The Dark Knight (SPOILERS)

[Hebs]

Did anyone else catch the moment with Gordon
when he briefly lapses into an English accent?  It shows that Oldman really gets passionate when acting - it's a rooftop scene when he is yelling at Batman.

Probably unnoticed since like everyone on set was pretty much across the pond


The entire audience cheered
when Gordon came back from the dead.

I was surprised that Lt. Ramirez wasn't Montoya.  But after what she did, it's probably best that it's not the same character.

[jasimon1]

I can only echo everything that's already been said. The only thing I can add is that I got really excited when the very first shot in the entire movie was of the building I work in. We got to watch them filming the beginning bank job and it was really cool seeing it translated onto the screen.

[daltysmilth]

Well, the Scarecrow could still be a major presence if and when they make a third movie.  Maybe he and Batman will finally get the climactic showdown that the Scarecrow deserves.  And if they did decide to recast the Joker... okay, this just popped into my head, but what about Elijah Wood?  I think he could pull it off.

Did anyone else catch the moment with Gordon
when he briefly lapses into an English accent?  It shows that Oldman really gets passionate when acting - it's a rooftop scene when he is yelling at Batman.

Probably unnoticed since like everyone on set was pretty much across the pond

Actually, yeah, I did notice that!  I'm surprised someone didn't catch that before it went to theatres.

[Thorns of Crimson Death]

I just came back from seeing it again and yes, I noticed Coleman bust out his normal accent on the rooftop.  I thought I caught it the first time around and confirmed it here.

[Cosmic Muse]

I hope they don't go with a villain for the third film. 

Batman is the villain.  Gordon's "hunt" for him and his redemption would be movie enough for the next one.

Got to disagree, and more on that in a mo

Which means if they want a big name baddie the next would be the Riddler who I can see fitting into this quite well. I also have an idea about casting that role but I'll think more on that before sharing.

You know, I partially agree with A Pretty Girl Is Like. It would be interesting to see people view Batman as a villain, when in actuality the violent vigilante crimes were being perpetuated instead by

Spoiler

the original Azrael.



Just like R'as Nolan could downplay some of the more implausible facets of this character and make him more realistic. I think Azrael, as complicated a character as he is would be the perfect antithesis to Batman. They both share quite a few similarities as well, with the Order of St. Dumas being akin to The League of Shadows.

[Pak-Man]

I kinda don't know if I should feel bad for laughing at nearly everything the joker did in this movie, the magic trick, the jacket full of grenades, the hospital scene, all of it, okay

I laughed too, as I usually do to those kinds of scenes, and for the first time I can remember I actually felt like amusement was the wrong thing to be feeling. Other people in the theater seemed to be having the same thoughts. I think it's a credit to the tone of the movie and the writing of the characters that the Joker's craziness wasn't funny as much as it was creepy.

After the magic trick, once I stopped laughing I started thinking "Holy shit, this guy's serious".

That, to me, is what makes this Joker THE Joker. I think everyone takes something different from the Joker. There's the fact that he's nuttier than a fruitcake. There's the fact that he makes the perfect foil for Batman's stern exterior and good interior. To me, what makes a good Joker is that you get so lost and fascinated by him, that when he does something horrible, you find yourself laughing. The horror that follows when you realize "Oh my gosh. I just laughed at a man getting a pencil jammed through his brain" is really what the Joker's all about. The Joker, when executed properly (And this is what The Animated Series did especially well) shares his twisted sense of humor with the audience. He does horrible, unspeakable things and makes you laugh at it. This was astonishingly well done in this movie, and I loved that aspect of the performance.

[Chaos]

After the magic trick, once I stopped laughing I started thinking "Holy shit, this guy's serious".

That, to me, is what makes this Joker THE Joker. I think everyone takes something different from the Joker. There's the fact that he's nuttier than a fruitcake. There's the fact that he makes the perfect foil for Batman's stern exterior and good interior. To me, what makes a good Joker is that you get so lost and fascinated by him, that when he does something horrible, you find yourself laughing. The horror that follows when you realize "Oh my gosh. I just laughed at a man getting a pencil jammed through his brain" is really what the Joker's all about. The Joker, when executed properly (And this is what The Animated Series did especially well) shares his twisted sense of humor with the audience. He does horrible, unspeakable things and makes you laugh at it. This was astonishingly well done in this movie, and I loved that aspect of the performance.

QFT.

That was the real beauty of Ledger's Joker. For just that couple of seconds, he made YOU react to his behaviour the same way that HE did. You shared his amusement for just long enough to then realize... oh shit, did he just do that?

Never give them what they expect.

[bettertomorrowamy]

The only thing that really bothered was that Gotham looked so much like Chicago.  Obviously it was supposed to, but I don't think Gotham would have been cleaned up that fast from the first movie.  The architecture was SO dissimilar from the first movie that it didn't feel like the a Batman movie, but more like the recent Spiderman movies.  Maybe it was because everything took place at night in the first movie, and in this one lots of it took place in daylight.

Otherwise, I liked it but it was a little bit too long.

[Tripe]

Maybe it was because everything took place at night in the first movie, and in this one lots of it took place in daylight.

I think that might be the reason, I think they filmed in Chicago for Batman Begins as well, there is a certain expectation of a Gothic nature to Batman, and it's difficult to maintain the Gothic touches in the cruel light of day.

I liked the daylight scenes myself, I liked the more realistic seeming (because obviously we're not really dealing with true realism, hence the costumed criminals and crime fighters) depiction of Gotham.

[Petey Wheatstraw]

#1 on the IMDb's Top 250:

http://www.imdb.com/chart/top?tt0468569

[SmilinJackRoss]

#1 on the IMDb's Top 250:

http://www.imdb.com/chart/top?tt0468569

It'll even out, that list is always in flux.

But I bet it stays in the top 10 for awhile.

[pezdrake]

I agree that keeping the cartoony element out of it is essential to making a good movie.  

As far as future stories they could easily do a variation of Batman: Dark Victory since they have already included Two-Face and the Falcone families, thought it would require the introduction of Catwoman and Robin, not easy to do alone much less in the same movie.  

The Long Halloween might also be a great one if adapted right.

Victor Zsaz, a non-superpeowered serial killer but so close to that insane murderer type that it might feel like a Joker wannabe.

As far as Batman's rogues go, Riddler and the Mad Hatter might both make that good transfer to the Nolan screen.  

[Courtney]

Maybe it was because everything took place at night in the first movie, and in this one lots of it took place in daylight.

I think they filmed in Chicago for Batman Begins as well

They did indeed.  They filmed a bunch of stuff in and around Wicker Park, where I was living at the time.  And a lot of TDK was filmed around (and on top of - they shot a bunch on the roof) of my office.  

As a Chicago girl, I love that they really didn't change much or add much to make Chicago more Gotham-y.  Not even the signs on buildings (Hotel Amalfi, Hotel Monaco, the 7th day Church on Wacker).  

[jasimon1]

Maybe it was because everything took place at night in the first movie, and in this one lots of it took place in daylight.

I think they filmed in Chicago for Batman Begins as well

They did indeed.  They filmed a bunch of stuff in and around Wicker Park, where I was living at the time.  And a lot of TDK was filmed around (and on top of - they shot a bunch on the roof) of my office.  

As a Chicago girl, I love that they really didn't change much or add much to make Chicago more Gotham-y.  Not even the signs on buildings (Hotel Amalfi, Hotel Monaco, the 7th day Church on Wacker).  

I was just taking about this with a co-worker. Some of the Chicago things annoyed me. For instance, Harvey Dent and the Mayor's office were right next to each other. They obviously filmed them on the same floor of a building just with different views out the windows so it looked to any non-Chicagoans that it was different places. I kinda felt cheated because I wasn't able to get into the movie as much as someone who doesn't walk down those streets every day.

[SmilinJackRoss]

I'm curious about the hospital
that they blew up.  As far as I could tell, they really did that, that was a real demolition of a real building.  Was that an existing building?  Was it in Chicago?  Or did they just build a facade and then destroy that?

Either way, it's the best effect in the whole movie, without a doubt.