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Pacific Rim: The Biggest Giant Monster Movie Ever Made!

Started by Henry88, May 21, 2011, 06:06:32 PM

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Quote from: jonalame on July 14, 2013, 09:44:49 PM
The thing about Hannibal's shoe, is that there is a more significant shoe already in the story, and when... "Charlie" picked up Hannibal's shoe, I guffawed.

It was a nice little comedic parallel. Also, Ron Perlman has enormous feet (or maybe Charlie Day is smaller than I thought).

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Quote from: Relaxing Dragon on July 15, 2013, 12:20:29 AM
Quote from: jonalame on July 14, 2013, 09:44:49 PM
The thing about Hannibal's shoe, is that there is a more significant shoe already in the story, and when... "Charlie" picked up Hannibal's shoe, I guffawed.

It was a nice little comedic parallel. Also, Ron Perlman has enormous feet (or maybe Charlie Day is smaller than I thought).

Probably both.
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Darth Geek

How the fuck does this movie only make 38.3 million in it's opening weekend?! I mean forget about how good a director Guillermo Del Toro is, I know the stupid general public doesn't know that kind of thing. But it's giant robots! yeah, it's silly, but it's exactly the kind of mindless (or in this case, seemingly mindless) action that the general public eats up.
The only thing I can think of is possibly the name, which most people aren't going to know what to make of. And while Idris Alba is popular on TV, and maybe some people remember him from Thor, he's not (yet) a big name draw. It's really sad that such inconsequential things can make such a difference in box office between this and Transformers. Which, despite the quality difference, the public would see as essentially the same.


Nunyerbiz

We may have reached the point of diminishing returns in regards to end of the world CGI wankfests... Had this been made six or eight years ago before all the Transformers movies and Battleship and Skyline and The Day the Earth Stood Still and Cloverfield and Battle for Los Angeles and blah blah blah... then maybe it would have solicited a bit more then a mediocre "meh, been there done that" from the general public.

And nobody gives a shit about the quality of the director when it's giant monster vs giant robot. I just don't envision a reality where millions of moviegoers are sitting at home thinking "god damn, will somebody make a slightly less ridiculously stupid giant monster movie?!?! I have piles of money to throw at them!!!"

Darth Geek

Quote from: Nunyerbiz on July 15, 2013, 09:10:01 AM
We may have reached the point of diminishing returns in regards to end of the world CGI wankfests... Had this been made six or eight years ago before all the Transformers movies and Battleship and Skyline and The Day the Earth Stood Still and Cloverfield and Battle for Los Angeles and blah blah blah... then maybe it would have solicited a bit more then a mediocre "meh, been there done that" from the general public.

And nobody gives a shit about the quality of the director when it's giant monster vs giant robot. I just don't envision a reality where millions of moviegoers are sitting at home thinking "god damn, will somebody make a slightly less ridiculously stupid giant monster movie?!?! I have piles of money to throw at them!!!"
I wouldn't be surprised if Godzilla makes 100 million it's first weekend next year. But that is an established name franchise.


Relaxing Dragon

Quote from: Imrahil on July 15, 2013, 07:18:58 AM
Quote from: Darth Geek on July 15, 2013, 07:15:00 AM
How the fuck does this movie only make 38.3 million in it's opening weekend?! I mean forget about how good a director Guillermo Del Toro is, I know the stupid general public doesn't know that kind of thing. But it's giant robots! yeah, it's silly, but it's exactly the kind of mindless (or in this case, seemingly mindless) action that the general public eats up.
The only thing I can think of is possibly the name, which most people aren't going to know what to make of. And while Idris Alba is popular on TV, and maybe some people remember him from Thor, he's not (yet) a big name draw. It's really sad that such inconsequential things can make such a difference in box office between this and Transformers. Which, despite the quality difference, the public would see as essentially the same.

I felt the same way about John Carter, which I still think is a really fun, well-made and entertaining movie.  Everyone I hear bash it hasn't seen it.

Though John Carter has some serious structural problems (no movie should open with three prologues), among other issues, it's still considerably better than people give it credit for (I saw the thing twice in theaters for good reason). It's not even quite as big a bomb as people make it out to be. It's really quite unfair.

As for this one, it seems to be another case of a geekish niche not connecting with the mainstream. Del Toro is far from a brand name (he's made entirely small movies until not, and isn't well known at all to the movie going public at large), and the property is a bit too "out there" for most. It may be the same (and, well, light years better) than Transformers at the super-basic-concept level, but at least Transformers can ride that wave of nostalgia to get enough people hooked and in.

It's not all bad, of course. The movie opened to about 91 million worldwide, and it's still gotta get released in Asia (where there's a good chance it'll be huge).

Henry88

QuoteNow, media outlets are once again back to calling Pacific Rim a disappointment. But is it really? While the domestic box office tends to drive media headlines, it's the worldwide box office that ultimately determines a movie's success or failure. And the international box office for Pacific Rim tells a much brighter story.

Pacific Rim made $53 million in 38 foreign markets, bringing in a worldwide box office of $91.3 million. While Pacific Rim might have been third at the domestic box office, the film was second at the worldwide box office. Even though Despicable Me won the international box office with $55.7 million and the worldwide box office with $100.5 million, the film was in 50 foreign markets, twelve more than Pacific Rim.

With Pacific Rim yet to open in several important foreign markets, the film could wind up doing extremely well at the international box office, even if it's domestic debut gets labeled a disappointment.

http://comicbook.com/blog/2013/07/14/pacific-rim-worldwide-box-office-tells-a-brighter-story/
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I gave them my money, that should put them over the top.

The Avengers was last theater movie for me.

ihavemyreasons

Talked the wife (who really didn't want to see it) into going to see it with me yesterday afternoon. She loved it. I thought it wss just OK. It was entertaining as far as big budget summer blockbuster flicks go, but far too predictable. I was hoping for either an unexpected clever plot twist or at least a bit more direct links to the Japanese monster flicks that this was a homage to ( an extremely annoying child who appears and acts annoying at inappropriate times or for the monsters and heroes to have Gamara-esqe theme music or for a surprise appearance by an unexpected Inframan-type character). 

Darth Geek

  Thinking back on it, I really appreciate the lack of religion or mysticism in this movie. It is fully SCI-FI from beginning to end. There is not tired religious overtones, or even undertones, here. These characters might practice a religion, might not, BUT THEY KEEP IT OT OF THEIR GODDAMN JOB! I liked that their were churches based on these things, it made sense that people from the general public might respond to these things in such a way. But the people we follow in this movie definitively know where they come from so would do any of that.
  The monsters are science based, not mystical or even really from ancient mythology at all. Had this been a Japanese movie, there would have been eastern mysticism bullshit all over this.
  Not to sound like some atheist, because I'm not. I just hate wishy washy emotional "maybe its this, we don't really know" nonsense in my SCIENCE fiction. No matter how silly the science itself may be.



Darth Geek

In his review of Atlantic Rim, Foy (Dread Central) noted that their mechs should have been called Meisters.


Bob

Quote from: Darth Geek on July 16, 2013, 07:52:39 AM
In his review of Atlantic Rim, Foy (Dread Central) noted that their mechs should have been called Meisters.

And the liquid in their helmets should have been shots.