"Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011

[lassieface]

I heard; no Lady Stoneheart?

I wanted it so bad.

[JimJ]

...no "and probably Moon Boy for all I know"? Hm...

Moon Boy doesn't exist in show world.

I think the Jamie/Tyrion scene fits more with the show version, where Tyrion and Jaime were regularly talking during the trial and on good terms.  In the books, the escape is literally the first time they've spoken to each other in a year or two.  I hate the change, but the book version would've seemed kind of out of the blue in the show.  And hey, at least we don't have to hear Tyrion ask everybody he meets "Where do whores go?" next season.

[JimJ]

The Kettleblacks aren't a thing on the show either, and Lancel might as well not be in it.  I don't think we've seen or heard of him since season 2.   I'm not even daring to hope that we get religious fanatic Lancel next season, though I would love to see it.

[wurwolf]

There is the likelihood that Lady Stoneheart will not make an appearance at all:

Game Of Thrones director explains why that character wasn't in the finale—you know the one

Chief among complaints about last night's Game Of Thrones finale—complaints that give away major events for those who, like me, have yet to read the books, but are nevertheless reading and writing articles about it today like it's their job—was the absence of Lady Stoneheart, a character who makes her first appearance in the epilogue to George R.R. Martin's A Storm Of Swords. The resurrected, zombified version of Catelyn Stark that will now no longer be a surprise to me was expected by many to pop up this season, not least because Lena Headey's spoiler-filled Instagram seemed to hint at it. But of course, she did not, and today director Alex Graves is making the rounds to explain why.

Speaking to Vulture, Graves said that he first asked aloud about Lady Stoneheart during his third-season episode featuring Beric Dondarrion—the Brotherhood Without Banners leader who is Lady Stoneheart's creator—only to have showrunners David Benioff and Dan Weiss say, "Oh, yeah, you know, that's a whole thing that we're just not sure what we're going to do about." As Graves tells both Vulture and Entertainment Weekly, they're still unsure. "It was never going to be in the season," he says, "yet it took off on the Internet like it was going to happen."

Besides wanting, as always, to upset the Internet, the Game Of Thrones team had other reasons for keeping the character out of play. They already had a whole mess of concurrent storylines to keep track of, for one thing, but also: "To bring back Michelle Fairley, one of the greatest actresses around, to be a zombie for a little while—and just kill people?" Graves says to EW. "It is really sort of, what are we doing with that? How does it play into the whole story in a way that we're really going to like?"

As to whether they'll figure out a satisfactory way to incorporate Lady Stoneheart by next season, Graves doesn't know—or, at least, he's very good at insisting that he's been kept in the dark. In the meantime, he also offers his thoughts on The Hound's fate ("as I told the story ... he's gone. How is he going to survive that?"), those five expensive days it took to shoot that skeleton battle sequence, and some other things that won't give away any major events for non-readers, like a character coming back as a zombie.

http://www.avclub.com/article/game-thrones-explains-why-character-wasnt-finaleyo-205870

[Bob]

Who was that, I assumed dead guy, that a doctor was tagging blood out of and doing some Frankenstein stuff to?  The show made a big deal out of it, but I had no idea.

[JimJ]

Who was that, I assumed dead guy, that a doctor was tagging blood out of and doing some Frankenstein stuff to?  The show made a big deal out of it, but I had no idea.

The Mountain, the guy who "won" the trial by combat. Also not dead, just unconscious. Oberyn's spear was poisoned and he's dying. The Grand Maester thinks it's hopeless but not-a-maester Qyburn disagrees.

[Bob]

Oh, I thought he died.   Thanks

[Lemming Howard]

I'd just like to chime in  to say how impressive the production values have been regarding the scenes of battles or the presence of armies simply marching.  There's one scene where Stannis is simply talking while army is marching on and on in the background conveying a sense of his power.  Also again the latest episode where his mounted forces put in an appearance.  This is something I would expect in a movie and not a TV series.

[Rainbow Dash]

Bunch of weird shit in that last episode.  About the only thing I wasn't conflicted about were Arya's scenes in the last 5 minutes.  Loved the choral version of the main titles music playing over the visuals...even more than I hated the music for The Hound and Brienne fight.

They extended her time with The Hound, but she's right where she should be based on the books.  I thought her leaving Sandor to die was perfectly done.

[Rainbow Dash]

I thin Vary's might take Penny's spot, as someone for Tyrion to talk to.

[JimJ]

As a fellow-slave? That'd be cool. Penny was kind of a waste of time aside, and I love Conleth Hill's Varys.

Hopefully Tyrion's story will be quicker than in the book.

So next season we get...what, Sand Snakes, Tyrion in Essos, Arya doing the Faceless God thing, and...?  Will they do the Ironmen story next year?  And maybe Manderly's Frey Pies?

Doesn't seem like much meat for a season.

I think they'll probably take care of most of both AFFC and ADWD in the upcoming season.  There's so much stuff in those books that can be cut or shortened.  I'm really looking forward to Cersei's storyline next season.  Her POV chapters in AFFC are a train wreck of paranoid insanity and I'm looking forward to seeing Lena Headey bring that to life.  There's also still a lot of material at the Wall and in Mereen to get to.

[Rainbow Dash]

As a fellow-slave? That'd be cool. Penny was kind of a waste of time aside, and I love Conleth Hill's Varys.

Hopefully Tyrion's story will be quicker than in the book.

So next season we get...what, Sand Snakes, Tyrion in Essos, Arya doing the Faceless God thing, and...?  Will they do the Ironmen story next year?  And maybe Manderly's Frey Pies?

Doesn't seem like much meat for a season.

I think they'll probably take care of most of both AFFC and ADWD in the upcoming season.  There's so much stuff in those books that can be cut or shortened.  I'm really looking forward to Cersei's storyline next season.  Her POV chapters in AFFC are a train wreck of paranoid insanity and I'm looking forward to seeing Lena Headey bring that to life.  There's also still a lot of material at the Wall and in Mereen to get to.

I don't think the show can do it justice though.   One of the best parts of her paranoia in the books was that she is terrified Tyrion is still around.  As Tyrion wasn't in AFFC, we the reader didn't know where he was, which added to the suspense.

HBO won't tell their most popular actor on the show to bugger off for a year, and the audience will know where he is, removing that suspense.

[JimJ]

As a fellow-slave? That'd be cool. Penny was kind of a waste of time aside, and I love Conleth Hill's Varys.

Hopefully Tyrion's story will be quicker than in the book.

So next season we get...what, Sand Snakes, Tyrion in Essos, Arya doing the Faceless God thing, and...?  Will they do the Ironmen story next year?  And maybe Manderly's Frey Pies?

Doesn't seem like much meat for a season.

I think they'll probably take care of most of both AFFC and ADWD in the upcoming season.  There's so much stuff in those books that can be cut or shortened.  I'm really looking forward to Cersei's storyline next season.  Her POV chapters in AFFC are a train wreck of paranoid insanity and I'm looking forward to seeing Lena Headey bring that to life.  There's also still a lot of material at the Wall and in Mereen to get to.

I don't think the show can do it justice though.   One of the best parts of her paranoia in the books was that she is terrified Tyrion is still around.  As Tyrion wasn't in AFFC, we the reader didn't know where he was, which added to the suspense.

HBO won't tell their most popular actor on the show to bugger off for a year, and the audience will know where he is, removing that suspense.

There was no suspense for me.  I never thought for a second that Tyrion was still there.  He's way too smart to stick around after doing what he did.  I just re-read AFFC and I actually kept thinking that it might read better if Tyrion's chapters from ADWD were included.  On my next re-read I'm considering reading AFFC and ADWD simultaneously using a guide like this for the reading order.

[RandyMistie]

Of course, GOT fan/fic is slightly less pornographic than the actual books.... which is quite a switch from most fan/fic....

[Tripe]

Well there's always Game of Bones....