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Ghostbusters the reboot (2015)

Started by Henry88, March 19, 2014, 05:19:39 PM

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Quote from: MightyBombJack on May 19, 2016, 01:26:17 PM
After giving this a bit more thought, even if his stated reasons for boycotting the new Ghostbusters movie aren't misogynistic ones (and he may very well turn out to be right that it's not a good movie), I'm not sure that the AVGN and others would have such an religious fundamentalist-like reaction to it if the ghostbusters were all male. [Insert link to thinkpiece that articulates that idea better than I can right now.]

Read an article that stated as such. This quote from it was interesting

Quote".... All this extraneous sexist nonsense means it has to be undeniably as funny as one of the most beloved comedies ever made. Or else. And the 'or else' here is serious business. Specifically, it means it will be even harder for women to anchor tentpole movies or head comedies... It's already an environment in which CBS reportedly declined to pick up a Nancy Drew because it 'skewed too female.' Where the concerns of a toy company changed the sex of a Marvel villain. And on and on. It's an impossible situation.'

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ghostbusters-mess-did-come-154501954.html

Darth Geek

I have no doubt that if this new Ghostbusters turns out to be bad, as it looks like it will, it will have nothing to to with the gender of the cast.

It is an interesting thing to note, though, that while the cast is all female they don't seem to be overtly sexualized. The outfits are still unflattering jumpsuits. You would think if this was the kind of studio mandated executive type thing that they'd be in form fitting costumes with lots of cleavage and showing more skin. Ironically, if that were the case I wonder if some of the guys that are actually sexist would be complaining less about this movie.


Edward J Grug III

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ScottotD

Quote from: Edward J Grug III on May 25, 2016, 07:31:01 PM
http://www.avclub.com/article/ghostbusters-frozen-and-strange-entitlement-fan-cu-237139

SO GOOD.

Sums it up so well "but... but... kids will think this is what Ghostbusters is!" uh huh, so what? just because it's got the same name as a thing you like doesn't mean you own it or it will always be targeted at you.  Get over yourself
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"A thing I like that there was no chance would ever continue until recently is now continuing but it doesn't meet my exact personal specifications so fuck this"

- how I read any complaint about MST3k (or Star Wars or Ghostbusters)

RoninFox

Yeah, shared that on Facebook as soon as I read it. Very well put.
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MartyS (Gromit)

Is this still an issue?  Move on already!

Seems odd that the outrage over someone saying they are not going to watch a movie because they love the original is higher than the outrage over the idiot MRAs that want it boycotted because girls are ruining everything...

I could see poking fun at someone having a single above average comedy movie as their most treasured childhood memory, but that should only last a day or 2.



Pak-Man

There seems to be a very dedicated group of people who always be sure to click the angry response whenever Ghostbusters is mentioned on Facebook.

BathTub

Quote from: MartyS (Gromit) on May 26, 2016, 08:50:38 AM
Is this still an issue?  Move on already!

Seems odd that the outrage over someone saying they are not going to watch a movie because they love the original is higher than the outrage over the idiot MRAs that want it boycotted because girls are ruining everything...


Yeah a lot of people are happy to cash in on the faux outrage train on a relatively benign 'I don't plan to watch this'. Today one of my facebook friends made 'a big brave post' about how they were still going to watch the new Ghostbusters, so take that haters! And I was like come on, no one on your facebook page was telling you not to go see it, stop feeding the stupid trolls and making them more important than they really are.

Edward J Grug III

I don't think it's higher, and I think it's all part of the same issue.
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ScottotD

Quote from: MartyS (Gromit) on May 26, 2016, 08:50:38 AM
Is this still an issue?  Move on already!

Seems odd that the outrage over someone saying they are not going to watch a movie because they love the original is higher than the outrage over the idiot MRAs that want it boycotted because girls are ruining everything...


It's usually the same group
Scottotd on Instagram

"A thing I like that there was no chance would ever continue until recently is now continuing but it doesn't meet my exact personal specifications so fuck this"

- how I read any complaint about MST3k (or Star Wars or Ghostbusters)

MartyS (Gromit)

 I suppose the video guy could be lying about Ghostbusters being his favorite and it's really an MRA agenda, but I haven't seen anyone calling him out for any previous MRA stuff.   I think I've only seen a few of his reviews in the past so can't really judge for myself.

Maybe people who were teenagers after 1990 just don't have favorite childhood stuff?  Has the radical drop in attention span killed that off?  There seems to be a lot of people that don't understand not wanting to watch something that won't be fun and only make you wish it was something else.  Calling that an entitlement is completely wrong.

At least this reboot doesn't use the same character names with new actors or blow up your favorite alien world, so it's not as egregious as some other reboots...  >:D 

Edward J Grug III

Ghostbusters being his favourite movie doesn't enter into it though. It's not his. It's not even a niche thing, it's Ghostbusters.

The clown is judging a movie he hasn't seen, and making a six minute video saying he refuses to watch it. Did he do one for RoboCop? Total Recall? Point Break? No, just the one that stars women.
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MartyS (Gromit)

Quote from: Edward J Grug III on May 26, 2016, 11:18:05 PM
Ghostbusters being his favourite movie doesn't enter into it though. It's not his. It's not even a niche thing, it's Ghostbusters.

The clown is judging a movie he hasn't seen, and making a six minute video saying he refuses to watch it. Did he do one for RoboCop? Total Recall? Point Break? No, just the one that stars women.

What do you mean by "it's not his"?  Not a movie he loves?  I thought that's what he was going on about at one point.  If it is a movie he loves then how can it not enter into it?   Has he ever said those 3 movies were movies he loved?

Edward J Grug III

Quote from: MartyS (Gromit) on May 26, 2016, 11:36:03 PM
Quote from: Edward J Grug III on May 26, 2016, 11:18:05 PM
Ghostbusters being his favourite movie doesn't enter into it though. It's not his. It's not even a niche thing, it's Ghostbusters.

The clown is judging a movie he hasn't seen, and making a six minute video saying he refuses to watch it. Did he do one for RoboCop? Total Recall? Point Break? No, just the one that stars women.

What do you mean by "it's not his"?  Not a movie he loves?  I thought that's what he was going on about at one point.  If it is a movie he loves then how can it not enter into it?   Has he ever said those 3 movies were movies he loved?

It's not his in that he doesn't own it. It belongs to everyone.

The original Ghostbusters isn't going away! He will ALWAYS have the Ghostbusters he loves.

It doesn't have to be one of those three - look at his movie collection - a movie he loves has been rebooted at some point. In fact, I guarantee you he LOVES a movie that is a reboot.
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ScottotD

Quote from: MartyS (Gromit) on May 26, 2016, 11:10:48 PM
Maybe people who were teenagers after 1990 just don't have favorite childhood stuff?  Has the radical drop in attention span killed that off?  There seems to be a lot of people that don't understand not wanting to watch something that won't be fun and only make you wish it was something else.  Calling that an entitlement is completely wrong.

I don't understand your opening statement. Everyone has favourite childhood stuff I'm sure, I have a tonne of favourite childhood stuff.  Ghostbusters is part of my favourite childhood stuff but I understand a new or sequel to Ghostbusters doesn't need my approval or even to be aimed at me at all, Ghostbusters doesn't owe me anything just because I'm a fan of it. 
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"A thing I like that there was no chance would ever continue until recently is now continuing but it doesn't meet my exact personal specifications so fuck this"

- how I read any complaint about MST3k (or Star Wars or Ghostbusters)