Marvel Shared Film Universe: MCU Theatrical & TV (discussion, crossovers, etc.)

[Cyrusso]

Looks like I was right(for once), I read an article on my phone this morning where it looks like Spiderman is back in the MCU. I can't find the damned article though. Well, that lasted for all of 30 seconds, huh?

[LucasM]

I'd love to read something saying it was resolved.  Today, I was greeted with this article of additional details on the split:

New Details Behind the Sony-Marvel Divorce Emerge

* According to the trade, Disney was asking for a 30% share from all Feige-produced Spidey films and not 50% as Deadline originally reported yesterday.

* THR's sources are saying that in the wake of the acclaim of Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse and box-office domination of Venom, films Sony produced without the help of Marvel Studios, executives are more confident in their ability to make their own Spidey films. The belief among executives is that they've "learned everything they need to know from Feige."

* Tom Holland has an option for one more movie while director Jon Watts has fulfilled his 2-picture deal.

There was to me never an idea that Sony would reboot.  They know THIS actor, and THIS director 'work' (unlike every prior iteration they've tried), plus they know by keeping Holland, they get a 'hangers-on' audience boost from the past MCU connection.  But I think it the height of arrogance for them to think that - after five shit movies (Raimi Sp-M2 was OK, I suppose) - that watching Feige and the MCU engine work for two films was enough for them to be 'experts' on how to present the character.

But I found 'Into the Spider-Verse' to be basically a 3-of-5-star movie, i.e. average: I would not waste my time and effort to watch it a second time.  And Venom outright sucked (inadequate character development, so didn't care about the characters, and therefore, didn't care what happened to them).  So, in my mind, Sony STILL doesn't know shit about how to produce good Spider-Man films on their own.

Well, they can keep making failed ones until they give up and the rights revert.  It won't likely be for a decade or more, but sooner or later (sometime after Holland and Watts are no longer under contract, and Holland is way too old to keep playing him), it WILL happen that Sony'll just be sick of failed Spider-Man film after failed Spider-Man film and stop making them.

[Pak-Man]

Meanwhile, Ms. Marvel (Kamala Khan) gets her own TV Show! Was kind of hoping she'd warrant a movie, since her powers are kinda special-effects-heavy, but I'm sure Disney will figure out how to make it work.

https://news.avclub.com/teen-superhero-fave-ms-marvel-is-getting-her-own-live-1837520593

I've read woefully little of her book (Need to remedy that soon), but I love her every time she's crossed into one of the books I do read.

[LucasM]

Indeed, Pak!:


And, apparently, She-Hulk gets her own Disney+ series, as well!


As does Moon Knight!


Holy shit we are lucky bastards!

[Johnny Unusual]

Just posted about this elsewhere.

I'm torn. All of the above would make good shows. But they would also make good movies.

Also, I still want Legion of Monsters. Movie, show, I don't care.

[Darth Geek]

Wow, I'm surprised those are live action. Should be interesting. I hate to say it but I am definitely getting Disney+. It's worth it for the Falcon and Winter Soldier show alone.

[LucasM]

Finally, an article on the Spider-Man Sony/Disney difficulties, from a non-sensationalist source (Forbes, well, less sensationalistic than fan and entertainment sites that need more clicks):

How The Marvel-Sony 'Spider-Man' Dispute Will Be Solved One Way Or Another [Updated]

There's a lot in there, not least of which is that is seems that Sony may not last as a film company much longer (being likely to be bought out), at which point Spider-Man would automatically revert to Disney.  So it is in Sony's best interests to make a deal that guarantees profitability longer.

There is one thing that makes no sense in the article, however.  The author suggests Sony should add a "purchase back the Spider-Man IP" condition prior to any sale of Sony.  If the rights would automatically revert to Disney after a sale, why on EARTH would Disney be stupid enough to agree to paying a large sum of money to obtain something that would be free to them in a short while anyway?  [The only thing I can think of, that was not in the article, is if that were Sony's 'deal-breaker' condition for splitting costs and profits for all Spider-Man related films.]

[Pak-Man]

Ooh! She-Hulk! I hope we get a lot of lawyering.

[Cyrusso]

I honestly don't give two fucks about Amazon Prime anymore. Come November I'm subbing to Disney+.

[goflyblind]

Ooh! She-Hulk! I hope we get a lot of lawyering.

all they're gonna do is re-run ally mcbeal, but digitally paint over calista flockhart.

[Cyrusso]

Ooh! She-Hulk! I hope we get a lot of lawyering.

all they're gonna do is re-run ally mcbeal, but digitally paint over calista flockhart.

They'll have to digitally stretch Ally Mcbeal because she's way too skinny to be She-hulk.

[LucasM]

If one knows they'll subscribe to Disney+, and can afford the upfront charge ($140, the cost of two years' worth, but covering three years), this is a great deal.

You Can Preorder Disney Plus For Less Than $4 A Month

[Cyrusso]

If one knows they'll subscribe to Disney+, and can afford the upfront charge ($70), this is a great deal.

You Can Preorder Disney Plus For Less Than $4 A Month

What? So on November 12th I have to pay $70 up front to get Disney plus?!

[MartyS (Gromit)]

If one knows they'll subscribe to Disney+, and can afford the upfront charge ($70), this is a great deal.

You Can Preorder Disney Plus For Less Than $4 A Month

What? So on November 12th I have to pay $70 up front to get Disney plus?!

Only if  you want the discount, and pay up front for 3 years, and first you have to join the Disney fan club D23 (apparently you can join the free version of the club and still get an invite for the discount).  Also you have to pre-order by September 2 to get the discount.

Basically do all that and get 3 years of D+ for the cost of one year, or about $2 a month off the regular price.

[Edward J Grug III]

If one knows they'll subscribe to Disney+, and can afford the upfront charge ($70), this is a great deal.

You Can Preorder Disney Plus For Less Than $4 A Month

What? So on November 12th I have to pay $70 up front to get Disney plus?!

Only if  you want the discount, and pay up front for 3 years, and first you have to join the Disney fan club D23 (apparently you can join the free version of the club and still get an invite for the discount).  Also you have to pre-order by September 2 to get the discount.

Basically do all that and get 3 years of D+ for the cost of one year, or about $2 a month off the regular price.

AND live in the US, I assume?