Spider Redemption

[Janitor]

What would have to happen in Spider-Man 4 that would redeem the series for you?


For me, Peter would have to dump MJ and date Ursula.


What? She's sweet! I like her! She has her flaws.


She's not perfect like my girl Nummy Muffin.

[Darth Geek]

If they just made the next one a reallt good movie like the second one, and didn't overfill it with villans, didn't have too much whining and crying, and above all DON'T MENTION A WORD of what happened in the third one, then I could forget the third movie happened. I think all told, that is the best option, all things considered.
Such a shame to have Thomas Hayden Church wasted like that.

[nummy muffin]

Such a shame to have Thomas Hayden Church wasted like that.

He was definitely better "wasted" in Sideways.

[bratpop]

Peter would have to get some Neutrogena.

[RoninFox]

Spider-Man must appease us.  First he must bring back ANOTHER SHRUBBERY!

Really, as long as it didn't completely suck again I'd be happy.  Give us one villain, that's right one, develop him well, make him credible, have a great battle at the end, and don't try and break up MJ and Peter again just to put them back together at the end.  It's just not going to work, it's not going to create tension, we see it coming a mile and a half away, forget it.

[Crowmeus]

Three words. Kraven's Last Hunt. They introduce Kraven the Hunter in the first quarter of the movie, set up his rivarly with Spidey in the second quarter, and use the last half as Kraven believing he has killed Spidey and taking his place. And at the end...

Kraven kills himself.

[mlcorcoran]

Peter would need to not be such a melodramatic whiner. One of the staples of Spider-Man comics is Spidey's wisecracking sense of humor, which was pretty much absent in the Sam Raimi movies.

I think turning Curt Connors into the Lizard would be a good villain since Dr. Connors has already had small roles in all the other movies so audiences aren't completely unfamiliar with him. If not him, then maybe Felicia Hardy as Black Cat as a villain/anti-hero and cause a love-triangle.

[bratpop]

They could be like every other movie and actually hire GOOD LOOKING people to star in it.

I would like to see Connors turn into the Lizard gradually, like Goldblum in The Fly. That way it's not absolutely ridiculous like some bad Sci-Fi Channel movie with him transforming like a werewolf into the Geico Gecko. Even Raimi could get into this. He could catch a fly with his tongue. Perfect homage. Give us a break from the Instant Villain Mix (Just Add Experiment).

Kraven I don't like. I know some people think it's brilliant that he's a hunter in the concrete jungle, but it would look pretty stupid to have a shirtless guy with a lion mane around his neck running around NYC. So the question is, would people bitch if his costume and look was changed? Because I would make him more like Blade or the Punisher, with high tech hunting equipment that would make sense in this context. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe the character was created for NYC like Spidey, so he would simply have to be tailored. The thing is, it would be a pretty dull sequel after all the CG.

[SpinyNorman]

Peter would need to not be such a melodramatic whiner. One of the staples of Spider-Man comics is Spidey's wisecracking sense of humor, which was pretty much absent in the Sam Raimi movies.



Totally agree. Although it must be a lot tougher to replicate the humour in a movie as you cannot 'freeze' the action the same way you can in a comic strip panel, I have really missed that side of the old Web-slinger.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Peter would need to not be such a melodramatic whiner. One of the staples of Spider-Man comics is Spidey's wisecracking sense of humor, which was pretty much absent in the Sam Raimi movies.

I think turning Curt Connors into the Lizard would be a good villain since Dr. Connors has already had small roles in all the other movies so audiences aren't completely unfamiliar with him. If not him, then maybe Felicia Hardy as Black Cat as a villain/anti-hero and cause a love-triangle.

NO LOVE TRIANGLE! >_<

None dammit! If there's one thing this franchise has proven, it's that they can't do a romantic subplot for beans.

[mlcorcoran]

where was there a love triangle in the Sam Raimi movies? the one date with gwen stacy that ended in disaster? the random flirting with the landlord's daughter for a couple random moments in 2 and 3? i don't think those count.

but you're probably right, it still wouldn't be a good idea for a movie. i was just thinkin cuz Black Cat is one of those semi-decent characters.

who else would be a good Spidey 4 villain?

Vulture's lame, Electro's lame, Morbius is a little too out-there, Carnage is out of the question cuz they killed their version of Venom, Rhino's lame, Chameleon's lame

Scorpion and Lizard are the only ones that come to my mind. But then again I'm by no means a Spidey expert. I'm just trying to recall what I can from the 90s cartoon I used to watch.

[Doctor Who?]

Get a new actor to play Peter Parker and Spiderman.

Fire Sam Rami. Get someone who understands Spiderman and can put in the humor from the comics that these movies were missing.

Make the Lizard the villain.

[esoobaC .T bocaJ]

The movies try too hard to be romantic, that's why I classify them as Chick Flicks


I think Kraven would be cool, then they could have a flash back to him on a rooftop, pointing his sniper rifle at Uncle Ben because the King Pin put a hit out on him, for some reason, they can figure it out later

[bratpop]

At this point all the villains are ridiculous except for Scorpion and Shocker.

[Sheik Yerbouti]

You know what Spiderman 4 needs?

MORE TOPHER GRACE AS VENOM!!

Because when I think of Venom, I immediately picture Topher freakin' Grace.  Yeesh.  The whole black suit subplot should have been cut and saved for another movie. 

I'm sorry... I just finished watching that steaming pile called Spiderman 3 for the first time and I'm feeling a little hostile.  Thank God for Rifftrax, I couldn't have made it to the end with out it. 

Anyway,  I agree that adapting Kraven's Last Hunt into a film would be the right way to go.  And you need the Lizard in there since you've already established Dr. Connors.  But no more villains than that.  Two at the very most. 

Either that or just scrap the damn franchise then come out with Spiderman Begins in about ten years.  Which is starting to sound like a good idea.