Crystal Skull thoughts?!

[Doctor Who?]

I don't think it's nitpicking to say that a fridge can't survive a nuke.

And yet spirits from heaven coming out of the Ark and melting off people's faces and the lid going back on conveniently is a-okay?

In the bible any unclean person who touched the ark was killed.

Only the priests could touch it and live.

They were obeying the logic of the story.

There is no logic at all in a fridge surviving a nuke,it's just stupid and it shows that Lucas thinks the people watching are braindead.

Under the logic that this movie puts forth there is no reason that Indy couldn't have jumped 100 feet in the air and then killed all the aliens with one punch.

to put it another way this movie had no logic,it was just whatever crap Lucas decided to put on the screen.

[FordPrefect]

I don't think it's nitpicking to say that a fridge can't survive a nuke.

And yet spirits from heaven coming out of the Ark and melting off people's faces and the lid going back on conveniently is a-okay?

Again, I'm not really sure why exactly everyone all of a sudden decided "Well, that's just too much". All the Indiana Jones flicks are pretty ridiculous, but in a fun way if you let them be.

A lot of it has to do with nostalgia versus the audiences growing skepticism when it comes to movies like this. What would have probably passed as acceptable back when they saw the original movies doesn't fly as well today. I'd be interested in seeing the reaction of a little kid with no prior attachment to the movies. If he were to watch the four movies, one right after the other, would he like Crystal Skull less than the first three? Would he find it less believable or would he just think it was cooler because it had aliens in it?

Note: I'd like to perform the same "little kid marathon" experiment with all the Star Wars movies and the upcoming "Ghostbusters Trilogy" when the third movie inevitably comes out.

[MartyS (Gromit)]

I don't think it's nitpicking to say that a fridge can't survive a nuke.

And yet spirits from heaven coming out of the Ark and melting off people's faces and the lid going back on conveniently is a-okay?

Again, I'm not really sure why exactly everyone all of a sudden decided "Well, that's just too much". All the Indiana Jones flicks are pretty ridiculous, but in a fun way if you let them be.

A lot of it has to do with nostalgia versus the audiences growing skepticism when it comes to movies like this. What would have probably passed as acceptable back when they saw the original movies doesn't fly as well today. I'd be interested in seeing the reaction of a little kid with no prior attachment to the movies. If he were to watch the four movies, one right after the other, would he like Crystal Skull less than the first three? Would he find it less believable or would he just think it was cooler because it had aliens in it?

Not sure nostalgia is the right word, but I do agree that the quality of some of the previous films gave this one much higher expectations, hard to say if this movie as a stand alone would seem better, especially the ending.  But I'm not sure there's any way that lead fridge trick would not get comments, it was just a bit too over the top ridiculus.

[Doctor Who?]

Here is the worst thing about the fridge bit IMO,it served no purpose in the plot it was just there.

Take a look it didn't set anything up for latter,it didn't help Indy find something,it did nothing to move the plot forward at all it was just a big stupid scene stuck in the middle of the movie.

If you ask me that makes it stick out even more.

If it had served some point in any other wise good plot people may have laughed at it but gotten over it,but as it was it was something stupid that could have been cut out.

Here is how I would have given it and the movie a point have it happen,have Indy survive,but then have him find out he he going to die at some point from the radiation.

That would give the movie some emotion it needed,it would have given Indy a reason to maybe want to get his personal life together at last,and it could have made the movie a real passing of the touch or last adventure type movie.

If Lucas had done something like that I am willing to bet people would have overlooked it.

[MartyS (Gromit)]

Here is how I would have given it and the movie a point have it happen,have Indy survive,but then have him find out he he going to die at some point from the radiation.

That would give the movie some emotion it needed,it would have given Indy a reason to maybe want to get his personal life together at last,and it could have made the movie a real passing of the touch or last adventure type movie.

I like that, considering there were aliens at the end they could have cured him of the radiation poisoning, so you'd have the emotion through most of the film but also give it a happy ending, I think a sad ending would have caused way more uproar than the aliens.  Heck they could have used the radiation poisoning to give him some connection to the aliens somehow.

[Doctor Who?]

Here is how I would have given it and the movie a point have it happen,have Indy survive,but then have him find out he he going to die at some point from the radiation.

That would give the movie some emotion it needed,it would have given Indy a reason to maybe want to get his personal life together at last,and it could have made the movie a real passing of the touch or last adventure type movie.

I like that, considering there were aliens at the end they could have cured him of the radiation poisoning, so you'd have the emotion through most of the film but also give it a happy ending, I think a sad ending would have caused way more uproar than the aliens.  Heck they could have used the radiation poisoning to give him some connection to the aliens somehow.

Thanks.

I like the idea of the alien cure,not sure why i didn't think of it.

Quick let's remake the movie!

[Thrifty]

I don't think it's nitpicking to say that a fridge can't survive a nuke.

And yet spirits from heaven coming out of the Ark and melting off people's faces and the lid going back on conveniently is a-okay?

Again, I'm not really sure why exactly everyone all of a sudden decided "Well, that's just too much". All the Indiana Jones flicks are pretty ridiculous, but in a fun way if you let them be.

I think the inconsistency is:

1) The Ark was a holy relic, and the face melting spirits from heaven were supernatural, and the face melting was clearly stated as a supernatural elemement of the Indiana Jones universe.

2) The refrigerator was just an ordinary fridge like you could buy at Sears, and the nuke was an ordinary nuke that you could find in the United States arsenal.  It was purported as natural, and that absurdity is what bothers people.

"Face melting ark" versus "nuking the fridge" is an apples-to-oranges comparison.

[Invisible NanoGhost]

Also, how many lead-lined home refrigerators were there?  My parents had a refrigerator from the late 1940's or early 1950's, and I don't remember any large plaque on it saying "NOW LINED WITH LEAD FOR YOUR EATING ENJOYMENT!".  And if there was one, why would the testers bother putting it in this town?  To see how much the lead-lining will protect the food from a nuclear blast?  Because after your town has been flattened and you've been turned into a fireball, you'll want to know if the food is safe to eat?

[Doctor Who?]

Or we could just say the movie is stupid and not like the movie.

No editing on computer(something I and I think 99% of the population can't be bothered to put the time into learning)needed.

I really wish people would get it through their heads that other people have to right not to like thing.

I'm so sorry that my not liking this movie seems to bug some people so much.

[Doctor Who?]

What so if someone put a one minute scene of the Hulk smashing things into the movie it would be silly to say it's stupid because of how short it was?

FYI the whole movie is full of moments like that.  Another one would be using a snake to escape quick sand.

Also that moment was the dumbest thing I have scene in a long time in a movie.

I'm sorry but i don't like this movie,if you can't find a way to go on with your life after I have said that I don't know what to tell you.

[eegah]

The worst thing about the fridge thing is that the amount of G's that he would've experienced on "launch" and impact should've reduced him to an unrecognizable mass of shattered bone fragments, skin and guts.

But anyway, I just re-watched this with a couple of people who'd never seen a rifftrax (but they knew what MST3K was). Throughout the first half of the movie, they (and I) were laughing pretty heartily and I thought I had created a couple of converts. But the second half was so laugh-free for all of us that I think it may have killed that notion. Oh well.

In summary: the first half is great; the second half, not so much.

[Darth Geek]

The worst thing about the fridge thing is that the amount of G's that he would've experienced on "launch" and impact should've reduced him to an unrecognizable mass of shattered bone fragments, skin and guts.

I totally agree. I felt the same way about when Superman throws Lex in the lead room through a building in Superman vs. Doomsday.

[eegah]

The worst thing about the fridge thing is that the amount of G's that he would've experienced on "launch" and impact should've reduced him to an unrecognizable mass of shattered bone fragments, skin and guts.

I totally agree. I felt the same way about when Superman throws Lex in the lead room through a building in Superman vs. Doomsday.

I get the feeling that you are saying that it's just a show, and that I should really just relax. 

[Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck]

I don't think it's nitpicking to say that a fridge can't survive a nuke.

Also, how many lead-lined home refrigerators were there?  My parents had a refrigerator from the late 1940's or early 1950's, and I don't remember any large plaque on it saying "NOW LINED WITH LEAD FOR YOUR EATING ENJOYMENT!".

I can live with the idea of one or two brands of fridge trying out lead lining in their models.  1) There were lead-based housepaints in my lifetime so why not?. 2) A lead lining could have been meant as a selling point in the paranoid, bomb-shelter building 50's - what good is radioactive food once you've survived the Commie attack?

What I can't stand is that THAT FREAKING THING IS THE ONLY THING THAT GOT THROWN CLEAR OF THE FAKE TOWN?!?!?!?  Everything else stayed there and melted or burned and yet they want us to believe that this heavy leaden object - that was inside of a stucture, no less and therefore wouldn't have gotten a direct hit from the shockwave - was the only thing thrown by the force of the blast?

And that far? Get out your copy of The Amazing Colossal Man and watch the film of the houses "first burned, then disintergrated".  The lumber from those buildings aren't thrown a tenth of the distance that that fridge went and they weigh much less....

Jeez!

[MartyS (Gromit)]

I don't think it's nitpicking to say that a fridge can't survive a nuke.

Also, how many lead-lined home refrigerators were there?  My parents had a refrigerator from the late 1940's or early 1950's, and I don't remember any large plaque on it saying "NOW LINED WITH LEAD FOR YOUR EATING ENJOYMENT!".

I can live with the idea of one or two brands of fridge trying out lead lining in their models.  1) There were lead-based housepaints in my lifetime so why not?. 2) A lead lining could have been meant as a selling point in the paranoid, bomb-shelter building 50's - what good is radioactive food once you've survived the Commie attack?

What I can't stand is that THAT FREAKING THING IS THE ONLY THING THAT GOT THROWN CLEAR OF THE FAKE TOWN?!?!?!?  Everything else stayed there and melted or burned and yet they want us to believe that this heavy leaden object - that was inside of a stucture, no less and therefore wouldn't have gotten a direct hit from the shockwave - was the only thing thrown by the force of the blast?

And that far? Get out your copy of The Amazing Colossal Man and watch the film of the houses "first burned, then disintergrated".  The lumber from those buildings aren't thrown a tenth of the distance that that fridge went and they weigh much less....

Jeez!

A full sized lead lined fridge would weigh thousands of pounds, kinda heavy for your floor boards....  Small ones are made for holding radioactive samples, 1/8 inch shielding makes a little 4 cubic foot fridge weigh over 300 pounds.

What really gets me about that scene is not the cartoon or fantasy aspect of it, but that a great majority of people seeing it probably think it's perfectly reasonable, he's just "lucky".   Of all 4 movies this one had the most fake science stuff presented not as supernatural but as real.  A frustrating example of the lack of science education in this country.