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MontyServo

Quote from: Jacob T. Caboose on July 30, 2008, 01:43:58 PM
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2. Hopefully Robin doesn't show up at all, I find him lame IMO.

Christian Bale has been quoted in saying that he won't do any batmans that have Robin in them. I just can't find the quote.

I believe what he said was if they did a movie with Robin they'll be doing it without Batman, because he'll have chained himself to a radiator in protest.  Something along those lines anyway.

it took me forever to find this, but I knew I posted it before

Quote from: Jacob T. Caboose on July 03, 2008, 08:46:37 AM
all I know is, if Casey Kasem isn't Robin in the next one, I'm never seeing another Batman movie again!!

oh, nevermind

Quote"The Dark Knight" will be appearing in theaters on July 18th and while director Christopher Nolan has yet to confirm a third film, we have heard several times from Christian Bale that the Batman re-do will be a trilogy.

It seems that the third installment will bring back Two-Face, in addition to other villains. But will Batman be able to handle such deadly foes, or will he need the help from a caped crusader, Robin?

Luckily, Bale understands that introducing the lame sidekick in these amazing films is ludicrous and just in case Robin is ever given a chance to fight crime, he will have to do it alone, since Batman will be on strike.

"If Robin crops up in one of the new Batman films, I'll be chaining myself up somewhere and refusing to go to work," Bale told StarPulse. And we thank you.




Given the job that Nolan has done with the series so far, I'm sure his take on the Robin character would be just as awesome as all the other characters.

Robin is such an important part of the overall Batman mythology that it would be stupid to discount the character just because of some sort of hatred of the Ward/Kasem/or O'Donnell versions.

I'd bet we do see Robin in the third movie.

RoninFox

Robin became an important character in that he was an important tool in relating the dark loner character of Batman to younger audiences, which I don't think is necessary in this case.
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MontyServo

Quote from: RoninFox on July 30, 2008, 05:18:57 PM
Robin became an important character in that he was an important tool in relating the dark loner character of Batman to younger audiences, which I don't think is necessary in this case.

Well, Frank Miller included Robin in Dark Knight Returns.  I doubt it was to appeal to the younger audience.  More likely it was because Robin is an important part of the mythology.

Actually, the teenage female Robin from Dark Knight Returns would be an interesting choice for the next Nolan Batman film.  My point is that it is possible to have Robin in a dark and serious Batman story and have it work.


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yeah, but I like Christian Bale as Batman
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RoninFox

Quote from: MontyServo on July 30, 2008, 05:34:00 PM
Quote from: RoninFox on July 30, 2008, 05:18:57 PM
Robin became an important character in that he was an important tool in relating the dark loner character of Batman to younger audiences, which I don't think is necessary in this case.

Well, Frank Miller included Robin in Dark Knight Returns.  I doubt it was to appeal to the younger audience.  More likely it was because Robin is an important part of the mythology.

Actually, the teenage female Robin from Dark Knight Returns would be an interesting choice for the next Nolan Batman film.  My point is that it is possible to have Robin in a dark and serious Batman story and have it work.



Perhaps its not fair of me to claim that the kid appeal is the only reason for Robin, but I maintain it's the primary one.  There might be a good way to include him in this story, but I would point to the cautionary tale of Jason Todd when considering inserting a Robin in when the audience isn't on board with it.
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Junkyard

Ehh. Robin's a hard one to buy. He just doesn't fit into the movie setting, no matter how far you stretch the concept.

Fortis

Quote from: Junkyard on July 30, 2008, 06:08:17 PM
Ehh. Robin's a hard one to buy. He just doesn't fit into the movie setting, no matter how far you stretch the concept.

They could do a small comic relief moment in the next one, kind of like in Casino Royale, where the bar tender asks Bond if he likes his martini shaken or stirred, and Bond replied, "do I look like I care?"

So they could do kind of like the beginning of the Dark Knight where Batman saves this guy trying to help him out, and as Batman is leaving the guy could be like, "hey thanks for saving me, my name is Robin." and then Batman can look at him with contempt and say, "Go home Robin"

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QuoteAngelina Jolie (Wanted) has apparently made inquiries with movie executives about stepping into the role of Catwoman in the sequel to "The Dark Knight." Although nothing has been confirmed, Jolie already has the thumbs up from former Catwoman actress Julie Newmar, who told the New York Daily News: "Angelina would own the part."

Julie, 74, who played the feline villain in the 1960s Batman TV series, added: "My industry friends tell me [she] has made inquiries about the role. I can understand how it would pique her interest. Catwoman is Batman's one true love. She's tremendously popular with women because she's both a heroine and a villainess. When you look at the staggering box office of this current film, which actress wouldn't want to jump in?"

Big names in Hollywood have recently been eager to star in a comic book movie, but as with all rumors, we will have to wait and see. There is still no word that Catwoman would even appear in the third Christopher Nolan-directed Batman film. There is even no word on whether the film will be made at all. Stay tuned.
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Do they really think that even if they have to get another director Warners isn't going to want to try and cash in on how well TDK has done?

Courtney

It would really bother me if Angelina was in it.  She's not known for her acting by any stretch of the imagination and what's been great about these Nolan movies is that they've been real films.  Axing Katie Holmes for a real actress ensured the entire TDK cast was made up of truly talented people at the top of their game.  St. Angie can't cut it.



Chaos

I would never pay money to see a Batman movie with Jolie in it. She's a fucking hack.
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Courtney

Quote from: Chaos on July 30, 2008, 08:08:38 PM
She's a fucking hack.

That's essentially what I was trying to say, but sometimes I get called out for being slightly ranty-bitchy, so I thought I'd try the calm explanation look on for size.   ;)

But yeah, she's a fucking hack. 



pezdrake

I always prefer less superstars in my movies.   Angie is a hottie no doubt but not Catwoman,  How about...

Ellen Page?
Eliza Dushku?

Both can play tough smartasses intelligent enough to challenge Batman.



MontyServo

Quote from: MontyServo on July 30, 2008, 05:34:00 PM
Actually, the teenage female Robin from Dark Knight Returns would be an interesting choice for the next Nolan Batman film. 

Quote from: pezdrake on July 30, 2008, 08:59:12 PM
I always prefer less superstars in my movies.   Angie is a hottie no doubt but not Catwoman,  How about...

Ellen Page?

Hmmmm......  I don't see her as Catwoman.  But how about as Robin?  If that was the way they were going to go (with the Dark Knight Returns Robin), I could definitely see Ellen Page in the role.

Catwoman?  How about Marion Cotillard? Cate Blanchett?  Hilary Swank?

I agree about Jolie as Catwoman.  That is the type of stunt casting that killed the 90's Batman movies.  No movie stars need apply, just top drawer actresses please.

Courtney

Quote from: MontyServo on July 30, 2008, 09:15:49 PM
Catwoman?  How about Marion Cotillard?

I could get behind that in a heartbeat.  And actually, if she wasn't already Rachel Dawes, I'd say Maggie G. would be an incredible Catwoman.  I'd also throw Elizabeth Reaser into the mix.