This really passes for a "band"??

[kodiakthejuggler]

Hollywood Undead: Cause of the great Rifftrax Civil War of 2008.

The 2007 war was Transformers based, right?  I'm keeping notes for when the history books are ready.

And don't forget the chapter about funny entries in 20 questions games. I believe number 1 is still the "rudimentary lathe" bit.

[Petey Wheatstraw]

So who wants to take a time out?

It's obvious to me who needs the time out. Ingrown Asshair is just a metal maniac. I am too. We understand that our music is not enjoyed by the masses. We understand it's considered stupid and moronic by some. We understand why people aren't won over by "cookie monster" vocals. It is Isaac who doesn't understand.

I do not need a time out. Your attitude is all wrong in the assumption that I dislike Ingrown Asshair because he enjoys metal, because I enjoy metal. The reason that I dislike Ingrown Asshair is because he's a fucking idiot. I don't hate metal. I actually do enjoy metal, really! Even death metal! (Well, if Opeth and Sepultura count.) And my beef with Ingrown has nothing to do with him listening to 100% "brutal" music...it's that he thinks that he gets to tell me what music I can and can't enjoy. And apparently he feels the way about my taste in movies, since he once tried to explain to me that Night of the Living Dead, Halloween and The Little Shop of Horrors are "boring". He also ignores the fact that the music I listen to is very much respected in the music world, by people who matter more than some whiny chump who bangs his skull into his desk every time someone mentions something that he dislikes.

Let's get real here, I hate Eminem, but if Chuck D believes that he is important, I'm not going to argue with him, because Chuck D definitely knows more about hip hop than I do. Just the same, Chuck D has acknowledged Esham and Insane Clown Posse's importance toward Detroit hip hop. Would you argue with him about this fact?

It is Isaac who doesn't understand. He is appalled that we might throw a barb in his direction regarding his insistence that rap/metal is a good fusion, because he is insecure.

I am not insecure. You are completely wrong. That is the most idiotic thing I have ever read on a message board. Secondly, the only comment I made regarding rap-metal was that Anthrax did a good job of it, and that Esham is also good (Esham is actually hip hop/acid rap, but the lyrical content and rock fusion is enough for Esham to come closer to rap-metal than any of the shitty mainstream rock bands that rap). I never mentioned any other rap-metal. I was simply stating that a metal band having an association with hip-hop does not mean that they are not good, and that "Bring the Noise" is undeniably a classic track. That's all that I ever said.

because he is insecure. He thinks we are out to get him, when in fact we, as metalheads, do it just to piss him off and laugh when he gets upset.

I don't think that anyone is "out to get me". That idea is completely ludicrous. I am simply amused by the fact that Ingrown can't handle the fact that people enjoy more than "brutal" music, so I poke fun at him a little bit, and he gets the idea that I am personally insulting him and ends up snapping at me for no reason.

It's bizarre that Ingrown claims to enjoy Candiria, but that he hates Hed PE for some reason, considering that Hed PE are better than Candiria, and are pretty much based in the same idea: punk + hip hop + occasional fusions of genres like metal, jazz, etc. Maybe it was the reggae influences that threw him off. Seems to be the same reason he hates Sepultura's Roots album: too much tribal music gettin' in the way of that brutal shit, right, Ingrown?

Oh, and it's truly hilarious that, in Ingrown's anti-Hed PE thread, he encourages people to buy the compilation their old record label released without their involvement and without paying the band a cent for the music they made, since he claims to be a Frank Zappa fan. If he was actually alive in the 1970s (impossible for a five-year-old), would he have been out there trying to get people to buy copies of Studio Tan and Sleep Dirt since Warner Bros. was ripping Frank off? No serious music fan would encourage others to help a greedy record label rip off musicians. Especially talented ones like Hed PE.

By the way, you still haven't explained why Hed PE are not legitimate musicians. They've been in the game for years, created an original style all their own, and never changed up to meet up with what was popular with the masses. They're still playing the same gangsta punk they've been playing since they first started out - and they occasionally experiment with other styles, like thrash metal. How are they not legitimate musicians?

It's what we do, and we mean no harm. But he doesn't get that. He defends his musical tastes so vehemently that he'll drop the f-bomb with aplomb and call us every name in the book, as if it actually sinks into our moronic metalhead brains. It doesn't. Rap/Metal still sucks, and we still laugh at his anger.

Again, bullshit. Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. You don't have a clue what you're talking about. If there's anything moronic about your posts, it's the idea that, for one thing, that my attitude is based off of anyone being a metal fan. That's completely untrue. I happen to like metal a lot. Your apparent elitism towards hip-hop does not give you the right to insult others or tell them how they should think. I don't know exactly what kind of hip hop or rap-rock/rap-metal/rapcore you've heard, but you don't have a clue. One of the main reasons that many bands dabbled in rap-metal, and that metal legends like Black Sabbath collaborated with hip hop artists is that there's not really a whole lot of difference, in terms of attitude and subject matter, between metal and rap. It's all based on where you come from. When you look at it from beyond, there doesn't seem to be too many differences, but when you look at it closely, it's all the same. You can't dismiss entire genres because of crap like 50 Cent and Hollywood Undead (who, by the way, do not sound anything like metal. If these emo chumps think that they're metal, they're full of shit). It's not like the kind of crap Ingrown Asshair listens to defines death metal, now does it?

Yet we are at ease. We are not steaming. We do not need time out to cool down.

And by the way, the contents of this post are in regards to "Rap/Metal" fusion only and not legitimate genres such as classical, jazz, rock, funk, etc. After all, we ARE talking about a band who's main ingredients are Metal and Rap.

This just proves that there's no point in talking to you. You don't have a clue what you're talking about. You clearly do need to cool down, if you're making posts like this. I am always calm and cool. But there's something that has to be said about getting aggravated every time someone defends a musical idea and then claiming to laugh at them. That's idiotic, and it makes YOU, not me, look foolish.

The idea that any fusion cannot work is just plain wrong. That idea has been thrown around since the early days of rock and roll. But without any fusions, we would not have rock, first off, and we would not have metal, secondly. The jazzheads tried to convince people that fusing jazz with rock would not work because they were afraid that it would kill jazz. They were wrong, and metalheads are wrong in their thinking that rap-metal would kill off metal. Coming from a background that likes hip hop is the problem, also.

Try some Kool Keith or Esham, THEN say that rap or rock-fused rap sucks.

And again, one more time for the world: ESHAM INVENTED ACID RAP. Boomin' Words from Hell was released in 1989. Dr. Octagonecologyst was released in the late '90s. Keith had previously been a member of the group Ultramagnetic MCs, but they did not produce acid rap. No one produced acid rap until Esham came along. ESHAM INVENTED ACID RAP. And, by the way, Kool Keith released an album on Esham's record label: Spankmaster. ESHAM INSPIRED KOOL KEITH, not the other way around. Esham did acid rap before Kool Keith. ICP did acid rap before Kool Keith. Kool Keith did not invent acid rap.

[kodiakthejuggler]

This just proves that there's no point in talking to you. You don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Who's elitist now?

[Petey Wheatstraw]

This just proves that there's no point in talking to you. You don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Who's elitist now?

I didn't insult your taste in music, or tell you that you have to enjoy something. Just advising to appreciate ALL genres of music.

[kodiakthejuggler]

This just proves that there's no point in talking to you. You don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Who's elitist now?

I didn't insult your taste in music, or tell you that you have to enjoy something. Just advising to appreciate ALL genres of music.

I agree with this statement. You indeed did not insult my taste in music, nor tell me what I should like, and I appreciate that. You simply took the "you obviously are beneath me, in that you don't know what you're talking about" road, and I don't appreciate that.

[Petey Wheatstraw]

This just proves that there's no point in talking to you. You don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Who's elitist now?

I didn't insult your taste in music, or tell you that you have to enjoy something. Just advising to appreciate ALL genres of music.

I agree with this statement. You indeed did not insult my taste in music, nor tell me what I should like, and I appreciate that. You simply took the "you obviously are beneath me, in that you don't know what you're talking about" road, and I don't appreciate that.

I'm sorry if you took it that way. That wasn't actually my intent. I apologize for any unintentional offense.

[kodiakthejuggler]

This just proves that there's no point in talking to you. You don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Who's elitist now?

I didn't insult your taste in music, or tell you that you have to enjoy something. Just advising to appreciate ALL genres of music.

I agree with this statement. You indeed did not insult my taste in music, nor tell me what I should like, and I appreciate that. You simply took the "you obviously are beneath me, in that you don't know what you're talking about" road, and I don't appreciate that.

I'm sorry if you took it that way. That wasn't actually my intent. I apologize for any unintentional offense.

I forgive you. Pardon my rudeness, if I implied any.

Whadda ya think, torgosPizza? Group hug?

[MrTorso]

How about some Hollywood Undead videos??:

[Petey Wheatstraw]

How about some Hollywood Undead videos??

Please, no.

My God, that was one of the dumbest collages of cliches I've ever seen.

[kodiakthejuggler]

Just another boy band. Only slightly more edgy.

[Petey Wheatstraw]

Do these twerps have ANY IDEA how stupid they look?

[RobtheBarbarian]

Of course not, but it's slightly comforting to think that they privately view this whole thing as an act to rake in piles of emo cash. The idea that they're sincere hurts my soul.

[Petey Wheatstraw]

Of course not, but it's slightly comforting to think that they privately view this whole thing as an act to rake in piles of emo cash. The idea that they're sincere hurts my soul.

When has there ever been a "sincere" emo act?

[kodiakthejuggler]

Of course not, but it's slightly comforting to think that they privately view this whole thing as an act to rake in piles of emo cash. The idea that they're sincere hurts my soul.

I think the fact that your soul is hurting because of these guys is a direct result of their "emo" music. 

[k1]

Of course not, but it's slightly comforting to think that they privately view this whole thing as an act to rake in piles of emo cash. The idea that they're sincere hurts my soul.

I think the fact that your soul is hurting because of these guys is a direct result of their "emo" music. 

ONOES! Rob is emo!