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Started by Edward J Grug III, November 21, 2018, 08:36:33 PM

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Quirk

Mac and Me is ok, but it has the same problem as most of Season 11, which is that they sound like they are trying way too hard. The original guys, especially Joel, were able to make me believe they were just funny guys seeing the movie for the first time. Jonah and co seem tense and scripted-- scripted by somebody else. The pace of the riffs definitely contributes to this.

Atlantic Rim seems better. Maybe it has a more laid back pace, or maybe they actually are getting more comfortable, but I am really enjoying it. Maybe this movie is just my kind of bad.

Oh, I'm finally able to tell Jonah apart from Servo. Unfortunately it's because I've learned that if a line is said in a weird voice or cadence for no good reason, it's Servo. He always sounds like he doesn't think his lines are funny so he tries to say them in a funny way.

Iron Curtain

Quote from: Quirk on November 26, 2018, 06:34:35 AM
Mac and Me is ok, but it has the same problem as most of Season 11, which is that they sound like they are trying way too hard. The original guys, especially Joel, were able to make me believe they were just funny guys seeing the movie for the first time. Jonah and co seem tense and scripted-- scripted by somebody else. The pace of the riffs definitely contributes to this.

Atlantic Rim seems better. Maybe it has a more laid back pace, or maybe they actually are getting more comfortable, but I am really enjoying it. Maybe this movie is just my kind of bad.

Oh, I'm finally able to tell Jonah apart from Servo. Unfortunately it's because I've learned that if a line is said in a weird voice or cadence for no good reason, it's Servo. He always sounds like he doesn't think his lines are funny so he tries to say them in a funny way.

Keep in mind that Hampton has been on one of the tours and Jonah on tour twice, but Baron never has been on any of the MST3K tours. Maybe the lack of practice is why his riffing isn't up to par in your eyes.

Glad you enjoyed the episode!  :D

Darth Geek

Atlantic Rim is bad, but for me it's a hilariously bad that I could watch on it's own. I feel bad for Graham Greene, he deserves so much better than this. The riffing makes fun of him only having one expression, but clearly the script and production gave him nothing to work with. Plus he has to do most of his scenes next to that AWFUL actor playing the general with the eyepatch.

And as bad as Atlantic Rim is, it's still better than Michael Bay's Transformers movies. I can actually tell what was going on. I didn't care about what was going on, but I could tell what was happening.


Pak-Man

I actually really enjoyed Graham Greene, but it's obvious he was playing against type. His lines screamed "tough-as-nails sergeant" but his gentle Native American inflection just wasn't up to it.

linszoid

The highlight of this episode was the Patrick Swayze Christmas callback. Also I was in the Air Force and had a supervisor that always referred to the phone as "the horn" like the guy in the movie. That made the riffs extra special to me.

Johnny Unusual

My favourite scene in the film is Graham Greene constantly oscillating between browbeating and congratulating Red while he's in prison.

Darth Geek

Quote from: Johnny Unusual on November 26, 2018, 05:11:40 PM
My favourite scene in the film is Graham Greene constantly oscillating between browbeating and congratulating Red while he's in prison.
"What part of 'you're the best worst soldier we have' do you not understand?"  ;D


eegah

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I haven't laughed that hard at a new riff in a long while. Kudos!

That movie made Sharknado look like Citizen Kane. EVERYTHING about it was horribly incompetent.

My favorite riff was when the three robot pilots were grimacing over their brain-control-thingies and they cut to the scientist looking pensive and slightly guilty. "Sooo, you guys good?"

Iron Curtain

I just love that this new season is convincing skeptics like Quirk and eegah. Maybe MST3K is back for good!

CJones

Quote from: Iron Curtain on November 27, 2018, 07:34:13 PM
I just love that this new season is convincing skeptics like Quirk and eegah. Maybe MST3K is back for good!

Let's hope so. I know this is sacrilege, but I thought season 12 even rivals Riffrax. It really benefits from having all new (or returning) writers.

Pak-Man

Totally. New MST3K can stand shoulder-to-shoulder with Rifftrax and everything that came before it. I know not everyone is quite THAT on-board, but I really think they've succeeded in capturing the spirit of MST3K while changing it up enough to keep it fresh.

eegah

Quote from: Iron Curtain on November 27, 2018, 07:34:13 PM
I just love that this new season is convincing skeptics like Quirk and eegah. Maybe MST3K is back for good!

Was I a skeptic? I found season 11 so-so, but I don't remember being skeptical. Perhaps I made a comment to that effect that I don't remember.

The recent live show was fantastic and gave me reason for optimism. I really hope their riff of "The Brain" is preserved and disseminated in some way.

Iron Curtain

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Quote from: eegah on November 28, 2018, 02:34:50 PM
Quote from: Iron Curtain on November 27, 2018, 07:34:13 PM
I just love that this new season is convincing skeptics like Quirk and eegah. Maybe MST3K is back for good!

Was I a skeptic? I found season 11 so-so, but I don't remember being skeptical. Perhaps I made a comment to that effect that I don't remember.

The recent live show was fantastic and gave me reason for optimism. I really hope their riff of "The Brain" is preserved and disseminated in some way.

I apologize if I misrepresented you. I'm just really happy that Season 12 is where the MST3K revival is growing the beard, so to speak, and that many people seem to enjoy it.

ihavemyreasons

Quote from: Pak-Man on November 28, 2018, 09:20:34 AM
Totally. New MST3K can stand shoulder-to-shoulder with Rifftrax and everything that came before it. I know not everyone is quite THAT on-board, but I really think they've succeeded in capturing the spirit of MST3K while changing it up enough to keep it fresh.
I like it, but I'm not that on board. If most everyone involved was doing this as a fulltime gig and we were getting seasons of 24 episodes each made over 24 weeks (or even some guarantee of 2 sets of 6 episodes each released every year), I might be more on board. I'm enjoying it for what it is, but with Rifftrax I feel I can count on regular releases and we're not at that point with MST3K v4 yet.

Iron Curtain

Quote from: wihogfan on November 28, 2018, 03:33:24 PM
Quote from: Pak-Man on November 28, 2018, 09:20:34 AM
Totally. New MST3K can stand shoulder-to-shoulder with Rifftrax and everything that came before it. I know not everyone is quite THAT on-board, but I really think they've succeeded in capturing the spirit of MST3K while changing it up enough to keep it fresh.
I like it, but I'm not that on board. If most everyone involved was doing this as a fulltime gig and we were getting seasons of 24 episodes each made over 24 weeks (or even some guarantee of 2 sets of 6 episodes each released every year), I might be more on board. I'm enjoying it for what it is, but with Rifftrax I feel I can count on regular releases and we're not at that point with MST3K v4 yet.

That's understandable. At least we have fantastic live shows to look forward to!