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Started by Kiiml, December 12, 2006, 07:22:53 PM

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BathTub

Quote from: sarcasm_made_Easy on March 10, 2007, 03:13:55 PM
how much use of BLUE screen did the dark crystal have?
The Dark Crystal? I would think it's pretty minimal since it was a Henson puppet movie.

sarcasm_made_Easy

i remember seeing the making of and there was a lot of blue screen though, at least for things like the backgrounds and what not.

Variety of Cells

Just to stir up some trouble, if a film's camera work looks really cool, that does not mean that the cinematography is necessarily good.  It just means that it's cool looking.  Cinematography is good when it tells the story the best it can.  People just happen to notice the cinematography in 300 because they are doing cool stuff, whereas in most dramas or romantic comedy you aren't going to notice the camera work as much.  That doesn't mean one is better than the other, it just means that one is less noticeable.  And it's my belief that the camera work shouldn't be noticeable.  If it is, then people are conscious that this is a movie, and aren't completely enwrapped in the story and characters of the film.  I haven't seen 300, so I can't say for sure.  But I seriously doubt it will get an award for best cinematography. 

sarcasm_made_Easy

QuoteIf it is, then people are conscious that this is a movie, and aren't completely enwrapped in the story and characters of the film.

I havent seen it either but from what ive been hearing this one needs to SEEM like a movie or else it would be too disturbing.  if this were deadly serious then the violence would be unsettling and not cool.  just imo

Variety of Cells

I agree with you.  But what I was saying was more, if you are thinking "Wow, look at that cool shot, I wonder how they did it.  Did they use a green screen?  Is it CGI?"  Then you aren't thinking "Oh no!  is the main character going to make it?  How can he still be alive?"  And the latter is far more important than the former. 

sarcasm_made_Easy

try to remember WAY WAY back to when the MATRIX first came out what were you thinking when i got released. 

Variety of Cells

"That looks really cool, I wonder how they did that."  I mean, I was involved in the story, and it looks really cool, but it was still needlessly flashy.  That's not necessarily a bad thing.  A movie can be flashy and fun and enjoyable.  But it's just not a sign of excellent cinematography.  Cinematography is great when the images fit the story, and it conveys the correct emotion.  In other words, cinematography is different than special effects. 

sarcasm_made_Easy

agreed, and im thinking 300 might be our new matrix, but like ive said i havent seen it yet. 

Raven

Just wanted to throw my 2 cents in about this one.  Loved the movie from top to bottom.  I'm sorry I missed the fight before.  

Imrahil got way to upset about absolutely nothing and it evolved into a almost hate filled bashing of one another.  I don't understand how someone who refuses to see a movie has any right to say anything at all about it.  And he chose to argue about clothing.  When did this turn into Project Runway?  Last time I checked he wasn't around in the time of Sparta and nobody else here was either.  I don't care if they fought naked or not.  The costuming is always up to the production crew of any movie and if people are dumb enough to take this movie as fact top to bottom then they are an f'n idiot, and therefore Imrahil shouldn't give a damn.  If he's so upset about his future students coming in uniformed and having to "Right more Wrongs," then maybe he shouldn't be teaching anyone.  I'm in school now to become a teacher and call me crazy but I want to TEACH children.  I don't look at it as a crime if they have alternate versions of what is what before they get to my classroom, I'm more concerned with what they leave with.  

If you were to actually SEE the movie there are way more historical inaccuracies that should get you more upset than the characters dressed incorrectly,  I don't see any freakishly deformed hunchbacks running around in droves.   The story was told from an aspect of a folk tale told thru the ages would have been.  That's why the Persian king/god was 8 feet tall and the elephants weren't called elephants.  My point is see the movie,  then bitch about it.  

That being said my one and only criticism of this movie was the choice of the Narrarator.  I think highly of him as an actor but his voice itself doesn't really impact as much as it could have if voiced by another actor.  I realize that the way the movie ended it was necessary to have the actor retelling the tale, but I would have liked fading one voice into the other.  Not that big of a deal but was the only complaint I had about the movie.  At all.  

In the cinematography department, I was reminded a lot of the fight scenes in Brotherhood of the Wolf, which I love by the way.  As far as winning the awards at the oscars I highly doubt that it will even be nominated.  This movie is way to viewer friendly to be taken seriously by the academy.  And it was released way to early in the year for anyone to remember anything that it did.  

torgosPizza

I like how the CNN reviewer ends his critique with:

QuoteBut what does that say about another Greek contribution -- Western civilization?

I disagree with that association - I'm pretty sure our current state of what is democracy / what is a republic is not exactly what they had in mind when they developed the notion.

Phantom of Krankor

I'm happy that this movie is a great movie in its time period unlike crap movies like Troy and Alexander.
I am Ambassador Phantom, from the planet Krankor! I am rapidly approaching your planet... in the warship, which you have just seen. I will arrive tomorrow night at precisely eight o'clock. At that time I shall make my wishes known to you. You will obey them... or die! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

Pak-Man

Quote from: raven166 on March 10, 2007, 06:37:26 PM
 This movie is way to viewer friendly to be taken seriously by the academy.  

I'm gonna cite precidence with LOTR, there. The masses enjoyed it and the acadamy was good to it. It IS a sad state of affairs when we can say, "I don't think the acadamy will consider it. Too many people were able to enjoy it." Bwuh? :^)

Pak-Man

Quote from: Thom_Serveaux on March 10, 2007, 11:31:17 AM
Well all I can say is my impressions were a bit skewed it was due i large part to the way the trailer was presenting the movie.  Basically  the greatest movie of all time.  If I had a dollar for every time I heard a studio make that claim, I'd be extremely wealthy now.....
Isn't it the job of EVERY movie trailer to make you think you're gonna see the greatest movie of all time? Just because it's a commercial for a movie doesn't mean it's not a commercial. :^)

torgosPizza

Merged both 300 Topics into one... less confusing that way.

Pak-Man

Quote from: Phantom of Krankor on March 10, 2007, 03:47:37 PM
BTW, all the women in the audience cheered when the wife stabbed that one guy in the senate room.
That was, perhaps, the coolest part of the movie, and why I urge people to see it in theatres. I haven't seen a movie immerse an entire audience to this extent since Star Wars. People were oohing and ahhing and gasping and cheering and really enjoying the ride. Not enough movies make you do that anymore