The downfall of Sci-fi

[Sharktopus]

Beyonce Knowles, who is amn R&B icon of this generation created a whole stage performance for an awards show based on Metropolis, and specifically the robot from that movie. Can anyone really say with great reassurance Transformers (Live Action), Armageddon, and Independance Day will have such a strong core of fans 80 years from now like Metropolis has?

And maybe 10% of the audience recognized it. Like Beyonce's ever seen a silent movie. Or a black & white movie.

[Quicksilver]

Beyonce Knowles, who is amn R&B icon of this generation created a whole stage performance for an awards show based on Metropolis, and specifically the robot from that movie. Can anyone really say with great reassurance Transformers (Live Action), Armageddon, and Independance Day will have such a strong core of fans 80 years from now like Metropolis has?

And maybe 10% of the audience recognized it. Like Beyonce's ever seen a silent movie. Or a black & white movie.

well that's just when you hit mute by accident right?

[Cosmic Muse]

I am sure Transformers will have that strong core of fans in the future. Unlike Independence day and Armageddon, Transformers already has a legacy that is already going on a quarter of a century old. If I live to be that old, I'll still be watching.

If you refer to the old G1 cartoons I agree with you. But this cesspool of a wetdream from Michael Bay (Who has mercifully bowed out of directing the sequel thank god! Hopefully Paramount and Dreamworks will be smart and hire a real director, not a film school drop out.) you are sadly mistaken. Can you believe after 20 years the DVD re-release of the animated movie sold pretty well? I guarentee you 20 years from now we won't be saying the same thing about Bay's abortion.

[Cosmic Muse]

And maybe 10% of the audience recognized it. Like Beyonce's ever seen a silent movie. Or a black & white movie.

Well, even so, it's still a pretty interesting thing Beyonce would have been inspired by a character that's 80 years old, right? And just how do you know Beyonce didn't watch Metropolis? Are you her best pal? I hate it when people just surmise things about celebrities with no ground of first hand proof.

[Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck]

And maybe 10% of the audience recognized it. Like Beyonce's ever seen a silent movie. Or a black & white movie.

Well, even so, it's still a pretty interesting thing Beyonce would have been inspired by a character that's 80 years old, right? And just how do you know Beyonce didn't watch Metropolis? Are you her best pal? I hate it when people just surmise things about celebrities with no ground of first hand proof.

You really think all these people invent their own routines?  I mean, she actually thought if she asked people not to put that video of her falling on stage on YouTube and they wouldn't do it.   Beyonce probably has a choreographer who created the routine and explained it to her.

Or she only knows anything about Metropolis from the Madonna video "Express Yourself".  The video I'm still convinced was Madonna trying to position herself to star in a movie version of the musical "Metropolis" that was briefly on the stage in London at the time - and pretty much tanked.   Everything's got an angle with that....woman.

[bettertomorrowamy]

Everything's got an angle with that....woman.

Even her bra!  Damn her!!

[Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck]

Everything's got an angle with that....woman.

Even her bra!  Damn her!!

Well, god forbid she ever just did anything just for the art of it.  Or because she admired the movie.

No, it had to be an attempt to pawn herself off as an actress......ruin yet another movie.

[Principal_Skin-trade]

If you refer to the old G1 cartoons I agree with you. But this cesspool of a wetdream from Michael Bay (Who has mercifully bowed out of directing the sequel thank god! Hopefully Paramount and Dreamworks will be smart and hire a real director, not a film school drop out.) you are sadly mistaken. Can you believe after 20 years the DVD re-release of the animated movie sold pretty well? I guarentee you 20 years from now we won't be saying the same thing about Bay's abortion.

It wasn't as good as the original movie I admit, but it was still a pretty damn good film. Be careful what you guarantee btw...

[Quicksilver]

If you refer to the old G1 cartoons I agree with you. But this cesspool of a wetdream from Michael Bay (Who has mercifully bowed out of directing the sequel thank god! Hopefully Paramount and Dreamworks will be smart and hire a real director, not a film school drop out.) you are sadly mistaken. Can you believe after 20 years the DVD re-release of the animated movie sold pretty well? I guarentee you 20 years from now we won't be saying the same thing about Bay's abortion.

It wasn't as good as the original movie I admit, but it was still a pretty damn good film. Be careful what you guarantee btw...

I agree.....and maybe bay's movie was a good way to start a series of transformers movies. Get someone good to do the rest of the movies, heck I wouldnt mind if Bay had input, but maybe just not the final say.

[Sharktopus]

And maybe 10% of the audience recognized it. Like Beyonce's ever seen a silent movie. Or a black & white movie.

Well, even so, it's still a pretty interesting thing Beyonce would have been inspired by a character that's 80 years old, right? And just how do you know Beyonce didn't watch Metropolis? Are you her best pal? I hate it when people just surmise things about celebrities with no ground of first hand proof.

Come on, it's Beyonce. I'm willing to bet she never sat down one night on her albino alligator-skin sofa stuffed with diamonds crushed into a fine powder to watch an 80-year-old silent German science fiction film that has entire scenes missing, lost to time. Anyway, didn't her performance just consist of her stripping off the robot costume to reveal her usual hooker outfit?

[nemo0037]

Seriously? What the hell happened? Even Star TreK: The Motion Picture makes every sci-fi movie lately look like total shit. I mean what is the last great recent Sci-fi film you have seen?

Actually, I rather thought "I, Robot" was pretty entertaining and meaningful sci-fi. As was "Minority Report." Sure, there are many rotten sci-fi films to eery good one -- but really, that's been the case from the very beginning. You have to wade through 10 "Teenagers from Outer Space" to get to one "The Day the Earth Stood Still."

[Cosmic Muse]

And maybe 10% of the audience recognized it. Like Beyonce's ever seen a silent movie. Or a black & white movie.

Well, even so, it's still a pretty interesting thing Beyonce would have been inspired by a character that's 80 years old, right? And just how do you know Beyonce didn't watch Metropolis? Are you her best pal? I hate it when people just surmise things about celebrities with no ground of first hand proof.

You really think all these people invent their own routines?  I mean, she actually thought if she asked people not to put that video of her falling on stage on YouTube and they wouldn't do it.   Beyonce probably has a choreographer who created the routine and explained it to her.

Or she only knows anything about Metropolis from the Madonna video "Express Yourself".  The video I'm still convinced was Madonna trying to position herself to star in a movie version of the musical "Metropolis" that was briefly on the stage in London at the time - and pretty much tanked.   Everything's got an angle with that....woman.

It still doesn't negate the fact that Metropolis still permeates the pop culture scene some 80 years later. Can you name any other movie from 1927 that is as widely revered as Metropolis?

[Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck]

It still doesn't negate the fact that Metropolis still permeates the pop culture scene some 80 years later. Can you name any other movie from 1927 that is as widely revered as Metropolis?

Nosferatu  And that not only is older - 1922 - it survived a court order to destroy all copies when Bram Stoker's widow won a plagerism suit.

They even made highly specultative (and completely incorrect) yet entertaining movie based on the filming of that movie.



But that doesn't mean that everyone's heard of it.

You can barely get a network (except TV Land or TCM in the middle of the night) to show anything in black and white anymore....much less silent.

[Hebs]

It still doesn't negate the fact that Metropolis still permeates the pop culture scene some 80 years later. Can you name any other movie from 1927 that is as widely revered as Metropolis?

Well, The Jazz Singer still retains it's status as a big part of cinematic history.  Or was that 1928?  Buster Keaton, Charlie Chaplin and Lilian Gish are all still very much alive in pop culture.

Either way, everything is influenced by something that preceeded it.  We can get all upset about if people understand the significance of it, or we can just appreciate that later, a few people will see the original and maybe a light or two will go on for them.

[Tripe]

They even made highly specultative (and completely incorrect) yet entertaining movie based on the filming of that movie.

"I'll eat her later!"