TRANSFORMERS - Trailer Out Now.

[Johnny_Short_Torso]

I will reserve judgment until, you know, the movie comes out and such, and I've actually seen it. Can't wait.

I don't mean to suck up... but FINALLY, a sane opinion!

[torgosPizza]

I will reserve judgment until, you know, the movie comes out and such, and I've actually seen it. Can't wait.

I don't mean to suck up... but FINALLY, a sane opinion!

Isn't it odd? People are so quick to jump to conclusions, and then maintain those opinions throughout the viewing experience. It's like a self fulfilling prophecy. If you already "know" you're going to hate something, even though you have only been allowed access to .01% of the entire experience, then your perception is already skewed; when the time comes for the actual event, that bias will weigh heavily on whether or not you enjoy that something.

Granted, it works either way - for instance I went in with really high expectations for Pan's Labyrinth. I still loved it, but not quite as much as I'd hoped. But I didn't sit there going, "Oh man, I hope this movie is as awesome as the commercial!" I saw a couple previews of it, thought it looked great, but then forgot about it so as to not let any preconceived notion burden my enjoyment of the flick.

It's that easy.

[Johnny_Short_Torso]

Isn't it odd? People are so quick to jump to conclusions, and then maintain those opinions throughout the viewing experience. It's like a self fulfilling prophecy. If you already "know" you're going to hate something, even though you have only been allowed access to .01% of the entire experience, then your perception is already skewed; when the time comes for the actual event, that bias will weigh heavily on whether or not you enjoy that something.

Right. I mean I honestly can't remember how skewed my feelings were when I saw the trailer for the first transformers movie way back in mid-1986, but I know I was excited as hell, and that when I went to see the movie... I knew deep down it was probably going to be the best movie experience I would ever have, and it still is, it's right up there with Return of the King and The empire strikes back. I just hope the experience with the new movie is as memorable and enjoyable as the semi-parallel one from November of 1986.

[mrbasehart]

It's that easy.

It's really not.  How are you meant to forget your hopes (or lack of) for a particular film? Especially if it's based on something you love (a book, or some 80's cartoons), stars someone you admire/loathe, or is a sequel to something you loved/hated?  Don't people have preconceived notions about certain directors? Scorsese's movies are usually pretty cool, while Uwe Boll's aren't.  Pre-conceived notions can sell or destroy films.  I think we all have opinions on a movie before we see it, but it's up to the movie to either change or reinforce that opinion. 

[sarcasm_made_Easy]

It's really not

True like i have no idea how im not going to be biased towards the next, simpsons/harry potter movies.  However i think getting excited and not being able to look at a movie critically arent nessicarily the same thing.  I actually thought the spiderman movie looked dumb as hell before it came out.  I was really happy and surprised but what i saw. 

[homerjayla]

Where's the Pinky and The Brain movie? I bet it would be 100% better than The Transformers.

[sarcasm_made_Easy]

a live action pinky and the brain?

[torgosPizza]

Where's the Pinky and The Brain movie? I bet it would be 100% better than The Transformers.

Now THERE's one where Hollyweird would screw it up, and make P&B fully-realized CGI but interact with the real world, a la Garfield. Unless Spielberg was involved... hmm.. I think I just got an idea for a pitch!

It's really not.  How are you meant to forget your hopes (or lack of) for a particular film? ... Pre-conceived notions can sell or destroy films.  I think we all have opinions on a movie before we see it, but it's up to the movie to either change or reinforce that opinion. 

I think you're confusing preconceived notions with hype and expectation. Probably really hard to make a distinction (I'm probably failing myself) but here's what I think. You can have high hopes for a movie, but not go in with the expectation that it's going to be bloody, or scary for instance. Some people go into movies with no idea what they're in for.

With the TF movie, I have REALLY high hopes that it's going to be awesome, but I'm expecting it to be human-centric. Now whether I feel that's good or bad, well that's my call. And you're right, the movie will help me form the opinion afterwards. The PROBLEM is that people are forming their opinions before having seen the movie. Granted, I have opinions on what I've seen so far - including the sense that it seems more human-centric, when it might not be - but that isn't going to play a part in my enjoyment (or hatred) of the movie during the viewing. I'll try to forget everything I've seen up until that point, and just let the movie do its job.

[mrbasehart]

I think you're confusing preconceived notions with hype and expectation. Probably really hard to make a distinction (I'm probably failing myself) but here's what I think. You can have high hopes for a movie, but not go in with the expectation that it's going to be bloody, or scary for instance. Some people go into movies with no idea what they're in for.

With the TF movie, I have REALLY high hopes that it's going to be awesome, but I'm expecting it to be human-centric. Now whether I feel that's good or bad, well that's my call. And you're right, the movie will help me form the opinion afterwards. The PROBLEM is that people are forming their opinions before having seen the movie. Granted, I have opinions on what I've seen so far - including the sense that it seems more human-centric, when it might not be - but that isn't going to play a part in my enjoyment (or hatred) of the movie during the viewing. I'll try to forget everything I've seen up until that point, and just let the movie do its job.

I think expectation goes hand-in-hand with pre-conceived notions, after all, how you expect a film will turn out is basically your opinion on the film before you've seen it.  I do agree that hoping that those expectations will be challenged or reinforced is a different thing.  I'm hoping Transformers will be a good movie (I watch every movie like this), and I'll certainly be ready to give it a chance when I see it. 

[Pak-Man]

Yeah. If you convince yourself it's gonna blow, the whole viewing experiance is gonna be spent coiled up, waiting for something to pounce on so you can say, "SEE?"

[Tyrant]

   I'm 100% with Torgo. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a teeny bit worried about this movie, but that's mostly because TFs is so extremely near and dear to my heart. I mean, I love TFs more than Resident Evil, and anyone who knows me knows that's saying a lot about that franchise. I'm willing to lay aside my fan-girl tendencies and allow this movie to be what it's going to be. I may love it. I may hate it (well, not hate, but maybe be disapointed). It might be the greatest movie I've ever seen in my entire life.

  There's just no way to know from a 2 minute trailer and a few leaked photos, folks. Give it a chance.

[sarcasm_made_Easy]

speaking of fanboy/girl preconcieved notions.  What about the hitchhikers guide film.  I thought it was pretty good.  But it seems like everyone had gotten on the side of hatred well before it had come out.  which is a real shame.

[Tyrant]

speaking of fanboy/girl preconcieved notions.  What about the hitchhikers guide film.  I thought it was pretty good.  But it seems like everyone had gotten on the side of hatred well before it had come out.  which is a real shame.

  Thought it was awesome. I nearly screamed for joy when they used the old BBC themesong during the intro for the movie. Pak and I make a habit of not listening to critics when we go see movies. I might read up on commentary a bit beforehand, but it never affects our opinion in the end.

[Pak-Man]

LOVED Hitchhiker's Guide! It was like every other adaptation: Nothing like any other adaptation.

[torgosPizza]

I'll be honest, I didn't like HGTTG when it first came out (I saw it in theaters). But that was because I had just gotten done reading the books, so naturally I had high hopes - as well as the expectation that it would be more or less the first book. Which it wasn't.

However I went and saw it again, a couple weeks later with other people, and I just forgot about what I'd read, and loved it. Most likely because the book was so fresh in my head the first time, so the second time it wasn't as easily ruined by dashed expectations.

With that said, I have been staying away from all the TF message boards that I can. All I know is what I've seen with regard to character designs and some stills on-set, as well as the teaser trailer. And I'm 100% stoked.