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Started by PlayMSTie, August 05, 2007, 07:47:26 PM

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Variety of Cells

In defense of the Pythons, I don't think dressing up as women is what was funny.  The fact that it was a man dressed up as a woman was never the punch line.  It was the jokes within the sketch or the personality they gave to the woman that made it, to me, humorous.  They never stopped at just showing a man in drag expecting to get laughs.  They proceeded with the sketch as if everything was normal, unlike some comedies in America that I've seen.

I don't think they did it to try and be funny, but instead because they didn't think many women could be as funny as they were.   Unless the sketch required a voluptuous woman, then the role went to the woman with the biggest tits.

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How dare you say that Connie Booth and Carol Cleveland weren't there solely for their comedic timing. How dare you sir, how dare you! ;D

anais.jude

i liked the passion of the christ only becuase i think gibson did a good job showing how absolute power corrupts people and they will try anything to keep that power (i am thinking of the jewish priests) although it seemed a little odd that he gave pilate all the sympathy.

i think schindler's list is a great film, but to be honest i was offended and upset that they showed liam neeson having random sex at the begining of the film. spielberg just has this need to put unnecessary sex in all his political films (well schindler and munich).

i also think that army of darkness is a bagillion times better than evil dead. both accompolished what they wanted to, but i really don't like horror films.

Johnny@theFair

Quote from: varietyofcells on August 11, 2007, 10:51:35 AM
In defense of the Pythons, I don't think dressing up as women is what was funny.  The fact that it was a man dressed up as a woman was never the punch line.  It was the jokes within the sketch or the personality they gave to the woman that made it, to me, humorous.  They never stopped at just showing a man in drag expecting to get laughs.  They proceeded with the sketch as if everything was normal, unlike some comedies in America that I've seen.

I don't think they did it to try and be funny, but instead because they didn't think many women could be as funny as they were.   Unless the sketch required a voluptuous woman, then the role went to the woman with the biggest tits.

I couldn't have said it better myself.
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Chaos

Yes, well, I did say that both the cross dressing and the fart jokes were the sort of low-level background humor which was just used to fill the spaces between the actual jokes. The difference being, of course, that the British comedies actually HAD jokes to put between the dresses... whereas the breed of American comedy that uses fart jokes tends to actually begin and end with the fart jokes, as though they were a form of comedic expression all their own.

I like the way varietyofcells put Python into perspective actually, it's a good way of explaining it.

I'm not bothered about the cross dressing, because it's someone embedded in their culture across the pond (since in olden  times, women weren't ALLOWED to act - so having men dressed as women there is a sort of cultural / historical thing, and also possibly Python was poking fun at that a little bit at the same time)... over here in America, the country isn't old enough for us to have really been a part of that culture of no-women-actors, at least not to the extent as Britain.

The fart jokes and their ilk, on the other hand, I really don't care for. It's below low brow as far as I'm concerned. Even in RiffTrax it has an extremely limited shelf life, for me at least.
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daltysmilth

Quote from: varietyofcells on August 11, 2007, 10:51:35 AM
In defense of the Pythons, I don't think dressing up as women is what was funny.  The fact that it was a man dressed up as a woman was never the punch line.  It was the jokes within the sketch or the personality they gave to the woman that made it, to me, humorous.  They never stopped at just showing a man in drag expecting to get laughs.  They proceeded with the sketch as if everything was normal, unlike some comedies in America that I've seen.

I don't think they did it to try and be funny, but instead because they didn't think many women could be as funny as they were.   Unless the sketch required a voluptuous woman, then the role went to the woman with the biggest tits.

Exactly.  And actually, they were kind of trying to poke fun at a certain type of woman.  If you've ever seen the rare John Cleese one-shot comedy special "How To Irritate People", which preceded Python, and contains sketches and ideas which would later be incorporated into Python, you see the origin of the concept of the Monty Python woman character (or Pepperpots as the Pythons referred to them.)  And John even explains the idea behind it.  It's interesting.

Oh, and I'm not some die-hard geek of a Monty Python fan who tries to collect every Python-related material I can get my hands on.  It's just that one of the video rental places here in town just randomly happens to have the video of it in their collection.
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How to irritate people was a masterpiece. The old pepperpot on the game show was my favorite, especially when she blurted out the most ridiculous line of all time "MOTOR TORPEDO BOAT!" in response to the question "what makes the noise 'Meow'?" John Cleese was funny as he is tall.