Peter Jackson to direct "The Hobbit"

[BathTub]

See Isaac thinks Peter Jackson is greedy because he has the ingratitude to actually expect his contract to be honored.  I can just see him frothing with rage at the thought of the Tolkien Estate expecting the same damn thing. Those ingrates! Don't they know they should be thankful for any tiny crumbs that New Line chooses to give them!

[Petey Wheatstraw]

See Isaac thinks Peter Jackson is greedy because he has the ingratitude to actually expect his contract to be honored.  I can just see him frothing with rage at the thought of the Tolkien Estate expecting the same damn thing. Those ingrates! Don't they know they should be thankful for any tiny crumbs that New Line chooses to give them!

The Tolkien Estate and Saul Zaentz were ACTUALLY ripped off by New Line and deserve money. Peter Jackson doesn't because he's already made millions off of this shit when the Tolkien Estate and Zaentz might as well have not received anything at all for the measly amount they were given. WAKE THE FUCK UP. Peter Jackson was NOT owed money. He lied because he IS greedy. You don't see this because you are such a fanboy that you choose to ignore reality. Remember how long he waited to file a lawsuit? Remember how quickly the situation was settled? That doesn't come off as suspicious to you?

[Petey Wheatstraw]

So Isaac, why do you hate Peter Jackson so much?

Did he TP your house or something? Or let the air out of your tires and made you late for work? Does he hide the phone every time you need it?

Because to me, Peter Jackson's movies were a breath of fresh air for me, I finally was able to enjoy some movies with good effects, music, cinematography, and with good writing. He must have done something crazy to make you hate him so much...what do you guys think Peter jackson did to Isaac to warrant such hate?

Sloppy filmmaking and budget over artistic vision is a "breath of fresh are" for you?

Elaborate, c'mon I really am curious...I felt in no way that his movies are sloppy, and there is plenty of artistic vision, sure it doesn't break any new grounds, but he didn't need to.

Artistic vision is not breaking "new ground". It's making a movie for the sake of making a movie, not sloppily putting together a movie and then suing your distributor claiming that you were owed money after receiving the full financial compensation and salary you were contracted. I hate Jackson because he's a greedy hack who cares more about money than quality of cinema or the integrity of Tolkien's writing. He's also a bad liar, claiming that he had never seen the previous adaptations, and then claiming that he saw them but that he didn't think they were good movies, and then claiming that he saw them and loved them and that they inspired him to read the books, which he never did either, as displayed by the incredible reliance on previous adaptations and disrespect for the work.

[BathTub]

See Isaac thinks Peter Jackson is greedy because he has the ingratitude to actually expect his contract to be honored.  I can just see him frothing with rage at the thought of the Tolkien Estate expecting the same damn thing. Those ingrates! Don't they know they should be thankful for any tiny crumbs that New Line chooses to give them!

The Tolkien Estate and Saul Zaentz were ACTUALLY ripped off by New Line and deserve money. Peter Jackson doesn't because he's already made millions off of this shit when the Tolkien Estate and Zaentz might as well have not received anything at all for the measly amount they were given. WAKE THE FUCK UP. Peter Jackson was NOT owed money. He lied because he IS greedy. You don't see this because you are such a fanboy that you choose to ignore reality. Remember how long he waited to file a lawsuit? Remember how quickly the situation was settled? That doesn't come off as suspicious to you?

Hahahahahaha omg Isaac you are so hilarious, so totally insane, thank you for the best laugh I have had in a while. Do you deliberately ignore the facts when you've been proved wrong before or are you truly that forgetful that you can't think straight and bring up the same dumb ass comments over and over again. I think it's already been linked in this thread, but please keep it up, I would love another chance to link to your bitter rantings again.

[Petey Wheatstraw]

See Isaac thinks Peter Jackson is greedy because he has the ingratitude to actually expect his contract to be honored.  I can just see him frothing with rage at the thought of the Tolkien Estate expecting the same damn thing. Those ingrates! Don't they know they should be thankful for any tiny crumbs that New Line chooses to give them!

The Tolkien Estate and Saul Zaentz were ACTUALLY ripped off by New Line and deserve money. Peter Jackson doesn't because he's already made millions off of this shit when the Tolkien Estate and Zaentz might as well have not received anything at all for the measly amount they were given. WAKE THE FUCK UP. Peter Jackson was NOT owed money. He lied because he IS greedy. You don't see this because you are such a fanboy that you choose to ignore reality. Remember how long he waited to file a lawsuit? Remember how quickly the situation was settled? That doesn't come off as suspicious to you?

Hahahahahaha omg Isaac you are so hilarious, so totally insane, thank you for the best laugh I have had in a while. Do you deliberately ignore the facts when you've been proved wrong before or are you truly that forgetful that you can't think straight and bring up the same dumb ass comments over and over again. I think it's already been linked in this thread, but please keep it up, I would love another chance to link to bitter rantings again.

Are you this stupid? Jackson lied. Accept it. Saying that I have been "proved wrong" isn't going to make you as much of a liar as Jackson is. It makes you appear delusional.

[BathTub]

Well done Isaac, keep it up, the thread could use some more humour, please go on.

[Petey Wheatstraw]

Well done Isaac, keep it up, the thread could use some more humour, please go on.

You've already provided enough humor for today. That'll do, dope, that'll do.

[BathTub]

Oh no, the show is only just beginning! And you are the star!

Ladies and Gentlemen, Isaac's finest hour!

It's a particularly sensitive area for Issac because when he was actually challenged to back up anything he said as fact he fell flat on his face in front of everyone so you can understand it's clearly still hurting.

You live in your own little reality, don't you?

Thank you Isaac for giving me invitation to post this. Basically a nice self contained example of how Isaac refuses to let the facts get in the way of his rabid rantings. I recommend people read the whole thread but here is the gist of it.

Spoiler

Lord knows the Wachowskis (The Matrix) sure as hell did in record time.

I'm sorry, but...The Matrix trilogy was a hell of a lot better than Peter Jackson's entire filmography combined. The Wachowskis always knew how to make a great film. Jackson NEVER knew how to make a great film.

I'm so tempted to start a futile argument with you again. Soooooooo tempted. Is the trolling deliberate?

What trolling? I was stating an opinion.

What trolling? I was stating an opinion.

I'm genuinely sorry if i misjudge, but you have to understand, the position that you take on this issue is so isolated and to the extreme that I have trouble reading your post and believeing  it to be anything but an attempt to pick a fight. Having formerly been a moderator on a board where that activity is commonplace, it might just be kneejerk to see that and think "troll", but you have to admit... you are definintely in a very tiny minority of fans who hold the stance you do on the two trilogies.

I'm so tempted to start a futile argument with you again. Soooooooo tempted. Is the trolling deliberate?

Pretty much have to say it's deliberately trolling at this point since he making up some amazing amounts of crap that he knows is complete crap, like in the other studio thread, perhaps he just enjoys the attention he knows he is going to get since he knows people like me have that itch to always correct his mad mutterings.

What "deliberate trolling"? I still cannot understand why this guy is still being taken seriously. I mean...come on. He waited several years, after the movies came out, after the DVDs come out, until when they asked him back to do The Hobbit and then said "no. Pay me more money even though I've already made millions off of this stuff. Gooba gooba goo." His claims simply do not add up. These are facts. Peter Jackson does not look good in this situation.

What "deliberate trolling"? I still cannot understand why this guy is still being taken seriously. I mean...come on. He waited several years, after the movies came out, after the DVDs come out, until when they asked him back to do The Hobbit and then said "no. Pay me more money even though I've already made millions off of this stuff. Gooba gooba goo." His claims simply do not add up. These are facts. Peter Jackson does not look good in this situation.

Please

1) cite sources to back up this opinion

2) explain how this has anything to do with the quality of aforementioned films.

Thanks.

-Chris

A good example, I've already mentioned that the lawsuit was older than the current Hobbit mess, but Isaac chooses to ignore that.

Oh look, I can cite a source

Written in...2005. So what? That's still two more years than he should have waited if New Line actually owed him money. Why would he not mention this earlier, like...before the DVDs came out, before he did all the promotional stuff for New Line? I smell a crock of bullshit.

First, you say that...

He waited several years, after the movies came out, after the DVDs come out, until when they asked him back to do The Hobbit and then said "no. Pay me more money even though I've already made millions off of this stuff. Gooba gooba goo."

Someone posts facts (something you claim to have and have come up empty on) and in response, you say

Written in...2005. So what?

Yeah, don't let those pesky facts get in the way of your hatred.

and again, the subject *was* the quality of the films of the LOTR trilogy until you changed the subject. A subject which, interestingly enough, you don't have the facts straight on and do not understand the full complexity to make a discussion about it.

So, i ask you, AGAIN....

1) cite sources to back up your opinion since you have the market cornered on facts, and all...

2) explain how this has anything to do with the quality of aforementioned films.

I shall sit here, waiting, in what is most probably a futile gesture.

Work it Isaac! Work it! Let that spittle fly! Don't back down when something you said is shown to be clearly wrong!  take that step back and regroup to take another shot.

Why would he not mention this earlier, like...before the DVDs came out, before he did all the promotional stuff for New Line? I smell a crock of bullshit.

lol this is hilarious, please keep it coming, others must be enjoying it as much as I am.

Clearly all accounts are finalized instantly, and then they go to court immediately, of course!

Oh wait, the handling of the manufacture of the dvds is one of the things the lawsuit is about, damn, if only you had actually read the article!

Oh well.

Keep em coming.

I am RIGHT, goddamn it. If you were FUCKING PAYING ATTENTION, you'd clearly see that Jackson's claims are LUDICROUS. Go ahead. Keep ignoring reality. Up is down. Black is purple. Peter Jackson isn't full of shit. Daisies are worth more than gold. Scientology is a religion. Coke is healthier than water. If you set the inside of your nose on fire, you turn into a dragon. Wrong, wrong, FUCKING WRONG.

*sigh*

This is worthless. Isaac, this is how this has gone down:

Isaac: I hate Peter Jackson's films.

Chris: I think you're saying that just to start an argument.

Isaac: No i'm not! Peter Jackson's lawsuit is retarded!

Chris: How is Peter Jackson's lawsuit tied to the quality of his films?

Isaac: Peter Jackson's lawsuit and its timing are totally retarded!!!!

BathTub: Your claims about the timing of the lawsuit are not factual, and here's the proof to show it.

Isaac: Well, Peter Jackson's lawsuit is *still* retarded.

Chris: HOW IS PETER JACKSON'S LAWSUIT TIED TO THE QUALITY OF HIS FILMS???

ISAAC: I CANT HEAR YOU LALALALALALALALA OMG IM RIGHT YOU'RE A MORON

Spoiler'd because it turned out quite long.

Don't worry Isaac, no one expects you to read it anymore, it's clear you haven't actually read anything else.

[Petey Wheatstraw]

Oh no, the show is only just beginning! And you are the star!

Ladies and Gentlemen, Isaac's finest hour!

It's a particularly sensitive area for Issac because when he was actually challenged to back up anything he said as fact he fell flat on his face in front of everyone so you can understand it's clearly still hurting.

You live in your own little reality, don't you?

Thank you Isaac for giving me invitation to post this. Basically a nice self contained example of how Isaac refuses to let the facts get in the way of his rabid rantings. I recommend people read the whole thread but here is the gist of it.

Spoiler

Lord knows the Wachowskis (The Matrix) sure as hell did in record time.

I'm sorry, but...The Matrix trilogy was a hell of a lot better than Peter Jackson's entire filmography combined. The Wachowskis always knew how to make a great film. Jackson NEVER knew how to make a great film.

I'm so tempted to start a futile argument with you again. Soooooooo tempted. Is the trolling deliberate?

What trolling? I was stating an opinion.

What trolling? I was stating an opinion.

I'm genuinely sorry if i misjudge, but you have to understand, the position that you take on this issue is so isolated and to the extreme that I have trouble reading your post and believeing  it to be anything but an attempt to pick a fight. Having formerly been a moderator on a board where that activity is commonplace, it might just be kneejerk to see that and think "troll", but you have to admit... you are definintely in a very tiny minority of fans who hold the stance you do on the two trilogies.

I'm so tempted to start a futile argument with you again. Soooooooo tempted. Is the trolling deliberate?

Pretty much have to say it's deliberately trolling at this point since he making up some amazing amounts of crap that he knows is complete crap, like in the other studio thread, perhaps he just enjoys the attention he knows he is going to get since he knows people like me have that itch to always correct his mad mutterings.

What "deliberate trolling"? I still cannot understand why this guy is still being taken seriously. I mean...come on. He waited several years, after the movies came out, after the DVDs come out, until when they asked him back to do The Hobbit and then said "no. Pay me more money even though I've already made millions off of this stuff. Gooba gooba goo." His claims simply do not add up. These are facts. Peter Jackson does not look good in this situation.

What "deliberate trolling"? I still cannot understand why this guy is still being taken seriously. I mean...come on. He waited several years, after the movies came out, after the DVDs come out, until when they asked him back to do The Hobbit and then said "no. Pay me more money even though I've already made millions off of this stuff. Gooba gooba goo." His claims simply do not add up. These are facts. Peter Jackson does not look good in this situation.

Please

1) cite sources to back up this opinion

2) explain how this has anything to do with the quality of aforementioned films.

Thanks.

-Chris

A good example, I've already mentioned that the lawsuit was older than the current Hobbit mess, but Isaac chooses to ignore that.

Oh look, I can cite a source

Written in...2005. So what? That's still two more years than he should have waited if New Line actually owed him money. Why would he not mention this earlier, like...before the DVDs came out, before he did all the promotional stuff for New Line? I smell a crock of bullshit.

First, you say that...

He waited several years, after the movies came out, after the DVDs come out, until when they asked him back to do The Hobbit and then said "no. Pay me more money even though I've already made millions off of this stuff. Gooba gooba goo."

Someone posts facts (something you claim to have and have come up empty on) and in response, you say

Written in...2005. So what?

Yeah, don't let those pesky facts get in the way of your hatred.

and again, the subject *was* the quality of the films of the LOTR trilogy until you changed the subject. A subject which, interestingly enough, you don't have the facts straight on and do not understand the full complexity to make a discussion about it.

So, i ask you, AGAIN....

1) cite sources to back up your opinion since you have the market cornered on facts, and all...

2) explain how this has anything to do with the quality of aforementioned films.

I shall sit here, waiting, in what is most probably a futile gesture.

Work it Isaac! Work it! Let that spittle fly! Don't back down when something you said is shown to be clearly wrong!  take that step back and regroup to take another shot.

Why would he not mention this earlier, like...before the DVDs came out, before he did all the promotional stuff for New Line? I smell a crock of bullshit.

lol this is hilarious, please keep it coming, others must be enjoying it as much as I am.

Clearly all accounts are finalized instantly, and then they go to court immediately, of course!

Oh wait, the handling of the manufacture of the dvds is one of the things the lawsuit is about, damn, if only you had actually read the article!

Oh well.

Keep em coming.

I am RIGHT, goddamn it. If you were FUCKING PAYING ATTENTION, you'd clearly see that Jackson's claims are LUDICROUS. Go ahead. Keep ignoring reality. Up is down. Black is purple. Peter Jackson isn't full of shit. Daisies are worth more than gold. Scientology is a religion. Coke is healthier than water. If you set the inside of your nose on fire, you turn into a dragon. Wrong, wrong, FUCKING WRONG.

*sigh*

This is worthless. Isaac, this is how this has gone down:

Isaac: I hate Peter Jackson's films.

Chris: I think you're saying that just to start an argument.

Isaac: No i'm not! Peter Jackson's lawsuit is retarded!

Chris: How is Peter Jackson's lawsuit tied to the quality of his films?

Isaac: Peter Jackson's lawsuit and its timing are totally retarded!!!!

BathTub: Your claims about the timing of the lawsuit are not factual, and here's the proof to show it.

Isaac: Well, Peter Jackson's lawsuit is *still* retarded.

Chris: HOW IS PETER JACKSON'S LAWSUIT TIED TO THE QUALITY OF HIS FILMS???

ISAAC: I CANT HEAR YOU LALALALALALALALA OMG IM RIGHT YOU'RE A MORON

Spoiler'd because it turned out quite long.

Don't worry Isaac, no one expects you to read it anymore, it's clear you haven't actually read anything else.

Where have I been proven wrong? All I see is you making up your own little reality and then claiming that I am somehow wrong, when in fact, I am right. Jackson is a greedy prick who lied about being owed money  Get out of your own little Peter Jackson fan-boy world and accept reality.

[BathTub]

Yeah I know I shouldn't pick on the special kid, but he's just so funny.

[Petey Wheatstraw]

Yeah I know I shouldn't pick on the special kid, but he's just so funny.

Hoo boy, it's tough for you to deal with reality, isn't it?

10:00:18 ‹Isaac› De Nile is not just a river in Egypt
06/06/2008 10:00:34 ‹BathTub›
06/06/2008 10:00:52 ‹BathTub› well you would certainly know all about that
06/06/2008 10:01:16 ‹Isaac› Yes, because I am witnessing it.
06/06/2008 10:01:35 ‹Isaac› "Peter Jackson's the greatest and he would never lie to us, no no no."
06/06/2008 10:01:39 ‹BathTub› oh yes, I'm sure you think are
06/06/2008 10:02:54 ‹BathTub› "I think BathTub is the most awesomist hacker ever, he fakes nyt articles and inserts them on their website just to try and fool me!"
06/06/2008 10:03:13 ‹Isaac› I have no idea what you're talking about.
06/06/2008 10:03:34 ‹BathTub› of course you don't, that's the whole point!
06/06/2008 10:03:51 ‹BathTub› you don't read anything that's posted, you just rant and dribble
06/06/2008 10:04:09 ‹BathTub› make up whatever you want to believe, ignoring the facts
06/06/2008 10:04:39 ‹BathTub› people point out your factual errors, you just continue to ignore them and go on ranting
06/06/2008 10:04:56 ‹Isaac› I read everything that's posted. I also know the difference between making up a false reality (Peter Jackson is not as greedy as New Line, who never paid him a cent) due to my overwheliming fanboyism.
06/06/2008 10:05:17 ‹BathTub› everyone else around you gets to watch you flail madly and look like a loon because you refuse to actually acknowledge the truth
06/06/2008 10:05:51 ‹Isaac› Please stop attributing your faults to me.
06/06/2008 10:06:00 ‹BathTub› yes you do know all about false realities Isaac
06/06/2008 10:06:54 ‹Isaac› Yes, because I'm watching one right now: you think that I am behaving the way you do, but in blind hate of Peter Jackson instead of blind admiration.
06/06/2008 10:07:49 ‹BathTub› which one of us has provided an actual link to back up what he's said?
06/06/2008 10:08:17 ‹BathTub› and which one of us refuses to do so?
06/06/2008 10:08:21 ‹Isaac› It's called "reading between the lines". It's so blatantly obvious. Everyone but you can see it.
06/06/2008 10:09:30 ‹BathTub› that's why everyone agrees with you right? no one else ever takes you to task either
06/06/2008 10:09:50 ‹BathTub› reading between the line doesn't mean, making shit up
06/06/2008 10:11:04 ‹Isaac› If you wait for three years to receive financial compensation from a film, you must be really, really patient, or really, really stupid.
06/06/2008 10:11:52 ‹Isaac› I would have sued New Line by the release of the second film, if they had ripped me off.
06/06/2008 10:12:47 * BathTub quit (timeout)

Jackson should have expected payment after the completion of the theatrical run through of Fellowship. Instead, he waited five years to file a lawsuit. Is he retarded, or greedy? I would say that he's greedy, but if you honestly believe that he's retarded....

[BathTub]

Jackson should have expected payment after the completion of the theatrical run through of Fellowship. Instead, he waited five years to file a lawsuit. Is he retarded, or greedy? I would say that he's greedy, but if you honestly believe that he's retarded....

Yes, well done Isaac, Peter Jackson should have demanded his full entitled share of the DVD sales at the end of Fellowships theatrical run.

[Petey Wheatstraw]

Jackson should have expected payment after the completion of the theatrical run through of Fellowship. Instead, he waited five years to file a lawsuit. Is he retarded, or greedy? I would say that he's greedy, but if you honestly believe that he's retarded....

Yes, well done Isaac, Peter Jackson should have demanded his full entitled share of the DVD sales at the end of Fellowships theatrical run.

You will say anything to protect your precious Peter Jackson.  Nice one-sided argument. I present facts, and all you can respond with is "NO NO NO NO NO! PETER JACKSON IS GOD! NOT LISTENING! LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA"?

[ScottotD]

...anyway.

I'm actually annoyed by this news, obviously Guillermo is the perfect choice for the new trilogy but FUCK he's already got 10 to 15 projects up in the air I'm now going to have to wait at least a year for.  I'm thinking of starting a 'Clone Guillermo' fund.

[BathTub]

I present facts

Name a single a fact that you have presented about Peter Jackson and the lawsuit.