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VOD choppy

Started by kasey15, May 22, 2009, 06:43:18 PM

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MSTJedi

I thought the sound being off was just from it being a bad movie . . . I suppose I'll have to download the new mpeg when it's available to check out the difference.


eegah

Thank you so much for doing this!  :clap:

MrTorso

Quote from: LucasM on June 03, 2009, 04:38:42 PM
Quote from: torgosPizza on May 22, 2009, 07:47:40 PM
Hmm, weird. Did anyone notice this on the DVD burn too? I have seen parts of it and it seemed fine to me... but it's hard to say. Don't really want to have to redo it (this'll be the third time, if we do) but we need to get it right.

Sorry, this is likely way too late, but I just saw this thread (linked from today's "20 ?s".  I'd discussed this with Conor via e-mails early on after its release, before anyone else was reporting a problem with it.  (Since the conclusion at that time was that nothing would be done to change it, I ended up giving up on the Download to Burn and buying a cheap copy of the DVD and getting the MP3 to go with it.)

Here is how I'd describe it:  The sound is ever-so-slightly (but disturbingly) out of synch, like it was a dubbed film or something.  The main problem, however, is with the video.  It looks like the mastering was done in such a way that only every-other frame was copied (and every frame that was copied was doubled).   So that it looks like a very early silent film (with ~12-14 fps motion).  Pretty much every second through the film is jerky, and looks like bad stop-motion animation: water, trees, people, the spaceships, all look bad (heck, the dinosaurs look smooth in comparison).  It was so distracting I could barely listen to what was being said (probably because of my low-level seizure activity: 'agitated' visuals aren't good).  I tried the disc in at least three different brands of DVD player (my 300-disc Pioneer changer, the Lite-On drive [Dell-installed] in my computer, and my Toshiba DVR/DVD recorder) and it did the same thing in each.  [I tried reburning it just in case it was a bad burn (to an RW so I wouldn't waste a disc), but ended up with the same thing.]

What DVD did you actually use? When watching my DVD (Retromedia) I get nothing like what you describe above. Yeah the print is splotchy and has some splices, the audio as is expected in a low budget film is not the best. I could tell it was overdubbed but it wasn't out of sync enough to bother me. 
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torgosPizza

No. Still need to upload it, and I learned that the renders aren't going as well as they ought to. Sorry... more delays. Will keep you posted.

LucasM

Quote from: MrTorso on June 03, 2009, 07:24:32 PM
Quote from: LucasM on June 03, 2009, 04:38:42 PM
Quote from: torgosPizza on May 22, 2009, 07:47:40 PM
Hmm, weird. Did anyone notice this on the DVD burn too? I have seen parts of it and it seemed fine to me... but it's hard to say. Don't really want to have to redo it (this'll be the third time, if we do) but we need to get it right.

Sorry, this is likely way too late, but I just saw this thread (linked from today's "20 ?s".  I'd discussed this with Conor via e-mails early on after its release, before anyone else was reporting a problem with it.  (Since the conclusion at that time was that nothing would be done to change it, I ended up giving up on the Download to Burn and buying a cheap copy of the DVD and getting the MP3 to go with it.)

Here is how I'd describe it:  The sound is ever-so-slightly (but disturbingly) out of synch, like it was a dubbed film or something.  The main problem, however, is with the video.  It looks like the mastering was done in such a way that only every-other frame was copied (and every frame that was copied was doubled).   So that it looks like a very early silent film (with ~12-14 fps motion).  Pretty much every second through the film is jerky, and looks like bad stop-motion animation: water, trees, people, the spaceships, all look bad (heck, the dinosaurs look smooth in comparison).  It was so distracting I could barely listen to what was being said (probably because of my low-level seizure activity: 'agitated' visuals aren't good).  I tried the disc in at least three different brands of DVD player (my 300-disc Pioneer changer, the Lite-On drive [Dell-installed] in my computer, and my Toshiba DVR/DVD recorder) and it did the same thing in each.  [I tried reburning it just in case it was a bad burn (to an RW so I wouldn't waste a disc), but ended up with the same thing.]

What DVD did you actually use? When watching my DVD (Retromedia) I get nothing like what you describe above. Yeah the print is splotchy and has some splices, the audio as is expected in a low budget film is not the best. I could tell it was overdubbed but it wasn't out of sync enough to bother me. 

I was referring to the Download to Burn, as that was what I thought was being asked about in what I quoted.
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MrTorso

Quote from: LucasM on June 04, 2009, 02:04:24 AM
I was referring to the Download to Burn, as that was what I thought was being asked about in what I quoted.

Whoops. I thought you were talking about your dvd.
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LucasM

Quote from: MrTorso on June 04, 2009, 05:25:31 AM
Quote from: LucasM on June 04, 2009, 02:04:24 AM
I was referring to the Download to Burn, as that was what I thought was being asked about in what I quoted.

Whoops. I thought you were talking about your dvd.

Sorry... I wasn't clear in what I wrote.  [people say I often write too much, and usually it is to prevent leaving out things like "the main point"... but thanks to the head injuries there are times - like this one - where it happens anyway.   :(  ]
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Red Tape

Just curious if there has been an update on the Download to burn yet. I haven't heard anything in a week and was hoping to get a good copy of this one to watch this weekend.

MSTJedi

So is the corrected VOD available, then? Torgos said it would be available the next day, but never said whether it was actually ready. I don't want to download all that again and have it be the same files.


torgosPizza

According to xrampage16 the new files should all be there. Feel free to re-download at your convenience.

MSTJedi



Red Tape

I watched the new burn to DVD download last night. It seems much better then before, but there are still a few spots here and there through the film that are choppy. Its not consistent though.

Not sure if you want to try to fix it yet again, but if you decide to, I'd probably redownload it again so that I'd have a cleaner copy.

torgosPizza

Probably won't, mainly because it would take quite some time. You have to go through the film cut by cut and fix it that way. We've redone it in-house about 6 or 7 times now (continued to see fielding issues, plus hardware issues on our end) and this is the cleanest copy we can make without slicing the whole thing up and doing it that way.

If it's unwatchable, we'll redo it, but I've seen the finished product and it's pretty easy on the eyes, IMO.

Red Tape

I agree. Its ok as is. At this point, the few remaining choppy parts are a bit distracting is all.

Bob

Anyone else notice new files for this dated 10/28/2009 in the "My Files" section?