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Started by Edward J Grug III, November 21, 2018, 08:36:33 PM

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Waverider

I loved the riffs, but I have issues with Atlantic Rim. It's from the same company that gave us the Sharknado series. Like Sharknado, it's self aware and intentionally bad. IMHO it would be fine for Rifftrax, but not MST3K.

I know people will say that the show did other movies that are self aware of what it is, like Space Mutiny and Operation: Double 007. But they where not made intentionally bad. The Asylum took Atlantic Rim and it's other films over the top in purposely making them bad.  And I would like to add if this movie took human form, It would be so hard for me to not want to punch it in the face.

Speaking of The Asylum, they released 25 movies in the last two years. I sampled a few from each year. It's good to see consistency.  :P

The Lurker

Quote from: Waverider on November 28, 2018, 11:15:29 PM
I loved the riffs, but I have issues with Atlantic Rim. It's from the same company that gave us the Sharknado series. Like Sharknado, it's self aware and intentionally bad. IMHO it would be fine for Rifftrax, but not MST3K.

I know people will say that the show did other movies that are self aware of what it is, like Space Mutiny and Operation: Double 007. But they where not made intentionally bad. The Asylum took Atlantic Rim and it's other films over the top in purposely making them bad.  And I would like to add if this movie took human form, It would be so hard for me to not want to punch it in the face.

Speaking of The Asylum, they released 25 movies in the last two years. I sampled a few from each year. It's good to see consistency.  :P
While it's still over the top, its played more straight than Sharknado.  Their mockbusters are generally cheesy, but somewhat more sincere.


Darth Geek

Quote from: The Lurker on November 30, 2018, 03:29:23 PM
mst3kprojects' review of the movie...

http://mst3kproject.tumblr.com/post/180665361602/1202-atlantic-rim-i-was-going-to-begin-this
I like his point about inclusivity. I never even noticed it, but that means it's one of the things the movie does well.


dbsommer

Quote from: Darth Geek on December 01, 2018, 08:36:40 AM

I like his point about inclusivity. I never even noticed it, but that means it's one of the things the movie does well.

Except you're overlooking the fact that 'inclusivity' didn't make the movie good in any way. Aside from Greene, this is as terrible a movie as you could make. And if Greene was hired for his race instead of his acting talent, which even sleepwalking in this was better than the entire cast combined and multiplied ten times, than it's a slap in the face to him. And inclusivity for the sake of inclusivity doesn't make a movie better (as this showed) and potentially can make it worse. If Treach and some Native American actor read for the part of Rushing, and the Native American was better for the part, should he not get it because you already had a Native American on the cast and no African Americans yet? Inclusivity says you go with Treach. Does that make the film better or worse?

And for the record, I didn't notice the inclusivity either, since it's not a criteria for me. Aside from Greene (who is underrated) everyone was equally inept in talent, which is the only thing I care about, and most assuredly noticed  :)

And since this is the internet and nuances are nearly impossible to discern, if this came across as offensive, I apologize. I've worked with people where that issue has been an issue when it shouldn't have been.

Edward J Grug III

Quote from: dbsommer on December 01, 2018, 10:43:29 PM
Quote from: Darth Geek on December 01, 2018, 08:36:40 AM

I like his point about inclusivity. I never even noticed it, but that means it's one of the things the movie does well.

Except you're overlooking the fact that 'inclusivity' didn't make the movie good in any way. Aside from Greene, this is as terrible a movie as you could make. And if Greene was hired for his race instead of his acting talent, which even sleepwalking in this was better than the entire cast combined and multiplied ten times, than it's a slap in the face to him. And inclusivity for the sake of inclusivity doesn't make a movie better (as this showed) and potentially can make it worse. If Treach and some Native American actor read for the part of Rushing, and the Native American was better for the part, should he not get it because you already had a Native American on the cast and no African Americans yet? Inclusivity says you go with Treach. Does that make the film better or worse?

And for the record, I didn't notice the inclusivity either, since it's not a criteria for me. Aside from Greene (who is underrated) everyone was equally inept in talent, which is the only thing I care about, and most assuredly noticed  :)

And since this is the internet and nuances are nearly impossible to discern, if this came across as offensive, I apologize. I've worked with people where that issue has been an issue when it shouldn't have been.

Did you read the link? No one said inclusivity made the movie good, they just said that it was a positive aspect of the production. And it is.
FINE

losingmydignity

A pretty decent episode although the timing of the riffs is a bit off at times. I'm not a big fan of Sharknado type stuff so I didn't think this one was going to be great.
I did like the whole "Bro" sketch--Red is a well-deserved target. Good stinger too.