The Avengers thread(may contain spoilers)

[Bob]

Well...........

When villians attack and start attacking a flying ship and there are bad villians rooming around, having characters killed is not a strange thing to do.

[k1]

Yeah, I was actually not only disappointed in that but also a bit mystified...

Agent Coulson appeared in nearly every Avenger movie and was one of the threads that tied all of these super heroes together. I don't really understand what purpose it served to kill him off, both in regards to continuity or that he is such a likable character. To me it was the only misstep in the entire movie.

I guess this means he won't be in the other Avengers movies but they're doing a Black Widow origin story so there's no reason to believe he won't show up there.

I wish I hadn't read that.
Normally I don't care about spoilers, but that sucks.
I really liked all the Coulson shorts and whenever he was around.

That being said, I still REALLY want to go see this movie in the theater.  I'm hoping I have time before it's out of the theater. 

[Bob]

Just drug the kids and go this weekend

[wurwolf]

Yeah, I was actually not only disappointed in that but also a bit mystified...

Agent Coulson appeared in nearly every Avenger movie and was one of the threads that tied all of these super heroes together. I don't really understand what purpose it served to kill him off, both in regards to continuity or that he is such a likable character. To me it was the only misstep in the entire movie.

I guess this means he won't be in the other Avengers movies but they're doing a Black Widow origin story so there's no reason to believe he won't show up there.

I wish I hadn't read that.
Normally I don't care about spoilers, but that sucks.
I really liked all the Coulson shorts and whenever he was around.

That being said, I still REALLY want to go see this movie in the theater.  I'm hoping I have time before it's out of the theater. 

I'm so sorry, k1! I should have labeled it more clearly.

Also, right before the movie started APGIL said that he suspected it was going to happen, so while I didn't know for sure, I wasn't surprised when it did.

[Bob]

Yeah, good thing you didn't mention The Hulk is gay.


Oops!

[ScottotD]

...or that Captain Planet shows up


Coulson dismissing Loki is one of my favourite parts of the whole movie, top 5 probably but that's sort of why he had to die, Loki needed to seem like a threat and he was a character that had shared moments with Thor, Cap and Iron-Man so it meant more than say, Fury's offsider dying

[wurwolf]

...or that Captain Planet shows up


Coulson dismissing Loki is one of my favourite parts of the whole movie, top 5 probably but that's sort of why he had to die, Loki needed to seem like a threat and he was a character that had shared moments with Thor, Cap and Iron-Man so it meant more than say, Fury's offsider dying

By offsider do you mean officer?

I don't know, I think I could have easily found the entire series enjoyable and entertaining without Agent Coulson dying. It was just an unnecessary bummer, I think, like, Hey, we need a sad moment, who can we kill off?

[Darth Geek]

If they were going to kill off any character, I am at least glad they killed off someone who we cared about so it meant something to the audience.


I would love to see a spinoff Caulsen movie, actually. I liked the short they did for the (I think) Captain America DVD of him at the convenience store.

[MontyServo]

I purposefully avoided this thread until after I saw the movie to avoid spoilers, especially since it mentions spoilers in the thread title.

Just sayin'.

[ScottotD]

I felt it was a really great (and suprisingly powerful) moment, just having them get along would have been too easy

[Darth Geek]

I purposefully avoided this thread until after I saw the movie to avoid spoilers, especially since it mentions spoilers in the thread title.

Just sayin'.

Yeah, I made sure to not read anything here spoilered either.

Unfortunately, I did get the Thanos reveal spoiled for me in a review I knew I shouldn't have listened to before anyway.

[Relaxing Dragon]

Yeah, I can understand why it happened, and the film works a bit better with it in, all things considered. As is pointed out by Stark, it gives them something personal to fight for.

Plus, if you really want to get into the conspiracy theories, Joss did say that that character would survive the movie in some per-release interviews. As Fury did mess with them with the trading cards, it's possible he held back on that as well to further motivate them.

Then again, that's getting into "Two-Face isn't dead!" territory, and would be more than a little cheap if it were the case. So, sadly, I think he's gone for good, save for the occasional prequel/flashback.

[Gandalf Lundgren]

>sigh<

Guys, remind me to drop in on the beer thread and talk about how much I don't like beer. Otherwise, I'm afraid I'll forget.

Ok, because I am not going to see the movie in the cinema, i'm not not allowed to give my opinion?

Your comparison does not make much sense either.

[Tyrant]

Yeah, I can understand why it happened, and the film works a bit better with it in, all things considered. As is pointed out by Stark, it gives them something personal to fight for.

Plus, if you really want to get into the conspiracy theories, Joss did say that that character would survive the movie in some per-release interviews. As Fury did mess with them with the trading cards, it's possible he held back on that as well to further motivate them.

Then again, that's getting into "Two-Face isn't dead!" territory, and would be more than a little cheap if it were the case. So, sadly, I think he's gone for good, save for the occasional prequel/flashback.

  I agree. It cemented the team dynamic overall and they really began working together after that, which wound up saving the Earth and will continue to do so any time the Avengers have to assemble. Caulsen's death was not in vain, sad as it was. He was a bad ass to the end, never letting anyone see him sweat no matter how hosed up things got. That's what really got me. He was calm even as he knew he was dying, as with everything else he did.   

I don't know, short of cloning, mystical resurrection or some other thing along those lines, that he can come back outside flashbacks and such despite what Whedon said. Caulsen checked out while he was seemingly alone with Fury. I'd have an easier time believing that if Fury had had the key audience present to motivate to start with. But who knows. I suppose we can hope.

[k1]

Unless.....
The Coulson that died was a Skrull?