Batman VS Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)

[Kete]

Afflek was our first clue...or third or fourth clue.

[MightyBombJack]

'Batman v Superman' Draws Mixed Reviews: Overly Serious, Not Enough Wonder Woman

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/batman-v-superman-draws-mixed-877635?facebook_20160323

"The film is only slightly more pessimistic than Lars von Trier's 'Antichrist.' You'd have to go back to Mel Gibson's 'Passion of the Christ' to find this much Christian iconography wedded to this much sadism."

[Edward J Grug III]

Wow, it's doing much worse critically than I thought it would. Hope people wise up and stop going though, or else the movies will continue in the same way.

[Kete]

Wow, it's doing much worse critically than I thought it would. Hope people wise up and stop going though, or else the movies will continue in the same way.

But they don't ever blame the right thing.  They won't say, "Man, we should have made a better movie". They'll say, "See!  That's why you don't make a Wonder Woman movie".

[Darth Geek]

So are the people that liked Man of Steel also liking this movie?

[ScottotD]

Afflek was our first clue...or third or fourth clue.

Affleck was most of what the movie had going for it. 

[MightyBombJack]

Yikes, is it really this ugly of a movie?

http://www.filmfreakcentral.net/ffc/2016/03/batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice.html

I'm not one to pearl-clutch about superhero movies being "dark" and inappropriate for children and all of that (I enjoyed Deadpool and Nolan's Batman trilogy a lot and have read Watchmen and The Dark Knight), but it does pain me a little bit thinking of kids like my superhero-loving nephew being taken to see this. Sounds a lot like a Superman/Batman movie for the Trump era (Zack Snyder apparently wants to make a movie adaptation of Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead next).

(I am a little confused by the writer's somewhat odd comment that 9/11 was only the second use of weapons of mass destruction over a civilian area.)

[Rainbow Dash]

[stethacantus]

Just read that Den of Geek review, and it makes me wonder:

Of all the superhero movies that have come out in the past few years (with the possible exception of Ant-Man and Iron Man 3, which I haven't seen yet)...why is there some kind of idea to make us fear and loathe superheroes lately?  Everything seems to be about how none of the people granted superpowers have any business using them and should be shunned and thrown into a cell somewhere, or regulated by the government into oblivion.  The only one that was happy and not ashamed of it was Guardians of the Galaxy, and that was about young Han Solo teaming up with a tree, a raccoon, and two green people to save the world because no one else can.  Even if Marvel seems happy and joyful on the surface, most of the time the movies get downright depressing.  It's almost like we shouldn't be rooting for them anymore because they're all brooding jerks without an ounce of joy in their souls.

In short, where's Frank Gorshin in a bowler when you need him?

Hollywood loves a formula. For so long the formula was to emulate the 60's Batman television series, and turn your superhero movie into a tongue in cheek comedy. Even Tim Burton's dark Batman films had their fair share of comedy.  Punisher ( 1989 ) and Captain America were the only exceptions, and neither one got a release. Batman & Robin ( 1997 ) was the movie that came the closest to being like the Batman television series, and it tanked the Batman movie franchise. The formula failed. A few years later X-Men ( 2000 )  was released and was a huge success. Suddenly the superhero film had a new formula. Be like the X-Men movies. Much like the comic book, the X-Men movies had a government that did not trust mutants and sought to legislate them, or take their powers away. That mistrust in enhanced abilities transferred to the other superhero films.

[ScottotD]

To me the worst part of Batman vs Superman maybe not being good is that all the "WAAAH! BATFFLECK!" dickbags will be smug

[Darth Geek]

Considering that the reviews I've read all say that Wonder Woman is the highlight of the movie, I hope they still go ahead with her solo movie at least.

[ManUnderMask]

Considering that the reviews I've read all say that Wonder Woman is the highlight of the movie, I hope they still go ahead with her solo movie at least.

Wonder Woman and Shazam are the only two DECU movies I want to see, and I want to see Shazam only because The Rock is Black Adam.

[ScottotD]

I'm surprised DC don't do more with Captain Marvel, he's basically Peter Parker who becomes Thor. 

[Edward J Grug III]

Wow, it's doing much worse critically than I thought it would. Hope people wise up and stop going though, or else the movies will continue in the same way.

But they don't ever blame the right thing.  They won't say, "Man, we should have made a better movie". They'll say, "See!  That's why you don't make a Wonder Woman movie".

Maybe, but they'll eat those words when Captain Marvel comes out.

[Edward J Grug III]

Afflek was our first clue...or third or fourth clue.

Affleck was most of what the movie had going for it.

You saw it? Or you're going from reviews?

Personally I can't think of a Ben Affleck movie I care for. Maybe Smokin' Aces, but it's almost as terrible as it is good...