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The Dark Knight Rises

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Russell

Quote from: ScottH on June 10, 2011, 10:59:18 PM
Since the end of Dark Knight seemed to suggest the police/public would be against Batman, maybe Catwomen has replaced him in their minds as the saviour of Gotham.
Now THAT would be something to see.

Scribblesense

Quote from: ScottH on June 10, 2011, 10:59:18 PM
Since the end of Dark Knight seemed to suggest the police/public would be against Batman, maybe Catwomen has replaced him in their minds as the saviour of Gotham.

That seems... implausible.

I just can't wrap my head around that.
"Hey, you kids! Those boxes are for shipping! Not for creating a world of pure imagination!"

Russell

Quote from: Scribblesense on June 11, 2011, 06:25:28 PM
Quote from: ScottH on June 10, 2011, 10:59:18 PM
Since the end of Dark Knight seemed to suggest the police/public would be against Batman, maybe Catwomen has replaced him in their minds as the saviour of Gotham.
That seems... implausible.
I just can't wrap my head around that.
I could see it working but it would have to be handled very, very carefully.

Watchman

Quote from: daltysmilth on June 11, 2011, 09:29:08 AM
I guess Nixon's the one, then.

I wonder if they'll cleverly throw in the line "I am not a crook."

Russell

#184
As long as the head villain isn't a bad guy called Bob the Goonie. And yes, the only reason
I even bring him up is because of RoninFox's Avatar.

Darth Geek

Quote from: Scribblesense on June 11, 2011, 06:25:28 PM
Quote from: ScottH on June 10, 2011, 10:59:18 PM
Since the end of Dark Knight seemed to suggest the police/public would be against Batman, maybe Catwomen has replaced him in their minds as the saviour of Gotham.

That seems... implausible.

I just can't wrap my head around that.
That would change her character too drasticly, though. She is a thief primarily, whatever her reasons for it may be, I don't see her getting the city behind her like they did Batman.


Scribblesense

#186
Quote from: Gunflyer on June 11, 2011, 06:36:55 PM
Quote from: Scribblesense on June 11, 2011, 06:25:28 PM
Quote from: ScottH on June 10, 2011, 10:59:18 PM
Since the end of Dark Knight seemed to suggest the police/public would be against Batman, maybe Catwomen has replaced him in their minds as the saviour of Gotham.
That seems... implausible.
I just can't wrap my head around that.
I could see it working but it would have to be handled very, very carefully.

Even if it "works" and titanic effort is put in to make it "fit" within the movie's mythos, it just seems like way too much to swallow - it's too big to be believable. You might as well make Catwoman run for President - sure, you could certainly justify it, and I could suspend my disbelief to allow it, but it would always nag at the back of my mind that it just isn't sane, that it is all literally an act.

Quote from: Darth Geek on June 11, 2011, 09:23:16 PM
That would change her character too drasticly, though. She is a thief primarily, whatever her reasons for it may be, I don't see her getting the city behind her like they did Batman.

Though, upon further reflection - she could be seen as an icon and hero of Gotham without changing her character, if she is portrayed as an outlaw/folk hero ala Wild Bill Hickok, Jesse James, Banksy... not someone you would ever hand the key to the city, but someone you can say you admire to make yourself seem interesting to the opposite sex.

She couldn't be in it for the people of Gotham, but they rally around her anyways - at least when it's popular to do so. She could never be the "hero that Gotham deserves", but maybe she's a hero nonetheless. Maybe (hopefully) Harvey Dent's final criminal acts are revealed to the public, and they begin to doubt those that guard them at night - so they turn to someone who subverts the corrupt and ridiculous government.

She's not a savior, not like Batman so she certainly doesn't "replace" him, she's just an interesting character with attractive ideals in a moment of crisis.
"Hey, you kids! Those boxes are for shipping! Not for creating a world of pure imagination!"

pezdrake

Yes the old "outlaw with a heart of gold" character that is usually portrayed by men.  Could work well.

Starman!

There were a shit ton of people trying out to be extras in Pittsburgh.

Watchman

Quote from: Starman! on June 13, 2011, 02:36:56 PM
There were a shit ton of people trying out to be extras in Pittsburgh.
I wonder how many of them were extras in George Romero's classic zombie films. I was told by a Pittsburgh native that it was once pretty much tradition to be an extra in a George Romero movie. TDKR is probably filling a void for extras stranded by Romero's relocation to Canada.

Are the Chicago natives upset about Nolan shifting to Pittsburgh? I remember Roger Ebert expressing city pride about The Dark Knight being filmed there. I remember some critic said Gotham was a stand-in for NYC, and he was like "No no! Chicago is Gotham City! Suck on it!" (Not those exact words, but the same attitude)

Starman!

I feel like many of the people who tried out are just people who never tried out for the Romero movies, but who knows.

pezdrake

Quote from: Mr. Katonic on June 13, 2011, 09:57:45 PM
Quote from: Starman! on June 13, 2011, 02:36:56 PM
There were a shit ton of people trying out to be extras in Pittsburgh.
I wonder how many of them were extras in George Romero's classic zombie films. I was told by a Pittsburgh native that it was once pretty much tradition to be an extra in a George Romero movie. TDKR is probably filling a void for extras stranded by Romero's relocation to Canada.

Are the Chicago natives upset about Nolan shifting to Pittsburgh? I remember Roger Ebert expressing city pride about The Dark Knight being filmed there. I remember some critic said Gotham was a stand-in for NYC, and he was like "No no! Chicago is Gotham City! Suck on it!" (Not those exact words, but the same attitude)

It's funny, a friend and I argued once about that.  Clearly Metropolis is a stand-in for New York.  He argued that Detroit was the Gotham equivalent, I argued Chicago.  I can see either I guess but as time goes on, I think that Gotham and Metropolis just represent the flip sides of New York City.

Raefire


Russell

#193
That's an EPIC goddamn poster. The third chapter in any series seems to always be the hardest...
and that's our only worry.

D.B. Barnes

Quote from: Gunflyer on July 11, 2011, 11:39:11 PM
That's an EPIC goddamn poster. The third chapter in any series seems to always be the hardest...
and that's our only worry.

Worries aside, is it next summer yet?
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