What Trekie things did we learn from this 'rendition'..?

[Moleman]

WTF are you talking about?

I can understand you being confused if you're going to put words in my mouth (or in my....uh......posts...).  I said nothing about suspension of disbelief.  I'm talking about caring.  Why care if a black hole doesn't work the same way twice?  Why even try to look for it?  Why do you choose to let something like that bother you?  And yes it is a choice.

I'm not watching the movie so that I can "believe" its real.  Why would I need suspension of disbelief?  I'm watching a damn movie, its already "disbelief".

[MST3Kgirl]

man, this thread got major trek nerd for the past couple pages....too thick....must breathe!

[Lemming Howard]

Well then here's some more.  I don't know if it been remarked elsewhere but I learned that the Romulans were no longer a mysterious race of beings unlike in The Original Series (TOS).  In the movie their relation to Vulcans were so well known that Humans couldn't tell the difference between the Vulcan and Romulan languages.  No wonder the trekkies are up in arms!

[Lovye]

Well then here's some more.  I don't know if it been remarked elsewhere but I learned that the Romulans were no longer a mysterious race of beings unlike in The Original Series (TOS).  In the movie their relation to Vulcans were so well known that Humans couldn't tell the difference between the Vulcan and Romulan languages.  No wonder the trekkies are up in arms!

Black hole.  Alternate reality.

[Lemming Howard]

That explains everything.

[Moleman]

I learned that science fiction is terrible because its fiction.


I would like to say despite this movie being in my top 10 favorite sci-fi movies of all-time, I enjoyed the Rifftrax as well.  That's because I don't see Rifftrax as making fun of the movie. Making fun of certain aspects, sure.  But I see it as using the content of a movie to create a comedic routine from.  That's all.  The purpose is to have a laugh not to make sure people are informed about how bad a movie is (with a few exceptions like The Room and Maniac).  Rifftrax only adds to the movie viewing experience making the overall entertainment package better.  So needless to say, because I like Star Trek 2009 so much by itself, the Star Trek rifftrax is one of my favorite rifftrax ever.  That baby Shatner thing Bill did was one of the most hilarious things I've ever heard in a rifftrax.  Hey, there we go:

I learned that Shatner's acting talent is a birth defect.

[spaceforarent]

Maybe black holes are really just like graters. You can move along it one way and be fine, but if you go the other way you destroyed.

[Bob]

Maybe black holes are really just like graters. You can move along it one way and be fine, but if you go the other way you destroyed.

Indeed

[Doctor Who?]

Well nero flew his ship into the first black hole and he wasn't under attack.  The second black hole was created at the center of his ship and his ship was under fire.  i don't think that is a problem with the plot or logic of the movie.

[Lovye]

I don't think Nero flew in the first time as much as the black hole that was formed sucked both him and Spock in.

[ScottotD]

I learned that it is better to worry about how smart you look to other people than to enjoy a movie.

[Doctor Who?]

Never the less the black hole was not being created inside his ship and he wasn't being fired on at the time.  that was my main point.

[RoninFox]

Well then here's some more.  I don't know if it been remarked elsewhere but I learned that the Romulans were no longer a mysterious race of beings unlike in The Original Series (TOS).  In the movie their relation to Vulcans were so well known that Humans couldn't tell the difference between the Vulcan and Romulan languages.  No wonder the trekkies are up in arms!

Black hole.  Alternate reality.

That explains everything.

Actually it might.  I don't know if they tried to justify this, but just as an exercise, let me see if I can muddle my way through.

Old timeline:  Romulans and the early Federation have numerous armed encounters but Romulans never reveal themselves until one fateful encounter against Kirk as captain of the Enterprise, that encounter being the first indication to the Federation of a shared ancestry between Romulans and Vulcans.

New timeline:  Nero goes back in time and attacks the USS Kelvin.  An alien appears on screen that resembles a Vulcan, and though the ship is destroyed there are survivors to report back what they witnessed in the encounter.

The Vulcans are consulted to try and explain, but they have no answer.

Through either subspace transmissions about the attack or spies within the Federation, the Romulans learn of a potential renegade Romulan ship attacking the Federation without support of the Empire.

Afraid that if the Federation learned of the Romulan's history on their own they might draw conclusions to lead to a war (that would be disadvantageous to them at that point) Romulans contact the Federation directly in order to declare that the mysterious ship is not acting under their command.

[Moleman]

I learned that people will hijack any thread no matter what if it means getting a point across.




(yes I realize I'm being hypocritical)

[Bob]

Well then here's some more.  I don't know if it been remarked elsewhere but I learned that the Romulans were no longer a mysterious race of beings unlike in The Original Series (TOS).  In the movie their relation to Vulcans were so well known that Humans couldn't tell the difference between the Vulcan and Romulan languages.  No wonder the trekkies are up in arms!

Black hole.  Alternate reality.

That explains everything.

Actually it might.  I don't know if they tried to justify this, but just as an exercise, let me see if I can muddle my way through.

Old timeline:  Romulans and the early Federation have numerous armed encounters but Romulans never reveal themselves until one fateful encounter against Kirk as captain of the Enterprise, that encounter being the first indication to the Federation of a shared ancestry between Romulans and Vulcans.

New timeline:  Nero goes back in time and attacks the USS Kelvin.  An alien appears on screen that resembles a Vulcan, and though the ship is destroyed there are survivors to report back what they witnessed in the encounter.

The Vulcans are consulted to try and explain, but they have no answer.

Through either subspace transmissions about the attack or spies within the Federation, the Romulans learn of a potential renegade Romulan ship attacking the Federation without support of the Empire.

Afraid that if the Federation learned of the Romulan's history on their own they might draw conclusions to lead to a war (that would be disadvantageous to them at that point) Romulans contact the Federation directly in order to declare that the mysterious ship is not acting under their command.

Excellant!