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X-men sync issues!

Started by MrTorso, September 23, 2006, 12:28:12 AM

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MrTorso

THERE WERE NONE!!

This was the best re-author ever. Every single sync line was NUHS-ink!  I had to do no audio manipulation whatsoever. Did you guys do anything different in the making of this rifftrax at all? If you did keep it up!


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gammer

I havent had any sync issues since after STV was released.

I think changing the files to 44.1 KHz helped. I also wonder if they are mixing these up to the movie audio like you and I are doing to see how in sync they are before they're releasing them??

Variety of Cells

I agree.  I used Sharecrow to play X men and it stayed in sync the whole time.  Each Disembaudio line was right on the mark. 

MrTorso

Quote from: gammer73 on September 23, 2006, 05:13:34 AM
I havent had any sync issues since after STV was released.

I think changing the files to 44.1 KHz helped. I also wonder if they are mixing these up to the movie audio like you and I are doing to see how in sync they are before they're releasing them??

There were a few times with Cocktail and Crossroads and xXx where I had to adjust the audio by a few frames here and there but this is the first one where I didn't have to do anything other than line up the first line and go. It was an awesome surprise!

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Conor

Glad to hear there were no issues this time around everybody.  When we record a RiffTrax, we of course use the video of the movie to synch it up perfectly.  It's part of our timeline, so when you rewind the audio, the video goes with it.  So The audio is always in synch with the video, since they're locked into the same timeline.  Drift starts to happen when you separate the two and introduce the variables of dvd player speed, drive speed, mp3 player, layer changes, etc into the mix.  It really hasn't been as big a problem as we feared in the first place, and I'm glad it's close to non existent these days.

MrCyNic

I'm still finding drift a pretty persistent issue with the PAL releases, with each Rifftrax ending up a fairly reliable 5 seconds out of synch by the end of a movie (assuming I don't correct it as I go along).

That said, ever since the guide to getting Rifftrax working with Sharecrow appeared on their site, I've found that to be a very good solution.

Cheers,

Cy.

gammer

What about that Rifftrax player that I saw someone advertise in General chat? Does it work?

Variety of Cells

It works, but it still drifts.  and It's harder to correct on the fly, in my opinion. 

mrbasehart

Quote from: gammer73 on September 23, 2006, 04:09:27 PM
What about that Rifftrax player that I saw someone advertise in General chat? Does it work?

It works really well, actually.  The movie does drift, but I''m guessing that might be because of the PAL/NTSC differences.  Correcting it was tricky at first, but when you know which one to pause, it's easy.

Conc

Sharecrow was specifically designed to play back Rifftrax, without any loss in sync.  It works on both the NTSC and the PAL versions of the disk.  That's because Sharecrow lets you stretch or squeeze the .mp3 to correctly sync up with the disk.


The_Flash

Quote from: gammer73 on September 23, 2006, 05:13:34 AM
I havent had any sync issues since after STV was released.

I think changing the files to 44.1 KHz helped. I also wonder if they are mixing these up to the movie audio like you and I are doing to see how in sync they are before they're releasing them??

I really haven't had any trouble syncing the tracks when reauthoring (including the early Road House track), although I did notice the switch to 44.1 kHz as well.  When converting my RiffTrax to wav for syncing I always output to 48kHz which is what the audio from a DVD track is stored at.  I was actually wondering why the original RiffTrax weren't encoded at this rate, but I'm sure there is a technical reason behind it that I've overlooked.

LadyKenobi

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This is so odd... I'm having the opposite experience.  For the first several tracks I had very little trouble.  But starting with STV, I began to experience marked drift.  X-Men was very difficult in the first several scenes; many pauses were required.  Top Gun got so out of hand I actually had to restart from one of DA's lines.  I have no idea what might be going on. 

MrTorso

Quote from: The_Flash on October 06, 2006, 05:39:42 AM

I really haven't had any trouble syncing the tracks when reauthoring (including the early Road House track), although I did notice the switch to 44.1 kHz as well.  When converting my RiffTrax to wav for syncing I always output to 48kHz which is what the audio from a DVD track is stored at.  I was actually wondering why the original RiffTrax weren't encoded at this rate, but I'm sure there is a technical reason behind it that I've overlooked.
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I know in Goldwave when I resample to 48 it tells me that I can't save it as a mp3 at that rate and I would have to choose another format.

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gammer

Quote from: LadyKenobi on October 06, 2006, 12:41:29 PM
This is so odd... I'm having the opposite experience.  For the first several tracks I had very little trouble.  But starting with STV, I began to experience marked drift.  X-Men was very difficult in the first several scenes; many pauses were required.  Top Gun got so out of hand I actually had to restart from one of DA's lines.  I have no idea what might be going on. 

Did you use different equipment for each viewing?

LadyKenobi

Nope.  SSEDSM (same shitty equipment, different shitty movie.)