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Fantastic Four Rise Of The Silver Surfer

Started by MontyServo, June 16, 2007, 07:36:39 AM

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Junkyard

You... don't have a natural fear of tuning forks?

Sharktopus

Quote from: Fuzzy Necromancer on June 24, 2007, 01:07:49 PM
Quote from: Sharktopus Prime on June 22, 2007, 09:12:13 PM
Quote from: Junkyard on June 22, 2007, 09:07:54 PM
I didn't observe the "perception based appearence" thing in any comic I've ever read. Ever. And I've read FF books form almost every period. I'm not saying it couldn't be, I'm just saying that it may be an obscure thing. I'm willing to bet that if G turns out not to be the cloud, he'll still be pretty vauge when he's shown.

I believe the concept comes from the Marvel handbook, and not from any actual comic, but it helps me accept the big guy's appearance, so I go with it. On the other hand, I've yet to hear a good explanation for why Norrin rides a surfboard through space beside "Jack thought it'd be cool." He was right, of course, but it doesn't make sense.

But if that's true, why exactly would people percieve in incarnation of destruction, entropy, and cosmic hunger as some giant guy with a purple helmet?

I dunno. Why are God and the Devil (and similar analogous beings from numerous faiths and mythologies) almost always depicted as humanoid?

RobtheBarbarian

Quote from: Sharktopus Prime on June 24, 2007, 03:39:06 PM
I dunno. Why are God and the Devil (and similar analogous beings from numerous faiths and mythologies) almost always depicted as humanoid?

Short, non-pretentious answer: because the concept of an almighty being is a lot less attractive to most people if, when they ask their holy man what their god is like, the holy man just shrugs and says "Eh. Your guess is as good as mine."

Sharktopus

Quote from: RobtheBarbarian on June 24, 2007, 07:05:38 PM
Quote from: Sharktopus Prime on June 24, 2007, 03:39:06 PM
I dunno. Why are God and the Devil (and similar analogous beings from numerous faiths and mythologies) almost always depicted as humanoid?

Short, non-pretentious answer: because the concept of an almighty being is a lot less attractive to most people if, when they ask their holy man what their god is like, the holy man just shrugs and says "Eh. Your guess is as good as mine."

That would be a refreshingly honest answer.

oorat

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Quote from: Fuzzy Necromancer on June 24, 2007, 01:07:49 PM
Quote from: Sharktopus Prime on June 22, 2007, 09:12:13 PM
Quote from: Junkyard on June 22, 2007, 09:07:54 PM
I didn't observe the "perception based appearence" thing in any comic I've ever read. Ever. And I've read FF books form almost every period. I'm not saying it couldn't be, I'm just saying that it may be an obscure thing. I'm willing to bet that if G turns out not to be the cloud, he'll still be pretty vauge when he's shown.

I believe the concept comes from the Marvel handbook, and not from any actual comic, but it helps me accept the big guy's appearance, so I go with it. On the other hand, I've yet to hear a good explanation for why Norrin rides a surfboard through space beside "Jack thought it'd be cool." He was right, of course, but it doesn't make sense.

But if that's true, why exactly would people percieve in incarnation of destruction, entropy, and cosmic hunger as some giant guy with a purple helmet?


Because an inherent trait of humanity is the sense of irony, the most ironic thing that could possibly end our world is a giant guy with a purple helmet.

Tripe

Ok am I the only one who finds smutty amusement in the phrase "Purple Helmet"?

Just checking cause you know it might explain Galactus' grumpy nature; his helmet is permenently purple.

Just me then?

Nunyerbiz

#96
You are not alone TripeHound... I am either confident enough in my sexuality or buried somewhere way on a back shelf of the closet to where I also get a little chuckle out of "purple helmet".  Anyways... I know I'm a couple of weeks and seven forum pages behind the curve... but oh well...

I saw it this weekend and I enjoyed it for the most part. Much like the first movie, just some good clean fun. I thought the Surfer was done very well both in CGI and voice acting... The Alba / whatshisname romance stuff was a bit wonky, two empty test tubes have more chemistry. Still, while the script wasn't mindblowing, it was servicable. Chiklis and Evans still seem to be really enjoying themselves... and even Dr.Doom is a little better this time around. Sure, a lot of proceedings probably don't hold up under intense scrutiny... but I wasn't going into this with the intention of picking it apart. It was a consistently enjoyable ride that didn't insist on overloading things with superfluous filler... unlike most of the other "blockbusters" I've seen this summer. It's hardly perfect... but it was what I expected... A fun way to spend 90 minutes on a Sunday afternoon.

Junkyard

I dunno. Regarding chemistry between Surfer and Sue, I think they played it pretty well. Awkward, sad, with a somewhat dry affection. Plus, what kind of chemistry can you expect between two people from different planets? For all we know, her natural scents reminded him of space cheese.

Tripe

Quote from: Junkyard on June 25, 2007, 12:03:45 PM
For all we know, her natural scents reminded him of space cheese.

And we're back to the purple helmet. :D

Junkyard

It's true, this movie was a 2 hour innuendo created by sick minds. They should be ashamed of themselves!

Junkyard

Oh, and I just found this. Kinda funny:
http://comic.legendaryfrog.com/

It brings up another perversion- The Silver Smoothness (and I'm not talking personality.)

Sharktopus

Quote from: Nunyerbiz on June 25, 2007, 08:06:03 AM
The Alba / whatshisname romance stuff was a bit wonky, two empty test tubes have more chemistry.

Quote from: Junkyard on June 25, 2007, 12:03:45 PM
I dunno. Regarding chemistry between Surfer and Sue, I think they played it pretty well. Awkward, sad, with a somewhat dry affection. Plus, what kind of chemistry can you expect between two people from different planets? For all we know, her natural scents reminded him of space cheese.

I'm pretty sure Nunyerbiz meant the relationship between Jessica Alba as Sue and Ioan Gruffudd as Reed. They have zero chemistry, just like in the comics!

Junkyard

There have been a few moment in the comics, but yeah: The first 30 years of their relationship have basically been the story of Brainiac and June Cleaver's marrige.

Nunyerbiz

Wait... so June Cleaver had two husbands!??! I always thought that perfect housewife bullshit was too good to be true... this whole time leading a double life behind Ward's back with Brainiac... I don't know what I believe anymore....

Anyways, yea... I was referring to Sue / Reed. I should have used character names in the first place to avoid confusion... but in general I'm bad with names... even one that just rolls off the tongue like "Ioan Gruffund"... If I didn't know better, I would think he was somebody I bought potions from in Ironforge...


Hebs

Quote from: Sharktopus Prime on June 26, 2007, 02:04:36 AM
Quote from: Junkyard on June 25, 2007, 12:03:45 PM
I dunno. Regarding chemistry between Surfer and Sue, I think they played it pretty well. Awkward, sad, with a somewhat dry affection. Plus, what kind of chemistry can you expect between two people from different planets? For all we know, her natural scents reminded him of space cheese.
I'm pretty sure Nunyerbiz meant the relationship between Jessica Alba as Sue and Ioan Gruffudd as Reed. They have zero chemistry, just like in the comics!

That Legendary Frog comic was great - I loved the stuff they posted on NewGrounds a few years ago :D

It seems no matter how fancy the special effects get, superhero movies are still prone to that lame "You are pretty, as am I, let's get together." sentiment.

(HA! Nunyerbiz, he was playing JUMBLE and just decided "Gruffund... yeah.. that's like 40 points - my new stage name!")
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