the movie, we were already hearing scattered laughter from other people in the theater. Their numbers grew gradually over the course of the film. The moment when the entire theater broke was when the Voltari leader read Alice's thoughts and saw her vision of the future. Her vision consists of Edward and Bella frolicking in slow-motion in a bright, sunny, forest. I'm pretty sure I saw butterflies. The laughter only got louder when Bella bared her teeth to reveal her "vampire fangs".
If you want more details, ask me in person. Right now, I'm tired, and I want to sleep.
And get out of my window, you creepy stalker!
:clap: Let your brother know that I think he is brilliant.
Quote from: doggans on November 20, 2009, 04:29:31 AM
My brother, who is far braver (and funnier) than I am, took his drunk college improv troupe to the midnight showing. They only barely survived, but he still had enough life to write the following review. (He was understandably drained and exhausted, hence the occasional bout of incoherence/repetition/general-zoning-out.)
Cut for length:
New Moon is an anagram of No Women. . . . . The irony's so thick, you could cut it with Edward Cullen's impacted wisdom tooth
By Nick Ganssle
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=178478008882
For those of you who don't know(so, basically, everybody except that creepy emo kid sitting in my window with a look on his face that declares a combination of, "I want to vomit," and, "I want to screw you"), I am currently sitting at my laptop with a splitting headache, a painfully empty stomach, a chapter to read in History, some packing to do, and exhausted abs. And yes, I am covered in glitter. Thanks for noticing. In case you haven't guessed, I just got back from the 12:10am showing of Twilight: New Moon. And, No, I did not get kicked out. All money goes to the house(a.k.a. Nick Stevens).
A little backstory... My friend Christa and I thought it would be a great idea to get a bunch of people to go to a midnight showing of New Moon, and laugh our asses off. I caught a showing of the first Twilight in the UConn Student Union theater, last year, and it was actually an enjoyable experience. It was enjoyable, because everybody in the theater was laughing the majority of the time. We thought we could emulate that tonight . . . Or get the crap kicked out of us by a swarm of twelve-year-old girls. Whichever.
Final count was thirteen. Always a good sign. Christa couldn't make it to the same showing as us, so she was forced to watch it in a different theater with fewer cohorts. I mourn for her. She was a good soldier and she died bravely. It was torturous for her in her final hours, but she a strength that none of us could imagine. I have no such strength. Were it not for my twelve confidants, I might not have made it.
31% of us were drunk . . . when the movie started. Have you ever seen the sobering effect that kinky romance novel can have on the weak of heart? By the end of the night, there wasn't so much as a tipsy stutter left in the room.
We got there early. The lights dimmed. The previews started. The new Sherlock Holmes trailer was a therapeutic spa in a world gone mad..... And then it happened. The countdown.
The movie was about to start. All of us knew it. We didn't know if we were gonna make it to the dawn. We started saying our goodbyes... just in case. And the more I said goodbye, the more I started to hear it. The clapping. Quietly. Like golfers on a nearby green. But then the quietly started to grow. The clapping, the clapping. Like arrows on a shield. Louder, now. Too agonizing to ignore. Too insistent to dismiss. The clapping, the clapping. Louder. Louder. Like the thundering hooves of the horsemen of the apocalypse. The clapping. The clapping. That damned clapping! The uproarious clapping of that estrogenic crowd.
It had to be a dream. It had to! This . . . This *clapping* couldn't be real!
It was the horrible noise of those viscous, bastard, prepubescent teens, reveling in the glory of a slaughter-to-be. Preparing themselves for the gut-wrenching, soul-tearing cry of the woman who took their insatiable mate: Edward.
None of them would stop until they had caught... Edward.
They were excited, so very excited. They were thrilled at the thought of a second doomsday. The first hadn't quenched their thirst for death. They wanted more, oh so much more.
A full moon appeared onscreen. It edged off to the left, revealing the movie's title: N . . . O . . . O . . . (at this point I prayed that we had mistakenly walked into a midnight showing of High Noon) (we hadn't) . M . . . . . . W . . . E . . . N . . .
Fade out.
Unfortunately, the worst was still to come.
An inexplicable, incomprehensible dream sequence occurs. The only coherent part was when Bella turned into her grandmother. That was a sign of her fear of aging while Edward stays forever young.
Eventually the real Edward shows up. The whole front row(the thirteen of us) laughed at the super-slow-mo shot of Edward walking. It gave us time to appreciate Robert Pattison's . . . *cough* . . . acting.
This is followed by a scene where Edward may or may not be masturbating while reciting Romeo and Juliet. He also embraces his inner(and outer) emo by expressing suicidal thoughts to his girlfriend.
Also, apparently "saving" Bella means punching her backwards into a granite wall and table and slicing her arm open in the process.
Eventually Edward decides to leave. Dick. Anyway, by this point, we've made it through about a half hour of the film. In the scene where Edward says he's going to leave, Bella returns to her usual, brink of orgasm self, and the front row starts to laugh again (much to the chagrin of the fans sitting behind us). The moment where we completely lost it was when Bella was panting and Edward said, "I'm leaving." Bella said (still panting), "I'm coming." We lost it. Edward replied, "I don't want you to come." We lost it again. Bella looks at him, feeling affronted, and replies through labored breaths, "You don't want me to come?" You get the idea.
That was the first time somebody told us to shut up. That was also the point when my laughter started to ebb off. I wish it hadn't, but let's face it, I didn't exactly *want* to get kicked out, my stomach was completely empty, and my abs felt like they'd been pummeled by Mickey from Snatch.
Other high points of the film were:
1 ) The scene where Bella is humping the motorcycle as she hallucinates Edward.
2 ) The fact that all of the werewolves suffered from the Incredible Hulk syndrome. They never wore shirts, shoes, or the bottom of their pants, because when they turned into a wolf, their clothes would rip off. Somehow, the pants would survive.
3 ) Jacob removing his shirt to dab the gash in Bella's head. Seriously, try this move sometime.
4 ) The fact that Bella is unfazed when Jacob parkours his way into her bedroom window, but is concerned and impressed when he can jump out of it.
5 ) The fact that it isn't until like twelve scenes later that she figures out Jacob is a werewolf. Honestly, she looks completely surprised when she sees him change.
6 ) There was this action scene that was set to techno music. Seriously, it was the most beautiful blend of emo shots, stupid shots, awesome shots, and shots that made you want to screw the person sitting next to you. All set to techno.
7 ) Dakota Fanning. (Needs no explanation)
8 ) The fact that the last thirty minutes of the film contains more indecision than a thousand old ladies standing in a blockbuster trying to pick between Sleepless in Seattle and You've Got Mail. You could make an entire drinking game based on people saying, "No, wait!" and "Hold it! Wait a minute!"
9 ) The fight scenes that tried to be V for Vendetta. Admittedly, they were decently cool.
10 ) The chase scene set to techno. This was actually genuinely fantastic. It was a seamless combination of emo shots, awesome shots, stupid shots, and shots that make you want to screw the person sitting next to you.
11 ) Pretty much anytime Bella "shares a moment" with anyone.
12 ) The action movie they go to see(Face Punch). A genuinely funny scene that genuinely tried to be funny. They are rare, but far more common than in the first movie.
13 ) Edward leaning over Bella's bed saying, "You can go to sleep," as he strokes her with the all the sketch of a sex-offender in training.
There was a great moment when Bella finds out that Jacob is a werewolf. Another werewolf said, "Well, the wolf's out of the bag." About 70% of the theater actually laughed. Off to my right, I heard a buddy of mine make the "Oh, he's so clever," riff on it. But then, Dan, sitting next to me, says with the most beautiful mock-conviction and frustration I've ever heard, "Cat. It's "Let the *cat* out of the bag." It's cat!" I lost it.
Also, may I just take this moment to say . . . Edward is a DICK! He is completely self-centered! He doesn't have a good enough reason to live, so when he thinks Bella's dead, he decides to kill himself! He only thinks about himself and his own wants and needs. When he leaves, it isn't because he is afraid that Bella will lose her life. It's because he's afraid that he will lose the one thing that makes him want to continue his life. He's willing to leave her broken and depressed and without emotional direction, just so he can protect his will to live. He puts his life above her happiness.
Now, Jacob, on the other hand, is a real man. He protects Bella at the risk of his own life, but when he cannot have her, he isn't completely incapacitated. Because, unlike any of the other characters, he actually has a life worth living. He's willing to live with or without Bella. He'd prefer to be with Bella, and he does everything he can to make that happen, but when it doesn't work out, he goes back to his life. Jacob fixes up two motorcycles for Bella, knowing that she's only using him. When she starts acting suicidal, he puts his foot down and stops it when he can.
There it is. I've said my piece on the matter.
The pattern for most of the film seemed to be: Bella and someone(usually Jacob) would "share a moment". We'd laugh uproariously. (Yes, the dialogue was that bad.) Our laughter would die off. Then, suddenly, there would be a mood-crushing moment to "break the tension". The audience would laugh as we sat in stony silence.
By the end, however, the majority of the theater was laughing with us. By halfway through the movie, we were already hearing scattered laughter from other people in the theater. Their numbers grew gradually over the course of the film. The moment when the entire theater broke was when the Voltari leader read Alice's thoughts and saw her vision of the future. Her vision consists of Edward and Bella frolicking in slow-motion in a bright, sunny, forest. I'm pretty sure I saw butterflies. The laughter only got louder when Bella bared her teeth to reveal her "vampire fangs".
If you want more details, ask me in person. Right now, I'm tired, and I want to sleep.
And get out of my window, you creepy stalker!
It's cut for length? Would you please be so good as to pm me the full version? I don't want to miss anything. AND, I was looking forward to this movie, but, your brother is changing my mind. I mean, I still will probably see it ($4 here)....if not, I'll catch it for RiffTrax.
That is the full, unedited writeup; I meant cut behind the spoiler tag. This is what LiveJournal does to your vocabulary. :P
Quote from: doggans on November 20, 2009, 04:29:31 AM
My brother, who is far braver (and funnier) than I am, took his drunk college improv troupe to the midnight showing. They only barely survived, but he still had enough life to write the following review. (He was understandably drained and exhausted, hence the occasional bout of incoherence/repetition/general-zoning-out.)
Hit the nail on the head!
Though we can't go without mentioning the Volturi.
Seriously, they're meant to be this formidible group of important, powerful bloodsuckers, and instead we've got a creepy, mincing guy, an effeminite man with girly hair, and a big guy who looks and talks like he's constantly stoned. Along with the lovely Alice, they were the best part of the movie for me.
The Rifftrax crew have to leap on this once it hits DVD. It will be glorious.
QuoteThe "Twilight" fans have done it... The Twilight Saga: New Moon set a new midnight opening record with $26.27 million from 3,514 theaters last night! That surpasses the opening nights of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince ($22.2 million) and The Dark Knight ($18.4 million). Will "New Moon" be able to pass up "Dark Knight's" $67.1 million single day record? Stay tuned for more box office results as they come in.
This little diddy we found pretty much sums up our view of the Twilight phenomenon.
Was watching a show that had people's first reactions at midnight and one guy said he was "Team Alice". I guess RAD and I fall under that category. Amirite?
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Quote from: iv3rdawG on November 20, 2009, 05:20:57 PM
Was watching a show that had people's first reactions at midnight and one guy said he was "Team Alice". I guess RAD and I fall under that category. Amirite?
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Count me in, dawg.
Quote from: iv3rdawG on November 20, 2009, 05:20:57 PM
Was watching a show that had people's first reactions at midnight and one guy said he was "Team Alice". I guess RAD and I fall under that category. Amirite?
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*thumbs-up*
*is jazzed for today*
Edit: Touched up the plate!
New Moon, movie wise, to me was much better than Twilight. I am a Twilight fan though.
But like the last one and the Harry Potter movies and many others, cannot wait for the riff.
Well, there goes another record for The Dark Knight:
QuoteAfter setting a new record for midnight openings with $26.27 million at 3,514 theaters, Summit Entertainment's The Twilight Saga: New Moon has also broken the record for a single day, earning $71 million on Friday at 4,024 theaters. The previous single day record of $67.1 million was held by The Dark Knight.
It looks like The Dark Knight's 3-day record of $158 million may be in jeopardy now as well.
Quote from: iv3rdawG on November 21, 2009, 08:20:35 AM
Well, there goes another record for The Dark Knight:
QuoteAfter setting a new record for midnight openings with $26.27 million at 3,514 theaters, Summit Entertainment's The Twilight Saga: New Moon has also broken the record for a single day, earning $71 million on Friday at 4,024 theaters. The previous single day record of $67.1 million was held by The Dark Knight.
It looks like The Dark Knight's 3-day record of $158 million may be in jeopardy now as well.
Don't know that the death of the "It's a great movie, look at all the money it made" argument is such a bad thing....
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 19, 2009, 07:14:04 PM
Quote from: iv3rdawG on November 19, 2009, 06:13:06 PM
0:59 seconds - "The chick Bella gets on a bike and shit and she's hanging out with the wolf boy. And she's like 'I'm gonna fucking take off on this bike.' She don't say that by my dialogue is better." :D
Thank you for that.
Love the "somebody in a Spock costume looks at someone in a Chewie costume thing"! :D Only thing truer was that one good joke in the movie Superhero Movie at the comic book convention...."Your costume sucks!"
Quote from: ScottH on November 19, 2009, 07:06:09 PM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 19, 2009, 06:49:51 PM
For what it's worth, it's got a 27% on Rotten Tomatoes (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/twilight_saga_new_moon/?cmpid=rtnewsletter_11_20_09)...
I'd be interested to find out the percentage of those people who'd actually seen the movie.
Um....you evidently have never bothered to read Rotten Tomatoes or you'd know that this 27% is the percentage of positive reviews by newspaper, magazine and online critics.....you know, people who go to advance screenings of the film....it's how they make a living.
(figured you must need that last part explained too)
::)
Thanks, maybe you should start a course on being smug and negative so I can learn how to do it better. :P
Crap.
I was called into work on friday, therefore confirming my suspicions that my boss is a Twilight fan and is somehow watching me on the internet. :grr:
Oh well, now what should I do with my carboard cutout of Edward?
Decisions, decisions. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_range)
Quote from: CrowTeeRobot on November 22, 2009, 08:20:59 AM
Crap.
I was called into work on friday, therefore confirming my suspicions that my boss is a Twilight fan and is sonehow watching me on the internet. :grr:
Oh well, now what should I do with my carboard cutout of Edward?
Decisions, decisions. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_range)
I still say go on another day and burn it, hack it up with a sword, or what ever in front of fan girls
Quote from: CrowTeeRobot on November 22, 2009, 08:20:59 AM
Crap.
I was called into work on friday, therefore confirming my suspicions that my boss is a Twilight fan and is sonehow watching me on the internet. :grr:
Oh well, now what should I do with my carboard cutout of Edward?
Decisions, decisions. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_range)
Give it to someone who wants it and make them very happy.
Quote from: ScottH on November 22, 2009, 02:14:58 AM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 19, 2009, 07:14:04 PM
Quote from: iv3rdawG on November 19, 2009, 06:13:06 PM
0:59 seconds - "The chick Bella gets on a bike and shit and she's hanging out with the wolf boy. And she's like 'I'm gonna fucking take off on this bike.' She don't say that by my dialogue is better." :D
Thank you for that.
Love the "somebody in a Spock costume looks at someone in a Chewie costume thing"! :D Only thing truer was that one good joke in the movie Superhero Movie at the comic book convention...."Your costume sucks!"
Quote from: ScottH on November 19, 2009, 07:06:09 PM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 19, 2009, 06:49:51 PM
For what it's worth, it's got a 27% on Rotten Tomatoes (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/twilight_saga_new_moon/?cmpid=rtnewsletter_11_20_09)...
I'd be interested to find out the percentage of those people who'd actually seen the movie.
Um....you evidently have never bothered to read Rotten Tomatoes or you'd know that this 27% is the percentage of positive reviews by newspaper, magazine and online critics.....you know, people who go to advance screenings of the film....it's how they make a living.
(figured you must need that last part explained too)
::)
Thanks, maybe you should start a course on being smug and negative so I can learn how to do it better. :P
With your class on how to jump to conclusions and be judgmental about people and things without bothering to learn anything about it?
PS - I'm assuming that you're including Kevin Smith and the screenwriter of
Superhero Movie in that description since all I did is agree with them?
Do you mean like how someone who likes Twilight couldn't possibly enjoy 'good' music? that sort of thing?
Please at least try to think of your own retorts, you'd think you'd be practiced enough at ranting.
Hey kids, let's play nice, okay?
Quote from: ScottH on November 22, 2009, 09:37:57 AM
Do you mean like how someone who likes Twilight couldn't possibly enjoy 'good' music? that sort of thing?
Hit a nerve, did I?
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 22, 2009, 09:40:02 AM
Quote from: ScottH on November 22, 2009, 09:37:57 AM
Do you mean like how someone who likes Twilight couldn't possibly enjoy 'good' music? that sort of thing?
Hit a nerve, did I?
Is that really what you're going with? that I have to be a Twilight fan to be bothered by your constant arrogant and pointless negativity? I guess since I'm the only person who's noticed it this week alone then that must be true.
I hear about Twilight at least twice as much here as I do in real life and the smug, looking down on people who enjoy the books or movies is the only issue I have with the series.
Even though I despise the Twilight series, I am glad that it defeated 2012 in it's opening weekend! Heck, even BLIND SIDE beat 2012! I guess you could say 2012 was BLIND SIDED BY BLIND SIDE! ;D
Quote from: ScottH on November 22, 2009, 09:43:45 AM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 22, 2009, 09:40:02 AM
Quote from: ScottH on November 22, 2009, 09:37:57 AM
Do you mean like how someone who likes Twilight couldn't possibly enjoy 'good' music? that sort of thing?
Hit a nerve, did I?
Is that really what you're going with? that I have to be a Twilight fan to be bothered by your constant arrogant and pointless negativity?
And I'm the
only one been negative about Twilight in this thread and the several others on the board...
And about the Guy Ritchie
Sherlock Holmes film in this thread (http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php/topic,9465.0.html) ("which hasn't come out yet" as people keep throwing at me).
Or the "What have we learned" thread about Star Trek (http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php/topic,16205.0.html) (which a lot of those points about the film seem strangely familiar).
And yet, I'm the only one here who's ever tarred as "negative".
Does anyone else find it at all creepy that Stephenie Meyer is writing about an unhealthy relationship and young girls primarily are swallowing it up? Edward acts in just as obsessive a way as Bella but yet their psychoses is being deified. I fear that these young girls will think that stalking is an acceptable facet of courtship instead of seeing it as an unhealthy behavior. I am so afraid that this will cause girls...and guys...to openly trust someone because using Twilight as a template the stalker who has been dogging them is supposed to be a guy just like Edward Cullen. These movies and the books are doing a horrible job of telling its fans that such intense fascination from the stalker could turn into a very violent situation. I think of Ted Bundy a lot, a very handsome guy who charmed most of his victims then brutally murdered them...and worse.
Quote from: Priss on November 22, 2009, 04:20:23 PM
Does anyone else find it at all creepy that Stephenie Meyer is writing about an unhealthy relationship and young girls primarily are swallowing it up?
Yes. But if you mention it "you just don't understand", "you're old" or you're a "hater".
BTW, if you like the unhealthy relationship of Bella and Edward, you'll love that Meyers has Bella getting on a motorcycle with some random biker she picks up in front of a bar.....and then makes it seem like all she had to do was tell the guy she didn't want to ride anymore and he'd just take her back and drop her off no problem.
Yeah, girls...all that stuff your parents told you about the dangers of hitchhiking? You'll be alright as long as you're in love.
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 22, 2009, 04:34:21 PM
Yes. But if you mention it "you just don't understand", "you're old" or you're a "hater".
BTW, if you like the unhealthy relationship of Bella and Edward, you'll love that Meyers has Bella getting on a motorcycle with some random biker she picks up in front of a bar.....and then makes it seem like all she had to do was tell the guy she didn't want to ride anymore and he'd just take her back and drop her off no problem.
Yeah, girls...all that stuff your parents told you about the dangers of hitchhiking? You'll be alright as long as you're in love.
If people want to call me too old, they're more than welcome to. But I am perplexed that a woman of Stephie Meyer's age can happily write about this twisted couple and think that it's what love should be about. Here is a woman who is old enough to remember guys like Ted Bundy and how they lured their prey with blind trust. And here she is writing about a character who puts her faith in the hands of dangerous people, who in the books take her away from a more normal, fruitful life, which was her choice granted, yet the author makes it sound like Edward is the best thing for Bella while making a guy like Jacob, who despite being a werewolf is more socially well adjusted, seem much less preferable in comparison even though Jacob has saved Bella numerous times instead of putting her in harm's way like Edward has. What s this telling young girls who read these books, that it's alright to accomodate the pervy stalker especially if he's hot? It just pisses me off to no end that these sorts of things have become socially acceptable. At least the Babysitter's Club books never had stories in them that condoned unhealthy relationships with stalkers.
Okay, that was about 45 minutes too long! Tomorrow, I've gotta get myself one of these...
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What an entertainingly silly franchise! I love it.
That settles it. I'm going to BK just to get me one of those crowns. I'm all for Team Jailbait.
Quote from: TeamRAD on November 22, 2009, 05:23:02 PM
Okay, that was about 45 minutes too long!
Actually, I was thinking the whole story could have been told in 45 minutes of film....
BTW........I know I'm not supposed to ask questions that might in anyway cast doubt on this set of books and movies being the greatest thing since the creation of the Universe but....
In this new movie - and I assume the books - the werewolves spend their time chasing after the other two vampires...Victoria and Dreadlock guy.
I know Jacob wasn't one yet but...where were these other werewolves after the guy in the hard hat and Butt-Crack Santa were killed in the first movie? Why weren't those two and James too busy having to run for the hills with "the dogs" at their heels as soon as those two deaths were reported to have time to show up for the baseball game?
(Other than Bella had to be in danger somehow, that is?)
Quote from: Priss on November 22, 2009, 05:17:10 PM
If people want to call me too old, they're more than welcome to. But I am perplexed that a woman of Stephie Meyer's age can happily write about this twisted couple and think that it's what love should be about. Here is a woman who is old enough to remember guys like Ted Bundy and how they lured their prey with blind trust
Don't even have to go as far as a Ted Bundy....
Bella's set up as some kind of female ideal because no matter how many injuries, scars and other brushes with death she goes through, she's defending the man she "loves" (literally) to the death.
These books very well could be raising a new generation of enablers for wife-beaters.
Quote from: Priss on November 22, 2009, 05:36:19 PM
That settles it. I'm going to BK just to get me one of those crowns. I'm all for Team Jailbait.
Priss, the fan pack is on me! We can trade cards!!
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You'd think w/ Bella being a vegetarian, they'd have commemorative veggie-burger shots, but no.
Quote from: Priss on November 22, 2009, 05:36:19 PM
That settles it. I'm going to BK just to get me one of those crowns. I'm all for Team Jailbait.
KISS MY ASS!!!! TEAM PEDOWOLF ALL THE WAY!!!! YOU SUCK!
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 22, 2009, 05:37:15 PM
Quote from: TeamRAD on November 22, 2009, 05:23:02 PM
Okay, that was about 45 minutes too long!
Actually, I was thinking the whole story could have been told in 45 minutes of film....
BTW........I know I'm not supposed to ask questions that might in anyway cast doubt on this set of books and movies being the greatest thing since the creation of the Universe but....
In this new movie - and I assume the books - the werewolves spend their time chasing after the other two vampires...Victoria and Dreadlock guy.
I know Jacob wasn't one yet but...where were these other werewolves after the guy in the hard hat and Butt-Crack Santa were killed in the first movie? Why weren't those two and James too busy having to run for the hills with "the dogs" at their heels as soon as those two deaths were reported to have time to show up for the baseball game?
(Other than Bella had to be in danger somehow, that is?)
Alright, if I recall correctly, these aren't actual wearwolves because it's not the moon that changes them. It is instead some legend of their tribe that involves spirits flitting in and out of living beings that they can turn into wolves. It hasn't happened in a few generations, so, when it happened with the eldest (and current alpha), it was a shock to all. It hadn't happened in the previous book yet so they couldn't furspode into tracking vampires. That's something that was introduced in this book/movie.Quote from: TeamRAD on November 22, 2009, 05:44:24 PM
You'd think w/ Bella being a vegetarian, they'd have commemorative veggie-burger shots, but no.
That was something new to the movies. In the book she wasn't a vegetarian, I don't think.
Quote from: Lovye on November 22, 2009, 05:57:45 PM
KISS MY ASS!!!! TEAM PEDOWOLF ALL THE WAY!!!! YOU SUCK!
Actually we're talking about the same Team. Taylor Lautner is only 17, henceforth why I call him Team Jailbait.
Quote from: TeamRAD on November 22, 2009, 05:44:24 PM
You'd think w/ Bella being a vegetarian, they'd have commemorative veggie-burger shots, but no.
It's okay. There's no actual meat in those burgers. They're mostly sawdust and spackling compound.
Quote from: Lovye on November 22, 2009, 05:57:45 PM
Quote from: Priss on November 22, 2009, 05:36:19 PM
That settles it. I'm going to BK just to get me one of those crowns. I'm all for Team Jailbait.
KISS MY ASS!!!! TEAM PEDOWOLF ALL THE WAY!!!! YOU SUCK!
Quote from: Priss on November 22, 2009, 06:03:02 PM
Quote from: Lovye on November 22, 2009, 05:57:45 PM
KISS MY ASS!!!! TEAM PEDOWOLF ALL THE WAY!!!! YOU SUCK!
Actually we're talking about the same Team. Taylor Lautner is only 17, henceforth why I call him Team Jailbait.
You both inhale violently...tiny psychic vampires FTW!
;)
Quote from: Priss on November 22, 2009, 06:03:02 PM
Quote from: Lovye on November 22, 2009, 05:57:45 PM
KISS MY ASS!!!! TEAM PEDOWOLF ALL THE WAY!!!! YOU SUCK!
Actually we're talking about the same Team. Taylor Lautner is only 17, henceforth why I call him Team Jailbait.
Ah. My apologies. I thought you were advocating Bella.....even though she's not at odds with anyboby.
I am confused and frightened.
Barbarian, come on now, that's just your butt speaking on the realism mode from L4D2...
;)
Quote from: Lovye on November 22, 2009, 05:57:45 PM
Alright, if I recall correctly, these aren't actual wearwolves because it's not the moon that changes them. It is instead some legend of their tribe that involves spirits flitting in and out of living beings that they can turn into wolves. It hasn't happened in a few generations, so, when it happened with the eldest (and current alpha), it was a shock to all. It hadn't happened in the previous book yet so they couldn't furspode into tracking vampires. That's something that was introduced in this book/movie.
Okay....but then I have to ask....
I get that they're not werewolves as we've known them - just like the Cullens aren't vampires like we - or anyone else until now - have ever heard about....
But that story that Jacob tells about the treaty his tribe has with the Cullens....
So if this having werewolves around is such a hit-and-miss thing, then how could the tribe have any power to hold the Cullens to their part of the treaty? If the Cullens wanted to violate the thing all they'd have to do is wait for a time without werewolves and wipe them out, wouldn't they? The tribe must feel that the Cullens are a constant threat considering the Evil Eye they're always giving each other (like Edward glaring at Jacob at the prom and saying something about "the wolves showing up" - even though Jacob wasn't one yet ???).
And if these spirits come in and out of the members of the tribe at will, why didn't they when Dreadlock and company first strolled into town? Why did they wait until now?
God, this is all just so badly written! :-\
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 22, 2009, 06:52:55 PM
Quote from: Lovye on November 22, 2009, 05:57:45 PM
Alright, if I recall correctly, these aren't actual wearwolves because it's not the moon that changes them. It is instead some legend of their tribe that involves spirits flitting in and out of living beings that they can turn into wolves. It hasn't happened in a few generations, so, when it happened with the eldest (and current alpha), it was a shock to all. It hadn't happened in the previous book yet so they couldn't furspode into tracking vampires. That's something that was introduced in this book/movie.
Okay....but then I have to ask....
I get that they're not werewolves as we've known them - just like the Cullens aren't vampires like we - or anyone else until now - have ever heard about....
But that story that Jacob tells about the treaty his tribe has with the Cullens....
So if this having werewolves around is such a hit-and-miss thing, then how could the tribe have any power to hold the Cullens to their part of the treaty? If the Cullens wanted to violate the thing all they'd have to do is wait for a time without werewolves and wipe them out, wouldn't they? The tribe must feel that the Cullens are a constant threat considering the Evil Eye they're always giving each other (like Edward glaring at Jacob at the prom and saying something about "the wolves showing up" - even though Jacob wasn't one yet ???).
And if these spirits come in and out of the members of the tribe at will, why didn't they when Dreadlock and company first strolled into town? Why did they wait until now?
God, this is all just so badly written! :-\
It IS so badly written!!! ;D
Long before the Cullens got there was when the ancestor of theirs I think got murdered and his spirit went into a wolf and something to do with his sons...... I don't remember, the series is unremarkable and mushed together. Books 2 & 3 are one year, split in two.
It is because somebody's human spirit went into a wolf before that now allows these people of this tribe (and, again, not all people, I think there has to be vampires around and the tribe to feel threatened for this to materialize....I'm not sure). It's not that spirits are now floating in and out of corporeal bodies.
They are kinda at the mercy of the Cullen's, BUT, remember, it's a quid pro quo agreement: the vampires don't hunt wolves on their property and the wolf tribe wont tell all of Washington that the vampires are vampires.
It IS VERY poorly written, and, I bet Wikipedia would explain it better.....and give you a headache.
Quote from: Lovye on November 22, 2009, 07:09:09 PM
It IS so badly written!!! ;D
It is because somebody's human spirit went into a wolf before that now allows these people of this tribe.....
.....Remember, it's a quid pro quo agreement: the vampires don't hunt wolves on their property and the wolf tribe wont tell all of Washington that the vampires are vampires.
But....
But the tribe isn't telling White Eyes about the other vampires being vampires either...so the Cullens bought their silence about everyone no matter how nasty?
Besides, Jacob is bitching at Edward at the end of this new movie that biting Bella will be breaking the treaty...and she's not part of the tribe.
And Jacob knows about the bite mark on Bela's arm...guess that's not a problem because she didn't die? And if all the Cullens had to leave because the Dr.'s age was raising questions, how come they were able to come back at the end of the movie?
Oh...for the clarity and story-telling prowess of a George Lucas script.....
Quote from: Priss on November 22, 2009, 06:03:02 PM
Quote from: Lovye on November 22, 2009, 05:57:45 PM
KISS MY ASS!!!! TEAM PEDOWOLF ALL THE WAY!!!! YOU SUCK!
Actually we're talking about the same Team. Taylor Lautner is only 17, henceforth why I call him Team Jailbait.
HURRAY FOR TEAM SHARKBOY!!!!!!!!
also
Quote"Twilight" sequel "New Moon" grossed around $141 million this weekend, failing to break the record for best opening weekend of all time. The film bumped "Pirates of the Caribbean" ($136 million) to take third place after "The Dark Knight" ($158 million) and "Spider-Man 3" ($151 million). "New Moon" still holds the records for best midnight gross and best first day gross.
The film also performed well internationally, grabbing another $118.1 million, for a total worldwide debut of $258.8 million.
The amazing numbers helped make this the second-best weekend ever at the domestic box office in terms of overall ticket sales, trailing only the weekend that "The Dark Knight" opened.
Assisting the weekend's performance was Sandra Bullock's "The Blind Side," which did far better than expected by opening to an estimated $34.5 million. Even the badly-reviewed "Planet 51" debuted to $12.6 million.
In limited release, Nicolas Cage's "Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans" grossed only $257,267 from 27 theaters, for a mediocre per-screen average of $9,528. Meanwhile, Penelope Cruz's "Broken Embraces" opened in two locations for a per-screen average of $53,799, earning a total of $107,597.
RAD's got the right idea. *thumbs up*
I've chosen my alliance
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Quote from: OmegaR! on November 22, 2009, 09:08:36 PM
I've chosen my alliance
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There's zombies in "Twilight" too? :D
Hmm, while I was at the Redbox today picking up "The Taking of Pelham 123" I saw what looked like a ripoff of twilight tucked into the corner of all the DVD covers. When I take my movie back I'll snap a picture, because I haven't the foggiest what its name was. Looked like something from the asylum, and god would that be wonderful.
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 22, 2009, 09:11:08 PM
There's zombies in "Twilight" too? :D
"He's not really dead. As long as we remember him" :)
The Bum and Spoony's take on the second Twilight:
http://blip.tv/play/AYGxlmIC
http://blip.tv/play/hIVVgbGGQwI
No way man, Aberdeen RULES!!!
Oh, sorry, wrong series.
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 22, 2009, 07:21:45 PMBut....
But the tribe isn't telling White Eyes about the other vampires being vampires either...so the Cullens bought their silence about everyone no matter how nasty?
Besides, Jacob is bitching at Edward at the end of this new movie that biting Bella will be breaking the treaty...and she's not part of the tribe.
And Jacob knows about the bite mark on Bela's arm...guess that's not a problem because she didn't die? And if all the Cullens had to leave because the Dr.'s age was raising questions, how come they were able to come back at the end of the movie?
Oh...for the clarity and story-telling prowess of a George Lucas script.....
I can't believe I am quasi defending this.
Alright, they're not telling ANYBODY about vampires in the area because, well, really? I know Billy or whatever is friends with Charlie, but, "Charlie, there are vampires on the loose and my tribe are wolf people," would terminate a friendship and possibly land The Bees Wounded Knees in the loony bin.
I think another part of the agreement is that the vampires couldn't hunt people. The Cullen vampires, I mean. I have yet to see this movie.
I don't think the bite mark on Bella's arm is an issue because none of the Cullens did it. It was one of the "bad" vampires. The story about Dr. Cullen's age may have been a cover to give Bella an excuse that it's not all her.
Indeed.
Quote from: Lovye on November 22, 2009, 09:18:47 PM
No way man, Aberdeen RULES!!!
Oh, sorry, wrong series.
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 22, 2009, 07:21:45 PMBut....
But the tribe isn't telling White Eyes about the other vampires being vampires either...so the Cullens bought their silence about everyone no matter how nasty?
Besides, Jacob is bitching at Edward at the end of this new movie that biting Bella will be breaking the treaty...and she's not part of the tribe.
And Jacob knows about the bite mark on Bela's arm...guess that's not a problem because she didn't die? And if all the Cullens had to leave because the Dr.'s age was raising questions, how come they were able to come back at the end of the movie?
Oh...for the clarity and story-telling prowess of a George Lucas script.....
I can't believe I am quasi defending this.
Alright, they're not telling ANYBODY about vampires in the area because, well, really? I know Billy or whatever is friends with Charlie, but, "Charlie, there are vampires on the loose and my tribe are wolf people," would terminate a friendship and possibly land The Bees Wounded Knees in the loony bin.
I think another part of the agreement is that the vampires couldn't hunt people. The Cullen vampires, I mean. I have yet to see this movie.
I don't think the bite mark on Bella's arm is an issue because none of the Cullens did it. It was one of the "bad" vampires. The story about Dr. Cullen's age may have been a cover to give Bella an excuse that it's not all her.
Indeed.
Well, there are ways of ratting out others without ratting yourself out....especially since wolves don't sparkle in the sun.
Never got to see Dreadlocks sparkle....wonder how that would have looked?
And saw no sign at all of the kid who somehow managed to speed through the parking lot and almost hit Bella last movie despite all the speed bumps and Dreadlocks is gone - so "Twilight" is officially out of African Americans
Quote from: TeamRAD on November 22, 2009, 06:48:44 PM
Barbarian, come on now, that's just your butt speaking on the realism mode from L4D2...
;)
Granted, but he's pretty good at typing, huh?
Quote from: Moleman on November 22, 2009, 09:17:07 PM
http://blip.tv/play/hIVVgbGGQwI
Who is that? It's like Zach Braff went to the Glen Beck School of Pausing, Acting, & Looking.
Damn straight, Joss...Angel would kick the shit out of him!
http://media.mtvnservices.com/mgid:uma:video:mtv.com:424660
...just wait until some of the Twihards discover the incredible Buffyverse.
vampires in film/tv are all gay anyway. There is no escaping that.
Quote from: Sideswipe on November 23, 2009, 09:16:52 AM
vampires in film/tv are all gay anyway. There is no escaping that.
Except Spike. He's a man's....vampire man...thing. Yeah. He's the manliest vampire I've ever seen.
We were at the mall on Saturday and not only was it overpopulated by tweens and teens (100% of them girls) wearing/carrying Twilight "Team ____" whatsits, but Hot Topic was about to split down the sides from all the people in there buying vampire gear.
I don't understand this team stuff. If it's about who gets the girl, then doesn't Edward win by default? That makes rooting for Jacob kind of silly.
Quote from: Courtney on November 17, 2009, 06:37:35 PM
Question: why do they all have albino ferret eyes in this one, but not the last one?
This is something I still genuinely want to know.
Quote from: Tyrant on November 23, 2009, 10:46:49 AM
I don't understand this team stuff. If it's about who gets the girl, then doesn't Edward win by default? That makes rooting for Jacob kind of silly.
Doesn't sound like anyone who ends up with Bella is really "winning" at all.
Quote from: RobtheBarbärian on November 23, 2009, 01:34:43 PM
Quote from: Tyrant on November 23, 2009, 10:46:49 AM
I don't understand this team stuff. If it's about who gets the girl, then doesn't Edward win by default? That makes rooting for Jacob kind of silly.
Doesn't sound like anyone who ends up with Bella is really "winning" at all.
:clap: :clap: :clap:
Actually, I think there's a chance that the "Team ____" could be an interesting sociological study some day. Find out if "Team Edward" all ended up in abusive relationship whereas "Team Jacob" didn't....
Or if there's a higher rate of pedophilia in the guys that "Team Jacob" goes for?
You know, if I was Bella and I had to chose between Edward and Jacob, I'd go for the werewolf. Why is Bella just so dumb? Jacob saved her numerous times yet she chooses Edward. I just don't get it. Jacob is so much hotter than Edward as well.
Quote from: Priss on November 23, 2009, 02:32:39 PM
Why is Bella just so dumb?
Hard for a character to be smarter than the author of said work.....
Dumb like a fox, if that's the case. I'm more inclined to agree with Spoony when he says she's more likely just batshit crazy.
Quote from: Priss on November 23, 2009, 02:32:39 PM
You know, if I was Bella and I had to chose between Edward and Jacob, I'd go for the werewolf. Why is Bella just so dumb? Jacob saved her numerous times yet she chooses Edward. I just don't get it. Jacob is so much hotter than Edward as well.
If I was Bella, I'd move the hell away from Forks, WA and go somewhere with normal guys.
Quote from: RobtheBarbärian on November 23, 2009, 02:51:59 PM
Dumb like a fox, if that's the case. I'm more inclined to agree with Spoony when he says she's more likely just batshit crazy.
I'm inclined to agree. How can she not see that she could have a normal life with a guy like Jacob despite his being a werewolf, unless the facet of werewolves being unable to control their violent urges comes into play. Otherwise, according to what has been presented in the Twilight films seems to indicate that Jacob has Bella's best interests in mind. Dare I say Bella would become a more sane person if she would have chosen Jacob. Instead, with Edward, her life is nothing but dangerous uncertainties with the Volturi trying to find every excuse to eliminate her.
I don't know about the rest of you guys, but if I had two guys interested in me, I'd chose the guy who wouldn't cause me to get hurt, maimed or killed.
Quote from: Priss on November 23, 2009, 03:28:59 PM
...but if I had two guys interested in me, I'd chose the guy who wouldn't cause me to get hurt, maimed or killed.
But Bella wants to die...so she can be with Edward forever....and be immortal.
(although events in the last two books should tell her that even vampires die)
I don't recall if this has been posted before, but Cracked.com's take on the Twilight series made me laugh myself into a coma: http://www.cracked.com/funny-36-twilight/ (http://www.cracked.com/funny-36-twilight/)
QuoteThree hundred pages after "Oh, you like me too? No way, I thought you hated me!", the plot arrives late to the party, drunk, in a beat-up '53 Chevy pick-up truck. It drives away about fifty pages later and crashes into a tree, gets sent to the hospital, and is rarely heard from again throughout the course of the series.
:D
Team Alice:
Ashley Greene on Letterman tonight. Do they really still need to get the word out about the movie? Meh, whatever.
I would like to see the Monster Squad show up and frag everyone in this movie.
Quote from: Priss on November 23, 2009, 03:28:59 PM
Quote from: RobtheBarbärian on November 23, 2009, 02:51:59 PM
Dumb like a fox, if that's the case. I'm more inclined to agree with Spoony when he says she's more likely just batshit crazy.
I'm inclined to agree. How can she not see that she could have a normal life with a guy like Jacob despite his being a werewolf, unless the facet of werewolves being unable to control their violent urges comes into play.
It does. The head werewolf's fiance is scared for life because he got mad once. In the book it's even more crazy because the only reason she is his fiance is because he disfigured her and obviously no man would want her after that. Another great lesson for teenage girls! If you have a flaw, you should probably take what you can get even if he disfigured you.
Quote from: Tyrant on November 23, 2009, 10:46:49 AM
Quote from: Sideswipe on November 23, 2009, 09:16:52 AM
vampires in film/tv are all gay anyway. There is no escaping that.
Except Spike. He's a man's....vampire man...thing. Yeah. He's the manliest vampire I've ever seen.
Since we seem to be suggesting fiction creates behaviour, Spike did attempt to kill Buffy for a number of years and then try and rape her so y'know.
Quote from: Tyrant on November 23, 2009, 05:16:20 PM
I don't recall if this has been posted before, but Cracked.com's take on the Twilight series made me laugh myself into a coma: http://www.cracked.com/funny-36-twilight/ (http://www.cracked.com/funny-36-twilight/)
You know, reading that I just realized.....
They're already partly into the events (so to speak) of the "Eclipse" book in this new movie. Is this because Patterson is only signed to a three-picture deal and they're going to condense "Breaking Dawn" into the Eclipse film?Quote from: ScottH on November 23, 2009, 05:45:24 PM
Since we seem to be suggesting fiction creates behaviour, Spike did attempt to kill Buffy for a number of years and then try and rape her so y'know.
Never saw those episodes....did they keep it clear that Spike was the villain of the piece? That would be a big difference.
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 23, 2009, 05:52:04 PM
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Quote from: ScottH on November 23, 2009, 05:45:24 PM
Since we seem to be suggesting fiction creates behaviour, Spike did attempt to kill Buffy for a number of years and then try and rape her so y'know.
Never saw those episodes....did they keep it clear that Spike was the villain of the piece? That would be a big difference.
No, I thought the show went from being great to unwatchable during seasn 4 so I didn't see it often but from memory he stayed Buffy's love interest both before and after he tried to rape her and she took his side over her friends for pretty much the rest of the show's run.
Not that I think that means anything (much less a statement on how to live or a guide to relationships) since his role, much like Edward Cullen's seems to be the stereotypical 'bad boy' just updated and modified for the audience. If Twilight was written in the 50's Edward would be a biker or Paulo the pool boy or something, the young girl seduced by the thrill of the mysterious and dangerous is as old as time.
Quote from: TeamRAD on November 23, 2009, 04:35:30 AM
...just wait until some of the Twihards discover the incredible Buffyverse.
For Christmas I'm giving a friend who is
heavily into Twilight seasons 1 and 2 of Buffy. :) She's enjoyed the RiffTrax for Twilight, and has been watching both
True Blood and
Vampire Diaries, so I know she isn't too obsessed by the particular Twi-characters to accept something different. Hopefully she'll enjoy the only one of the four that I could rewatch [well, barring Twilight with the RiffTrax commentary].
BTW, there's a thread on the message board of IMDB for
New Moon reporting all the riffing that was done in the different theaters....
Lots of good one's on there but one of my favorites is...
QuoteAlso in the Italy scene when she was running past some guy, some girl in the Audience called out "I Changed my mind, Im not team Jacob anymore, Im team that guy that was just on screen for less then a second"
:D
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 23, 2009, 04:13:44 PM
(although events in the last two books should tell her that even vampires die)
You'd think what happens to the cute looking blond vampire bad guy in the first movie would have driven the point home. No matter how the Twihards paint the Bella and Edward "romance" I still don't understand why she'd pass up a hot looking, totally devoted, sane guy like Jacob for that pasty twit. The only explanation has been stated in here and that Bella is mentally unstable.
Quote from: Priss on November 24, 2009, 05:05:07 AM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 23, 2009, 04:13:44 PM
(although events in the last two books should tell her that even vampires die)
You'd think what happens to the cute looking blond vampire bad guy in the first movie would have driven the point home. No matter how the Twihards paint the Bella and Edward "romance" I still don't understand why she'd pass up a hot looking, totally devoted, sane guy like Jacob for that pasty twit. The only explanation has been stated in here and that Bella is mentally unstable.
I find it really funny that two women are having this discussion, I'd say at least 80% of the guys here will be able to say from personal experience that a teenage girl picking a guy who's bad for her over a nice, stable guy happens all the time.
Ah, I wondered how long it would take for a "nice guy" (http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/ng.shtml) to start bleating. ;)
Quote from: ScottH on November 24, 2009, 05:27:20 AM
I find it really funny that two women are having this discussion, I'd say at least 80% of the guys here will be able to say from personal experience that a teenage girl picking a guy who's bad for her over a nice, stable guy happens all the time.
I find it funny that you've claimed you're not a Twihard and yet you seem to live in this thread...
Although most, if not all of what you do is not comment on the film but comment on others commenting on the film.
Isn't there's a term for that....? (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trolling)
Quote from: ScottH on November 24, 2009, 05:27:20 AM
I find it really funny that two women are having this discussion, I'd say at least 80% of the guys here will be able to say from personal experience that a teenage girl picking a guy who's bad for her over a nice, stable guy happens all the time.
I guess I must fall into that rare 20% range because I'd rather be alone than hitch myself to a controlling, manipulative bad boy. The sad thing is that sometimes girls learn all too late the fatality of their decisions.
Unlike Bella, I'm not attracted to danger. Every since I can remember I've stayed as far away from purveyors of danger, even if it meant ostracizing myself from other people I knew were no good. I'd say hello to them but that was about it.
Fatality seems like a strong term in the context of dating, it's human nature from my experience. People who are bored or feeling lost gravitate to the unknown and mysterious for the thrill of danger.
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 24, 2009, 06:08:28 AM
Quote from: ScottH on November 24, 2009, 05:27:20 AM
I find it really funny that two women are having this discussion, I'd say at least 80% of the guys here will be able to say from personal experience that a teenage girl picking a guy who's bad for her over a nice, stable guy happens all the time.
I find it funny that you've claimed you're not a Twihard and yet you seem to live in this thread...
Although most, if not all of what you do is not comment on the film but comment on others commenting on the film.
Isn't there's a term for that....? (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trolling)
You're here more than me so what does that say about you I wonder? I
was (perhaps foolishly) attempting to engage in conversation, which seems less... distasteful than mocking and/or condeming imagined fans of a series for enjoying something you don't.
However I'm sure you'll continue to dismiss any objection to your attitude as you do whenever anyone questions it so I won't won't to labor the point.
Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on November 24, 2009, 05:50:59 AM
Ah, I wondered how long it would take for a "nice guy" (http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/ng.shtml) to start bleating. ;)
It seems you're confusing "bleating" with conversation, hardly surprising given the tone of this thread in general.
Quote from: ScottH on November 24, 2009, 06:37:37 AM
Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on November 24, 2009, 05:50:59 AM
Ah, I wondered how long it would take for a "nice guy" (http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/ng.shtml) to start bleating. ;)
It seems you're confusing "bleating" with conversation, hardly surprising given the tone of this thread in general.
Nope ;)
Quote from: ScottH on November 24, 2009, 06:37:37 AM
Fatality seems like a strong term in the context of dating, it's human nature from my experience. People who are bored or feeling lost gravitate to the unknown and mysterious for the thrill of danger.
Considering the statistics of women in highly abusive relationships who don't leave, it's a pretty apt term. I prefer men (And the keyword here is men.) who know who they are, what they want in life and have the maturity to let me know what they're looking for. I'm not the sort who likes mystery and danger at all.
Quote from: Priss on November 24, 2009, 06:58:50 AM
Quote from: ScottH on November 24, 2009, 06:37:37 AM
Fatality seems like a strong term in the context of dating, it's human nature from my experience. People who are bored or feeling lost gravitate to the unknown and mysterious for the thrill of danger.
Considering the statistics of women in highly abusive relationships who don't leave, it's a pretty apt term. I prefer men (And the keyword here is men.) who know who they are, what they want in life and have the maturity to let me know what they're looking for. I'm not the sort who likes mystery and danger at all.
I see your point but to me the traditional 'bad boy' character is more the arrogant, uncaring, macho type as opposed to someone who's actually directly aggressive. I'd say it seems like your overthinking the characters and the fan's adaption of it but that's just my take.
Quote from: ScottH on November 24, 2009, 10:06:45 AM
I see your point but to me the traditional 'bad boy' character is more the arrogant, uncaring, macho type as opposed to someone who's actually directly aggressive. I'd say it seems like your overthinking the characters and the fan's adaption of it but that's just my take.
You see, this is what confuses me about the Twilight movies. They want you to side with Bella and Edward, but the way they conduct themselves, they act like hormonal asstards. Realistically, if Edward was so guilt ridden about her safety he should have slapped a restraining order against Bella in the first movie if she just couldn't get the hint. Instead, he keeps telling her to stay away one moment then trying to get close to her the next. And then, in new moon, just to hallucinate that Edward is there Bella goes to extreme lengths just to see a spectral form of him, like he's the embodiment of her Emo Sense warning her of danger. If I was constantly telling my significant other in spectral form not to do something only to get ignored, I'd finally get sick of it and tell him to just go kill himself in a stupid manner because I'm going to go find me someone with more sanity. And you just cannot tell me people of weak, poorly developed minds won't try and emulate what they see their idols doing even if it's based on a fictional couple.
I have a hard time imagining Edward as a 'bad boy'. Hell, looking at his actions in the movie, this guy is the complete opposite of a bad boy.
He's a complete coward.
Think about it, after the incident at the birthday party, what does Edward do? Does he shrug it off, warn Bella to be more careful in the future, slap Jasper around and tell him to get his bloodlust in check so this doesn't happen again?
Nope, he runs away like a big pussy, unwilling to face the problem. And the moron doesn't even have a decency to let Bella down easy with this. He just buggers off without even a proper goodbye, and doesn't even write.
He might be right about staying away from her, but does that mean he and his entire family have to break contact with her? Have they not heard of this miraculous technology called e-mail or the telephone?
And when he hears about Bella's 'death', his first instinct is suicide? How about going back to Forks to find out what happened, asshole? Maybe pay your respects to Bella's dad? Nope, apparantly your loss is more important.
What a dick. And he needs to eat a damn sandwich.
Quote from: Toby Danger on November 24, 2009, 02:13:34 PM
I have a hard time imagining Edward as a 'bad boy'. Hell, looking at his actions in the movie, this guy is the complete opposite of a bad boy.
He's a complete coward.
Think about it, after the incident at the birthday party, what does Edward do? Does he shrug it off, warn Bella to be more careful in the future, slap Jasper around and tell him to get his bloodlust in check so this doesn't happen again?
Nope, he runs away like a big pussy, unwilling to face the problem. And the moron doesn't even have a decency to let Bella down easy with this. He just buggers off without even a proper goodbye, and doesn't even write.
He might be right about staying away from her, but does that mean he and his entire family have to break contact with her? Have they not heard of this miraculous technology called e-mail or the telephone?
And when he hears about Bella's 'death', his first instinct is suicide? How about going back to Forks to find out what happened, asshole? Maybe pay your respects to Bella's dad? Nope, apparantly your loss is more important.
What a dick. And he needs to eat a damn sandwich.
I don't know. In my mind it just looks tp me like Edward Cullen and Bella Swan are two of the most screwed up, depraved teenage characters in cinema. The first thing they both do when faced with separation in whatever form is to run swiftly towards the danger?
Quote from: Toby Danger on November 24, 2009, 02:13:34 PM
I have a hard time imagining Edward as a 'bad boy'. Hell, looking at his actions in the movie, this guy is the complete opposite of a bad boy.
He's a complete coward.
Your description of Edward's actions reminds me of John Merrick's criticism of Romeo in the play "The Elephant Man" - that Romeo didn't really love Juliet because he was so quick to accept that she was dead, (paraphrasing) "Did check her pulse? Did he hold a mirror up to check for her breath? If it had been me, I would have checked."
Quote from: Priss on November 24, 2009, 10:41:08 AM
Quote from: ScottH on November 24, 2009, 10:06:45 AM
I see your point but to me the traditional 'bad boy' character is more the arrogant, uncaring, macho type as opposed to someone who's actually directly aggressive. I'd say it seems like your overthinking the characters and the fan's adaption of it but that's just my take.
You see, this is what confuses me about the Twilight movies. They want you to side with Bella and Edward, but the way they conduct themselves, they act like hormonal asstards. Realistically, if Edward was so guilt ridden about her safety he should have slapped a restraining order against Bella in the first movie if she just couldn't get the hint. Instead, he keeps telling her to stay away one moment then trying to get close to her the next. And then, in new moon, just to hallucinate that Edward is there Bella goes to extreme lengths just to see a spectral form of him, like he's the embodiment of her Emo Sense warning her of danger. If I was constantly telling my significant other in spectral form not to do something only to get ignored, I'd finally get sick of it and tell him to just go kill himself in a stupid manner because I'm going to go find me someone with more sanity. And you just cannot tell me people of weak, poorly developed minds won't try and emulate what they see their idols doing even if it's based on a fictional couple.
I could reference many studies that show people are not directly influenced to act based on media and I'm sure you could find many that show otherwise. I think "weak, poorly developed minds" is being unessesarily cruel to the fanbase, however to use the same comparison as Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck. Teenagers (many of whom may have "weak, poorly developed minds") have been reading Romeo and Juliet for a long time and suicide pacts are still pretty uncommon.
Quote from: Toby Danger on November 24, 2009, 02:13:34 PM
What a dick. And he needs to eat a damn sandwich.
Well... maybe eat someone who's eaten a sandwich. ;D
Quote from: ScottH on November 24, 2009, 05:53:34 PM
I could reference many studies that show people are not directly influenced to act based on media and I'm sure you could find many that show otherwise. I think "weak, poorly developed minds" is being unessesarily cruel to the fanbase, however to use the same comparison as Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck. Teenagers (many of whom may have "weak, poorly developed minds") have been reading Romeo and Juliet for a long time and suicide pacts are still pretty uncommon.
So uncommon that
Heathers used it in their plot as a "current epidemic"....?
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 24, 2009, 06:12:41 PM
Quote from: ScottH on November 24, 2009, 05:53:34 PM
I could reference many studies that show people are not directly influenced to act based on media and I'm sure you could find many that show otherwise. I think "weak, poorly developed minds" is being unessesarily cruel to the fanbase, however to use the same comparison as Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck. Teenagers (many of whom may have "weak, poorly developed minds") have been reading Romeo and Juliet for a long time and suicide pacts are still pretty uncommon.
So uncommon that Heathers used it in their plot as a "current epidemic"....?
Heathers is a comedy, a great comedy. Man, I should get a copy of Heathers.
Quote from: ScottH on November 24, 2009, 06:36:45 PM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 24, 2009, 06:12:41 PM
Quote from: ScottH on November 24, 2009, 05:53:34 PM
I could reference many studies that show people are not directly influenced to act based on media and I'm sure you could find many that show otherwise. I think "weak, poorly developed minds" is being unessesarily cruel to the fanbase, however to use the same comparison as Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck. Teenagers (many of whom may have "weak, poorly developed minds") have been reading Romeo and Juliet for a long time and suicide pacts are still pretty uncommon.
So uncommon that Heathers used it in their plot as a "current epidemic"....?
Heathers is a comedy, a great comedy. Man, I should get a copy of Heathers.
??? ??? ??? So, you're claiming that the teenage suicide epidemic was only made up as a joke in that movie?
So, Billy Joel also wrote "You're Only Human (Second Wind)" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You%27re_Only_Human_%28Second_Wind%29) in 1985 not because there was a real concern about that at the time....he just did it for the hell of it?
From The New York Time Magazine (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/04/magazine/04wwln_idealab.html)
QuoteAfter declining for decades, the rate started climbing in the late 1950's, especially for boys. By the 1980's, it had tripled - to 11.3 per 100,000 teenagers 15 to 19, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
Does your view of reality end at the tip of your nose or the bridge of it?
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 24, 2009, 08:32:38 PM
Quote from: ScottH on November 24, 2009, 06:36:45 PM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 24, 2009, 06:12:41 PM
Quote from: ScottH on November 24, 2009, 05:53:34 PM
I could reference many studies that show people are not directly influenced to act based on media and I'm sure you could find many that show otherwise. I think "weak, poorly developed minds" is being unessesarily cruel to the fanbase, however to use the same comparison as Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck. Teenagers (many of whom may have "weak, poorly developed minds") have been reading Romeo and Juliet for a long time and suicide pacts are still pretty uncommon.
So uncommon that Heathers used it in their plot as a "current epidemic"....?
Heathers is a comedy, a great comedy. Man, I should get a copy of Heathers.
??? ??? ??? So, you're claiming that the teenage suicide epidemic was only made up as a joke in that movie?
So, Billy Joel also wrote "You're Only Human (Second Wind)" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You%27re_Only_Human_%28Second_Wind%29) in 1985 not because there was a real concern about that at the time....he just did it for the hell of it?
From The New York Time Magazine (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/04/magazine/04wwln_idealab.html)
QuoteAfter declining for decades, the rate started climbing in the late 1950's, especially for boys. By the 1980's, it had tripled - to 11.3 per 100,000 teenagers 15 to 19, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
Does your view of reality end at the tip of your nose or the bridge of it?
what was that name for people who use personal insults again? :D
Romeo and Juliet was written around 1591, you're saying that relates to people killing themselves in 1980? Again, I'm sure you can find as many studies which show people's behaviour is dictated by media as I could find reports stating the opposite (sadly I'm not sure Billy Joel can back me up)
Even if your point is correct, what would be the solution? get rid of an entertainment which anyone may act on or be influenced by?
Quote from: ScottH on November 24, 2009, 09:04:00 PM
Romeo and Juliet was written around 1591, you're saying that relates to people killing themselves in 1980? Again, I'm sure you can find as many studies which show people's behaviour is dictated by media as I could find reports stating the opposite (sadly I'm not sure Billy Joel can back me up)
Even if your point is correct, what would be the solution? get rid of an entertainment which anyone may act on or be influenced by?
Even Shakespeare shows that Romeo's act of suicide was rash and ill-advised - because it was based on wrong information and knee-jerk reactions. That's why it's labeled a tragedy.
In fact if Romeo had been paying attention, the color was coming back to her face as she was waking up just before he did it ("Thou art not conquer'd; beauty's ensign yet Is crimson in thy lips and in thy cheeks..."). And that then led to Juliet making another bad rash decision.
"Twilight" paints suicide - whether by Bella or Edward - to be the ultimate act of love. That it's something good and romantic. And then these books are focus marketed mainly to an age group that has a tendency to react and over-react emotionally, a group who tend to feel "immortal" and act without thinking long term (which, for instance, is a reason why auto insurance costs more for teenagers - you've heard of that, yes?).
Like I've said, if these books had the same theme and Bella was being shown as a bad role model or she did have this relationship but then realized the mistake she was making in the end (even if they weren't written any better) I'd be more than fine with them. In fact, I'd probably encourage young women to read them. But she's not shown as self-destructive. Just the opposite - she gets to go to vampire nirvana in the end. She gets to not only have her guy and become a vampire...she also gets break every law they have so she can have everything she wants.
I think I'd rather have a tween see
The Room deal with suicide, for god sake.....(perhaps
with the sex scenes to encourage waiting until your older). Maybe they'd come away thinking that only inarticulate pasty guys with greasy hair, lumpy suits and who can't throw a football farther than 3 feet commit suicide....
And questioning whether you pay attention to anything in life that doesn't concern you is not name calling.
"Asshole" is an example of name calling.
He says it at the beginning but I'll say it too
***************SPOILERS******************
(as in he acts out the entire movie)
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Everything I'm hearing about this is making it sound unintentionally hilarious. I'm actually kind of considering seeing it now.
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 25, 2009, 01:19:35 PM
Quote from: ScottH on November 24, 2009, 09:04:00 PM
Romeo and Juliet was written around 1591, you're saying that relates to people killing themselves in 1980? Again, I'm sure you can find as many studies which show people's behaviour is dictated by media as I could find reports stating the opposite (sadly I'm not sure Billy Joel can back me up)
Even if your point is correct, what would be the solution? get rid of an entertainment which anyone may act on or be influenced by?
Even Shakespeare shows that Romeo's act of suicide was rash and ill-advised - because it was based on wrong information and knee-jerk reactions. That's why it's labeled a tragedy.
In fact if Romeo had been paying attention, the color was coming back to her face as she was waking up just before he did it ("Thou art not conquer'd; beauty's ensign yet Is crimson in thy lips and in thy cheeks..."). And that then led to Juliet making another bad rash decision.
"Twilight" paints suicide - whether by Bella or Edward - to be the ultimate act of love. That it's something good and romantic. And then these books are focus marketed mainly to an age group that has a tendency to react and over-react emotionally, a group who tend to feel "immortal" and act without thinking long term (which, for instance, is a reason why auto insurance costs more for teenagers - you've heard of that, yes?).
Like I've said, if these books had the same theme and Bella was being shown as a bad role model or she did have this relationship but then realized the mistake she was making in the end (even if they weren't written any better) I'd be more than fine with them. In fact, I'd probably encourage young women to read them. But she's not shown as self-destructive. Just the opposite - she gets to go to vampire nirvana in the end. She gets to not only have her guy and become a vampire...she also gets break every law they have so she can have everything she wants.
I think I'd rather have a tween see The Room deal with suicide, for god sake.....(perhaps with the sex scenes to encourage waiting until your older). Maybe they'd come away thinking that only inarticulate pasty guys with greasy hair, lumpy suits and who can't throw a football farther than 3 feet commit suicide....
And questioning whether you pay attention to anything in life that doesn't concern you is not name calling.
"Asshole" is an example of name calling.
The fact you entirely avoided the question aside, your 'point' jumps all over the place. Essentially you seem to be saying people who read Twilight will end up behaving self-destructively because they can't distinguish fantasy from reality, which I strongly disagree with if that in fact is your 'point'
QuoteI think I'd rather have a tween see The Room deal with suicide, for god sake.....(perhaps with the sex scenes to encourage waiting until your older).
Although with this you just come of as creepy so it's hard to tell.
I'm gonna end this argument once and for all.
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Quote from: ScottH on November 26, 2009, 02:45:31 AM
The fact you entirely avoided the question aside, your 'point' jumps all over the place.
Coming from someone who (supposedly) looked at the proof of concerns about teenage suicide increases (and at certain times) I provided after you insisted it didn't exist and was even just made up for the movie
Heathers....and whose response was, "Even if your point is correct..."
You have you own sets of facts and that's all you'll acknowledge. I've proved that and that's enough.
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:D
I'ma gonna see this today.
Like Leno said a few nights ago (paraprhasing): The movie is about a girl who can't decide to date a vampire or a wearwolf. She's not thinking; the vampire can't go out during the day and the wearwolf can't go out at night, I don't see a problem.
Quote from: Lovye on November 26, 2009, 11:43:58 AM
I'ma gonna see this today.
Like Leno said a few nights ago (paraprhasing): The movie is about a girl who can't decide to date a vampire or a wearwolf. She's not thinking; the vampire can't go out during the day and the wearwolf can't go out at night, I don't see a problem.
Well, in Meyer's world both can go out anytime.....just that the vampire can't go out in direct sunlight lest he sparkle.
I didn't believe people when they said this was unintentional lulz. I now am a believer.
You know what's sad? The COOL stuff that was in the movie, was NOT in the books. That's what was added.
Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on November 26, 2009, 09:59:23 AM
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Dude, you're a bit late for that. Titanic came out in 1997, and Micheal Ceras has been around for a while. :P
Srsly though, I will put htis out:
New Moon only has any tension at all because
everyone in the story acts like a complete moron.
Anyone stupid enough to emulate behavior from new moon and see the characters as role models is already at a higher risk of death by self-inflicted grooming appliance injury.
Quote from: Fuzzy Necromancer on November 27, 2009, 01:44:55 AM
and Micheal Ceras has been around for a while. :P
Wait, there are women that want to sleep with that omega male? I didn't buy that in
Juno let alone real life.
Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on November 27, 2009, 05:45:19 AM
Quote from: Fuzzy Necromancer on November 27, 2009, 01:44:55 AM
and Micheal Ceras has been around for a while. :P
Wait, there are women that want to sleep with that omega male? I didn't buy that in Juno let alone real life.
that can't be true, the guy has only one facial expression
I'm not sure if this is the right thread to post this, but I've got to put it somewhere: http://chud.com/articles/articles/21684/1/THE-DEVIN039S-ADVOCATE-WHY-BREAKING-DAWN-MUST-BE-MADE-INTO-A-MOVIE/Page1.html
Quote from: Relaxing Dragon on November 27, 2009, 10:09:39 AM
I'm not sure if this is the right thread to post this, but I've got to put it somewhere: http://chud.com/articles/articles/21684/1/THE-DEVIN039S-ADVOCATE-WHY-BREAKING-DAWN-MUST-BE-MADE-INTO-A-MOVIE/Page1.html
This is what I mean....parents let their pre-teens read this shit?
But I still suspect that since part of what isn't supposed to happen until the book
Eclipse has happened in the movie
New Moon I'm getting the feeling that the movie
Eclipse will be a mash of the last two books.
BTW, the Cullens own an island off Brazil? So... why all the stuff about moving around? Why not just stock with deer or some other animal to feed from and just live safely on their own for the rest of their days?
And a question for anyone who's read the books......do they get into Carlisle's history at all? Am I the only one finding the idea of a practicing physician/vampire who "saves" patients he can't save medically by making them vampires 100 times more interesting than anything else about these books?
EDIT: When I looked up
Twilight to double check the doctor's name...clicked on the actor's profile and in his Tweets there was a link to this - "Here's my gift to you.A spoof of Breaking Dawn": :D
http://g4tv.com/videos/42956/Possible-Twilight-Breaking-Dawn-Footage/ (http://g4tv.com/videos/42956/Possible-Twilight-Breaking-Dawn-Footage/)
Spoiler
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Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 27, 2009, 12:16:46 PMAnd a question for anyone who's read the books......do they get into Carlisle's history at all? Am I the only one finding the idea of a practicing physician/vampire who "saves" patients he can't save medically by making them vampires 100 times more interesting than anything else about these books?
Yes. Yes they do. I think his father was a priest of the Anglican variety. And there was a plague. Or something....Details are sketchy. Ah, here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlisle_Cullen#Carlisle_Cullen
Quote from: Lovye on November 27, 2009, 02:29:45 PM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 27, 2009, 12:16:46 PMAnd a question for anyone who's read the books......do they get into Carlisle's history at all? Am I the only one finding the idea of a practicing physician/vampire who "saves" patients he can't save medically by making them vampires 100 times more interesting than anything else about these books?
Yes. Yes they do. I think his father was a priest of the Anglican variety. And there was a plague. Or something....Details are sketchy. Ah, here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlisle_Cullen#Carlisle_Cullen
Now see, THAT sounds like it could be a cool book series.....flesh it out a bit.
Hmmm....Rosalie (blonde vampire) was beaten and raped by her drunken fiance and his friends....Esmee had an abusive husband....the way Bella is treated....pattern, maybe? ;)
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 27, 2009, 12:16:46 PM
But I still suspect that since part of what isn't supposed to happen until the book Eclipse has happened in the movie New Moon I'm getting the feeling that the movie Eclipse will be a mash of the last two books.
And I think this confirms my suspicions as there's no appearance of the Volturi in the book "Eclipse"....but they show up at the end of "Breaking Dawn".
QuoteIn the New Moon film, the cast of the Volturi includes Michael Sheen as Aro; Jamie Campbell Bower as Caius; Christopher Heyerdahl as Marcus; Dakota Fanning as Jane; Cameron Bright as Alec; Charlie Bewley as Demetri; Daniel Cudmore as Felix....Fanning, Bright, Charlie Bewley, and Cudmore will reprise their roles in the 2010 film Eclipse.
No Michael Sheen! :'( ;)
So only one more film and it's over!!! :highfive:
With these actors, at least. And considering how they seem to feel about the series, they'll probably jump ship as soon as their contracts expire. But considering the absurd amount of money this thing is making, they'll find some way to continue it.
Meyer would have to write more books. Unless they start filming fan fiction about this fan fiction....
And looks like she's too busy with this other series The Host and the movies they're going to make from those....which a brief look at a summary makes me think, "Bad L. Ron Hubbard novel"....but that could be unfair.
Hope they change the name if they make a movie out of that, there's already a Host movie (that, naturally, is very good).
Quote from: Relaxing Dragon on November 27, 2009, 04:06:02 PM
Hope they change the name if they make a movie out of that, there's already a Host movie (that, naturally, is very good).
The Korean monster movie? Because (according to IMDB) there's been five films called
The Host....and two in the works. ???
Maybe they'll name it
Stephanie Meyer's The Host....
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 27, 2009, 02:46:02 PM
Quote from: Lovye on November 27, 2009, 02:29:45 PM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 27, 2009, 12:16:46 PMAnd a question for anyone who's read the books......do they get into Carlisle's history at all? Am I the only one finding the idea of a practicing physician/vampire who "saves" patients he can't save medically by making them vampires 100 times more interesting than anything else about these books?
Yes. Yes they do. I think his father was a priest of the Anglican variety. And there was a plague. Or something....Details are sketchy. Ah, here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlisle_Cullen#Carlisle_Cullen
Now see, THAT sounds like it could be a cool book series.....flesh it out a bit.
Hmmm....Rosalie (blonde vampire) was beaten and raped by her drunken fiance and his friends....Esmee had an abusive husband....the way Bella is treated....pattern, maybe? ;)
Not only that, BUT, Jacob force kisses Bella, one of the shape-shifting wolves, as I'm sure you have seen, scars his fiance....and I'm not sure if it was in the book or the anti's came up with it, but, it could be because the fiance rejected him, and so, he scared her, and, my personaly favourite, Edward taking out the engine of Bella's truck, telling her that he'd only stop her if she tried to have free will, and paid off his sister so that Bella wouldn't be around her friends. Ah, romance!
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 27, 2009, 04:15:21 PM
Quote from: Relaxing Dragon on November 27, 2009, 04:06:02 PM
Hope they change the name if they make a movie out of that, there's already a Host movie (that, naturally, is very good).
The Korean monster movie? Because (according to IMDB) there's been five films called The Host....and two in the works. ???
Maybe they'll name it Stephanie Meyer's The Host....
Good call. I guess the Korean one is the only one I think of.
Quote from: Lovye on November 27, 2009, 04:16:46 PM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 27, 2009, 02:46:02 PM
Quote from: Lovye on November 27, 2009, 02:29:45 PM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 27, 2009, 12:16:46 PMAnd a question for anyone who's read the books......do they get into Carlisle's history at all? Am I the only one finding the idea of a practicing physician/vampire who "saves" patients he can't save medically by making them vampires 100 times more interesting than anything else about these books?
Yes. Yes they do. I think his father was a priest of the Anglican variety. And there was a plague. Or something....Details are sketchy. Ah, here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlisle_Cullen#Carlisle_Cullen
Now see, THAT sounds like it could be a cool book series.....flesh it out a bit.
Hmmm....Rosalie (blonde vampire) was beaten and raped by her drunken fiance and his friends....Esmee had an abusive husband....the way Bella is treated....pattern, maybe? ;)
Not only that, BUT, Jacob force kisses Bella, one of the shape-shifting wolves, as I'm sure you have seen, scars his fiance....and I'm not sure if it was in the book or the anti's came up with it, but, it could be because the fiance rejected him, and so, he scared her, and, my personaly favourite, Edward taking out the engine of Bella's truck, telling her that he'd only stop her if she tried to have free will, and paid off his sister so that Bella wouldn't be around her friends. Ah, romance!
What was that line of Mike's in the
Twilight Rifftrax when Edward tells Bella that no one would believe her about how he stopped the truck....?
"Quoting directly from The Abusive Guy's Handbook there..."
Quote from: Relaxing Dragon on November 27, 2009, 10:09:39 AM
I'm not sure if this is the right thread to post this, but I've got to put it somewhere: http://chud.com/articles/articles/21684/1/THE-DEVIN039S-ADVOCATE-WHY-BREAKING-DAWN-MUST-BE-MADE-INTO-A-MOVIE/Page1.html
see now I would pay full price for that
also, Twilight is better than The Princess Bride
QuoteTw Staff: Reading Twilight it came to me the story of Westley and Buttercup. Is Bella and Edward love, True Love like theirs?
Stephenie: Actually Bella and Edward love story is better than them. When I was in college I wrote a l paper from a feminist perspective (it's an easy way to write) on the princess bride so I am little biased. The problem I have with Westley and Buttercup is Buttercup is an idiot and it doesn't bother anyone, all that matters is that she's beautiful, that is her only value. At the end she redeems herself a bit, but the female characters are very weak in that story. Westley is brave and smart and fights, Buttercup is just beautiful, it's her only thing: her brain means nothing, her personality means nothing to him, they have the kind of love where they can't leave without each other. It's not a great example to me. I couldn't find one who was a really good comparison to me, I mean, Elizabeth Bennet and Mr.Darcy's it's pretty good, except you should think that if either one of them dies the other one will carry on bravely, and Romeo and Juliet were kind of idiots, they didn't know each other very well. And Anna Of Green Gables and Gilbert Blythe (Anna dai capelli rossi), but they are much more like Jacob and Bella, they're friend they get the nerves of each other a lot. I didn't find out yet a Bella and Edward love story that really satisfied me that way.
http://www.twilightersitalia.com/sito/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=466&I%0Atemid=113
Quote from: esoobaC .T bocaJ on November 27, 2009, 05:34:38 PM
Quote from: Relaxing Dragon on November 27, 2009, 10:09:39 AM
I'm not sure if this is the right thread to post this, but I've got to put it somewhere: http://chud.com/articles/articles/21684/1/THE-DEVIN039S-ADVOCATE-WHY-BREAKING-DAWN-MUST-BE-MADE-INTO-A-MOVIE/Page1.html
see now I would pay full price for that
Yeah I already knew about the content of the book and that's been my view all along; the last one might actually be worth watching, if for nothing else to see if they can actually put it all on screen.
Quote from: esoobaC .T bocaJ on November 27, 2009, 05:34:38 PM
Quote from: Relaxing Dragon on November 27, 2009, 10:09:39 AM
I'm not sure if this is the right thread to post this, but I've got to put it somewhere: http://chud.com/articles/articles/21684/1/THE-DEVIN039S-ADVOCATE-WHY-BREAKING-DAWN-MUST-BE-MADE-INTO-A-MOVIE/Page1.html
see now I would pay full price for that
also, Twilight is better than The Princess Bride
QuoteTw Staff: Reading Twilight it came to me the story of Westley and Buttercup. Is Bella and Edward love, True Love like theirs?
Stephenie: Actually Bella and Edward love story is better than them. When I was in college I wrote a l paper from a feminist perspective (it's an easy way to write) on the princess bride so I am little biased. The problem I have with Westley and Buttercup is Buttercup is an idiot and it doesn't bother anyone, all that matters is that she's beautiful, that is her only value. At the end she redeems herself a bit, but the female characters are very weak in that story. Westley is brave and smart and fights, Buttercup is just beautiful, it's her only thing: her brain means nothing, her personality means nothing to him, they have the kind of love where they can't leave without each other. It's not a great example to me. I couldn't find one who was a really good comparison to me, I mean, Elizabeth Bennet and Mr.Darcy's it's pretty good, except you should think that if either one of them dies the other one will carry on bravely, and Romeo and Juliet were kind of idiots, they didn't know each other very well. And Anna Of Green Gables and Gilbert Blythe (Anna dai capelli rossi), but they are much more like Jacob and Bella, they're friend they get the nerves of each other a lot. I didn't find out yet a Bella and Edward love story that really satisfied me that way.
http://www.twilightersitalia.com/sito/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=466&I%0Atemid=113
Wait, WHAT?!!!!! Is this the same Buttercup who was mean to Westley only to find out she loved him, and, went horseriding by herself, and, tried to swim away from her kidnappers, and, talked back to The Dread Captain Roberts, and, rolled down a hill when it occured to her that it was her Westley, and, "WILL YOU PROMISE NOT TO HURT HIM?", and threatening and calling out Prince....whatever his name is when he said she killed Westley (and, it's not that a ghost form of Westley told her to lie), and, yet, like, Bella, was going to commit suicide, but, told somebody about it first.....AFTER SHE TOLD THAT PERSON THAT HE WAS A GOOD KIND PERSON, unlike Bella would!!!?????
THAT Buttercup? Is that THE Buttercup we're on?!!!!
Quote from: esoobaC .T bocaJ on November 27, 2009, 05:34:38 PM
also, Twilight is better than The Princess Bride
QuoteTw Staff: Reading Twilight it came to me the story of Westley and Buttercup. Is Bella and Edward love, True Love like theirs?
Stephenie: Actually Bella and Edward love story is better than them. When I was in college I wrote a l paper from a feminist perspective (it's an easy way to write) on the princess bride so I am little biased. The problem I have with Westley and Buttercup is Buttercup is an idiot and it doesn't bother anyone, all that matters is that she's beautiful, that is her only value. At the end she redeems herself a bit, but the female characters are very weak in that story. Westley is brave and smart and fights, Buttercup is just beautiful, it's her only thing: her brain means nothing, her personality means nothing to him, they have the kind of love where they can't leave without each other. It's not a great example to me. I couldn't find one who was a really good comparison to me, I mean, Elizabeth Bennet and Mr.Darcy's it's pretty good, except you should think that if either one of them dies the other one will carry on bravely, and Romeo and Juliet were kind of idiots, they didn't know each other very well. And Anna Of Green Gables and Gilbert Blythe (Anna dai capelli rossi), but they are much more like Jacob and Bella, they're friend they get the nerves of each other a lot. I didn't find out yet a Bella and Edward love story that really satisfied me that way.
http://www.twilightersitalia.com/sito/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=466&I%0Atemid=113
Okay...."it's pretty good, except you should think that if either one of them dies the other one will carry on bravely" is something good according to Meyer but in "New Moon" Bella gets self-destructive and withdrawn to the point that she's inert and Edward immediately wants to kill himself when he thinks Bella's dead....
This woman is certifiable. >:(
Quote from: esoobaC .T bocaJ on November 27, 2009, 05:34:38 PM
Quote from: Relaxing Dragon on November 27, 2009, 10:09:39 AM
I'm not sure if this is the right thread to post this, but I've got to put it somewhere: http://chud.com/articles/articles/21684/1/THE-DEVIN039S-ADVOCATE-WHY-BREAKING-DAWN-MUST-BE-MADE-INTO-A-MOVIE/Page1.html
see now I would pay full price for that
also, Twilight is better than The Princess Bride
QuoteTw Staff: Reading Twilight it came to me the story of Westley and Buttercup. Is Bella and Edward love, True Love like theirs?
Stephenie: Actually Bella and Edward love story is better than them. When I was in college I wrote a l paper from a feminist perspective (it's an easy way to write) on the princess bride so I am little biased. The problem I have with Westley and Buttercup is Buttercup is an idiot and it doesn't bother anyone, all that matters is that she's beautiful, that is her only value. At the end she redeems herself a bit, but the female characters are very weak in that story. Westley is brave and smart and fights, Buttercup is just beautiful, it's her only thing: her brain means nothing, her personality means nothing to him, they have the kind of love where they can't leave without each other. It's not a great example to me. I couldn't find one who was a really good comparison to me, I mean, Elizabeth Bennet and Mr.Darcy's it's pretty good, except you should think that if either one of them dies the other one will carry on bravely, and Romeo and Juliet were kind of idiots, they didn't know each other very well. And Anna Of Green Gables and Gilbert Blythe (Anna dai capelli rossi), but they are much more like Jacob and Bella, they're friend they get the nerves of each other a lot. I didn't find out yet a Bella and Edward love story that really satisfied me that way.
http://www.twilightersitalia.com/sito/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=466&I%0Atemid=113
Feminist. I do not think that word means what she thinks it means. I mean, I know the woman has a few screws loose, but actually trying to argue that Westley and Buttercup fail at love, whereas Bella and Edward are love incarnate....
Granted, if you actually read what passes as the actual book, Buttercup really is a walking idiot for some of it. And unwashed for the first part. But I'd still take that version of her over any version of Bella.
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 22, 2009, 04:34:21 PM
Quote from: Priss on November 22, 2009, 04:20:23 PM
if you like the unhealthy relationship of Bella and Edward, you'll love that Meyers has Bella getting on a motorcycle with some random biker she picks up in front of a bar.....
That's just the movie...
Quote from: quistisffviii on November 28, 2009, 02:55:47 PM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 22, 2009, 04:34:21 PM
if you like the unhealthy relationship of Bella and Edward, you'll love that Meyers has Bella getting on a motorcycle with some random biker she picks up in front of a bar.....
That's just the movie...
You're right..I stand corrected. What she did in the book is go up to them because she thought they were the same guys who were going to sexually assault her in the first book...and was then disappointed and lost interest when they weren't. Then, Meyer's seems to want to make her friend Jessica appear to be a pain because she gets upset that Bella did something so dumb.
Actually, it seems the movie understood that there needed to be a better link between Bella's self-destructiveness and her interest in motorcycles than the book gives....that after she's moping around and thumping her head against the steering wheel of her truck she sees an "as is" one for sale....
Quote from: Relaxing Dragon on November 27, 2009, 10:09:39 AM
I'm not sure if this is the right thread to post this, but I've got to put it somewhere: http://chud.com/articles/articles/21684/1/THE-DEVIN039S-ADVOCATE-WHY-BREAKING-DAWN-MUST-BE-MADE-INTO-A-MOVIE/Page1.html
Holy Shit...
I'm convinced that Stephanie Meyer inbibed several narcotics and just wrote whatever bollocks came to her head, because she knew the Twilight fans would just buy this regardless. This is just insane... and I so want it to be filmed.
Can you imagine what Taylor Lautner's face must have looked like when he read this?
Quote from: Toby Danger on December 02, 2009, 03:14:21 PM
I'm convinced that Stephanie Meyer inbibed several narcotics and just wrote whatever bollocks came to her head, because she knew the Twilight fans would just buy this regardless. This is just insane... and I so want it to be filmed.
I'd still like to know who at the publishing house looked at this and said, "This is great stuff!!!"
(https://forum.rifftrax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg443.imageshack.us%2Fimg443%2F9453%2Fhijinksensueedwardjames.jpg&hash=7d249921570912b51fa02b20fd5d12554b43da2d)
http://store.hijinksensue.com/product/team-edward-james-olmos-t-shirt
Haha, yes!
Quote from: iv3rdawG on December 02, 2009, 04:09:44 PM
(https://forum.rifftrax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg443.imageshack.us%2Fimg443%2F9453%2Fhijinksensueedwardjames.jpg&hash=7d249921570912b51fa02b20fd5d12554b43da2d)
http://store.hijinksensue.com/product/team-edward-james-olmos-t-shirt
Haha, yes!
Win!!!
Quote from: Toby Danger on December 02, 2009, 03:14:21 PM
Quote from: Relaxing Dragon on November 27, 2009, 10:09:39 AM
I'm not sure if this is the right thread to post this, but I've got to put it somewhere: http://chud.com/articles/articles/21684/1/THE-DEVIN039S-ADVOCATE-WHY-BREAKING-DAWN-MUST-BE-MADE-INTO-A-MOVIE/Page1.html
Holy Shit...
I'm convinced that Stephanie Meyer inbibed several narcotics and just wrote whatever bollocks came to her head, because she knew the Twilight fans would just buy this regardless. This is just insane... and I so want it to be filmed.
Can you imagine what Taylor Lautner's face must have looked like when he read this?
And what was in that post is only the tip of the iceberg. These books are so horrible. You think the movie is bad? Read the books. In the movies, Bella appears to be a genius when you contrast her to her whiny, emo, spoiled teenage brat of a book character.
I feel cheated because someone told me that Bella becomes a "strong, badass vampire" in the end and she in fact didn't even really change from page 1. She's just Bella, the immortal mopey teen mom now.
After reading that CHUD.com article I googled "Breaking Dawn movie" to see if there was any news about when/if it was going to get made and it turns out they're talking about making it into two movies: http://www.okmagazine.com/2009/12/twilight-saga-bosses-plan-to-make-breaking-dawn-into-two-movies/ (http://www.okmagazine.com/2009/12/twilight-saga-bosses-plan-to-make-breaking-dawn-into-two-movies/)
I must be a masochist.... I just spent $15 on the Twilight DVD so I can see it for the first time.. riffed of course. This is gonna be pain... This is gonna make Glitter, Crossroads, and Grey's Anatomy look like a cake walk... *whimper*
Quote from: Rattrap007 on December 03, 2009, 07:37:59 AM
I must be a masochist.... I just spent $15 on the Twilight DVD so I can see it for the first time.. riffed of course. This is gonna be pain... This is gonna make Glitter, Crossroads, and Grey's Anatomy look like a cake walk... *whimper*
In retrospect, it's better than
New Moon.....
Hardwick at least applied some style to the first film.
Quote from: JimJ on December 03, 2009, 03:22:50 AM
After reading that CHUD.com article I googled "Breaking Dawn movie" to see if there was any news about when/if it was going to get made and it turns out they're talking about making it into two movies: http://www.okmagazine.com/2009/12/twilight-saga-bosses-plan-to-make-breaking-dawn-into-two-movies/ (http://www.okmagazine.com/2009/12/twilight-saga-bosses-plan-to-make-breaking-dawn-into-two-movies/)
Made by the guy who made New Moon no less. I guess we can stop dreaming about the super-crazy adaptation (still gotta hold out for Cronenberg, though).
Quote from: Rattrap007 on December 03, 2009, 07:37:59 AM
I must be a masochist.... I just spent $15 on the Twilight DVD so I can see it for the first time.. riffed of course. This is gonna be pain... This is gonna make Glitter, Crossroads, and Grey's Anatomy look like a cake walk... *whimper*
The Twilight riff is hilarious though, its the only way to watch that dreadfull movie.
It's actually not too bad when you watch it riffed. The commentary keeps you from really thinking too much about what you're seeing and it just comes across as boring.
Twilight as LOLCats. (http://microsuede.blogspot.com/2009/11/movie-review-twilight-saga-new-moon.html)
Quote from: Courtney on December 04, 2009, 01:20:40 PM
Twilight as LOLCats. (http://microsuede.blogspot.com/2009/11/movie-review-twilight-saga-new-moon.html)
That was too cool.... :D
Quote from: Courtney on December 04, 2009, 01:20:40 PM
Twilight as LOLCats. (http://microsuede.blogspot.com/2009/11/movie-review-twilight-saga-new-moon.html)
Love it. A perfect parody. ;)
Quote from: Valinid on December 06, 2009, 12:37:17 PM
Quote from: Courtney on December 04, 2009, 01:20:40 PM
Twilight as LOLCats. (http://microsuede.blogspot.com/2009/11/movie-review-twilight-saga-new-moon.html)
Love it. A perfect parody. ;)
Actually, the cats are better actors.
Quote from: Courtney on December 04, 2009, 01:20:40 PM
Twilight as LOLCats. (http://microsuede.blogspot.com/2009/11/movie-review-twilight-saga-new-moon.html)
Wow. This is Shakespeare in comparison to the real thing. :clap:
Quote from: Valinid on December 06, 2009, 12:37:17 PM
Quote from: Courtney on December 04, 2009, 01:20:40 PM
Twilight as LOLCats. (http://microsuede.blogspot.com/2009/11/movie-review-twilight-saga-new-moon.html)
Love it. A perfect parody. ;)
Really. Although the Three Month Mope here is an exact re-enactment of the film as far as I remember.
BTW, saw some Edward Cullen dolls in the store the other day...think they were the Barbie ones. Amazed they were sitting there unclaimed.
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on December 06, 2009, 07:39:07 PM
Quote from: Valinid on December 06, 2009, 12:37:17 PM
Quote from: Courtney on December 04, 2009, 01:20:40 PM
Twilight as LOLCats. (http://microsuede.blogspot.com/2009/11/movie-review-twilight-saga-new-moon.html)
Love it. A perfect parody. ;)
Really. Although the Three Month Mope here is an exact re-enactment of the film as far as I remember.
BTW, saw some Edward Cullen dolls in the store the other day...think they were the Barbie ones. Amazed they were sitting there unclaimed.
The Suncoast near my house has had a full-sized Edward cardboard cutout sitting around for sale since the first one hit DVD (and the store is even right next to a Hot Topic!). Guess the fanbase draws a line somewhere...
Quote from: Relaxing Dragon on December 06, 2009, 09:59:25 PM
The Suncoast near my house has had a full-sized Edward cardboard cutout sitting around for sale since the first one hit DVD (and the store is even right next to a Hot Topic!). Guess the fanbase draws a line somewhere...
I bet all those shirtless Jacob Black standees are selling like hotcakes.
Quote from: Bob on December 06, 2009, 12:43:03 PM
Quote from: Valinid on December 06, 2009, 12:37:17 PM
Quote from: Courtney on December 04, 2009, 01:20:40 PM
Twilight as LOLCats. (http://microsuede.blogspot.com/2009/11/movie-review-twilight-saga-new-moon.html)
Love it. A perfect parody. ;)
Actually, the cats are better actors.
Your title appears to be Dudley Manlove, with a bunch of nines underneath. Is this a super special title conferred at exactly 9,999 posts?
Yep, and it has the life span of a mayfly.
Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on December 07, 2009, 05:29:30 PM
Yep, and it has the life span of a mayfly.
I'll keep an eye out for that as it approaches....
Quote from: Trumpysgirl on November 18, 2009, 08:41:16 PM
Quote from: iv3rdawG on November 18, 2009, 05:30:12 PM
This is to hold us over until Friday. Maybe the best ending to a scene ever?
Further proof that Bella is a total moron. You cut your finger in a room full of vampires and you think it's no big deal???
My question is why the vampires think they should be going to high school? As if nobody bleeds in high school...
Quote from: Winboloer on December 08, 2009, 08:49:33 AM
Quote from: Trumpysgirl on November 18, 2009, 08:41:16 PM
Quote from: iv3rdawG on November 18, 2009, 05:30:12 PM
This is to hold us over until Friday. Maybe the best ending to a scene ever?
Further proof that Bella is a total moron. You cut your finger in a room full of vampires and you think it's no big deal???
My question is why the vampires think they should be going to high school? As if nobody bleeds in high school...
Imagine being Carlisle at the hospital....major accident comes in...."We've got a bleeder!"
Some gal on my Facebook friends list keeps gushing about Twilight. I have no strong feelings against Twilight, and have in fact defended the movie (not saying it was great, just saying that it's far from the worst thing ever). But I just couldn't stand it any more, and figured I should take her off the news feed for a few weeks.
Rod Hilton brings us another abridged script of the movie:
http://www.cracked.com/article/230_if-new-moon-was-10-times-shorter-100-times-more-honest/
People who've seen it: is it accurate?
Quote from: Relaxing Dragon on December 08, 2009, 10:58:26 AM
Rod Hilton brings us another abridged script of the movie:
http://www.cracked.com/article/230_if-new-moon-was-10-times-shorter-100-times-more-honest/
People who've seen it: is it accurate?
Yep, pretty much spot on.
Quote from: Sicgirl on December 08, 2009, 11:07:37 AM
Quote from: Relaxing Dragon on December 08, 2009, 10:58:26 AM
Rod Hilton brings us another abridged script of the movie:
http://www.cracked.com/article/230_if-new-moon-was-10-times-shorter-100-times-more-honest/
People who've seen it: is it accurate?
Yep, pretty much spot on.
Perfect. Especially these parts.....
Spoiler
QuoteMICHAEL SHEEN
And please send in the huge group of American tourists whose disappearance somewhere in Italy surely won't garner the attention of every major news network.
QuoteGIRLS IN AUDIENCE
(swooning)
No wonder boys hate Twilight! Nobody can be as perfect as Edward!
BOYS IN AUDIENCE
Are you kidding? We love Twilight! It teaches the next generation of women that, the worse their men treat them, the more in love they should be.
GIRLS IN AUDIENCE
You're right! Want to buy me another movie ticket?
BOYS IN AUDIENCE
Buy your own goddamn ticket you stupid cunt.
WOMEN IN AUDIENCE
(swoon)
EDIT: Have to qualify that......Michael Welch's character comes out of this version with 100 times more dignity than he did in the real movie.
I'm just hoping that Avatar will wash away the stench of New Moon's fiscal success when it opens next week.
BTW....those Edward "Twilight" dolls I saw (along with one Bella) - quite a few available. And they're reduced.
Along with some Barbie-sized "Star Trek" dolls of Kirk, Spock and Uhura from the new film....in fact, those are half off (thought that was popular).
Twilight cinema bans fans kissing Robert Pattinson cutout over swine flu fears (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/6742021/Twilight-cinema-bans-fans-kissing-Robert-Pattinson-cutout-over-swine-flu-fears.html)
QuoteA cinema has banned adoring Twilight fans from kissing a cardboard cutout of leading man Robert Pattinson because it could spread swine flu.
Heart-throb Brit actor Pattinson plays the vampire Edward in New Moon, the second film in the Twilight Saga released last month. But a cardboard cutout of the star at the Reel Cinema, in Crewe, Cheshire, has been attracting more than just lusty looks. Fans of the film have been kissing and hugging the life-size likeness.
Now cinema chiefs have slapped a ban on any Pattinson petting because they fear it could spread germs and even swine flu.
A hastily printed notice stuck to the cutout reads: "Please help reduce the spread of germs by refraining from giving Edward, or any other character for that matter, a kiss or a hug."
Management at the cinemas said the popularity of the film with teenage girls had lead to the need to curb some of raging hormones. Cinema supervisor Mandy Taylor, aged 35, of Shavington, said: "We put the sign up because of swine flu. "If people started kissing him it could spread. We have to be more careful now. Robert is a very big hit with the fans. I?m reading the books at the moment and I?m halfway through Eclipse. The films are great, Robert?s character is very sexy."
Managing director Kailash Suri, from Reel Cinemas, said: "The film was so popular that our performances were sold out for the first week. The girls were coming in and having their pictures taken. They were getting a bit carried away and in the nicest possible way we said don't kiss him? The film has such a huge following."
Cinema-goer Emma Hilton, 22, from Crewe, said: "I can understand why some girls might want to kiss the poster, Robert Pattinson is so gorgeous.
"I think it's a bit silly putting a sign on his face though, I can't imagine you can get swine flu from giving him a kiss. I think it's quite funny really and it won't stop me giving him a hug."
I'm not sure which is weirder....
That these Twilight fans can't tell cardboard from a real person (all knocks on Pattinson's acting aside)....
Or that that theater doesn't just take the cutouts out of the lobby....or put them in a roped off area....?
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on December 12, 2009, 09:08:59 AMThat these Twilight fans can't tell cardboard from a real person (all knocks on Pattinson's acting aside)....
I'm guessing most of them do it for a shot at a "hilarious"/"sexy" MySpace pic.
Quote from: doggans on December 12, 2009, 12:58:20 PM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on December 12, 2009, 09:08:59 AMThat these Twilight fans can't tell cardboard from a real person (all knocks on Pattinson's acting aside)....
I'm guessing most of them do it for a shot at a "hilarious"/"sexy" MySpace pic.
That's why God invented Photoshop.
I'm going to speak up and say that the cutouts creep me out.
The Edward Cullen cutout somehow has more depth and life than the character and the actor combined. There's this little >>moment<< of dissonance when I think it's real. *shudder* ._. Its eyes follow me around the FYE store.
I think that Stephenie Meyers is so paranoid about people who don't like Twilight that she's started a campaign to hamper and/or put out of commission any websites or message boards that point out the flaws in her fictional universe. This is a post I wanted to make in a thread concerning the book Breaking Dawn being made into a movie.
I'm betting that the studio heads are trying to figure out how to make Breaking Dawn (It should have been called Breaking Bella for God's sake!!) into a PG-13 movie.
How would I end the Twilight series? Have the original vampire actually be Edward Cullen and everyone can only be saved from these weird, strange events by his death. That way everyone will no longer be vampires after the curse is lifted, not even the Volturi. Bella and Jacob can pick up the pieces together and he can comfort Bella who would still have Renesmee as a reminder of her "love" for Edward while keeping Jacob Black away from that pedophiliac creepiness. Also Edward sacrificing himself to save so many people would be a true testament to his love for Bella. But a writer like Stephenie Meyer wouldn't write such an epic, poetic thing because Bella and Edward are her Mary/Marty Sue/Stu.
I have nothing against any of the actors in these movies. They're just doing their jobs and earning their keep. I just personally think that Twilight is just bland and uninteresting. Edward as a character just isn't what I would think is the perfect male. If anything he's as creepy as a stalker. If I found out a guy was in my room while I was sleeping in my own room or watching everything I did right down to personal things like using the bathroom, I'd consider him a creep regardless of how cute he was. Sad thing is that Stephenie Meyer is perpetuating a dangerous fantasy here. Most teenage girls have not learned what behavioral discernment is and would accept any irrational behavior from a guy because it would remind them of Edward.
Unfortunately, every time I try to post, I keep getting error pages and the boards immediately lag.
Quote from: Draconian Empress on December 14, 2009, 06:18:00 AM
I think that Stephenie Meyers is so paranoid about people who don't like Twilight that she's started a campaign to hamper and/or put out of commission any websites or message boards that point out the flaws in her fictional universe.
Star Trek tried that once....wish her luck with that.
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on December 14, 2009, 06:20:58 AM
Star Trek tried that once....wish her luck with that.
Better watch out! The Twihards, at Stephenie's urging, might come in here in droves to gum up the works. ;)
Quote from: Draconian Empress on December 14, 2009, 06:22:21 AM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on December 14, 2009, 06:20:58 AM
Star Trek tried that once....wish her luck with that.
Better watch out! The Twihards, at Stephenie's urging, might come in here in droves to gum up the works. ;)
Well, Trolls and Freepers are a way of life....
Paramount actually announced that they wanted to sue all websites for using the copyrighted names and terms from the franchise without their permission...and they weren't planning on giving anyone permission, therefore shutting down every Trek site except their own. They claimed it was that they wanted to stop "false rumors" coming out about the movies (seem to remember this was around the time of
Nemesis so you see where that was coming from).
The reaction of the fans put an end to that.
Apologies if someone has already shared this link somewhere on this forum. My attention span is smaller than a flea's of late:
http://twilightsucks.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=fangirls&action=display&thread=5175 (http://twilightsucks.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=fangirls&action=display&thread=5175)
This reeks of a smear compaigne against Twihards. I find it hard to believe 100% of the accounts are true, but if even a few are, how messed up. I hear all day how bad Transformers sucks but it doesn't make me want to resort to violence.
I think I'm a reasonably sensible person, and I've read all 4 Twilight books and enjoyed them thoroughly for what they were: quick, easy reads that did not require much thought but were fun while they lasted. The first movie is downright horrible, thanks especially to two lead actors who have zero chemistry and tremendous lolls in dialogue that I guess were supposed to create dramatic tension or something....I don't know. The Rifftrax of Twilight are one of my favorite Riffs, (especially the part where Bill sings along with the Edward playing the piano.) The second movie, however, is reasonably better. I'm not saying it's a cinematic masterpiece, but it tries to have some action, faster plot development, and more focus on the Jacob character (the only character in the entire series who is genuinely likable and somewhat developed).
I do worry what girls in the tween age range are gleaning from their obsession with Twilight. It's no different, though, than what I grew up with which were animated Disney princesses. Most are the same as the Bella character (if not significantly more cheerful): hollow headed empty vessels that must have an equally personality devoid male to complete their lives. However, while growing up and watching these characters and pretending to be them etc., I did not grow up to think that if a man kidnapped me and locked me in a tower that it must be his psycho way of saying he loved me. Hopefully these girls will be able to understand that Edward and Bella's relationship is simply a work of fiction.
The saddest part is that the whole Twilight thing exists solely into capturing a ripe gender and age group to turn them into compulsive consumers who will buy any crap with a Twilight logo on it. The other day I was in Border's Books and I saw Twilight Brand Packaging Tape. It was like ten bucks. Who the fuck needs Twilight Brand Packaging Tape? It has truly gotten out of hand. But it joins Hannah Montana, High School Musical, the Jonas Brothers, etc. in a marketing machine to take little girl's and parent's money straight out of their pockets. THAT'S the saddest part to me is that they are being led straight into a lifestyle of blind consumption.
Quote from: Tyrant on December 14, 2009, 08:09:34 AM
Apologies if someone has already shared this link somewhere on this forum. My attention span is smaller than a flea's of late:
http://twilightsucks.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=fangirls&action=display&thread=5175 (http://twilightsucks.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=fangirls&action=display&thread=5175)
This reeks of a smear compaigne against Twihards. I find it hard to believe 100% of the accounts are true, but if even a few are, how messed up. I hear all day how bad Transformers sucks but it doesn't make me want to resort to violence.
I have a hard time believing that some of the posts on this board are real, only due to the dialouge: "How DARE you say Twilight is a horrible book!" then attempts to "slit her throat" with a shank at the pencil sharpener??? Also, on Anti-Twilighter compares the Antis to the "Jews" and Twihards to the "Nazis". That is.............just wow.
Quote from: ThatGirlWithTheFreckles on December 14, 2009, 08:34:16 AM
Quote from: Tyrant on December 14, 2009, 08:09:34 AM
Apologies if someone has already shared this link somewhere on this forum. My attention span is smaller than a flea's of late:
http://twilightsucks.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=fangirls&action=display&thread=5175 (http://twilightsucks.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=fangirls&action=display&thread=5175)
This reeks of a smear compaigne against Twihards. I find it hard to believe 100% of the accounts are true, but if even a few are, how messed up. I hear all day how bad Transformers sucks but it doesn't make me want to resort to violence.
I have a hard time believing that some of the posts on this board are real, only due to the dialouge: "How DARE you say Twilight is a horrible book!" then attempts to "slit her throat" with a shank at the pencil sharpener??? Also, on Anti-Twilighter compares the Antis to the "Jews" and Twihards to the "Nazis". That is.............just wow.
Hence my earlier statement. I'm inclined to believe that if all of those accounts were true, it would have little to do with Twilight itself and far more to do with some behavioral issues on the part of the attackers. Defending Twilight would just be an excuse. I'm also betting that if there is any common violence in regards to this series, it's probably in the form of Twilight fan on Twilight fan.
And yeah....I may loathe the Twilight franchise, but I would hardly call Twihards Nazis. I think everyone should meet some actual Nazis before using that term so liberally in situations that don't even deserve it.
Quote from: Tyrant on December 14, 2009, 05:12:40 PM
Quote from: ThatGirlWithTheFreckles on December 14, 2009, 08:34:16 AM
Also, on Anti-Twilighter compares the Antis to the "Jews" and Twihards to the "Nazis". That is.............just wow.
And yeah....I may loathe the Twilight franchise, but I would hardly call Twihards Nazis. I think everyone should meet some actual Nazis before using that term so liberally in situations that don't even deserve it.
Yeah....wiping Anti-Twilight websites off the face of the Earth so that a fan never has to see an opinion that doesn't parrot what they think isn't anything at all like what the Nazis did to Jews...even in the most microscopic way.
???
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on December 14, 2009, 05:35:35 PM
Yeah....wiping Anti-Twilight websites off the face of the Earth so that a fan never has to see an opinion that doesn't parrot what they think isn't anything at all like what the Nazis did to Jews...even in the most microscopic way.
???
Even on a microscopic level these two things are simply incomparable. Twilight is not quite the global crisis that mass genocide is, you know?
Quote from: ThatGirlWithTheFreckles on December 14, 2009, 07:17:12 PM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on December 14, 2009, 05:35:35 PM
Yeah....wiping Anti-Twilight websites off the face of the Earth so that a fan never has to see an opinion that doesn't parrot what they think isn't anything at all like what the Nazis did to Jews...even in the most microscopic way.
???
Even on a microscopic level these two things are simply incomparable. Twilight is not quite the global crisis that mass genocide is, you know?
No one is saying it is. But I guess Fascists are free to be Fascists as long as they don't kill anyone.
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on December 14, 2009, 07:28:26 PM
Quote from: ThatGirlWithTheFreckles on December 14, 2009, 07:17:12 PM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on December 14, 2009, 05:35:35 PM
Yeah....wiping Anti-Twilight websites off the face of the Earth so that a fan never has to see an opinion that doesn't parrot what they think isn't anything at all like what the Nazis did to Jews...even in the most microscopic way.
???
Even on a microscopic level these two things are simply incomparable. Twilight is not quite the global crisis that mass genocide is, you know?
No one is saying it is.
Well... killing off a whole bunch of people is undeniably wrong. Making a whole bunch of people incredibly stupid isn't exactly doing them a favor.
(I know that's not what's being said or implied, I'm just saying.)
Quote from: Tyrant on December 14, 2009, 05:12:40 PM
Quote from: ThatGirlWithTheFreckles on December 14, 2009, 08:34:16 AM
Quote from: Tyrant on December 14, 2009, 08:09:34 AM
Apologies if someone has already shared this link somewhere on this forum. My attention span is smaller than a flea's of late:
http://twilightsucks.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=fangirls&action=display&thread=5175 (http://twilightsucks.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=fangirls&action=display&thread=5175)
This reeks of a smear compaigne against Twihards. I find it hard to believe 100% of the accounts are true, but if even a few are, how messed up. I hear all day how bad Transformers sucks but it doesn't make me want to resort to violence.
I have a hard time believing that some of the posts on this board are real, only due to the dialouge: "How DARE you say Twilight is a horrible book!" then attempts to "slit her throat" with a shank at the pencil sharpener??? Also, on Anti-Twilighter compares the Antis to the "Jews" and Twihards to the "Nazis". That is.............just wow.
Hence my earlier statement. I'm inclined to believe that if all of those accounts were true, it would have little to do with Twilight itself and far more to do with some behavioral issues on the part of the attackers. Defending Twilight would just be an excuse. I'm also betting that if there is any common violence in regards to this series, it's probably in the form of Twilight fan on Twilight fan.
And yeah....I may loathe the Twilight franchise, but I would hardly call Twihards Nazis. I think everyone should meet some actual Nazis before using that term so liberally in situations that don't even deserve it.
Sounds like some of the usual "Distorting Headline to Tie In Tragic Event with Latest Fad" gremplork. It's like when they say "Man shot to death over offensive myspace account" and mention much later in the article that the offensive part was the victim's myspace account boasted of torrid affairs he was carrying on with the shooter's wife, and anyway he found out from a neighbor first.
ThatGirlWithFreckles: Twilight is way more
toxic than those things. At least the Beast locking up Bell was portrayed as wrong, and it was something she did not like about her. Bella falls in love with Edward mainly because of his barely restrained desire to kill her.
Also, you read the fourth book? In my world, "quick easy reads that were fun while they lasted" does not connect with "boy gives his girlfriend a c-section with his TEETH."
Quote from: Tyrant on December 14, 2009, 08:09:34 AM
Apologies if someone has already shared this link somewhere on this forum. My attention span is smaller than a flea's of late:
http://twilightsucks.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=fangirls&action=display&thread=5175 (http://twilightsucks.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=fangirls&action=display&thread=5175)
This reeks of a smear compaigne against Twihards. I find it hard to believe 100% of the accounts are true, but if even a few are, how messed up. I hear all day how bad Transformers sucks but it doesn't make me want to resort to violence.
I'm a member of that message board. ;D
Also, you read the fourth book? In my world, "quick easy reads that were fun while they lasted" does not connect with "boy gives his girlfriend a c-section with his TEETH."
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Violent things happen in books and movies all the time. It is up to the person who is reading them to read them comprehensively. I found them a fun easy read. I'm not defending them to the death or anything, I'm just saying that it isn't the book's fault that people are turning it into a psychotic frenzy. I've read and seen things that include far more unsavory depictions of relationships and life, but in no way do I begin believing that the author is personally telling me how to live my life.
Obviously the girls who are committing these acts (the ones that are true) really need help and I feel sorry that they are so open to imaginary suggestions. But, the problem goes deeper than "they just read Twilight and flipped their wig." These issues existed beforehand and simply blaming a book for their mental instability is an easy cop-out.
Also, the fourth book, should not represent the entire series.
Quote from: ThatGirlWithTheFreckles on December 15, 2009, 03:01:51 PM
Obviously the girls who are committing these acts (the ones that are true) really need help and I feel sorry that they are so open to imaginary suggestions. But, the problem goes deeper than "they just read Twilight and flipped their wig." These issues existed beforehand and simply blaming a book for their mental instability is an easy cop-out.
Quite true. Any more than a couple kids flip out and people want to ban video games... or music... or pretty much you name it.
No one thing someone is exposed to is sufficient to cause them to act bizarrely (unless it is a psychoactive substance [including everything from drugs to heavy metals like lead and mercury], or being raised by psychotic/grossly incompetent parents).
Quote from: LucasM on December 15, 2009, 07:23:19 PM
Quote from: ThatGirlWithTheFreckles on December 15, 2009, 03:01:51 PM
Obviously the girls who are committing these acts (the ones that are true) really need help and I feel sorry that they are so open to imaginary suggestions. But, the problem goes deeper than "they just read Twilight and flipped their wig." These issues existed beforehand and simply blaming a book for their mental instability is an easy cop-out.
Quite true. Any more than a couple kids flip out and people want to ban video games... or music... or pretty much you name it.
No one thing someone is exposed to is sufficient to cause them to act bizarrely (unless it is a psychoactive substance [including everything from drugs to heavy metals like lead and mercury], or being raised by psychotic/grossly incompetent parents).
This isn't people wanting to ban websites because they're afraid of violent repercussions....
This is one hack writer wanting to take away the right of others to criticize her work publicly because it hurts her feelings or her sales or both.
I highly doubt that Stephanie Meyer would ever succeed in shutting down every Anti-Twilight website that exists. And no, I don't agree with her wanting to even do that. As an author she should learn to take criticism, and if reading the criticism affects her personally, she really needs to reevaluate her place in the public spotlight.
Quote from: Draconian Empress on December 15, 2009, 06:58:16 AM
Quote from: Tyrant on December 14, 2009, 08:09:34 AM
Apologies if someone has already shared this link somewhere on this forum. My attention span is smaller than a flea's of late:
http://twilightsucks.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=fangirls&action=display&thread=5175 (http://twilightsucks.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=fangirls&action=display&thread=5175)
This reeks of a smear compaigne against Twihards. I find it hard to believe 100% of the accounts are true, but if even a few are, how messed up. I hear all day how bad Transformers sucks but it doesn't make me want to resort to violence.
I'm a member of that message board. ;D
Would you know if any of those claims are true by chance (by knowing members and/or posting your own incidents)? Honestly not trying to be a jerk, just genuinely curious.
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on December 15, 2009, 07:35:28 PM
Quote from: LucasM on December 15, 2009, 07:23:19 PM
Quote from: ThatGirlWithTheFreckles on December 15, 2009, 03:01:51 PM
Obviously the girls who are committing these acts (the ones that are true) really need help and I feel sorry that they are so open to imaginary suggestions. But, the problem goes deeper than "they just read Twilight and flipped their wig." These issues existed beforehand and simply blaming a book for their mental instability is an easy cop-out.
Quite true. Any more than a couple kids flip out and people want to ban video games... or music... or pretty much you name it.
No one thing someone is exposed to is sufficient to cause them to act bizarrely (unless it is a psychoactive substance [including everything from drugs to heavy metals like lead and mercury], or being raised by psychotic/grossly incompetent parents).
This isn't people wanting to ban websites because they're afraid of violent repercussions....
This is one hack writer wanting to take away the right of others to criticize her work publicly because it hurts her feelings or her sales or both.
Really: if you don't want 'public discourse', don't appear to the public in any way with anything people might want to talk about.
If she really is instigating all this (attempts at banning anti-Twilight sites, etc.), she's FAR more disturbed than her characters. That implies that she feels a Cheney-level desire to control the world's thinking :speechless: ...or else a perception that only damaged little girls who can't deal with thoughts different than their own are her readership (which would say a LOT about who she thinks her readership is)! Unfortunately, if any of the stories are true, she may be right about some of her readership.
Quote from: ThatGirlWithTheFreckles on December 14, 2009, 08:17:59 AM
I think I'm a reasonably sensible person, and I've read all 4 Twilight books and enjoyed them thoroughly for what they were: quick, easy reads that did not require much thought but were fun while they lasted. The first movie is downright horrible, thanks especially to two lead actors who have zero chemistry and tremendous lolls in dialogue that I guess were supposed to create dramatic tension or something....I don't know. The Rifftrax of Twilight are one of my favorite Riffs, (especially the part where Bill sings along with the Edward playing the piano.) The second movie, however, is reasonably better. I'm not saying it's a cinematic masterpiece, but it tries to have some action, faster plot development, and more focus on the Jacob character (the only character in the entire series who is genuinely likable and somewhat developed).
I do worry what girls in the tween age range are gleaning from their obsession with Twilight. It's no different, though, than what I grew up with which were animated Disney princesses. Most are the same as the Bella character (if not significantly more cheerful): hollow headed empty vessels that must have an equally personality devoid male to complete their lives. However, while growing up and watching these characters and pretending to be them etc., I did not grow up to think that if a man kidnapped me and locked me in a tower that it must be his psycho way of saying he loved me. Hopefully these girls will be able to understand that Edward and Bella's relationship is simply a work of fiction.
The saddest part is that the whole Twilight thing exists solely into capturing a ripe gender and age group to turn them into compulsive consumers who will buy any crap with a Twilight logo on it. The other day I was in Border's Books and I saw Twilight Brand Packaging Tape. It was like ten bucks. Who the fuck needs Twilight Brand Packaging Tape? It has truly gotten out of hand. But it joins Hannah Montana, High School Musical, the Jonas Brothers, etc. in a marketing machine to take little girl's and parent's money straight out of their pockets. THAT'S the saddest part to me is that they are being led straight into a lifestyle of blind consumption.
:clap:
They are fun to read. Though I don't quite agree on the Jacob part, he annoyed me. Though Taylor Lautner, who plays him, seems like a good guy.
Stephenie Meyer originally had only two books for the saga, because originally she didn't have a target audience and the second book, a 600-700 page novel that she wrote and gave to her sister, was more like Breaking Dawn than New Moon. It was probably the publishing company that told her that she should make the target audience teens and she should make a couple more.
Quote from: ThatGirlWithTheFreckles on December 14, 2009, 08:17:59 AM
I think I'm a reasonably sensible person, and I've read all 4 Twilight books and enjoyed them thoroughly for what they were: quick, easy reads that did not require much thought but were fun while they lasted. The first movie is downright horrible, thanks especially to two lead actors who have zero chemistry and tremendous lolls in dialogue that I guess were supposed to create dramatic tension or something....I don't know. The Rifftrax of Twilight are one of my favorite Riffs, (especially the part where Bill sings along with the Edward playing the piano.) The second movie, however, is reasonably better. I'm not saying it's a cinematic masterpiece, but it tries to have some action, faster plot development, and more focus on the Jacob character (the only character in the entire series who is genuinely likable and somewhat developed).
I do worry what girls in the tween age range are gleaning from their obsession with Twilight. It's no different, though, than what I grew up with which were animated Disney princesses. Most are the same as the Bella character (if not significantly more cheerful): hollow headed empty vessels that must have an equally personality devoid male to complete their lives. However, while growing up and watching these characters and pretending to be them etc., I did not grow up to think that if a man kidnapped me and locked me in a tower that it must be his psycho way of saying he loved me. Hopefully these girls will be able to understand that Edward and Bella's relationship is simply a work of fiction.
The saddest part is that the whole Twilight thing exists solely into capturing a ripe gender and age group to turn them into compulsive consumers who will buy any crap with a Twilight logo on it. The other day I was in Border's Books and I saw Twilight Brand Packaging Tape. It was like ten bucks. Who the fuck needs Twilight Brand Packaging Tape? It has truly gotten out of hand. But it joins Hannah Montana, High School Musical, the Jonas Brothers, etc. in a marketing machine to take little girl's and parent's money straight out of their pockets. THAT'S the saddest part to me is that they are being led straight into a lifestyle of blind consumption.
I missed that post. And I agree. I have a very intelligent friend (age 28) and she's read all four books. She enjoyed them, and understands that they are a fictional love story, and not meant to represent the 'ideal' for relationships. But she enjoyed them. Doesn't bother me any. And, if my head injuries didn't make reading SUCH a task, I might have given them a try, just to see the actual source material, since generally the books are immeasurably better than any film/TV show made from them.
[And I agree: the Twilight RiffTrax is one of my three favorites.]
Quote from: LucasM on December 16, 2009, 07:50:04 PM
And, if my head injuries didn't make reading SUCH a task, I might have given them a try....
Do you do any better with audio books?
The only trouble with this whole "They're fun to read" thing is...they're just
so badly written. That comment that Bill made in the Rifftrax about "I'm glad they kept all the "okay"'s in"....he wasn't exaggerating. And the exposition isn't much better.
There are lots of "mind candy" books out there (from Trek novels to the Alien series to even a Hellboy novel called, "On Earth As It Is In Hell") that the author will do a good job...either to prove to the publisher that they're that good or just out of a sense of pride...
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on December 16, 2009, 11:24:46 PM
Quote from: LucasM on December 16, 2009, 07:50:04 PM
And, if my head injuries didn't make reading SUCH a task, I might have given them a try....
Do you do any better with audio books?
That's actually a LOT worse. Without the visual in front of me I can't maintain attention on anything more than a few seconds... by mid-sentence listening to a 'monologue' my brain is already off somewhere. So with an audio book, that'd mean I'd have to try to rewind
just a little to catch where I lost the sentence every few seconds (at which point I would have forgotten the context). [A 15 minute phone call generally takes me two DAYS to recover from, for that very reason: the mental energy it takes to force myself to stay focused. So - obviously - I don't talk on the phone much, and never pick up when someone calls me (I let the machine get it). I now average about one personal phone call every month or two (at most: I try to avoid
that much if possible).]
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on December 16, 2009, 11:24:46 PM
The only trouble with this whole "They're fun to read" thing is...they're just so badly written. That comment that Bill made in the Rifftrax about "I'm glad they kept all the "okay"'s in"....he wasn't exaggerating. And the exposition isn't much better.
There are lots of "mind candy" books out there (from Trek novels to the Alien series to even a Hellboy novel called, "On Earth As It Is In Hell") that the author will do a good job...either to prove to the publisher that they're that good or just out of a sense of pride...
The books I've been working my way through (at a rate of roughly 15 pages every week or two) is the
Wild Cards series. [They're like the TV series
Heroes, but with good plots, and no discernable plot
holes.] I'm up to the 12th one... with each book roughly 400 pages, that's a Big Deal for me! However, after one of my favorite main characters was left 'elsewhere' (ambiguated for those having not read the series that might start), the level of 'fun' decreased a tad, but that may have also been because one of the next follow-up books was about a roughly 3-day war, and bored me to tears, as I cared about almost none of the focal characters in it. That one took a
very long time to finish, as the expenditure of energy needed to read something 'not terribly enjoyable' seldom seemed worthwhile to me. But since the series is basically an ongoing history (and because 'incomplete' things now disturb me terribly since the third head injury), I didn't feel comfortable skipping it, particularly once I'd gotten far enough in it to realize that there weren't any characters I gave a $#!† about in it.
Sounds like the Twilight writing would be just as troubling to follow as something I didn't like, even if I did find the ideas 'fun'. Too bad the author didn't collaborate with someone who knew how to put words together. Her saying, "this is what I'd like here," and then the other person actually doing it. At least then detractors could only complain about the content. :D
Quote from: LucasM on December 16, 2009, 07:50:04 PM
I have a very intelligent friend (age 28) and she's read all four books.
Yeah I have a friend who is very clever and cool and still likes them.
If I didn't find her so very cute and cool and generally awesome* I'd rib her a lot more about it but she also knows they're utter crap.
*I tend to lose some of my eloquence when I think about her, she is that cool. :)
Quote from: LucasM on December 17, 2009, 01:31:08 AM
Sounds like the Twilight writing would be just as troubling to follow as something I didn't like, even if I did find the ideas 'fun'. Too bad the author didn't collaborate with someone who knew how to put words together. Her saying, "this is what I'd like here," and then the other person actually doing it. At least then detractors could only complain about the content. :D
I'm amazed the editors let this book be published like this.... Unless they worked their fingers to the bone with her and it
still came out like this? That it was even worse to begin with? :speechless:
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on December 17, 2009, 06:41:28 AM
Quote from: LucasM on December 17, 2009, 01:31:08 AM
Sounds like the Twilight writing would be just as troubling to follow as something I didn't like, even if I did find the ideas 'fun'. Too bad the author didn't collaborate with someone who knew how to put words together. Her saying, "this is what I'd like here," and then the other person actually doing it. At least then detractors could only complain about the content. :D
I'm amazed the editors let this book be published like this.... Unless they worked their fingers to the bone with her and it still came out like this? That it was even worse to begin with? :speechless:
I think they just saw a potential money-making monstrosity and went with it. Given the target audience, they probably figured they could get away with a lot more than usual. But yeah. I think real writers probably really, really,
really hate it when things like this happen. Not out of jealousy (though that depends on the individual writers), but more that they work their asses off to become good writers and struggle for every meager semblence of success and then someone who can't even write comes along and is suddenly making millions because they wrote crap that everyone happens to like. *
*Pak has confirmed this.
Quote from: ThatGirlWithTheFreckles on December 15, 2009, 03:01:51 PM
Also, you read the fourth book? In my world, "quick easy reads that were fun while they lasted" does not connect with "boy gives his girlfriend a c-section with his TEETH."
Violent things happen in books and movies all the time. It is up to the person who is reading them to read them comprehensively.
I found them a fun easy read. I'm not defending them to the death or anything, I'm just saying that it isn't the book's fault that people are turning it into a psychotic frenzy. I've read and seen things that include far more unsavory depictions of relationships and life, but in no way do I begin believing that the author is personally telling me how to live my life.
Obviously the girls who are committing these acts (the ones that are true) really need help and I feel sorry that they are so open to imaginary suggestions. But, the problem goes deeper than "they just read Twilight and flipped their wig." These issues existed beforehand and simply blaming a book for their mental instability is an easy cop-out.
Also, the fourth book, should not represent the entire series.
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Oh, I wasn't trying to connect the dental c-section with the alleged Twilight-fan violence. I was just saying that it kind of contrasts with your statement that
QuoteI've read all 4 Twilight books and enjoyed them thoroughly for what they were: quick, easy reads that did not require much thought but were [/b]fun while they lasted
. x_X Maybe this is a lack of understanding towards the Youth of America Today on my part, but I don't think that getting my belly ripped open by a lover is very fun. (Getting my legs gnawed off and eaten, however, is another story ;) )
and to simul-post:
Hmmm, I guess I only have a couple more weeks for this.......... so here we go.
OMFG!!! I saw New Moon, and it was NOTHING like the book!!! They totally ruined my favourite book EVR!!! Me and my BFF went n saw it, I've totally seen it like nine million HUNDRED times and I looooove how they captured the tension b-tween Bella and Jacob (Team Jacob 4evr!!!) But they totally ruined the story. I hate what they've done with my favourite. I m their biggest fan!!! I have EVRYTHING Twilight. OMG Edward is SO dreamy but I SO want Bella to get with Jacob. He's tha gr8test!!!
HOW DARE YOU RUIN MY BEST FAVOURITE BOOK SERIES MOVIES EVR!!!!
Quote from: Tyrant on December 17, 2009, 07:51:17 AM
But yeah. I think real writers probably really, really, really hate it when things like this happen.
Yes, we do.
Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on December 17, 2009, 03:56:43 AM
Quote from: LucasM on December 16, 2009, 07:50:04 PM
I have a very intelligent friend (age 28) and she's read all four books.
Yeah I have a friend who is very clever and cool and still likes them.
If I didn't find her so very cute and cool and generally awesome* I'd rib her a lot more about it but she also knows they're utter crap.
*I tend to lose some of my eloquence when I think about her, she is that cool. :)
o/` Tripe has a crush. Tripe has a crush. o/` You should push her on the playground then run off giggling.
Quote from: Sharktopus on December 17, 2009, 03:53:06 PM
Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on December 17, 2009, 03:56:43 AM
Quote from: LucasM on December 16, 2009, 07:50:04 PM
I have a very intelligent friend (age 28) and she's read all four books.
Yeah I have a friend who is very clever and cool and still likes them.
If I didn't find her so very cute and cool and generally awesome* I'd rib her a lot more about it but she also knows they're utter crap.
*I tend to lose some of my eloquence when I think about her, she is that cool. :)
o/` Tripe has a crush. Tripe has a crush. o/` You should push her on the playground then run off giggling.
Does she have a little sister?!
Quote from: Sharktopus on December 17, 2009, 03:53:06 PM
o/` Tripe has a crush. Tripe has a crush. o/` You should push her on the playground then run off giggling.
DO NOT!!!! *holds breath till the dinner ladies tell me to cut that out*
Quote from: TheUnabeefer on December 17, 2009, 03:53:58 PM
Does she have a little sister?!
No, she does have two older brothers if that's a good fit for your new 2010 persona ;)
No, unfortunately.... drat.
Quote from: ThatGirlWithTheFreckles on December 14, 2009, 08:17:59 AM
I think I'm a reasonably sensible person, and I've read all 4 Twilight books and enjoyed them thoroughly for what they were: quick, easy reads that did not require much thought but were fun while they lasted. The first movie is downright horrible, thanks especially to two lead actors who have zero chemistry and tremendous lolls in dialogue that I guess were supposed to create dramatic tension or something....I don't know. The Rifftrax of Twilight are one of my favorite Riffs, (especially the part where Bill sings along with the Edward playing the piano.) The second movie, however, is reasonably better. I'm not saying it's a cinematic masterpiece, but it tries to have some action, faster plot development, and more focus on the Jacob character (the only character in the entire series who is genuinely likable and somewhat developed).
I do worry what girls in the tween age range are gleaning from their obsession with Twilight. It's no different, though, than what I grew up with which were animated Disney princesses. Most are the same as the Bella character (if not significantly more cheerful): hollow headed empty vessels that must have an equally personality devoid male to complete their lives. However, while growing up and watching these characters and pretending to be them etc., I did not grow up to think that if a man kidnapped me and locked me in a tower that it must be his psycho way of saying he loved me. Hopefully these girls will be able to understand that Edward and Bella's relationship is simply a work of fiction.
The saddest part is that the whole Twilight thing exists solely into capturing a ripe gender and age group to turn them into compulsive consumers who will buy any crap with a Twilight logo on it. The other day I was in Border's Books and I saw Twilight Brand Packaging Tape. It was like ten bucks. Who the fuck needs Twilight Brand Packaging Tape? It has truly gotten out of hand. But it joins Hannah Montana, High School Musical, the Jonas Brothers, etc. in a marketing machine to take little girl's and parent's money straight out of their pockets. THAT'S the saddest part to me is that they are being led straight into a lifestyle of blind consumption.
I think we would have fewer of these fads if more parents instead of just buying their kids whatever they want when they want it did what my parents did when i was a kid. I had to work doing choice and jobs for people to earn every cent of spending money i ever got. You what? I didn't get into all the fads my friends did. i didn't buy Pokemon cards just because they were popular. i have never had any trouble waiting a year for a video game to come down to $10-$20,and I make sure that i really like something before buying it. Most of the movies,books,games,that i got as a kid i still own because i wasn't about to spend my hard earned money on something just because everyone was buying it.
If kids today had to earn their spending money i don't think they would be buying over priced packing tape with a logo on it.
Quote from: Fuzzy Necromancer on December 17, 2009, 03:50:20 PM
Quote from: Tyrant on December 17, 2009, 07:51:17 AM
But yeah. I think real writers probably really, really, really hate it when things like this happen.
Yes, we do.
I'll confirm that too. And like Tyrant said, not because of jealousy, but because of the effort we put in. But also - for me - because it reduces the standards that people subsequently require in their reading, and well-crafted writing will (further) fall by the wayside. If anyone can slap some shit on a piece of paper (referring to word use, not content, here) and people will pay for it, there will be more of that 'writing'... and actual,
good writing will get lost: as diamonds in the garbage.
I am currently writing a short novel for roughly the same target age group. [
Very different content.] I have such regard for the English language, that I spend a fair amount of time writing and editing even e-mails I send, and posts I put up online (like this: I've run through this 4-5 times editing so that it hopefully expresses
exactly what I intended, and does so smoothly). That's for a couple reasons. One, is head-injury related (I need to make sure that what I think I'm saying is what actually ends up onscreen), but the other is because it allows me even a few sentences/paragraphs more 'practice' writing so that what I write - that I hope one day to get paid for - is the best it can be, and is the most evocative it can be.
Oh... and . . .
Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on December 17, 2009, 03:56:43 AM
Yeah I have a friend who is very clever and cool and still likes them.
If I didn't find her so very cute and cool and generally awesome* I'd rib her a lot more about it but she also knows they're utter crap.
*I tend to lose some of my eloquence when I think about her, she is that cool. :)
"TripeHoundRedux has a girlfriend... TripeHoundRedux has a girlfriend... " :D
But seriously. Yeah, the cool things about the friend I have 'outweighs' anything negative I could think about that could possibly be there with the books. I'm sure there are things that I like that she (and others) would find questionable, too.
Oh, well. It happens.
Of course, by all that, I think we are 'proving the point' of what we all are finding distressing with the reports about 'Twihards' and the 'anti-'s. We are thinking rationally about this. They aren't. But there is a
very good reason for that.
Dr. Daniel Amen is a well-respected Psychiatrist who uses cutting-edge brain imaging to see into the way the
mind works http://www.amenclinics.com/ (http://www.amenclinics.com/). He found that teenagers brains are actually hyperactive and hyper
reactive in areas related to emotion, so they react in extremes (any parents of teens reading that see something familiar?) and they often cannot control their responses because - effectively - their brain won't
let them. So when they get 'overinvolved' emotionally with something like
Twilight (or anything else, it's not vampire-love specific ;) ) their ability to determine what is a 'reasonable' response disappears.
[It also makes it so that their ability to determine what is 'reasonable' writing also disappears... ;D ...because they are too caught up in the emotion from the content to
notice it.]
Oh that reminds me Lucas, I find cognitive processes fascinating (that was my favourite section of my psychology A Level). You said that talking books are harder for you to concentrate on than the book itself. How do you do with dramatizations of books or audio dramas in general?
Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on December 17, 2009, 06:55:47 PM
Oh that reminds me Lucas, I find cognitive processes fascinating (that was my favourite section of my psychology A Level). You said that talking books are harder for you to concentrate on than the book itself. How do you do with dramatizations of books or audio dramas in general?
Since the answer to this had little to do with Twilight: New Moon (other than explaining why I couldn't read it or listen to it on tape), I moved it here: http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php/topic,12482.msg500035.html#msg500035 if anyone's interested in reading the response to this question.
Quote from: LucasM on December 17, 2009, 06:35:36 PM
Quote from: Fuzzy Necromancer on December 17, 2009, 03:50:20 PM
Quote from: Tyrant on December 17, 2009, 07:51:17 AM
But yeah. I think real writers probably really, really, really hate it when things like this happen.
Yes, we do.
I'll confirm that too. And like Tyrant said, not because of jealousy, but because of the effort we put in. But also - for me - because it reduces the standards that people subsequently require in their reading, and well-crafted writing will (further) fall by the wayside. If anyone can slap some shit on a piece of paper (referring to word use, not content, here) and people will pay for it, there will be more of that 'writing'... and actual, good writing will get lost: as diamonds in the garbage.
I am currently writing a short novel for roughly the same target age group. [Very different content.] I have such regard for the English language, that I spend a fair amount of time writing and editing even e-mails I send, and posts I put up online (like this: I've run through this 4-5 times editing so that it hopefully expresses exactly what I intended, and does so smoothly). That's for a couple reasons. One, is head-injury related (I need to make sure that what I think I'm saying is what actually ends up onscreen), but the other is because it allows me even a few sentences/paragraphs more 'practice' writing so that what I write - that I hope one day to get paid for - is the best it can be, and is the most evocative it can be.
Oh... and . . .
Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on December 17, 2009, 03:56:43 AM
Yeah I have a friend who is very clever and cool and still likes them.
If I didn't find her so very cute and cool and generally awesome* I'd rib her a lot more about it but she also knows they're utter crap.
*I tend to lose some of my eloquence when I think about her, she is that cool. :)
"TripeHoundRedux has a girlfriend... TripeHoundRedux has a girlfriend... " :D
But seriously. Yeah, the cool things about the friend I have 'outweighs' anything negative I could think about that could possibly be there with the books. I'm sure there are things that I like that she (and others) would find questionable, too.
Oh, well. It happens.
Of course, by all that, I think we are 'proving the point' of what we all are finding distressing with the reports about 'Twihards' and the 'anti-'s. We are thinking rationally about this. They aren't. But there is a very good reason for that.
Dr. Daniel Amen is a well-respected Psychiatrist who uses cutting-edge brain imaging to see into the way the mind works http://www.amenclinics.com/ (http://www.amenclinics.com/). He found that teenagers brains are actually hyperactive and hyperreactive in areas related to emotion, so they react in extremes (any parents of teens reading that see something familiar?) and they often cannot control their responses because - effectively - their brain won't let them. So when they get 'overinvolved' emotionally with something like Twilight (or anything else, it's not vampire-love specific ;) ) their ability to determine what is a 'reasonable' response disappears.
[It also makes it so that their ability to determine what is 'reasonable' writing also disappears... ;D ...because they are too caught up in the emotion from the content to notice it.]
Yes, and that totally explains why the 30-40 year old women "teenagers" are big fans.
Stop pulling that shit. Everyone likes to oggle teen brains to explain their "abnormality." I think it's dehumanizing and grotesque. Give me a brain scanner and a few hours and I'll find ways to point out how irrational you are. :grr:
Quote from: Fuzzy Necromancer on December 18, 2009, 12:15:05 AM
Quote from: LucasM on December 17, 2009, 06:35:36 PM
Of course, by all that, I think we are 'proving the point' of what we all are finding distressing with the reports about 'Twihards' and the 'anti-'s. We are thinking rationally about this. They aren't. But there is a very good reason for that.
Dr. Daniel Amen is a well-respected Psychiatrist who uses cutting-edge brain imaging to see into the way the mind works http://www.amenclinics.com/ (http://www.amenclinics.com/). He found that teenagers brains are actually hyperactive and hyperreactive in areas related to emotion, so they react in extremes (any parents of teens reading that see something familiar?) and they often cannot control their responses because - effectively - their brain won't let them. So when they get 'overinvolved' emotionally with something like Twilight (or anything else, it's not vampire-love specific ;) ) their ability to determine what is a 'reasonable' response disappears.
[It also makes it so that their ability to determine what is 'reasonable' writing also disappears... ;D ...because they are too caught up in the emotion from the content to notice it.]
Yes, and that totally explains why the 30-40 year old women "teenagers" are big fans.
Stop pulling that shit. Everyone likes to oggle teen brains to explain their "abnormality." I think it's dehumanizing and grotesque. Give me a brain scanner and a few hours and I'll find ways to point out how irrational you are. :grr:
Wow... you seem to have some issues, and quite possibly totally misread/misunderstood what I was writing (possibly because of those issues? I don't know).
You also don't seem to understand how brains develop over time. They change dramatically from about age nine to about age 20 (much like the rest of the body... or don't you believe there are differences happening there, either, during those years?) And no, brain scanner reading can't be 'faked' by people (including you): the areas related to different brain functions 'light up' in different ways, at different times, depending on what people are doing. It is actually rather straightforward. And some of the different parts of the brain have been known to govern different types of activities (such as language, self-control, and strong emotion) for over 100 years.
And just because a pattern of brain function shows up for an age group doesn't mean they are 'abnormal', that was
your word for it, it was
not mine. It just means that's the way they function in that developmental stage. And, simply, teen brains are not as good at modulating strong emotion... or haven't you ever seen or heard of a teenager crying or becoming enraged at its parents or friends for what seems to everyone else a minor event?
And I didn't write
anything about brain function and the quality of the
content of the books. I wrote nothing at all about the storylines in that post. So there was nothing in my post which
could have related to adult fans, which was what you immediately jumped into. My final comment about "reasonable writing" was partly facetious (hence the winking smiley), but it was about the way the words were strung together... it had nothing to do with the plots or characters. The adult readers I've heard from (and about) on this board generally acknowledge poor composition or sentence structure in the books. As far as content? People like what they like, adults or children. I honestly don't give a shit either way what people like, unless they hurt someone else from their preferences...
Which brings me to the point I was making: the thing that "we all are finding distressing with the reports about 'Twihards' and the 'anti-'s" that was what I referred to in the post you took issue with, is the violence and suicidal statements (possibly actions) that has been under discussion for the last page or two of this thread. That is what I was talking about: that these books (like thousands of other things before them) are being 'over-reacted to', and apparently some of that over-reaction is turning violent.
Why?
Because teenagers can't modulate strong emotions. That part of their brains hasn't developed yet. It won't finish developing, according to research, until about age 25. That - not at all coincidentally - is why auto insurance rates go down dramatically at age 25: auto company actuarial research demonstrates that that age group can't modulate its actions well enough to avoid situations that are dangerous until about age 25. Insurance companies aren't trying to 'pathologize' teens, they simply see, through decades of keeping track, that generally people prior to age 25 get in more accidents. Brain science just finally figured out 'why'.
In the future you might do well to find out what someone is actually saying, or learn about what they are discussing, before jumping all over them. It is less than civil, and makes you look bad, or at least, impulsive.
Quote from: LucasM on December 17, 2009, 08:14:58 PM
Or am I misinterpreting what you were asking?
No, that was pretty much it; I wondered if there was a noticeable difference between listening to a single voice reading a text and multiple voices plus sound effects and the like (which makes it a bit more like a movie without picture, I'm at school for sound design so I'm interested from that perspective too).
Interesting stuff. :)
Quote from: Fuzzy Necromancer on December 18, 2009, 12:15:05 AM
Yes, and that totally explains why the 30-40 year old women "teenagers" are big fans.
Stop pulling that shit. Everyone likes to oggle teen brains to explain their "abnormality." I think it's dehumanizing and grotesque. Give me a brain scanner and a few hours and I'll find ways to point out how irrational you are. :grr:
Wow. Getting that worked up about people liking Twilight is just about as sad as people getting worked into a frenzy over liking it.
Also, anyone who denies that teenage brains are "abnormal" and overly emotional obviously doesn't remember being one, or hasn't been around one recently.
Quote from: ThatGirlWithTheFreckles on December 18, 2009, 06:22:48 PM
Also, anyone who denies that teenage brains are "abnormal" and overly emotional obviously doesn't remember being one, or hasn't been around one in recently.
Oh lord. Linkin Park exists because that is true.
Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on December 18, 2009, 04:02:45 AM
Quote from: LucasM on December 17, 2009, 08:14:58 PM
Or am I misinterpreting what you were asking?
No, that was pretty much it; I wondered if there was a noticeable difference between listening to a single voice reading a text and multiple voices plus sound effects and the like (which makes it a bit more like a movie without picture, I'm at school for sound design so I'm interested from that perspective too).
Interesting stuff. :)
Thanks. I suspect we are the only ones here who think so. So I moved my response here, where its more appropriate: http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php/topic,12482.msg500354.html#msg500354
Speaking of Beauty and the Beast and Twilight:
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Quote from: ThatGirlWithTheFreckles on December 19, 2009, 02:07:55 PM
Speaking of Beauty and the Beast and Twilight:
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I think Gaston would be saying that about any book.
Quote from: Draconian Empress on December 21, 2009, 06:13:56 AM
Quote from: ThatGirlWithTheFreckles on December 19, 2009, 02:07:55 PM
Speaking of Beauty and the Beast and Twilight:
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I think Gaston would be saying that about any book.
Very true. :)
Quote from: Hor-RIFF-ic Productions on November 20, 2009, 02:00:39 PM
This little diddy we found pretty much sums up our view of the Twilight phenomenon.
Been away for a little while, but I just wanted to say that this as well as the movie review done a few pages back, is freaking BRILLIANT! LOVE IT!!
Haven't subjected myself to New Moon yet, I'm still getting over the trauma induced by the last one. We shall see though.
Quote from: esoobaC .T bocaJ on November 26, 2009, 04:48:34 AM
I'm gonna end this argument once and for all.
Ladies and Gentlemen, "The Vamp"
http://tantusinc.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TD&Product_Code=VAMP
This is f***ing hilarious!!!!
QuoteAccording to Summit Entertainment's Twitter page, the studio has officially set March 20 as the release date for 'The Twilight Saga: New Moon'. The second movie in this vampire franchise was panned by critics but was a huge box office hit, grossing nearly $100 million more than 'Twilight'. This will be a two-disc special edition.
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=4046
Quote from: iv3rdawG on January 15, 2010, 11:09:14 AM
QuoteAccording to Summit Entertainment's Twitter page, the studio has officially set March 20 as the release date for 'The Twilight Saga: New Moon'. The second movie in this vampire franchise was panned by critics but was a huge box office hit, grossing nearly $100 million more than 'Twilight'. This will be a two-disc special edition.
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=4046
Yeah, I looked at that release date when I was making up my "50 Top Rifftrax Request List"...if it was being released soon enough for the rules of the list.
But this one is a given, so I left it off.
Quote from: ThatGirlWithTheFreckles on December 19, 2009, 02:07:55 PM
Speaking of Beauty and the Beast and Twilight:
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;D Well that made me laugh.
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Are they really calling it a saga? I really don't think it is anything like a saga. Stupid highschool soap is more like it.
I think anyone who would actually go to this movie knows it's part of the series, but I think they had to throw that in there for the 7 idiots across the country who accidentally saw the first one and actually liked it.
Is it just me or do what's her name's teeth make her look like Chipmunk on that cover? After watching the first movie and seeing the adds for the second I have to ask,Does she ever close her mouth?! Even when she isn't talking it just seems to hang open!
Quote from: Doctor Who? on January 15, 2010, 08:59:34 PM
Is it just me or do what's her name's teeth make her look like Chipmunk on that cover? After watching the first movie and seeing the adds for the second I have to ask,Does she ever close her mouth?! Even when she isn't talking it just seems to hang open!
Here teeth remind me of the "Chicklety teeth" riff about Gary Busey in the Point Break Rifftrax.
The fact that they out and out CALLED their own series a Saga in the title amazes me. The Bill and Ted movies were more of a Saga than this flaccid crap!
Quotesa·ga (sä'ga)
n.
1) a. A prose narrative usually written in Iceland between 1120 and 1400, dealing with the families that first settled Iceland and their descendants, with the histories of the kings of Norway, and with the myths and legends of early Germanic gods and heroes.
b. A modern prose narrative that resembles a saga.
2) A long detailed report: recounted the saga of their family problems.
Maybe if we go with definition 2...
Quote from: Doctor Who? on January 15, 2010, 05:41:06 PM
Are they really calling it a saga? I really don't think it is anything like a saga. Stupid highschool soap is more like it.
So you didn't like it then?
Quote from: iv3rdawG on January 15, 2010, 05:28:26 PM
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So are the heaven's gate people big twilight fans? If so that would explain so much about both things.
Quote from: Doctor Who? on January 18, 2010, 11:51:37 AM
Quote from: iv3rdawG on January 15, 2010, 05:28:26 PM
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So are the heaven's gate people big twilight fans? If so that would explain so much about both things.
No, what they beleive is silly. This is very serious.
Quote from: Darth Geek on January 18, 2010, 12:48:18 PM
Quote from: Doctor Who? on January 18, 2010, 11:51:37 AM
So are the heaven's gate people big twilight fans? If so that would explain so much about both things.
No, what they beleive is silly. This is very serious.
Besides, I thought all the Heaven's Gate people committed suicide before these books came out?
Oh, yeah...that's right...people are never persuaded to commit suicide by others. ::)
I only asked because there seem to be so manny of them on the cover.