Rifftrax - please stop with the transgender "jokes"

[Smith Dr John Smith]

Please don't mistake my making light of this on a comedy site for hate. Far from it,if anything the fact that there are people who are either in so much pain,so confused,or so lost in their sin that they spend huge amounts of money and go through a lot of pain and the end result is not only that they changed who God created them to be but have also but up a huge wall between themselves and Jesus makes me want to cry. Like gays they have lost their purpose and and put up and wall that will keep them cut off from God and keep them from finding their true purpose. Hate isn't how to respond,if I hated them I would pretend that what they are doing is okay and that there is nothing wrong with it and leave them lost,instead I will keep telling them that they are cutting themselves off and that there is a path back to God,Jesus made it. They may be so lost that they will not take it and they may get mad at me for saying it but this isn't about me this is about saving souls.  Not all things that happen are good but all things do work together for good for them that love the lord and those who are called to his purpose.  It has taken me pretty much all of my life to learn this so I can't imagine what it is like for some one who has not heard it,but now that I am learning it there is peace and nothing offends me any more.  Sorry I'll clear out now but I just felt that needed to be explained.

You don't have to be perfect to have fellowship with God(David after all was a man after God's own heart)you just have to admit your sins to him,let Christ's blood wash them away,and then let your love of Jesus for what he did keep you from doing it again.  I admit it is a hard live long lesson(that every single person has to spend their whole live learning and I am very much an example of this)but since it leads to everlasting life it is the lesson I want to see everyone on earth learn because Jesus doesn't want to see anyone lost but you have free will so he can't force you to accept forgiveness. I want everyone to be saved because I like them not because I hate them and that is the feeling of everyone who truly has the Christ alive in their hearts.

[goflyblind]

Please don't mistake my making light of this on a comedy site for hate. Far from it,if anything the fact that there are people who are either in so much pain,so confused,or so lost in their sin that they spend huge amounts of money and go through a lot of pain and the end result is not only that they changed who God created them to be but have also but up a huge wall between themselves and Jesus makes me want to cry. Like gays they have lost their purpose and and put up and wall that will keep them cut off from God and keep them from finding their true purpose. Hate isn't how to respond,if I hated them I would pretend that what they are doing is okay and that there is nothing wrong with it and leave them lost,instead I will keep telling them that they are cutting themselves off and that there is a path back to God,Jesus made it. They may be so lost that they will not take it and they may get mad at me for saying it but this isn't about me this is about saving souls.  Not all things that happen are good but all things do work together for good for them that love the lord and those who are called to his purpose.  It has taken me pretty much all of my life to learn this so I can't imagine what it is like for some one who has not heard it,but now that I am learning it there is peace and nothing offends me any more.  Sorry I'll clear out now but I just felt that needed to be explained.

your solution is to harass people--using a specific form of religion--into conforming to sexual and gender stereotypes?

[MontyServo]

Please don't mistake my making light of this on a comedy site for hate. Far from it,if anything the fact that there are people who are either in so much pain,so confused,or so lost in their sin that they spend huge amounts of money and go through a lot of pain and the end result is not only that they changed who God created them to be but have also but up a huge wall between themselves and Jesus makes me want to cry. Like gays they have lost their purpose and and put up and wall that will keep them cut off from God and keep them from finding their true purpose. Hate isn't how to respond,if I hated them I would pretend that what they are doing is okay and that there is nothing wrong with it and leave them lost,instead I will keep telling them that they are cutting themselves off and that there is a path back to God,Jesus made it. They may be so lost that they will not take it and they may get mad at me for saying it but this isn't about me this is about saving souls.  Not all things that happen are good but all things do work together for good for them that love the lord and those who are called to his purpose.  It has taken me pretty much all of my life to learn this so I can't imagine what it is like for some one who has not heard it,but now that I am learning it there is peace and nothing offends me any more.  Sorry I'll clear out now but I just felt that needed to be explained.

You don't have to be perfect to have fellowship with God(David after all was a man after God's own heart)you just have to admit your sins to him,let Christ's blood wash them away,and then let your love of Jesus for what he did keep you from doing it again.  I admit it is a hard live long lesson(that every single person has to spend their whole live learning and I am very much an example of this)but since it leads to everlasting life it is the lesson I want to see everyone on earth learn because Jesus doesn't want to see anyone lost but you have free will so he can't force you to accept forgiveness. I want everyone to be saved because I like them not because I hate them and that is the feeling of everyone who truly has the Christ alive in their hearts.

[MontyServo]

Please don't mistake my making light of this on a comedy site for hate.

Usually a sentence like this preceding a long rant means that the writer is about to spout off something that is in fact hateful.

[Smith Dr John Smith]

Please don't mistake my making light of this on a comedy site for hate. Far from it,if anything the fact that there are people who are either in so much pain,so confused,or so lost in their sin that they spend huge amounts of money and go through a lot of pain and the end result is not only that they changed who God created them to be but have also but up a huge wall between themselves and Jesus makes me want to cry. Like gays they have lost their purpose and and put up and wall that will keep them cut off from God and keep them from finding their true purpose. Hate isn't how to respond,if I hated them I would pretend that what they are doing is okay and that there is nothing wrong with it and leave them lost,instead I will keep telling them that they are cutting themselves off and that there is a path back to God,Jesus made it. They may be so lost that they will not take it and they may get mad at me for saying it but this isn't about me this is about saving souls.  Not all things that happen are good but all things do work together for good for them that love the lord and those who are called to his purpose.  It has taken me pretty much all of my life to learn this so I can't imagine what it is like for some one who has not heard it,but now that I am learning it there is peace and nothing offends me any more.  Sorry I'll clear out now but I just felt that needed to be explained.

your solution is to harass people--using a specific form of religion--into conforming to sexual and gender stereotypes?

You read but you do not understand.  God made us the way we are for a reason,when we reject that we reject him.  If I did not tell them this if I did not tell them what I know to be truth that would be an act of hate.  I would be letting them down by letting them stay cut off from God.  I am the worst sinner there could be.  I am addicted to porn,I get mad at people when I should be showing them Gods love,and I am lazy and lie to make excuses for it.  I am an awful person but because I let Christ's blood wash over me the walls I built on my own get torn down and he can live me. Everyone needs that and if we tell them their sin is okay we are helping them build the wall between them God thicker and God can't get to them because he can have no part of any unclean thing.  None of us are clean because of what we do,we are only clean because of Christ's gift to us that we can choose to accept or reject and once we accept it will will be full of his love and not want to sin any more.  It has taken me a long time to learn this and in that time I have not been a good witness but that is changing not because of me but because of Christ. Who am I to with hold the grace that God has shown me from others.  I will continue to witness and if people think I am evil then they will think I am evil,if they decide to ban me I will be banned,and if the whole world hates me it does not matter because if one soul finds it's self in sin and comes to God's grace through Jesus Christ then that is enough and the angels in Heaven will rejoice.  For too long Christ's love has not been real to me and I have chosen sin over him and for that I am sorry but now I am making new choices and if I see someone making in the same mistakes I did for years I have no right to not try to show them the path that will save them. If you think that makes me full of hate so be it because I know that I do it out of love.  It's the sin that comes from Satan that Jesus hates,it's the sinner Jesus loves. Jesus came for the sick like me not the well. The sick will only choose to take medicine if a doctor tells them they are sick. The doctor can not force them to take the medicine all he can do is tell them they are sick and tell them what medicine they need to take.  The wisdom of God is foolishness to the fallen world but then again now that I am with God for the first time in years the wisdom of the fallen world and it's problems seem foolish and small. Not because I am a better person(I am the worst sinner there is)but because Christ lives through me and I now seem more.  I feel him in me right now and I wish everyone one would accept this wonderful feeling and know the joy and peace I know,no one should choices to live with out it. But I can't force you to see the truth any more then God can,all I can do is let Jesus act through me to show you the direction of truth. The rest is up to you. Please don't close off your hearts to Jesus and his love,it is the most wonderful thing you will ever know and it will save you.

[ScottotD]

Doc.  Take a break, seriously.  Log out and take a break

[MontyServo]

God made us the way we are for a reason,when we reject that we reject him.

And that includes gays, lesbians, and transgenders.  This is something hard-wired into them from the Almighty himself.  The test is for all of you "normal" Christian folk to wrap your brains around that concept and accept that this is the way God intended them to be.  And that is a beautiful thing.

[mrbasehart]

I will not comment on the religion or God side of things, as it would probably anger those more religious forum members, but personally I think transgendered people are incredibly brave.  Displaying a courage not only to confront themselves but then risk the small-minded vindictiveness of other people when all they went to do is live as a normal life. 

[Smith Dr John Smith]

God made us the way we are for a reason,when we reject that we reject him.

And that includes gays, lesbians, and transgenders.  This is something hard-wired into them from the almighty himself.  The test is for all of you "normal" Christian folk to wrap your brains around that concept and accept that this is the way God intended them to be.  And that is a beautiful thing.

God does not make us to sin,we choose that and his word is very clear on this. Those are sins like everything else that comes from Satan and are used to cut us off from him.  We choose to believe his lies and tell ourselves that the sin is normal. We all do that I have been lost in a world of sexual sin for more then a decade and I told myself it was normal and everything in the world told me it was normal but normal does not mean that it is right.  I cut myself off from God and his love because I cared more about the sin them an did about his love,I was a fool to reject his love and it left me empty.  That is why I feel sorry for anyone trapped in sin and will witness to them. Sexual sin is the hardest to break free from because the starting point in something God gave us to bless us. Letting us find a someone to love who will walk through life with us no matter where it leaves and having a family is a huge blessing but Satan is smart and he twists it to lead us down a path that in the end cuts us off from God. Because God is holy he will not take away our free will but he also can't fellowship with sin. Satan told me the lies but I choose to believe them. I was lost in sexual sin so I feel for anyone else who is trapped in it and will try to help them the best that I can. If you think that makes me a bad person and you ban me so be it. The soul of a sinner is more important then anything on this earth.

The word of God is very clear that like the porn I have trapped myself in for more then ten years those are sexual sins like everything else. Any time I reject God's plan I am sinning.  People need to be told.  As I said if I hated them I would let them go on thinking their sin is not a sin and that they will not be separated from God because of it.

All things may be lawful for me to do,but not all things are good for me to do. That one passage sums up the whole of The Bible and why God gave it,Jesus,and the Holy Spirit.  If I have Christ in me I can not reject the word or fail to show it to others because Christ and the word are one and the same.

I am now free of a sin thanks to Jesus and I want to see everyone else become free of it too.  That is not hate it is love.

[MontyServo]

God made us the way we are for a reason,when we reject that we reject him.

And that includes gays, lesbians, and transgenders.  This is something hard-wired into them from the almighty himself.  The test is for all of you "normal" Christian folk to wrap your brains around that concept and accept that this is the way God intended them to be.  And that is a beautiful thing.

God does not make us to sin,we choose that and his word is very clear on this. Those are sins like everything else that comes from Satan and are used to cut us off from him.  We choose to believe his lies and tell ourselves that the sin is normal. We all do that I have been lost in a world of sexual sin for more then a decade and I told myself it was normal and everything in the world told me it was normal but normal does not mean that it is right.  I cut myself off from God and his love because I cared more about the sin them an did about his love,I was a fool to reject his love and it left me empty.  That is why I feel sorry for anyone trapped in sin and will witness to them. Sexual sin is the hardest to break free from because the starting point in something God gave us to bless us. Letting us find a someone to love who will walk through life with us no matter where it leaves and having a family is a huge blessing but Satan is smart and he twists it to lead us down a path that in the end cuts us off from God. Because God is holy he will not take away our free will but he also can't fellowship with sin. Satan told me the lies but I choose to believe them. I was lost in sexual sin so I feel for anyone else who is trapped in it and will try to help them the best that I can. If you think that makes me a bad person and you ban me so be it. The soul of a sinner is more important then anything on this earth.

Being gay (or straight) is not a choice like choosing what tie to wear.  So the rest of your argument is moot.  God is love.  Love for all creatures great and small, gay and straight.  All your words do is hurt those who are not hurting anyone.  You need to find your own peace with God, but the way to do that is not to try and save those who don't need to be saved.

Beating your spouse is a sin.  Hurting children is a sin.  Loving someone is never a sin.

[MontyServo]

Anyway, enough of this.

This argument belongs in a religion thread, not here where it needlessly and trollishly targets an already sensitive subject.

REPROTED!  I never thought I would actually have to use that for real.  But there you go.

[Smith Dr John Smith]

God made us the way we are for a reason,when we reject that we reject him.

And that includes gays, lesbians, and transgenders.  This is something hard-wired into them from the almighty himself.  The test is for all of you "normal" Christian folk to wrap your brains around that concept and accept that this is the way God intended them to be.  And that is a beautiful thing.

God does not make us to sin,we choose that and his word is very clear on this. Those are sins like everything else that comes from Satan and are used to cut us off from him.  We choose to believe his lies and tell ourselves that the sin is normal. We all do that I have been lost in a world of sexual sin for more then a decade and I told myself it was normal and everything in the world told me it was normal but normal does not mean that it is right.  I cut myself off from God and his love because I cared more about the sin them an did about his love,I was a fool to reject his love and it left me empty.  That is why I feel sorry for anyone trapped in sin and will witness to them. Sexual sin is the hardest to break free from because the starting point in something God gave us to bless us. Letting us find a someone to love who will walk through life with us no matter where it leaves and having a family is a huge blessing but Satan is smart and he twists it to lead us down a path that in the end cuts us off from God. Because God is holy he will not take away our free will but he also can't fellowship with sin. Satan told me the lies but I choose to believe them. I was lost in sexual sin so I feel for anyone else who is trapped in it and will try to help them the best that I can. If you think that makes me a bad person and you ban me so be it. The soul of a sinner is more important then anything on this earth.

Being gay (or straight) is not a choice like choosing what tie to wear.  So the rest of your argument is moot.  God is love.  Love for all creatures great and small, gay and straight.  All your words do is hurt those who are not hurting anyone.  You need to find your own peace with God, but the way to do that is not to try and save those who don't need to be saved.

Beating your spouse is a sin.  Hurting children is a sin.  Loving someone is never a sin.

Again you do not understand because you don't have Christ in you. Jesus has never hated the sinner,he hates the sin. That he why he came to earth,lived perfect life but then died the death of a sinner and rose again on the third day.  So that salvation would be a free gift and he could live in us but we have to open the door to him. God can have no part in sin so he can not live in us until we let the free gift cover us. We can not serve to masters,if you truly let Christ in so you are made clean you will not want to sin any more because you will be full of Christ's love and will not want to lock it out.

This is how wonderful he is. Just last night I was looking at porn as I did every night and pretending I was saved but I felt completely empty. I knew that what I was doing was wrong but I told myself it was normal and the way I was made so it wasn't really a sin but in a flash I saw how empty I was. I cried first out of self pity and then for the fact that everything bad that has happened to me has been because I choose it. At first I just wanted God to make my life right with out rejecting the sin but that could not happen because I could not serve two masters,I choose to face the fact that I am a sinner and no matter how good the sin feel if God tells me in his word that it is a sin there is a good reason. I rejected the sin and now Christ is in me for the first time in more then ten years.  I am a new creature and the old things are dead and I do not want to go back to them. I am now full of love and joy and nothing scares me any more,and I know that anything that comes my way I can deal with because Jesus is with me. The world is new and wonderful and I don't have to worry about things or put my trust in men. All I have to do is share the joy I have now and how to get it with everyone I meet,and I can't stop my self from doing that any way.  You have no idea how good this feels until you feel it but I had to give up my sin to feel it.  I had to lose my life to save it.

I AM A WHOLE NEW PERSON AND I WANT EVERYONE TO FEEL THIS JOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MontyServo]

Again you do not understand because you don't have Christ in you. Jesus has never hated the sinner,he hates the sin. That he why he came to earth,lived perfect life but then died the death of a sinner and rose again on the third day.  So that salvation would be a free gift and he could live in us but we have to open the door to him. God can have no part in sin so he can not live in us until we let the free gift cover us. We can not serve to masters,if you truly let Christ in so you are made clean you will not want to sin any more because you will be full of Christ's love and will not want to lock it out.

This is how wonderful he is. Just last night I was looking at porn as I did every night and pretending I was saved but I felt completely empty. I knew that what I was doing was wrong but I told myself it was normal and the way I was made so it wasn't really a sin but in a flash I saw how empty I was. I cried first out of self pity and then for the fact that everything bad that has happened to me has been because I choose it. At first I just wanted God to make my life right with out rejecting the sin but that could not happen because I could not serve two masters,I choose to face the fact that I am a sinner and no matter how good the sin feel if God tells me in his word that it is a sin there is a good reason. I rejected the sin and now Christ is in me for the first time in more then ten years.  I am a new creature and the old things are dead and I do not want to go back to them. I am now full of love and joy and nothing scares me any more,and I know that anything that comes my way I can deal with because Jesus is with me. The world is new and wonderful and I don't have to worry about things or put my trust in men. All I have to do is share the joy I have now and how to get it with everyone I meet,and I can't stop my self from doing that any way.  You have no idea how good this feels until you feel it but I had to give up my sin to feel it.  I had to lose my life to save it.

I AM A WHOLE NEW PERSON AND I WANT EVERYONE TO FEEL THIS JOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So let me see if I got this right.  You were just saved LAST NIGHT... and you celebrate by posting your message against transgenders in this thread.  How convenient that you were saved, cause yesterday all you had against them was a few wiseass remarks.  Now you have the power and fury of the Almighty Himself to back you up.

Listen, I am happy that you found the Lord (if that is true and you aren't really just trolling this thread).  Watching porn and masturbating aren't really high up on the list of sins that I think need attention in the world today, but if it got you going where you think you need to go then great.  However, perhaps you should spend a few weeks reflecting on things before jumping into discussions like this.

Just give it a rest Doc, or soon you will be preaching to an audience of one (cause everybody else will just put you on ignore.)

And with that, I have said my peace.  If you choose to continue, others will have to (and probably will) speak up against you.  They might not be as calm as I have been with you.

[goflyblind]

i'm confused. transgendered people should choose to feel heteronormative because god thinks masturbation is icky?

[MontyServo]

i'm confused. transgendered people should choose to feel heteronormative because god thinks masturbation is icky?

I hope that wasn't his point.  It all kind of blended together once you got into it.  God, Jesus, porn, Christ, sin, Satan, lather, rinse, repeat.

"Last night, whilst whacking one off..."   

oops... now I have said my peace.  Love and peace to all!