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OMG! 300!

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Quote from: PSLOwner on August 05, 2007, 05:07:51 PM
Quote from: Tony Farms AKA Puma Man on August 03, 2007, 07:49:32 AM
300 made me want to break out my Man-O-War Anthology!



I was going to pray that you mad that in Photoshop, but is probably real.

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Looks like their glamour shots pictorial they all gave to their wives.
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AARH!!!

I've got a couple of their 'Cassettes'!

Weren't they Ranked in the Guiness Book of World Records for The Fastest Music Band On Earth??

Just Some Guy

Quote from: ObscureGamer on August 05, 2007, 03:44:15 PM
I was too busy asking myself "What the hell is that half-man, half-lobster thing?" to feel much in the way of sadness.
I mean, seriously.  There's that thing decapitating the officers who "failed" Xerxes, and he looks like a really fat Yellow
Bastard from Sin City, with lobster claws for arms.  What the hell?  Is Frank Miller just trying to be weird for the sake
of weird, or what's the story there?  If Xerxes had a race of super lobster men, it was pretty stupid of him to not use them
in battle.
I don't think it was a race of super lobster men, just one guy who was way too into body piercing.

Cosmic Muse

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Quote from: Just Some Guy on August 05, 2007, 03:41:52 PM
Not really.  The film was set up to drag an emotional reaction out of people.  It does mean that you're a bit more susceptible to cinematic tricks than some people, but that means you just need to watch more movies and learn to understand the techniques that they're using instead of getting therapy.  As a bonus that means you can also watch tear-jerkers and not cry (though it will increase your eye-rolling).


Or maybe it just means I'm a woman. :p It's natural for us to cry when we watch something with this sort of emotionally charged passion. It's rare an action movie illicits this sort of reaction from me because most of the time the way it's written, it doesn't allow you to really 100% sympathize with the characters. With 300 the Spartans were fighting to keep their homeland and their families who were their future free from tyranny. I've been reading up alot on the Spartan culture and they were quite ahead of their time. Women were given just about as many rights as he men were. In fact Spartan men respected all of their female counterparts. But I digress.

P.S. I was thinking, recounting in a fictionalized way the Battle of Plateae, the battle that won the second Greco-Persian war for the Greeks, would make an awesome idea for a sequel to 300.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Plataea
Being a genocidal maniac is not one of my turn ons.

Is it weird to hear the Safety Dance in my head watching Game of Thrones?

ObscureGamer

Quote from: Lady_Decepticon on August 06, 2007, 05:35:07 AM
Quote from: Just Some Guy on August 05, 2007, 03:41:52 PM
Not really.  The film was set up to drag an emotional reaction out of people.  It does mean that you're a bit more susceptible to cinematic tricks than some people, but that means you just need to watch more movies and learn to understand the techniques that they're using instead of getting therapy.  As a bonus that means you can also watch tear-jerkers and not cry (though it will increase your eye-rolling).


Or maybe it just means I'm a woman. :p It's natural for us to cry when we watch something with this sort of emotionally charged passion. It's rare an action movie illicits this sort of reaction from me because most of the time the way it's written, it doesn't allow you to really 100% sympathize with the characters. With 300 the Spartans were fighting to keep their homeland and their families who were their future free from tyranny. I've been reading up alot on the Spartan culture and they were quite ahead of their time. Women were given just about as many rights as he men were. In fact Spartan men respected all of their female counterparts. But I digress.

P.S. I was thinking, recounting in a fictionalized way the Battle of Plateae, the battle that won the second Greco-Persian war for the Greeks, would make an awesome idea for a sequel to 300.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Plataea


SPOILER ALERT -  The Spartans win.   


I fail to see how such a sequel would be entertaining, since the battle was so short and one-sided.   The reason 300
didn't show you any of the Battle of Plataea is because not only was it painfully obvious that the Greeks won, but also because
it wasn't nearly as heroic or inspiring as the "Greek Alamo" where Leonidas gave his life.  Still, Frank Miller went for
testosterone in lieu of heartbreak, since if he wanted to make it sad, he would have shown how badly mutilated Leonidas's
body was by the Persians (he was decapitated, and otherwise mangled up into pieces).  It was not until quite a while after
Leonidas's death that his body was able to be recovered.  The Spartans, one of the most stalwart and manly peoples that
ever lived, actually wept openly during the funeral procession of Leonidas which was delayed due to his missing body.
That tells you something about how much they loved their king, for a people so anti-emotion to actually sob.

Just Some Guy

Quote from: ObscureGamer on August 06, 2007, 01:28:14 PM
Quote from: Lady_Decepticon on August 06, 2007, 05:35:07 AM
P.S. I was thinking, recounting in a fictionalized way the Battle of Plateae, the battle that won the second Greco-Persian war for the Greeks, would make an awesome idea for a sequel to 300.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Plataea


SPOILER ALERT -  The Spartans win.   
The Athenians might disagree with you on that.

Cosmic Muse

Quote from: ObscureGamer on August 06, 2007, 01:28:14 PM
SPOILER ALERT -  The Spartans win.   


I fail to see how such a sequel would be entertaining, since the battle was so short and one-sided.   The reason 300
didn't show you any of the Battle of Plataea is because not only was it painfully obvious that the Greeks won, but also because
it wasn't nearly as heroic or inspiring as the "Greek Alamo" where Leonidas gave his life.  Still, Frank Miller went for
testosterone in lieu of heartbreak, since if he wanted to make it sad, he would have shown how badly mutilated Leonidas's
body was by the Persians (he was decapitated, and otherwise mangled up into pieces).  It was not until quite a while after
Leonidas's death that his body was able to be recovered.  The Spartans, one of the most stalwart and manly peoples that
ever lived, actually wept openly during the funeral procession of Leonidas which was delayed due to his missing body.
That tells you something about how much they loved their king, for a people so anti-emotion to actually sob.

There's so much more of a tale you could tell in a sequel than just the story of the victory at Plateae. The general's name escapes me, but historically an Athenian general rallied for the rest of Greece to get up off their lazy asses and do something about the invading Persians. Both he and Leonidas were in close communications with each other I believe. After Plateae this general was exiled though through his machinations the Persians were repelled and Greece remained a free state. Plus actionwise you could show hoew nt just the Spartans fought in this second Greco-Persian war. In 300 they make no reference to the 700 Thespians who stayed behind to fight with Leonidas and his Spartans. And I think it would be a good idea to mention, perhaps through the Athenian general himself, how Xerxes defiled Leonidas' remains to further cement this character as a villain, perhaps due to his anger at how many soldiers he and his troops had eliminated, historically two of which were his own blood kin.
Being a genocidal maniac is not one of my turn ons.

Is it weird to hear the Safety Dance in my head watching Game of Thrones?

ObscureGamer

I think the problem is that you're describing would be more of a historical film, while 300 was not so much a historical
film as it was a pulp-noir film, in the same vein as Sin City and pretty much everything else Frank Miller has done.
It sounds like a plausible idea for a good movie, but I don't think Frank Miller would want to do it, and "300 2" is just
a silly-sounding title.

gammer

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