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Started by Jonathan_Short_Torso, August 27, 2008, 01:08:06 PM

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Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck

Quote from: kodiakthejuggler on September 02, 2008, 08:22:16 AM
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Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on September 02, 2008, 07:57:08 AM
Well, anything that gets Ewoks killed is okay with me.   >:(

Dang, that's harsh! I'd expect that kind of reaction with a Gungan, but an Ewok??  :'(
Yeah, they're just adorable....the way they were going to cook Han, Luke and company alive over an open fire.

They're just trying to appease their new god C3PO. Typical jungle creature behavior.
Sadism is sadism to me.  I started flashing back to the opening scenes of The Naked Prey.    :o

Pak-Man

Quote from: ChrisHanel on August 31, 2008, 06:34:00 PM
Oh god, you're right. Read this and cry:

In 2000, Lucas Licensing appointed Leland Chee to create a continuity tracking database referred to as the "Holocron". As with every other aspect having to do with the overall story of Star Wars, the Holocron follows the canon policy that has been in effect for years.

The Holocron is divided into 5 levels: G-canon, T-canon, C-canon, S-canon, and N-canon.

    G-canon is absolute canon; the movies (their most recent release), the scripts, the novelizations of the movies, the radio plays, and any statements by George Lucas himself. G-canon overrides the lower levels of canon when there is a contradiction. Within G-canon, many fans follow an unofficial progression of canonicity where the movies are the highest canon, followed by the scripts, the novelizations, and then the radio plays.

    T-canon[1] refers to the canon level comprising only the two television shows: Star Wars: The Clone Wars and the Star Wars live-action TV series. Its precedence over C-Level canon was confirmed by Chee[2].

    C-canon is primarily composed of elements from the Expanded Universe including books, comics, and games bearing the label of Star Wars. Games and RPG sourcebooks are a special case; the stories and general background information are themselves fully C-canon, but the other elements such as character/item statistics and gameplay are, with few exceptions, N-canon.

    S-canon is secondary canon; the story itself is considered non-continuity, but the non-contradicting elements are still a canon part of the Star Wars universe. This includes things like the online roleplaying game Star Wars: Galaxies and certain elements of a few N-canon stories.

    N-canon is non-canon. "What-if" stories (such as stories published under the Star Wars: Infinities label), game statistics, and anything else directly contradicted by higher canon ends up here. N-canon is the only level that is not considered official canon by Lucasfilm. A significant amount of material that was previously C-canon was rendered N-canon by the release of Episodes I-III.


Quote from: The Best Wikipedia Entry Ever!Canonicity of the special
See also: Star Wars continuity and canonicity
The Star Wars Holiday Special is technically in the Star Wars canon, which means that the events depicted are part of the greater continuity that includes the other films, novels, comic books, video games, etc. Generally, it falls in the C-Canon in the overall Star Wars continuity.

According to Leland Chee, the keeper of The Holocron, an internal Star Wars continuity database at Lucasfilm (which contains at least 28 individual entries relating to elements of the holiday special), most elements from the holiday special are definitely considered canon. However, there are specific rules as to what is what. First off, any element from the holiday special that is referenced in another work is considered C-Canon (such as Life Day, Chewbacca's family, etc.). Any element from the holiday special that is not referenced in other works is considered S-Canon, which means that it is canon, and that it "happened," but its canonicity is not set in stone. The only element from the holiday special where the canonicity is disputed is its claim that Chief Bast survived the destruction of the first Death Star from A New Hope. However this officer isn't necessarily Chief Bast, and might just be a lookalike played by the same actor.

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Bob

Quote from: Doctor Who? on September 02, 2008, 12:07:29 PM
So all those Harvey Corman skits are cannon?

They should be shot out of a cannon, that is for sure.

bratpop

Quote from: Harley QuinThe blame should be put squarely on Lucas' shoulders.
Yeah, don't blame the fans for thinking a character who "looks cool" but has no depth at all is more interesting than a hero or dedicated villain. Stupid Lucas, should've just made a movie full of shiny things!

Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning DuckSaid the man who is mainly responsible for the "Nobody dies in science fiction" bullshit in movies today.
How on Earth is that true beyond the fact that he made a 70s sci-fi movie that didn't kill the MAIN character, as if all those movies were automatically good? Did all the sci-fi movies prior to the 70s that didn't have main characters dying also suck?

Quote from: ChrisHanelAh, canon. The last refuge of dorks who see their fantasy reality challenged. It's for those who believe they know better than the original creators how things should be.
Er, the first sentence, maybe. The second sentence... what? How does canon refute what the original creators say and favor fans? "Canon" is almost always "original creators," and "not" means "hack novel and comic writers trying to make a quick buck." You sound like you're describing an argument that plays out: "Lightsabers are impossible." "Nuh-uh, canon says they're real." I've yet to hear that conversation.

Quote from: Jonathan_Short_TorsoYeah, at least the Ewoks were more respectable than the Gunguns...
I don't think "respectable" means "I'm not racist against them." I'd say the Gungan society is more respectable than a bunch of furry rebel cannibals attacking the government for... let me see if I remember this correctly... absolutely no reason whatsoever, and possibily without any understanding of the matter. Sure, you might not personally respect a disgusting foolish lizard (oh FFS, only one of them was even retarded), but I don't see how you could respect a teddy bear either. What, is being cute a social accomplishment?

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RoninFox

Quote from: bratpop on September 16, 2008, 11:40:19 PM
Quote from: Harley QuinThe blame should be put squarely on Lucas' shoulders.
Yeah, don't blame the fans for thinking a character who "looks cool" but has no depth at all is more interesting than a hero or dedicated villain. Stupid Lucas, should've just made a movie full of shiny things!
You mean Episode 1?
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Nick

Quote from: RoninFox on September 17, 2008, 05:29:45 AM
Quote from: bratpop on September 16, 2008, 11:40:19 PM
Quote from: Harley QuinThe blame should be put squarely on Lucas' shoulders.
Yeah, don't blame the fans for thinking a character who "looks cool" but has no depth at all is more interesting than a hero or dedicated villain. Stupid Lucas, should've just made a movie full of shiny things!
You mean Episode 1?

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Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck

Quote from: RoninFox on September 17, 2008, 05:29:45 AM
Quote from: bratpop on September 16, 2008, 11:40:19 PM
Quote from: Harley QuinThe blame should be put squarely on Lucas' shoulders.
Yeah, don't blame the fans for thinking a character who "looks cool" but has no depth at all is more interesting than a hero or dedicated villain. Stupid Lucas, should've just made a movie full of shiny things!
You mean Episode 1?