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Captain America 3 - Civil War TEAM SPOILERS

Started by Kete, October 14, 2014, 08:33:24 AM

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Darth Geek

Quote from: ScottotD on May 06, 2016, 08:46:47 AM


Dream MCU spinoff is now Agent Koenig,
YES! A whole army of Patton Oswalts!


Darth Geek

I had a great time with it, absolutely loved it. I was really impressed how it juggled so many characters so well, even with the introduction of Spider-Man and Black Panther. It also did a much better job than I thought it would at keeping the two sides of the issue believable.

That being said, I still had a HUGE problem with the very presence of General Ross. When he was showing the Avengers the footage of destruction caused by unregulated actions, I noticed the rather conspicuous lack of footage from The Incredible Hulk where HE WAS RESPONSIBLE for the destruction of Harlem and likely the death of many people! Certainly the death of quite a few soldiers. Seriously, I just wanted one of the Avengers to walk up to him at that moment and just say "This is how I prove I'm a good guy. I defeat villains." AND RIP ROSS' FUCKING HEAD OFF! This character should be dead or rotting in the worst prison imaginable! Not given even more political power. We saw what he did when he authority before.
That being said, I always hated General Ross in the comics for exactly the same reason. So kudos for adapting the character accurately.


Kete

Ok kids. This is a spoiler thread now. Go crazy.

Darth Geek

I did think it was funny that Captain America's last line in the movie made them sound like the A-Team.


Edward J Grug III

Loved it! This is what happens when you carefully build a cinematic universe and don't try to shoehorn in everything. There was a lot going on, and a lot of characters, but everything worked.

Loved it!

I've mentioned my Marvel dream move already - To launch a horror wing of the universe, Man-Thing, Simon Garth the Living Zombie, Tomb of Dracula/Blade, Ghost Rider, Werewolf by Night. But another cool obscure character I think would be great is Terror Inc. "an eternal entity that absorbs the talents of others through their dismembered limbs." David Lapham wrote two mini series starring him a few years ago now - The first one was excellent - The second one was really bad.
FINE

Kete

Loved the huge Ant-Man. I'm just a little bugged that it was spoiled by a LEGO set. Get it? A little bug?

ScottotD

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ScottotD

Oh, that came out before? I thought 'set' meant the film set and you thought it looked blocky or something

Is the Ant-Man big or are the other characters smaller? do they make big Lego people often now because I'd buy a bunch
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"A thing I like that there was no chance would ever continue until recently is now continuing but it doesn't meet my exact personal specifications so fuck this"

- how I read any complaint about MST3k (or Star Wars or Ghostbusters)

Relaxing Dragon

Overall I liked the movie quite a bit, which is saying something considering I wasn't really liking it for the first 45 minutes or so. The action was too close and shaky (something I expected better out of for these directors, considering the stellar fight scenes in Winter Soldier), it felt more like a general bunch of "And then this happened" scenes, and that great Marvel charm wasn't really there. Luckily once they reached Berlin things started to pick up, the humor flowed better (everything that happened between Bucky and Sam in the VG Bug was pure gold). The actual plot set up also took a while to get going, but this I appreciated more. It really made the overall movie work better to get both Steve and Tony's points of view across, as well as the rest of the team members as they start choosing sides.

For all the characters and arcs it brought to the table (for real, just about everyone got an arc), the movie walked that tightrope of being overstuffed-but-manageably-so just fine. All the new characters were very well done (Black Panther in particular), and all the familiar faces where in high form. Beyond Spider-Man, I wasn't actually sure who else would be showing up, so it was a great surprise when Ant-Man showed up. His constant geeking out was great ("Here's your shield, Captain America" was a perfectly delivered line), and for real, Giant Man. I didn't know it was coming, and it was beautiful when it did.

The central airport fight was fantastic. Perfect blending of all the characters together and big action moments. Sure, it had way too many of those looks-too-fake greenscreen backgrounds (in fact, the movie was overloaded with them), and there wasn't a lot of great justification for some characters (*cough**cough*Spider-Man) to even be there, but that's okay, because damn if it all just didn't work and flow so, so well. It would've been hard to top that action, so the movie played things smart and made the climactic, headlining fight a much more personal and brutal one. Loved that the movie was playing us all along with the Super Soldier Death Squad, only for the villain's master plan to be a much smaller, more personal one. In fact, I'd go as far to call this the best villain in the MCU, all things considered. No grandiose schemes or supervillain stylings, just an ordinary man who snapped after too much collateral damage fell on him. Definitely plays in great with how the whole MCU has been shaping over the past few movies, with that very idea of collateral damage coming to center stage.

As usual for an MCU movie, it all ends with us waiting to see what happens next, but it's set up for some darn interesting ideas. Solid movie through and through in the meanwhile, and I'm eager to watch it again.

Kete

Quote from: ScottotD on May 07, 2016, 08:59:02 AM
Oh, that came out before? I thought 'set' meant the film set and you thought it looked blocky or something

Is the Ant-Man big or are the other characters smaller? do they make big Lego people often now because I'd buy a bunch

Everyone else is normal size except for the tiny Ant-Man standing in front of Bucky.  I think I've seen a large figure built out of little pieces before, but I'm not sure where.  They have a bunch of over-sized figures that are not made up of LEGOs that you can buy as clocks.  Those are cool, but not as cool as this Ant-Man.

I bought this Wonder Woman for my wife for Christmas.  It's maybe 9 inches tall.

Quantum Vagina

I really loved the movie. It managed to be a CapAm movie, but also worked extremely well as a sequel to Age of Ultron. I've not been so thrilled with the big action sequence of a movie since maybe the first Avengers.

The biggest thing that I had a hard time dealing with was I didn't know WHO to root for in any fight scene. I loved Tom Holland's Spider Man, though i still think Toby MacGuire was the best Spidey we've seen so far, and I'm sad that those movies aren't a part of the MCU. That final fight between Bucky and Cap and Iron Man was heartwrenching. It was amazong and super sad at the same time.

Pak-Man

Yeah, this might be my new second-favorite Marvel movie (After Guardians).

And boy, this movie REALLY wanted you to know what country every scene was in.

goflyblind

was the redhead named 'dot' that bucky was trying to win a bear for an agent carter reference?
dF = 0
d*F = J

Johnny Unusual

I saw it last night and it was really good.  The airport fight was truly amazing and though the stakes are high, it never forgets that superheroes fighting superheroes is a lot of fun to watch, especially when done this well.  Makes me feel bad that I missed Ant-Man in theatres, too (I'll get around to it).  Really looking forward to the Black Panther movie too.  Watching the trailers, I was afraid he wasn't going to do any talking this time around and essentially present him as a "mysterious figure who doesn't get anything revealed about him till he gets his own movie" and I'm real glad that wasn't the case.  T'Challa gets his own complete journey.  In fact, despite the large cast, I think they handle it all really well, even better than in Age of Ultron.  Man, Marvel has a hell of a stable of actors now and they are using them well.  Now I'm excited for Ragnarok (and, of course, Doc Strange).

I will also say there are a couple of plot twists that caught me genuinely off guard.  Though I suspected that