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Petey Wheatstraw

Quote from: anais.jude on June 10, 2008, 06:59:42 AMSo, Jacob....I have never seen Fritz the Cat....what were the sex scenes like exactly?

Don't make such a big deal about it. It's a representation of an era. Just keep that in mind when you watch the film. There's basically three scenes and some nudity. It's not the main focus of the film. It's a social and political satire. The movie's about the dumb white guys who pretended to care about social change but were mainly in it for the pot and free love, and ended up screwing things up more than they would if they just stayed out of the political atmosphere and instead tried to pick up hippie chicks in the park by pretending to be deeper than they actually are and to have done more than they actually have.
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Quote from: Isaac on June 10, 2008, 07:36:57 AM
Quote from: Jacob T. Caboose on June 09, 2008, 05:30:38 PMThe wait is over

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Fritz the Cat (Isaac)


A persiflage on the protest movements of the 60s. It's hero is the bold and sex-obsessed tom-cat Fritz the Cat, as created by the legendary underground artist Robert Crumb. Quitting university Fritz the Cat wanders through the hash, Black Panther and Hell's Angels scenes to find to himself.



what can one say about the film that caused the character's creator to kill him off? lot's of sex (lots of pointless sex),

It's about the 1960s. Even you would have gotten laid in the '60s.

Quote from: Jacob T. Caboose on June 09, 2008, 05:30:38 PMlots of drugs, but it makes sense because of the time it was, I guess. violent, misogynistic, racist movie,

It's not misogynistic or racist. It's satire.

Actually, Crumb was the misogynistic one. There were a couple of comics that played rape for laughs. Bakshi has a little more...er, well, "humanity" would probably be the wrong word in this instance, but...

There is no racism in Bakshi's films or Crumb's comics. Actually, a lot of black viewers have commented on how accurately Bakshi portrays black life in his films. I think that all you need is to watch the film again after seeing Heavy Traffic and Coonskin.

Quote from: Jacob T. Caboose on June 09, 2008, 05:30:38 PMof course, it might have been in the comics as well. It was interesting to learn that most of the dialogue was recorded on the street, it does give it a greater sense of realism I suppose, and it probably wouldn't have worked as well scripted. I'm sure that for it's time it was a great work of art, but now, I guess I just don't see what's so great about it, same thing goes for Heavy Metal.

I give this a huh? (2/5)

Well, the difference is that most people watch Heavy Metal for the soundtrack and the cartoon tits, but people see Fritz the Cat for the satire and social commentary that you didn't get because you were distracted by the soundtrack and cartoon tits!

Actually, I love Heavy Metal, but Fritz the Cat really is a much better film. The reason why it's aged so well is that it's a satire of a specific period, thus you have to watch it with that period in mind. Another point is that you can draw so many comparisons between the politics and atmosphere of the '60s and that of today, so the film is still really fresh. We need to make a new film in the same style to comment on the political and sexual climates of today. The ideas present in Fritz the Cat could really work in a new story told from a post-AIDS prospective.

By the way, how was the Faygo and Miles Davis' On the Corner? ::)


thanks for the info, not so much the insults, I'm going to save The Faygo and "On the Corner" for last, is that alright? :)
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esoobaC .T bocaJ

Quote from: Isaac on June 10, 2008, 09:20:16 AM
Quote from: anais.jude on June 10, 2008, 06:59:42 AMSo, Jacob....I have never seen Fritz the Cat....what were the sex scenes like exactly?

Don't make such a big deal about it. It's a representation of an era. Just keep that in mind when you watch the film. There's basically three scenes and some nudity. It's not the main focus of the film. It's a social and political satire. The movie's about the dumb white guys who pretended to care about social change but were mainly in it for the pot and free love, and ended up screwing things up more than they would if they just stayed out of the political atmosphere and instead tried to pick up hippie chicks in the park by pretending to be deeper than they actually are and to have done more than they actually have.

there's also the scene at the bar where the crow, in the middle of a conversation, starts to go at it with the woman sitting next to him, I'm not saying it's not a good movie, I'm just saying it's not my kind of movie :)
flesyht etah tsum uoy ,flesyht evas oT

Petey Wheatstraw

Quote from: Isaac on June 10, 2008, 07:36:57 AMIt's about the 1960s. Even you would have gotten laid in the '60s.

Quote from: Jacob T. Caboose on June 10, 2008, 10:18:05 AMthanks for the info, not so much the insults

Just a light joke there, Jake. If I were trying to insult you, I'd have been really offensive. :D

I honestly would have posted that no matter who I was talking to.
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esoobaC .T bocaJ

Quote from: Isaac on June 10, 2008, 10:29:29 AM
Quote from: Isaac on June 10, 2008, 07:36:57 AMIt's about the 1960s. Even you would have gotten laid in the '60s.

Quote from: Jacob T. Caboose on June 10, 2008, 10:18:05 AMthanks for the info, not so much the insults

Just a light joke there, Jake. If I were trying to insult you, I'd have been really offensive. :D

I honestly would have posted that no matter who I was talking to.

oh, alright then :)
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esoobaC .T bocaJ

Quote from: SmilinJackRoss on June 10, 2008, 11:17:20 AM
I started an index for Jacob's ratings here.

cool
so for a complete rating scale
Awesome(5/5)
Whoa(4/5)
Huh.(3/5)
Huh?(2/5)
:gouge:(1/5)

I don't really have a 1/5, that way every movie feels special :)
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mrbasehart

Well maybe we'll have to suggest some  :gouge: movies next time around...   ;D

DarthChimay

Ah, yes... Caligula, or Salo, or Cannibal Holocaust, or Legend of the Overfiend, or Ace Ventura: Pet Detective...

Heck, I'm surprised Felix the Cat didn't get that. Not that he'd cover his eyes in horror, but would just have to keep his eyes open. It was so boring.

Petey Wheatstraw

Quote from: DarthChimay on June 10, 2008, 05:56:58 PMAh, yes... Caligula, or Salo, or Cannibal Holocaust, or Legend of the Overfiend, or Ace Ventura: Pet Detective...

Heck, I'm surprised Felix the Cat didn't get that. Not that he'd cover his eyes in horror, but would just have to keep his eyes open. It was so boring.

Uh-huh? ::)

Considering that he got through the Dawn of the Dead remake without poking his eyes out or falling asleep, I'm sure he'll be okay throughout anything.

(By the way, Caligula was one of my picks for that "greatest movies" mega-list project that was started a while ago here.)
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a pretty girl is like

Quote from: DarthChimay on June 10, 2008, 05:56:58 PM
Ah, yes... Caligula, or Salo, or Cannibal Holocaust, or Legend of the Overfiend, or Ace Ventura: Pet Detective...

Heck, I'm surprised Felix the Cat didn't get that. Not that he'd cover his eyes in horror, but would just have to keep his eyes open. It was so boring.

And Forest Gump.  :gouge:
I'm all out for kicks...and every inch of me spells EXCITEMENT!

Petey Wheatstraw

Quote from: A Pretty Girl Is Like on June 10, 2008, 08:12:48 PM
Quote from: DarthChimay on June 10, 2008, 05:56:58 PMAh, yes... Caligula, or Salo, or Cannibal Holocaust, or Legend of the Overfiend, or Ace Ventura: Pet Detective...

Heck, I'm surprised Felix the Cat didn't get that. Not that he'd cover his eyes in horror, but would just have to keep his eyes open. It was so boring.

And Forest Gump.  :gouge:

So you're Scott's soul mate, huh? ;D
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DarthChimay

Quote from: A Pretty Girl Is Like on June 10, 2008, 08:12:48 PM
Quote from: DarthChimay on June 10, 2008, 05:56:58 PM
Ah, yes... Caligula, or Salo, or Cannibal Holocaust, or Legend of the Overfiend, or Ace Ventura: Pet Detective...

Heck, I'm surprised Felix the Cat didn't get that. Not that he'd cover his eyes in horror, but would just have to keep his eyes open. It was so boring.

And Forest Gump.  :gouge:

At least Forrest Gump had.... um... well, at least it had fewer genital references. A ringing endorsement, to be sure.

Courtney

Quote from: DarthChimay on June 10, 2008, 11:11:50 PM
Quote from: A Pretty Girl Is Like on June 10, 2008, 08:12:48 PM
Quote from: DarthChimay on June 10, 2008, 05:56:58 PM
Ah, yes... Caligula, or Salo, or Cannibal Holocaust, or Legend of the Overfiend, or Ace Ventura: Pet Detective...

Heck, I'm surprised Felix the Cat didn't get that. Not that he'd cover his eyes in horror, but would just have to keep his eyes open. It was so boring.

And Forest Gump.  :gouge:

At least Forrest Gump had.... um... well, at least it had fewer genital references. A ringing endorsement, to be sure.

And yet lest we forget the film I've been championing since day one.

Quote from: Courtney on May 16, 2008, 07:58:47 AM
two viewings of The Crush.

You'll gouge your eyes out then shove them back in and weep with love.



DarthChimay

Quote from: Courtney on June 10, 2008, 11:41:49 PM
Quote from: DarthChimay on June 10, 2008, 11:11:50 PM
Quote from: A Pretty Girl Is Like on June 10, 2008, 08:12:48 PM
Quote from: DarthChimay on June 10, 2008, 05:56:58 PM
Ah, yes... Caligula, or Salo, or Cannibal Holocaust, or Legend of the Overfiend, or Ace Ventura: Pet Detective...

Heck, I'm surprised Felix the Cat didn't get that. Not that he'd cover his eyes in horror, but would just have to keep his eyes open. It was so boring.

And Forest Gump.  :gouge:

At least Forrest Gump had.... um... well, at least it had fewer genital references. A ringing endorsement, to be sure.

And yet lest we forget the film I've been championing since day one.

Quote from: Courtney on May 16, 2008, 07:58:47 AM
two viewings of The Crush.

You'll gouge your eyes out then shove them back in and weep with love.

It had me at 1 viewing.

Though, the bee bit? Totally stolen from Sleepaway Camp. Not that that's a bad thing.