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Raven

Quote from: Pak-Man on March 10, 2007, 10:43:36 PM
Quote from: raven166 on March 10, 2007, 06:37:26 PM
 This movie is way to viewer friendly to be taken seriously by the academy.  

I'm gonna cite precidence with LOTR, there. The masses enjoyed it and the acadamy was good to it. It IS a sad state of affairs when we can say, "I don't think the acadamy will consider it. Too many people were able to enjoy it." Bwuh? :^)

Lord of the Rings was a series of books that had been around for quite a while just waiting to be made.  I don't think even 25% of the people watching this movie will have read or even realize that this was a graphic novel first.  That's all.  Lord of the Rings stands out as a separate entity on it's own.  I don't think that it sets any precedent because there isn't any source material on the same scale.  That to me, is the difference. 

SecretAgentSuperDragon

Quote from: raven166 on March 11, 2007, 02:44:45 PM
Quote from: Pak-Man on March 10, 2007, 10:43:36 PM
Quote from: raven166 on March 10, 2007, 06:37:26 PM
This movie is way to viewer friendly to be taken seriously by the academy. 

I'm gonna cite precidence with LOTR, there. The masses enjoyed it and the acadamy was good to it. It IS a sad state of affairs when we can say, "I don't think the acadamy will consider it. Too many people were able to enjoy it." Bwuh? :^)

Lord of the Rings was a series of books that had been around for quite a while just waiting to be made.  I don't think even 25% of the people watching this movie will have read or even realize that this was a graphic novel first.  That's all.  Lord of the Rings stands out as a separate entity on it's own.  I don't think that it sets any precedent because there isn't any source material on the same scale.  That to me, is the difference. 

Except that the credits say: BASED ON GRAPHIC NOVEL BY FRANK MILLER

BBQ Platypus

Saw it yesterday.  It was well-shot, cool, and the action scenes kicked ass.

Major problem:  the dialogue was GOD-AWFUL.  Or rather, the constant corny oratory was god-awful (because it seemed that half their lines were recitations of the worst parts of Braveheart).  I enjoyed it, but I would've enjoyed it more if there had been less yakkin' and more hackin'.

Am I the only one who feels that this movie could've used even MORE violence? 

Then again, they could've revealed some of the more complicated details (i.e. the Spartans stayed to cover the retreat of the rest of the Greeks, of which there were about 5,000-7,000).  Some of them actually would have added MORE heroism to the battle.  Oh, well.  I still got to see an excessive amount of blood, gore, and dismembered bodies.  Yippee! :clap:
Correction: the coat hanger should be upside down.

torgosPizza

Quote from: BBQ Platypus on March 11, 2007, 04:06:25 PM
Am I the only one who feels that this movie could've used even MORE violence? 

No. I made it clear in my post from the other day that I would've sat through at least another hour and a half of people getting stuck, stabbed, sliced apart, beheaded, dismembered and set on pikes. It totally would've made it the best movie ever (even though for me, it comes in pretty high on the list - at least for sheer entertainment factor alone).

And of course the dialogue and "complicated details" were nonexistent - the source is a frank miller graphic novel.

Raven

Quote from: SecretAgentSuperDragon on March 11, 2007, 01:46:25 PM
Quote from: raven166 on March 11, 2007, 02:44:45 PM
Quote from: Pak-Man on March 10, 2007, 10:43:36 PM
Quote from: raven166 on March 10, 2007, 06:37:26 PM
This movie is way to viewer friendly to be taken seriously by the academy. 

I'm gonna cite precidence with LOTR, there. The masses enjoyed it and the acadamy was good to it. It IS a sad state of affairs when we can say, "I don't think the acadamy will consider it. Too many people were able to enjoy it." Bwuh? :^)

Lord of the Rings was a series of books that had been around for quite a while just waiting to be made.  I don't think even 25% of the people watching this movie will have read or even realize that this was a graphic novel first.  That's all.  Lord of the Rings stands out as a separate entity on it's own.  I don't think that it sets any precedent because there isn't any source material on the same scale.  That to me, is the difference. 

Except that the credits say: BASED ON GRAPHIC NOVEL BY FRANK MILLER


I think everyone is capable of reading the credits.  I MEANT if you asked anyone what "300" was before there were any trailers or they were actually in the theater almost nobody could tell you.  If you asked the same people what "Lord of the Rings" was WAY more people would know that.  I'm not an idiot.   

sarcasm_made_Easy

perhaps, but you would still probably be SHOCKED at the number of people who did not know that LOTR was a book as well.  I know i was.

dignan

I thought it was kind of goofy.  I mean, why was Xerxes 10 feet tall?  What was the deal with the guy with the lobster-claw blades for hands?  What purpose would a giant bottomless pit serve aside from shoving Persians into?  That would only come into use at most two or three times a year, I'd imagine.  There'd have to be some other reason to have it there.  Why wouldn't Faramir just shut the hell up? 

It was entertaining, but just...goofy.     

Blueguy

I didn't read through all of the 12 or so pages added in the last 3 days, but did anyone see it on IMAX? 

Me and friend were disappointed with the amount of (fake) grain in the film which I thought was due to blowing the picture up to such a large screen, but he insists no other movies were that grainy.  Turns out there's a new IMAX theater nearby and we're going to go check it out there and see if it's a clearer image.  Well, obviously it'll be clearer, but hopefully less (fake) grain.

dignan

I didn't see it on IMAX, but I noticed a graininess to the film as well.

torgosPizza

I did see it on IMAX, and there was "some" grain in certain scenes. Noticeably one scene where Leonidas was giving a pep talk at night. That was the only real noticeable part, though; the rest of the time it wasn't enough to distract me.

RandyMistie

Quote from: dignan on March 12, 2007, 08:39:08 AM
I didn't see it on IMAX, but I noticed a graininess to the film as well.

Well, I saw it at two different theaters and the first was pristine and looked digital, but the second was a bit... off... I think it was an older projector or a bad copy.  That happens.

STILL ROCKED!  And it cranked out the cash this weekend, my brothers!  Broke records, smashed expecations, CONQUERED!!! 
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Pak-Man

HAIL SPARTA!

(I'm at about 20. How many times have YOU uttered that phrase in the last week? :^)

Blueguy

I wonder if the people who don't notice the grain just aren't noticing it, just aren't aware, or actually did see a cleaner print.  Hearing equally mixed reports elsewhere as well.
 
Right away it was pretty noticable for myself and my friend.  He said he got used to it and didn't notice it after a while.  I got used to it as well, but whenever I took a moment to try and appreciate the scenery, it stuck out like a sore thumb. 

Oh well, 4 of us going to IMAX on Saturday.  Hopefully it's better.

RandyMistie

Quote from: Blueguy on March 12, 2007, 09:15:30 AM
I wonder if the people who don't notice the grain just aren't noticing it, just aren't aware, or actually did see a cleaner print.  Hearing equally mixed reports elsewhere as well.
 
Right away it was pretty noticable for myself and my friend.  He said he got used to it and didn't notice it after a while.  I got used to it as well, but whenever I took a moment to try and appreciate the scenery, it stuck out like a sore thumb. 

Oh well, 4 of us going to IMAX on Saturday.  Hopefully it's better.

Actually, come to think of it, and this is just a subjective note off the top of my head, there is a lot (LOTS) of high-speed photography in the film.  When I think back to films that use high-speed, digital, photography for fight scenes, (Saving Private Ryan, Gladiator, um... can't think of another right now, but I SHOULD be able too, LOL), it does have a grainy look.  That may have been intentional, if what you guys are talking about is what I am thinking of... (wow, what a convoluted sentence!).
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MontyServo

Just got back from seeing this.  I didn't care for it that much. 

By the time the "immortals" showed up (those were the dudes all in black with the silver masks, right?), I was looking at my watch trying to figure out how much time was left.

The whole thing seemed a bit silly to me.  Or maybe that was the point?