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Started by Kete, October 14, 2014, 08:33:24 AM

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Kete

If they have an Iron Spider suit, I don't think it will look different.  They can't have him without his iconic look for his introduction or his first movie.  Maybe for his second movie, but not yet.

Darth Geek

If they change the suit at all I hope they go more towards the Raimi movie's style. That is still the epitome of movie Spider-Man suit.


Johnny Unusual

I really don't think they are going to do the Iron Spider Suit (save maybe as an easter egg or quick scene), at least not in his own movie.  Maybe if he shows up in Infinity War.  Nothing against the iron suit, but it makes more sense to do a traditional suit in his own movie.  I could see him getting a few more doodads from Stark, though (spider-tracers, though I prefer the idea that he makes them himself.  BTW, apparently real tracers have been inspired by spider-tracers.  Neat).

I'm just hoping that if the FF can't get bought back by Marvel, they'll at least get the Spider-Man deal.  They would make for a perfect post-Avengers franchise.  Also, have Mole Man be the villain of the first one.  Doctor Doom can wait and Mole Man has an army of 1950's style monsters!

ScottotD

I took "You're done!" as Spidey wanted to keep fighting and Tony putting his foot down so he didn't get hurt.

Quote from: Darth Geek on May 10, 2016, 06:12:44 AM
Quote from: ScottotD on May 09, 2016, 09:03:05 PM
You are literally the only person I've ever heard who's annoyed by that
Yeah, I know I'm in the extreme minority on disliking the Ant-Man movie.

No, I meant specifically the Falcon scene. 
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Darth Geek

Quote from: ScottotD on May 10, 2016, 10:33:11 AM
I took "You're done!" as Spidey wanted to keep fighting and Tony putting his foot down so he didn't get hurt.

Quote from: Darth Geek on May 10, 2016, 06:12:44 AM
Quote from: ScottotD on May 09, 2016, 09:03:05 PM
You are literally the only person I've ever heard who's annoyed by that
Yeah, I know I'm in the extreme minority on disliking the Ant-Man movie.

No, I meant specifically the Falcon scene.
The fight itself was very well choreographed and creative. It just came way too soon after he was first training, for me to buy that he could throw down with an Avenger.


Kete

Quote from: Darth Geek on May 10, 2016, 01:32:11 PM
Quote from: ScottotD on May 10, 2016, 10:33:11 AM
I took "You're done!" as Spidey wanted to keep fighting and Tony putting his foot down so he didn't get hurt.

Quote from: Darth Geek on May 10, 2016, 06:12:44 AM
Quote from: ScottotD on May 09, 2016, 09:03:05 PM
You are literally the only person I've ever heard who's annoyed by that
Yeah, I know I'm in the extreme minority on disliking the Ant-Man movie.

No, I meant specifically the Falcon scene.
The fight itself was very well choreographed and creative. It just came way too soon after he was first training, for me to buy that he could throw down with an Avenger.

A montage is a very powerful thing.

Pak-Man

Falcon was going up against a power set he was completely unprepared for. Rookie or not, his powers were honed enough to take care of a very confused Falcon.

Edward J Grug III

Quote from: Lawful_Cupcake on May 10, 2016, 07:14:11 AM
http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Iron_Spider_Armor

There is precedent for there being an Iron Spider Suit, and it was based in the Civil War timeline. It is completely possible, considering Marvel, that this suit will make an appearance. Also, Spider-Man gains the abilities of a spider, which is why the spandex works well for him; he can take hits that most people can't, since he would have proportional dirability equal to a spider's. I am really looking forward to Homecoming, since it's I love Spider-Man. At the moment, he's the only Avenger, aside from Scarlet Witch, who has actual super powers. The rest of them are examples of the human body being capable of certain things. Vision is a being of pure intelligence, Iron Man is A product of intellect and Technology. Captain America is the absolute extent of what humanity is capable physically, The Hulk is science gone wrong, and embodiement of pure rage(makes me sad that he couldn't have been in Blackest Night from the DC universe; he'd have been a great deputy Red Lantern over Aquaman's wife), Widow is assassin/stealth,etc. Plus, I love how things always suck for him, because Spider-Man. I hope they expand on his tragedy more, because it's what makes him a relatable character.

Interesting comic tidbit, they're gearing up for Civil War round 2, and he seems to be teaming up with Iron Man AGAIN, which is odd, since it worked out horribly the first time.

It's been awhile since I read Spider-Man, but wasn't his timeline reset with magic so that that didn't happen?
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Quote from: Kete on May 10, 2016, 01:52:13 PM
Quote from: Darth Geek on May 10, 2016, 01:32:11 PM
Quote from: ScottotD on May 10, 2016, 10:33:11 AM
I took "You're done!" as Spidey wanted to keep fighting and Tony putting his foot down so he didn't get hurt.

Quote from: Darth Geek on May 10, 2016, 06:12:44 AM
Quote from: ScottotD on May 09, 2016, 09:03:05 PM
You are literally the only person I've ever heard who's annoyed by that
Yeah, I know I'm in the extreme minority on disliking the Ant-Man movie.

No, I meant specifically the Falcon scene.
The fight itself was very well choreographed and creative. It just came way too soon after he was first training, for me to buy that he could throw down with an Avenger.

A montage is a very powerful thing.



always fade out in a montage...
dF = 0
d*F = J

SJP

I think all of us are missing the big picture here...namely, how well they presented young Tony Stark in this movie.  I don't know if the darkening of the movie via 3D helped, but they did a damn good job making Downey how he looked in his Weird Science days.

What I'm saying is, if we went from the crappy de-aging shown in X-Men 3 to this, does this really mean we have to hire a new actor for Indiana Jones?  Just de-age Harrison Ford digitally to his 40s and he can play the part forever! ;)
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Edward J Grug III

I WAS super impressed with the de-aging! I saw it in 2D btw (in a 'gold class' cinema where they never show 3D movies and don't have the projectors set up for 3D) and still thought it looked amazing.
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Quantum Vagina

Quote from: Edward J Grug III on May 10, 2016, 03:28:17 PM
Quote from: Lawful_Cupcake on May 10, 2016, 07:14:11 AM
http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Iron_Spider_Armor

There is precedent for there being an Iron Spider Suit, and it was based in the Civil War timeline. It is completely possible, considering Marvel, that this suit will make an appearance. Also, Spider-Man gains the abilities of a spider, which is why the spandex works well for him; he can take hits that most people can't, since he would have proportional dirability equal to a spider's. I am really looking forward to Homecoming, since it's I love Spider-Man. At the moment, he's the only Avenger, aside from Scarlet Witch, who has actual super powers. The rest of them are examples of the human body being capable of certain things. Vision is a being of pure intelligence, Iron Man is A product of intellect and Technology. Captain America is the absolute extent of what humanity is capable physically, The Hulk is science gone wrong, and embodiement of pure rage(makes me sad that he couldn't have been in Blackest Night from the DC universe; he'd have been a great deputy Red Lantern over Aquaman's wife), Widow is assassin/stealth,etc. Plus, I love how things always suck for him, because Spider-Man. I hope they expand on his tragedy more, because it's what makes him a relatable character.

Interesting comic tidbit, they're gearing up for Civil War round 2, and he seems to be teaming up with Iron Man AGAIN, which is odd, since it worked out horribly the first time.

It's been awhile since I read Spider-Man, but wasn't his timeline reset with magic so that that didn't happen?

I'm not sure if it did or not. Comics are weird and all that. The only timeline reset I'm aware of is him making a deal with the devil to bring MJ back to life, and the catch was that they'd never been married at all, which is what started the events that led to her dying. Pretty good as devil deals go, but I'd still prefer Brimstone.

Edward J Grug III

Quote from: Lawful_Cupcake on May 10, 2016, 11:40:34 PM
Quote from: Edward J Grug III on May 10, 2016, 03:28:17 PM
Quote from: Lawful_Cupcake on May 10, 2016, 07:14:11 AM
http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Iron_Spider_Armor

There is precedent for there being an Iron Spider Suit, and it was based in the Civil War timeline. It is completely possible, considering Marvel, that this suit will make an appearance. Also, Spider-Man gains the abilities of a spider, which is why the spandex works well for him; he can take hits that most people can't, since he would have proportional dirability equal to a spider's. I am really looking forward to Homecoming, since it's I love Spider-Man. At the moment, he's the only Avenger, aside from Scarlet Witch, who has actual super powers. The rest of them are examples of the human body being capable of certain things. Vision is a being of pure intelligence, Iron Man is A product of intellect and Technology. Captain America is the absolute extent of what humanity is capable physically, The Hulk is science gone wrong, and embodiement of pure rage(makes me sad that he couldn't have been in Blackest Night from the DC universe; he'd have been a great deputy Red Lantern over Aquaman's wife), Widow is assassin/stealth,etc. Plus, I love how things always suck for him, because Spider-Man. I hope they expand on his tragedy more, because it's what makes him a relatable character.

Interesting comic tidbit, they're gearing up for Civil War round 2, and he seems to be teaming up with Iron Man AGAIN, which is odd, since it worked out horribly the first time.

It's been awhile since I read Spider-Man, but wasn't his timeline reset with magic so that that didn't happen?

I'm not sure if it did or not. Comics are weird and all that. The only timeline reset I'm aware of is him making a deal with the devil to bring MJ back to life, and the catch was that they'd never been married at all, which is what started the events that led to her dying. Pretty good as devil deals go, but I'd still prefer Brimstone.

It undid the revealing of his identity, which was during civil war, while working for Tony. (Also, I thought it was Aunt May's life he was saving?)
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Darth Geek

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Quote from: SJP on May 10, 2016, 09:57:24 PM
I think all of us are missing the big picture here...namely, how well they presented young Tony Stark in this movie.  I don't know if the darkening of the movie via 3D helped, but they did a damn good job making Downey how he looked in his Weird Science days.

What I'm saying is, if we went from the crappy de-aging shown in X-Men 3 to this, does this really mean we have to hire a new actor for Indiana Jones?  Just de-age Harrison Ford digitally to his 40s and he can play the part forever! ;)
The de-aging was really impressive. But doing that to Harrison Ford would be a bad idea. I love Harrison Ford, especially in that role. But the guy is so old now he could die any day now from a loud fart. If they have to do new Indiana Jones movies make it a reboot with a young actor that can bring something different to the role.


Johnny Unusual

Yeah, de-aging stuff is probably better for stuff like this or how it was used in Tron, where it is part of the plot, rather than for a whole film.