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Started by Darth Geek, June 28, 2008, 03:28:31 PM

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I think you hit the nail on the head.

I have enjoyed all of Pixar's movies and they are much better then any of the other animated movies being released by major US studios.

Also I think the trailer for Wall E trailer looks realy good.

Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck

Quote from: Fortis on July 01, 2008, 12:51:34 PM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on July 01, 2008, 11:25:57 AM
And this begs the question...

How is it that Pixar can find all of these great stories and great scripts...put out good movies time and again....but no one else.

They're all doing remakes, crap and the occasional good movie that they try to turn into crap/sometimes they fail (MST3K: The Movie)....

I've been wondering the same thing myself. I've watched a few extras on some of the pixar movie dvds, and let me tell you, they are all wackos there. All their animators, writers, directors, everybody is completely bonkers. I wonder if that has anything to do with it.

But I did hear about a bunch of the Pixar directors got together for a lunch before Toy Story came out, and they drew a bunch of pictures on napkins. And those pictures, evolved into the movies we have now. They had a pictures of characters from Toy Story, Bugs Life, Monsters Inc., Finding Nemo and Wall*E. That is pretty incredible that a bunch of drawings on napkins have evolved into the genius that we see on screen every Pixar movie.
Sounds like the biggest difference is that Pixar is actually run by CREATIVE people and not Corporate Zombies.

Asbestos Bill

Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on July 01, 2008, 11:25:57 AM
And this begs the question...

How is it that Pixar can find all of these great stories and great scripts...put out good movies time and again....but no one else.

They're all doing remakes, crap and the occasional good movie that they try to turn into crap/sometimes they fail (MST3K: The Movie)....

Pixar is doing remakes of old stories too, such as Cars. It's not a remake of a specific movie, but the "city slicker gets a new outlook on life from small-town folks" story isn't new. And A Bugs Life is The Three Amigos as well as several other movies I'm pretty sure.

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Quote from: Asbestos Bill on July 03, 2008, 08:45:42 AM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on July 01, 2008, 11:25:57 AM
And this begs the question...

How is it that Pixar can find all of these great stories and great scripts...put out good movies time and again....but no one else.

They're all doing remakes, crap and the occasional good movie that they try to turn into crap/sometimes they fail (MST3K: The Movie)....

Pixar is doing remakes of old stories too, such as Cars. It's not a remake of a specific movie, but the "city slicker gets a new outlook on life from small-town folks" story isn't new. And A Bugs Life is The Three Amigos as well as several other movies I'm pretty sure.

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Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck

If you're going to start the "Shakespeare already covered every story structure in his plays...." argument, might as well shut down Hollywood as well as this thread....

Fuzzy Necromancer

Yeah. I think the "no original ideas" concept relies on some really tenative links and shoehorning of ideas.
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Pak-Man

Just got back from seeing this and I am blown away. Pixar manages to do SO MUCH with a bunch of non-speaking robots without anything like a human face. Everything we get from the main cast is expressed through some non-verbal squacks and action. As such, this was an extremely intricate plot to set up without the use of words. This movie's the finest example of show-don't-tell I've ever seen. And at its heart is a sweet love story in the form of Wall*E's attempts to simply hold the hand of the bot-gal he likes. It's all genuinely touching and I feel no less a man for getting a little misty-eyed near the end. Especially the moment when Eve plays all the footage and sees everything Wall*E did for her while she was in egg form. Beautiful. The kind of stuff Disney used to excel at, before they abandoned their animation roots. When you have the destruction and repopulation of earth as your B-Story, you're doing something right. Loved it. Like many of you, I'm not sure if I want to commit to best Pixar film ever, but it's certainly their most ambitious. :^)

Tripe

An absolutely spectacular movie.

It did make me convinced to go to the gym today, I was in two minds about that  ;) Oh and I'm stepping up my recycling  :)

But compared to the movie I watched yesterday it was far and a away better. Ah that's unfair, compared to the entire oeuvre of the director of  the movie I watched yesterday it was a superior movie.

Yep that's right a CGI movie about a lil recycling bot and his high tech girlfriend was more effective, more engaging and ultimately and fundamentally better than anything produced by the leading light of the New Wave.

I actually liked the human parts of the film, but then I like Ratzenberger and Najimy in most of their roles

Just an outstanding piece of work.

kodiakthejuggler

Absolutely loved it!!

The detail and animation was, of course, second to none, and they have completely upped the ante even for them.

Story-wise, it's nothing new for Pixar. They almost always employ the "loved one is whisked away, and the main character goes after them" scenario, which makes for a great Disney-inspired adventure. But I really loved the emotion put forth by every character, and Ben Burtt should win the Oscar for best sound effects. He has created another robot for the history books. First there was R2, now there is Wall-E. Every time he calls out for Eve, it tugs at my heart strings. A delightful movie.

The opening animation - Presto! - will most definitely win the Oscar for Best Animated Short. It was a perfect tribute to the great Bugs Bunny, without being overtly copied. Excellent humor!

As for the best Pixar film, I think I still like The Incredibles the best, if nothing else than the stellar writing and character development. That was one of the few movies that would have worked as a live action film as well as animated. Although Brad Bird did a superb job with Ratatouille, I think he'll always be remembered best for The Incredibles. This man has a talent that is well known and respected in Hollywood. Just listen to the commentaries for The Simpsons. Any time an animator or writer mentions his name, they all gush at how much they respect him.

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Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on July 06, 2008, 01:11:48 PM
I actually liked the human parts of the film, but then I like Ratzenberger and Najimy in most of their roles


I knew her voice sounded familiar
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flickage

Absolutely wonderful movie.  And the cartoon short that preceded it only helped matters immensely.

I gave it a 5 of 5:

http://flickage.blogspot.com/2008/06/walle-5-of-5-stars.html
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Fuzzy Necromancer

It does seem like the winning formula is a creative team with the support/patronage of a media giant but minimal interference.
Love doesn't hurt. It kills.

"Where there's smoke, there's a smoke-making machine."

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Quote from: Pak-Man on July 04, 2008, 11:02:05 PM
Just got back from seeing this and I am blown away. Pixar manages to do SO MUCH with a bunch of non-speaking robots without anything like a human face. Everything we get from the main cast is expressed through some non-verbal squacks and action. As such, this was an extremely intricate plot to set up without the use of words. This movie's the finest example of show-don't-tell I've ever seen. And at its heart is a sweet love story in the form of Wall*E's attempts to simply hold the hand of the bot-gal he likes. It's all genuinely touching and I feel no less a man for getting a little misty-eyed near the end. Especially the moment when Eve plays all the footage and sees everything Wall*E did for her while she was in egg form. Beautiful. The kind of stuff Disney used to excel at, before they abandoned their animation roots. When you have the destruction and repopulation of earth as your B-Story, you're doing something right. Loved it. Like many of you, I'm not sure if I want to commit to best Pixar film ever, but it's certainly their most ambitious. :^)

What I liked most out of the long list of things i liked is that the choice to go mainly without speech let me feel intelligent.  Instead of having a character say "Well look at that, i knew there would still be cockroaches after the end of the world" i got to make that connection myself.  They had so many little visual jokes, little things and references for the parents to enjoy while the kids laugh at the robot hitting his head (which, granted, is still cute and funny).  But it got to the point where i questioned who the film was really geared toward.  I could say so much more, but I'll leave it at that.  Another 10/10 here.