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[Edward J Grug III]

I said it here, and I stand by it:

i asked a rhetorical question. is it so hard to admit that you're wrong and apologize?

You seem to be having a hard time with it so far.

When someone asks a question on a message board and then they get upset when they get an answer, well I have no sympathy!

Nobody said you HAD to be positive in every post, NOBODY said BM was wrong to state his opinion, we just said why he came off as a bit of an ass, and his following posts sure haven't helped that.

ANYWAY, back on topic:

Holy SHIT you guys! We watched Dark Water on Sunday night and LOVED it!

This is one of my favourite Rifftraxes in a while! (There are a couple of recent ones I still haven't seen, mind)

Matthew did an excellent job, and I am really looking forward to the House of Wax riff.

I think my favourite joke was the one about David Bowie kidnapping her brother.

[MyStars!]

I loved the Dark Waters riff.  I loved it so much I went out and bought a cheap, used copy of the movie just so I can re-visit Elliot's riff on it whenever I like.  Waiting for my House of Wax rental to arrive and hoping Elliot's riff is just as good.

[CHF01]

This Rifftrax Presents MP3 is actually quite good. Matthew's stylings blends nicely with this movie genre, maybe even better than the executive riffing team. There aren't many laugh out loud moments to speak of, but I still really enjoyed his intellectual style of humor and insight to things happening in the movie. I liked it so much I'm getting House Of Wax next. 

[rrpostal]

Well I've finally gotten my complete collection of MST3K onto DVD this week and have started working on some RT stuff. Right now I'm up in the air about whether or not to make it a complete collection. This particular one has the dreaded double whammy of badness (copyrighted): just a single riffer and someone I have never heard of. It came across to me more like an youtube imitator than the genuine article.

This isn't to say it was really bad, it just isn't what I like about the series. There are oodles of imitation riffs online if that's what I want. I enjoy the report the guys have with one another and playing off of each other's jokes. Plus MORE jokes in general. There was a lot of just watching this bad movie again only this time with someone I don't know... and he didn't even hold my hand. I can honestly can say that watching it again with my daughters while making fun of it would have been considerably funner.

It saddens me that  the more I think about it, the more I feel that Rifftrax is a few notches below classic MST3K. And they are now pumping out sub-par, even lower notched versions. I think I'm just going to watch a classic tonight like "Rocket Attack USA" and pretend all the new rifftrax will be great. Plus I may remarket my vinyl tv apliques of our favorite friends, so we can watch with them whenever we want...

[CHF01]

Well I've finally gotten my complete collection of MST3K onto DVD this week and have started working on some RT stuff. Right now I'm up in the air about whether or not to make it a complete collection. This particular one has the dreaded double whammy of badness (copyrighted): just a single riffer and someone I have never heard of. It came across to me more like an youtube imitator than the genuine article.

This isn't to say it was really bad, it just isn't what I like about the series. There are oodles of imitation riffs online if that's what I want. I enjoy the report the guys have with one another and playing off of each other's jokes. Plus MORE jokes in general. There was a lot of just watching this bad movie again only this time with someone I don't know... and he didn't even hold my hand. I can honestly can say that watching it again with my daughters while making fun of it would have been considerably funner.

It saddens me that  the more I think about it, the more I feel that Rifftrax is a few notches below classic MST3K. And they are now pumping out sub-par, even lower notched versions. I think I'm just going to watch a classic tonight like "Rocket Attack USA" and pretend all the new rifftrax will be great. Plus I may remarket my vinyl tv apliques of our favorite friends, so we can watch with them whenever we want...

I hear you, rrpostal. I felt the exact same way about RT when I first started. I also am a long time MST fan and have every episode authored to DVD (fan and commerical releases). I knew about RT frodm the beginning, but held out hope MST would somehow be resurrected. Well, once the 60th RT release came out, I thought I'd give it a try. It took a few 'trax to get used to the new format, but I gotta say I think RT is just as excellent as MST in many regards. No, you don't get visuals with your crappy movie, just commentary. But you do get the FULL movie versus a chopped version of it.

The comedic value is just as top notch as MST3K, in my opinion. Watch five or so movies and you will be hooked. 
Oh, and Matthew Elliot's 'trax are pretty darned good. I especially liked Dark Water.


Edit: what's the story with your avatar? 

[PontiusFeeb]

My wife and I watched this last night, and it is one of our favorites so far. The delivery is so subtle and, well, English. There were a few jokes I missed because I was laughing so hard at the previous one. What a nice surprise!

[ThisIsFUN]

Sorry, Matthew, this was my least favourite RiffTrax so far.  I had to shut it off 40 minutes into the movie, because I was becoming more interested in Dark Water than the sarcastic asides that came every 30 seconds or so.  However, I now Matthew is a funny guy, so I am not permanently put off...it just didn't work for me.  Maybe if he and Mike worked together...

[MyStars!]

Sorry, Matthew, this was my least favourite RiffTrax so far.  I had to shut it off 40 minutes into the movie, because I was becoming more interested in Dark Water than the sarcastic asides that came every 30 seconds or so.

This is exactly why I watch the movie first and then the RiffTrax - not because of sarcastic asides every 30 seconds but because I worry that I might caught up in a particular movie and not pay complete attention to the riffs.

[Rattrap007]

You know I doubt I'll pass on ANY rifftrax from now on. I initially passed on it because it didn't have a single MST3K alum and that was my standard. Well I had recently traded in some old DVDs I never watched and picked up House of Wax and got the riff. I enjoyed the riff of it quite a lot. I kinda saw it as getting the DVD for free-ish and only payed $2 for the riff so what they hell. Well I liked it enough to get this one and also enjoyed it.

They are not quite as good as a three riffer movie done by Mike, Kev, and Bill, but still enjoyable. Hope we get a few more from him soon..

[dangfish]

I'm not a huge fan of solo riffs. That being said,  I liked this.  Matthew Elliot impressed me with this first effort. HIs delivery and timing were pretty good for  a newbie, and his riffs were very much in the rifftrax vein. So much so that I was surprised to discover that he wrote the whole thing himself. Occasionally he talked over the dialogue a bit too much and a few of his riffs were a bit wordy, but those are minor quibbles. Not a lot of big laughs but more than enough amusing moments to make this a worthy trax. Would love to hear him riff with Mike.

[Invisible NanoGhost]

I played this when I first bought it, and did not like it much.  I recently re-watched the movie along with the rifftrax, and I really liked the first half or maybe two-thirds of it.  It's a little lower-key than a rifftrax from the MST3k alumni, but I enjoyed it quite a bit.

And then at some point, it seems like the timing of the riffs go haywire.  There are a few riffs where a long riff from Matthew is clashing in a quite irritating way with the talking of some character on the screen, and other riffs where it's not at all clear what the riff has to do with what is happening in the movie at that point.  There's still a few riffs in this sectioni which are clearly right on the mark and fit the scene perfectly, so I don't know why the others are so far off.  I can't help but wonder if Matthew was watching a slightly different cut of the movie than the one on my DVD.

I'd say he's definitely got a good range of riffs, and I like how he adds in some positive comments as disclaimers for some riffs (such as "I'm sure this child is absolutely delightful in real life, but this character is...").  There's nothing particularly mean-spirited about his comments, and that makes for a more enjoyable rifftrax (for me, at least).

I am another person who really prefers to have multiple riffers instead of a solo riffer, but except for a few riffs which seem to be timed wrong, I thought Matthew did a fine job with this.  He did a good enough job that I'm thinking I just might maybe get the "House of Wax" rifftrax, even though I would hate to buy any movie with Paris "Look at ME!" Hilton in it, no matter who might be riffing it.

[Invisible NanoGhost]

It saddens me that  the more I think about it, the more I feel that Rifftrax is a few notches below classic MST3K. And they are now pumping out sub-par, even lower notched versions. I think I'm just going to watch a classic tonight like "Rocket Attack USA" and pretend all the new rifftrax will be great. Plus I may remarket my vinyl tv apliques of our favorite friends, so we can watch with them whenever we want...

I have to disagree with the idea that the Rifftrax releases are all a few notches below the MST3k episodes.  I can see how some people might feel this rifftrax for Dark Water is perhaps a little slow (although I personally do like it), but some of the other Rifftrax are as good as the best episodes from MST3k.  I've watched the ones for Eragon, Star Trek V, Star Wars {1,2,3}, and Reign of Fire so many times that I've memorized most of their riffs.  I think those are movies where the riffers were truly exasperated with the movie, and the riffs are great.

I'll admit that some of the rifftrax seem to be more like going through "the standard riff tricks" on a movie just because they knew they could sell a rifftrax on that big-name movie, but even those rifftrax come out reasonably well as long as there are multiple riffers working off of each other.

[Edward J Grug III]

If you like Dark Water, you'll LOVE House of Wax!

[dangfish]

If you like Dark Water, you'll LOVE House of Wax!

Actually, I liked Dark Water but I didn't care for House of Wax at all.  I thought Matthew's jokes were much more clever in Dark Water.  With House of Wax I never thought he had a good handle on the whole high school slasher thing and the riffs seemed even sparser to me than they did in Dark Water. Also, I thought the whole 'talking over the film' issue was even more of an problem in House of Wax.

[Greg_VCR]

I'm a big fan of Matthew Elliot's tracks, especially Dark Water. It's a bit of a different style, but for me in a really good way. I'd love to see more from him.