the bible

[anais.jude]

*This is not about the Bible as a religious text, only as a piece of literature. If anybody brings religion onto this board, I will be forced to hilk out on thee*


Are there any people in the Bible that refer to themselves in the 3rd person? (like Mr. T)

[Tripe]

Well Jesus for one.

Also which translation?

[sarcasm_made_Easy]

isnt asking for the bible to be discussed without the religion a bit like talking about moby dick without the metaphor or the whale?

[Tripe]

Well, not really, obviously it is a religious text, but its not only a religious text, once it was translated into the vernacular it was opened to literary interpretation and manipulation that other texts aren't as open to.

As each translation has been created choices were made over which particular word to use and often those were ascetic/literary choices rather than theological ones.

[sarcasm_made_Easy]

yeah ive heard this before but i still think it loses a bunch by viewing that way.  i think that reading moby dick wthout seeing his overall metaphor would be about the same. 

[Tripe]

No nobody is saying this is the only way to understand the bible, just as one loses a lot from À la recherche du temps perdu by only focusing on the madalins but you can still generate a discussion about it that is worthwhile and interesting.

And really if discussing the bible as literature isn't interesting to you you don't have to do it, I mean nobody is forcing you to, but equally speaking you can't insist that people turn every discussion on the literary text that is the bible into one of theology.

[RoninFox]

Thanks to this thread I'm getting google ads for free e-books about the apocalypse from a Christian group that seems to think it's funny...but still want to warn me I'm going to hell.

I hope you're all happy.

[Tripe]

Hmm your post gave me an ad about dark times in the Star Wars universe hmmmmmm

[sarcasm_made_Easy]

those are related  (armegeddon and star wars)

but im not saying we need not look at it from a literary perspective i just think they are basically linked.  to view one you need to also at least lightly look at the other.  thats all im saying. 

[RoninFox]

Hmm your post gave me an ad about dark times in the Star Wars universe hmmmmmm

Dark times called prequels?   

So anyway, this bible thing...

[RVR II]

I'm getting a "Jericho" banner

[Tripe]

but im not saying we need not look at it from a literary perspective i just think they are basically linked.  to view one you need to also at least lightly look at the other.  thats all im saying. 

Oh yes that's true i think what Anais didn't want was arguments about the spiritual nature of the bible: Literal Inspired Word of God, Inspired By God, Words written About God, the rambling gibberish of stoned Sheppard that sort of argument.

[sarcasm_made_Easy]

well why would we?  afterall we all know dianetics is true?

[Tripe]

Heretic, Lady Eris is the true God!!!!!!!

[esoobaC .T bocaJ]

like, totally