I just got some Pizza Rolls in the mail...

[D.B. Barnes]

I thoroughly enjoyed CM's prequel reviews. They were my first exposure to him. Although I must admit, the more of his stuff I watched, the more annoying I found him. I'll still check out his stuff. He's due to release a Blade Runner review at some point. But yeah, Plinkett has chunks of guys like CM in his stool.

Confused Matthew already released the Blade Runner review about a month or two ago.
http://confusedmatthew.com/Blade-Runner.php

Oh shit, the last YouTube video I saw was him explaining why he hadn't released anything for a while, and a coming soon preview for Blade Runner. I didn't think to check his site. Cool.

[Watchman]

And Sutter, Christ man I was trying very damn hard to be ANYTHING but condescending...

Sorry. Goddamn internet.

[MartyS (Gromit)]

I thoroughly enjoyed CM's prequel reviews. They were my first exposure to him. Although I must admit, the more of his stuff I watched, the more annoying I found him. I'll still check out his stuff. He's due to release a Blade Runner review at some point. But yeah, Plinkett has chunks of guys like CM in his stool.

Confused Matthew already released the Blade Runner review about a month or two ago.
http://confusedmatthew.com/Blade-Runner.php

Oh shit, the last YouTube video I saw was him explaining why he hadn't released anything for a while, and a coming soon preview for Blade Runner. I didn't think to check his site. Cool.

Pretty good review, although I think he focused on the Turing test too much.  I've always thought of it as being about people finding or losing their humanity, and as a byproduct of that we think about what it means to be human in general.

Nice observation about how the greatness of the movie is more about how the movie makes you think than what is happening at any point, you could call the movie a test to see how philosophically oriented the person watching it is....

[D.B. Barnes]

The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo and 2011 Re-cap

http://blip.tv/play/AYLmqxwC

[mrbasehart]

I'm amazed they didn't refer to the original in their review.  I'm guessing they haven't seen it, and that's kinda surprising, considering how high profile it was.

[Watchman]

I'm amazed they didn't refer to the original in their review.  I'm guessing they haven't seen it, and that's kinda surprising, considering how high profile it was.

Mike doesn't seem concerned with originals. He hadn't seen the original Conan The Barbarian or Fright Night.

[Russell]

I'm amazed they didn't refer to the original in their review.  I'm guessing they haven't seen it, and that's kinda surprising, considering how high profile it was.

Mike doesn't seem concerned with originals. He hadn't seen the original Conan The Barbarian or Fright Night.

Speaking of, the Remake of Conan the Barbarian was such shit...

[Watchman]

I'm amazed they didn't refer to the original in their review.  I'm guessing they haven't seen it, and that's kinda surprising, considering how high profile it was.

Mike doesn't seem concerned with originals. He hadn't seen the original Conan The Barbarian or Fright Night.

Speaking of, the Remake of Conan the Barbarian was such shit...

Oh god, it was. I rented it because their review made it sound hysterically bad, but unfortunately I just thought it was unpleasantly bad & stopped after 20 mins or so. They shouldn't raise comedic expectations like that!

I love the original though. It bugs me when people refer to it as a "campy nostalgia" movie or whatever. Umm, no. The original Conan the Barbarian is a bloody Nietzschean opera. The PG-rated Conan the Destroyer was campy. Sword & sorcery TV series like Xena were campy. But Arnold's not winking at the camera when he beheads James Earl Jones & throws his fucking head down the temple stairs.

[Russell]

I love the original though. It bugs me when people refer to it as a "campy nostalgia" movie or whatever. Umm, no. The original Conan the Barbarian is a bloody Nietzschean opera. The PG-rated Conan the Destroyer was campy. Sword & sorcery TV series like Xena were campy. But Arnold's not winking at the camera when he beheads James Earl Jones & throws his fucking head down the temple stairs.

Damn right Sutter. It was a really well-written film to boot. I think people don't really know what they mean when they use the word "campy". I'm not even sure I know what the word means, but if it means what I think it does, Conan the Barbarian is so NOT it.

[Watchman]

I love the original though. It bugs me when people refer to it as a "campy nostalgia" movie or whatever. Umm, no. The original Conan the Barbarian is a bloody Nietzschean opera. The PG-rated Conan the Destroyer was campy. Sword & sorcery TV series like Xena were campy. But Arnold's not winking at the camera when he beheads James Earl Jones & throws his fucking head down the temple stairs.

Damn right Sutter. It was a really well-written film to boot. I think people don't really know what they mean when they use the word "campy". I'm not even sure I know what the word means, but if it means what I think it does, Conan the Barbarian is so NOT it.

At least in terms of horror, campy usually means self-parody.  A simple comparison would be to compare 2 Wes Craven movies: Scream is campy, the first Nightmare On Elm Street isn't (it was meant to be taken seriously, Freddy wasn't yet the world's first child murdering comic hero).

The first time I heard the word "campy" was when it was used to describe that horror hostess Elvira, Mistress of the Dark. Those midnight movie screenings of The Rocky Horror Picture Show are the living embodiment of camp (and its most negative attributes, IMO).

"Camp" and "Hip" coexist somewhere, they both imply a lack of seriousness or sincerity. But that doesn't automatically mean camp=comedy. A good example of a comedy-horror that's not camp is Shaun of the Dead. The humor didn't come from sending up the genre, it was actually a pretty sincere tribute to Romero's films & the genre. The Resident Evil movies could probably be described as campy, the people who make them don't give a flying fuck about zombies beyond a certain level of superficial imitation.

The best I can say is: the opposite of camp is earnestness, playing it straight. Which is exactly what Conan the Barbarian (1982) does. It's not trying to imitate anything or make witty references to other movies. (But if you try to play it too straight, you end up with unintentional camp-fests. Like, for instance, certain movies that try so hard to be macho & "not gay" that they end up being unintentionally gay. Some people find camp appeal in movies like 300 or Top Gun. It gets confusing, that's why I try to stick to my horror element!)

[Prince of Space 5049]

The thing that helped me understand what "camp" meant, is when I read that the original Batman T.V. series (Adam West) was considered "high-camp".  'nuff said.

[Russell]

I love the original though. It bugs me when people refer to it as a "campy nostalgia" movie or whatever. Umm, no. The original Conan the Barbarian is a bloody Nietzschean opera. The PG-rated Conan the Destroyer was campy. Sword & sorcery TV series like Xena were campy. But Arnold's not winking at the camera when he beheads James Earl Jones & throws his fucking head down the temple stairs.

Damn right Sutter. It was a really well-written film to boot. I think people don't really know what they mean when they use the word "campy". I'm not even sure I know what the word means, but if it means what I think it does, Conan the Barbarian is so NOT it.

At least in terms of horror, campy usually means self-parody.  A simple comparison would be to compare 2 Wes Craven movies: Scream is campy, the first Nightmare On Elm Street isn't (it was meant to be taken seriously, Freddy wasn't yet the world's first child murdering comic hero).

The first time I heard the word "campy" was when it was used to describe that horror hostess Elvira, Mistress of the Dark. Those midnight movie screenings of The Rocky Horror Picture Show are the living embodiment of camp (and its most negative attributes, IMO).

"Camp" and "Hip" coexist somewhere, they both imply a lack of seriousness or sincerity. But that doesn't automatically mean camp=comedy. A good example of a comedy-horror that's not camp is Shaun of the Dead. The humor didn't come from sending up the genre, it was actually a pretty sincere tribute to Romero's films & the genre. The Resident Evil movies could probably be described as campy, the people who make them don't give a flying fuck about zombies beyond a certain level of superficial imitation.

The best I can say is: the opposite of camp is earnestness, playing it straight. Which is exactly what Conan the Barbarian (1982) does. It's not trying to imitate anything or make witty references to other movies. (But if you try to play it too straight, you end up with unintentional camp-fests. Like, for instance, certain movies that try so hard to be macho & "not gay" that they end up being unintentionally gay. Some people find camp appeal in movies like 300 or Top Gun. It gets confusing, that's why I try to stick to my horror element!)

Very interesting. I learned something today.

[D.B. Barnes]

http://blip.tv/play/AYLn2CUC

[Watchman]

The Devil Inside trailer (in a packed house the opening night of Dragon Tattoo) is responsible for the one time I made an audience of moviegoers laugh. I'm not at all a "moviehouse comedian", I'm not quick-witted or extroverted enough. However, I was so irritated by the trailer for The Devil Inside that upon its completion I groaned, louder than I intended, "So much for 'the last exorcism.'"

Hey, I didn't say it was a feat of comedic brilliance, just a pleasantly rare occurrence for me. I didn't bring down the house, mind you, it was more a series of pocketed murmurs, as if each person got the wordplay in a different millisecond.

Anyway, enough about myself, time to watch 2 guys who are consistently much funnier.

[BBQ Platypus]

I thoroughly enjoyed CM's prequel reviews. They were my first exposure to him. Although I must admit, the more of his stuff I watched, the more annoying I found him. I'll still check out his stuff. He's due to release a Blade Runner review at some point. But yeah, Plinkett has chunks of guys like CM in his stool.

This was the case for me as well.  Only I'm not really interested in seeing his Blade Runner, since I can already pretty much guess what he has to say about it. 

In fact, I find the whole wearing-thin-after-a-while issue to be true of most online content-creators.  It's why I hardly ever go to That Guy With the Glasses anymore.