Fox’s Planet of the Apes Reboot of the Reboot Is Back On

[TTYT]

All I wanna know is...Will there be bomb-worshipping mutants in this thing?

[BBQ Platypus]

Ugh.  Didn't they learn their lesson the last time around?

[Darth Geek]

All I wanna know is...Will there be bomb-worshipping mutants in this thing?

Who get help from some guy in a satellite.

[Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck]

All I wanna know is...Will there be bomb-worshipping mutants in this thing?

Who get help from some guy in a satellite.

"With friends like that...."   

[bratpop]

The original was based on a book. I wish people would STFU about movies not being "original anymore." Half the "original" movies that come out are as unoriginal as you can possibly get. I mean, I get it. Like a lot of nerds, I grew up in the Eighties when they had the special effects and money to be able to do things they could never have done before and accidentally created a lot of movies that were at least visually "original." Subsequently, most movies that are deemed original these days are also due to some technological or visual advancement, hence Avatar being named on the first thread of this page, or District 9 (which if it had been handheld with NO computer-generated aliens, would have been crap). But get the hell over it already. They've been doing remakes for virtually ONE HUNDRED YEARS. People don't appreciate how good they have it that they can even watch a movie again a month after it comes out, let alone own nearly every great movie and watch them whenever the mood strikes. There was never a period in history when there was a truly great and original movie released every year. Certainly not more than that. I wouldn't even say we have it better now than ever. But at least we have instant access to everything that has come before. There is absolutely no reason to complain about what doesn't exist. Okay, hate the announcement of another Apes movie even though the original created many unnecessary sequels and spinoffs long before the term "reboot" was even conceived. But don't try to twist that hatred into being really upset that an exciting original movie didn't get announced instead. There isn't even an expression that encompasses that insane philosophy.

[ScottotD]

Holy crap, Bratpop made a point.  A good point at that

[Thrifty]

Remakes are no more tolerable now than they were 40 years ago. 

Adaptation does not equal remake.  Granted I'm annoyed by the fact that there are a billion comic book characters out there, all ready to be ported into some lameass movie, but a first time adaptation at least shows some semblance of trying to showcase a character in a new medium.  Reboots and remakes are just "hey these guys did this thing and it became popular, let's do it again."

Bratpop's contrarian rant falls flat once again.

[Nunyerbiz]

Remakes are no more tolerable now than they were 40 years ago. 

Adaptation does not equal remake.  Granted I'm annoyed by the fact that there are a billion comic book characters out there, all ready to be ported into some lameass movie, but a first time adaptation at least shows some semblance of trying to showcase a character in a new medium.  Reboots and remakes are just "hey these guys did this thing and it became popular, let's do it again."

Bratpop's contrarian rant falls flat once again.

That's an awfully fine line you are toeing... I mean, "hey these guys did this thing and it became popular, so let's do it again" can just as easily be used to describe the thought process behind porting those billion comic book characters into lameass movies. I don't see this huge rift in the levels of "originality" between somebody doing a prequel/origin story based on Planet of the Apes versus somebody spitting out a movie about the Wonder Twins.... Either one is going to succeed or fail based on execution far more than some mindblowingly unique inspiration.

[Thrifty]

Remakes are no more tolerable now than they were 40 years ago. 

Adaptation does not equal remake.  Granted I'm annoyed by the fact that there are a billion comic book characters out there, all ready to be ported into some lameass movie, but a first time adaptation at least shows some semblance of trying to showcase a character in a new medium.  Reboots and remakes are just "hey these guys did this thing and it became popular, let's do it again."

Bratpop's contrarian rant falls flat once again.

That's an awfully fine line you are toeing... I mean, "hey these guys did this thing and it became popular, so let's do it again" can just as easily be used to describe the thought process behind porting those billion comic book characters into lameass movies. I don't see this huge rift in the levels of "originality" between somebody doing a prequel/origin story based on Planet of the Apes versus somebody spitting out a movie about the Wonder Twins.... Either one is going to succeed or fail based on execution far more than some mindblowingly unique inspiration.

I think in retrospect I shot my mouth off a little too soon.

Here's the point I think Bratpop was making: "Remakes / reboots have been around for almost as long as movies have."
Here's the point I meant to make: "Doesn't matter.  They're just as tiresome now as 40 years ago."

I still think that coming up with your own original story trumps adapting or remaking someone else's work, in terms of creativity.  Not quality though. 

[Nunyerbiz]

Doesn't matter.  They're just as tiresome now as 40 years ago

Don't know if I'm comfortable with a sweeping statement like that. I thought Robert Mitchum kicked all kinds of ass in Cape Fear, but wouldn't dream of calling the DeNiro version "tiresome". Most would probably consider Star Wars a unique work, but I'm sure some think it's just a Kurosawa "remake" with a different backdrop. I guess the creativity is where you find it...  I can't limit things to just the written word or concept, when the presentation of the written word / concept is a pretty sizable chunk of what makes movies the medium they are to begin with.

[bratpop]

My point was that people didn't complain about it as much 40 years ago. The complaining was the focus of my rant. And the fact that it's because everyone's a spoiled brat now, not because remakes are worse. Essentially, stop acting so spoiled just because you thought Ghostbusters, Gremlins and Young Einstein were so original. Whatever movies you think are original were always the diamonds in the rough. And if there's no rough, there's probably no diamonds.

And also The Thing is the cosmic opposite of tiresome.

[Doctor Who?]

My point was that people didn't complain about it as much 40 years ago. The complaining was the focus of my rant. And the fact that it's because everyone's a spoiled brat now, not because remakes are worse. Essentially, stop acting so spoiled just because you thought Ghostbusters, Gremlins and Young Einstein were so original. Whatever movies you think are original were always the diamonds in the rough. And if there's no rough, there's probably no diamonds.

And also The Thing is the cosmic opposite of tiresome.

Yeah i agree with bratpop! Anyone who doesn't like a movie that comes out of Hollywood is spoiled.  Every movie that comes out is good.  There is no such thing as a bad movie,and if you think there is you should be shot because you are just a spoiled brat who is ruining the world.  Bratpop is right!

[doggans]

My point was that people didn't complain about it as much 40 years ago. The complaining was the focus of my rant. And the fact that it's because everyone's a spoiled brat now, not because remakes are worse. Essentially, stop acting so spoiled just because you thought Ghostbusters, Gremlins and Young Einstein were so original. Whatever movies you think are original were always the diamonds in the rough. And if there's no rough, there's probably no diamonds.

And also The Thing is the cosmic opposite of tiresome.

Yeah i agree with bratpop! Anyone who doesn't like a movie that comes out of Hollywood is spoiled.  Every movie that comes out is good.  There is no such thing as a bad movie,and if you think there is you should be shot because you are just a spoiled brat who is ruining the world.  Bratpop is right!

Wow, it's almost like you didn't even read his post and instead decided to post something sarcastic about a viewpoint that had little/nothing to do with what he was saying!

Also, my personal response to "remakes are always bad" has always and will always be: "The Maltese Falcon". Thank you.

[Doctor Who?]

There will always be I Spy.

Also Hollywood has a million award shows each year,they call their product art,they call themselves artist,and they are always patting each other on thee back for what great works of art they make.  If you ask me we have a right to call them on the fact that they are not the great artists they claim to be.  Now if they get rid of all award shows,stop calling movies art,stop calling themselves artist,and just admit that they just make nothing but mindless trash.  Then I would agree people have no right to complain.  As long as Hollywood claims they are making art the viewers have a right to tell them what they have done isn't art.

[doggans]

If you ask me we have a right to call them on the fact that they are not the great artists they claim to be. 

Of course we would have a right to complain if Hollywood was claiming this movie was something it was not. But for the most part, Hollywood treats only a select few of its movies as art, and that's usually only after some prestigious critic or other has already done so. The vast majority of its movies it treats as products. No more, no less.

Bratpop was not suggesting we have to love every movie that comes out. But whining about movies just draws more attention to them, when we could simply ignore seeing the movies we don't care about. And yes, I understand the irony of expressing this opinion on a website dedicated to making fun of movies, but RiffTrax does it in a constructive way, creating something new and humorous out of it. Simply whining "Hollywood has no originality" is just as tiresome, if not more so, as people are claiming remakes are.

I personally have no interest in seeing another Planet of the Apes reboot, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have the potential to be pretty good.