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Guy Ritchie To 'Reimagine' Sherlock Holmes

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Doc Steve

Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on November 06, 2008, 05:38:14 AM
Marvel comics artists are as important to the lore as Paget is to Holmes. Simple as that. Sorry, you might not get it, but that's is the case.

Hugh Jackman actually looked a lot like the Byrne depiction of Logan by the time they did Jackman's hair.  That 'criticism" makes no sense in the first place. 

As I recall, Paget is our only source of information on Moriarity's appearance.  Watson is the narrator, yet he never actually saw Moriarity himself.  (In Sherlock Holmes Returns, Holmes tells Watson what happened at Reichenbach Falls.)  Similarly, our image of Watson comes almost entirely from Paget, because Watson never properly describes himself. 

Tripe

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Quote from: Doc Steve on November 06, 2008, 06:15:55 AM
Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on November 06, 2008, 05:38:14 AM
Marvel comics artists are as important to the lore as Paget is to Holmes. Simple as that. Sorry, you might not get it, but that's is the case.
Hugh Jackman actually looked a lot like the Byrne depiction of Logan by the time they did Jackman's hair.  That 'criticism" makes no sense in the first place. 
To be honest I don't really care about X-Men the movies, there are many more fun Mutants than Wolverine, I'd have liked to have seen more of Kurt really :)


Quote from: Doc Steve on November 06, 2008, 06:15:55 AM
As I recall, Paget is our only source of information on Moriarity's appearance.  Watson is the narrator, yet he never actually saw Moriarity himself.  (In Sherlock Holmes Returns, Holmes tells Watson what happened at Reichenbach Falls.)  Similarly, our image of Watson comes almost entirely from Paget, because Watson never properly describes himself. 

Exactly  :)

a pretty girl is like

#62
Nice!  Doc Steve coming through with a big assist John Stockton style!  :highfive:

I'm all out for kicks...and every inch of me spells EXCITEMENT!

Tripe

#63
I still think, and this is true for so many things, that Eric Porter in the Jeremy Brett adaptations was one of the greatest Moriartys.


a pretty girl is like

Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on November 06, 2008, 06:23:28 AM
I still think, and this is true for so many things, that Eric Porter in the Jeremy Brett adaptations was one of the greatest Moriartys.



See I actually Law could pull off the gentleman predator part of Moriarty.   His best role to me was as Gigolo Joe in A.I.   Switch the exagerrated charm and roguishness with a bit of menace and the seduction part of Gigolo Joe can easily become a kind of predation.
I'm all out for kicks...and every inch of me spells EXCITEMENT!

Tripe


a pretty girl is like

Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on November 06, 2008, 06:35:50 AM
And I agree. But in no way foppish.

Although it worked for Zorro in The Gay Blade.  How about Moriarty, The Fey Napoleon of Crime?   :D
I'm all out for kicks...and every inch of me spells EXCITEMENT!

Doc Steve

Quote from: a pretty girl is like on November 06, 2008, 06:38:26 AM
Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on November 06, 2008, 06:35:50 AM
And I agree. But in no way foppish.

Although it worked for Zorro in The Gay Blade.  How about Moriarty, The Fey Napoleon of Crime?   :D

or Moriarity: The Closeted Criminal Conspirator.

Tripe

Quote from: a pretty girl is like on November 06, 2008, 06:38:26 AM
Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on November 06, 2008, 06:35:50 AM
And I agree. But in no way foppish.
Although it worked for Zorro in The Gay Blade.  How about Moriarty, The Fey Napoleon of Crime?   :D

Oh god, maybe the fight at the falls was actually over the affections of Watson (can't find a link to the novel that suggests a less than platonic relationship between H and W, though there are a bunch of stories out there along those lines).  ;)

Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck

Here's a collection of all the Movie and TV Holmes' and Watsons (Young Sherlock Holmes excluded) for your edification:


Tripe

That's pretty sweet, Richardson played both Holmes and (a fairly heavily fictionalized version of) Holmes' inspiration.

And where was Peter Cook?  ;)

Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck

Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on November 07, 2008, 09:18:25 AM
And where was Peter Cook?  ;)

Oh, my God....that's right.

Maybe they were only recognizing the ones that were played seriously.

Speaking of which, anyone else remember this version with John Cleese with the grandsons of Holmes and Watson....and Watson was actually the genius and Holmes was a total buffoon?

Tripe

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I have never even heard of that let alone seen it, I must track it down.

There are so many excellent character actors in it.  :)

bratpop

I prefer Sherlock Holmes' younger, smarter brother.

mrbasehart

Without a Clue was pretty great.  The Dudley Moore/Peter Cooke version of The Hound of the Baskervilles is a complete and utter abomination of a movie, and not just an adaptation of Conan Doyle.  Which is a real shame, as Bedazzled was quite good.