The Dark Knight (SPOILERS)

[Quicksilver]

The real lesson is, people should know their own limits and not do substances that could harm them, everyone is different.

I smoked 3 minutes ago and feel great.......but that's just me. I've know a lot of people that cannot get high and others that really should not.

[bratpop]

Yeah, people. Know your limits. To find out your limits, try each and every drug and substance you can get your hands on. All at once if possible.

[esoobaC .T bocaJ]

I have nothing to add on drugs,still trying to steer this thread back on topic, not that it matters.

About a week ago, Warner Bros kicked off a new viral campaign for "The Dark Knight," focusing more on Harvey Dent rather than The Joker. By visiting IBelieveInHarveyDent.com fans were able to submit their email address and telephone number and in return a message was emailed stating: "Together, we have the power to take back Gotham. In just a few days, you'll find out how."

Today, I noticed that someone has been trying to reach me all day on my cell phone, from number "000-000-0000." The next time I got the call, I picked up and heard a prerecording from Harvey Dent, explaining that he is ready to fight for Gotham and that he needs my help. One of the way to do so, is to visit IBelieveHarveyDent.com.

Since I want to be a good citizen of Gotham, I went to the site and saw that it has been updated yet again. This time it is set up as Dent's official campaign site, where he asks for your support. Some of the things you can do is to spell "Harvey Dent" in human letters, arrange a Dent parade and more. In addition, he will be hitting the road in a Dent mobile and possibly coming to a town near you.

alright ignore this and resume your drug talk

[RoninFox]

Dang, the one thing I didn't do when I signed up was give my phone number, that would have been great to get that phone call.

[Quicksilver]

Yeah, people. Know your limits. To find out your limits, try each and every drug and substance you can get your hands on. All at once if possible.

Luckily some drugs dont have limits per say, you just shouldnt do them.......ever. When you take ambien you just need to follow these steps, hide your keys, turn off the gas, lock up the chain saw and cordless drill get in bed and then take the pill.

I disagree with the alcohol comment, I dont think I've ever really drank and known what was going to happen. At least when you pop an ambien, you know you should not under any circumstances do this this and this, but alcohol there are levels of intoxication, which can lead to anything happening. With ambien, you know you might do certain things, but you wont beat your wife, drive a car into a tree at 80mph(8mph with  ambien), start a knife fight wife some woman named earl and/or anything imaginable.

Really I just feel really bad for Mr. Ledger, I feel like I know what he was going through, with ridiculous work schedules, outside stresses and a cabinet full of pill bottles. Not that I ever had that many scripts at one time, but I've been scripted everything on this list at one time or another. Insomnia is a horrible thing to have and any requiring pain meds is equal or worse. All I think of is him having to lets say get everyday at .... work for 14 hours or so, and try to get to sleep for the next day and repeat this process for a few months.  I'll stop there, it's a shame

The movie however does look pretty cool.

[MSTJedi]

I disagree with the alcohol comment, I dont think I've ever really drank and known what was going to happen. At least when you pop an ambien, you know you should not under any circumstances do this this and this, but alcohol there are levels of intoxication, which can lead to anything happening. With ambien, you know you might do certain things, but you wont beat your wife, drive a car into a tree at 80mph(8mph with  ambien), start a knife fight wife some woman named earl and/or anything imaginable.

Well, part of the "planning" I spoke of was planning to not get sh*t-faced drunk in the first place. There's developing a nice buzz and then there's peeing in the parking lot and puking behind the dumpster. It's all about keeping in control of the situation. I do realize that there are some people who are naturally disposed to not have any control and therefore should not drink at all. My issue with Ambien is that it seems that you have little control over what it'll make you do.

[Quicksilver]

hate to continue going off topic but it's an interesting topic. I honestly cannot comprehend how someone gets in their car and drives on the stuff. I feel as though there are a few random one in a million occurrences where someone really didn't know what they were doing and other times, when someone consciously made the decision and blamed the drug.

I mean the most involuntary thing it has made me do was cook. Here's the catch in all the cases I just wanted something to eat and then decided to get fancy and cook something. I did make the decision,  it is hard to tell how shit faced you are. Also, I felt it was safe to cook and being it's happened a couple times, nothing negative occurred due to this action.

I think it comes down to your ability to retain judgment under the influence and some people dont have it. Maybe these people who take ambien and drive are the same people that are likely to drive on alcohol. You know what I'm saying? This almost comes down to the sheer number of people taking ambien and the small percentage of those that dont know how powerful it is. People should just be informed by the doctor to really watch out for odd reactions. I can tell you I wasnt, but I research anything I put in my body.

I'll agree with you on a level, this drug should not be prescribed like candy to anyone that comes in saying they cannot sleep. It should be a last hope for someone with chronic insomnia, not just for random acute insomnia.

I've had insomnia since I was 13, had been taking tylenol PM for years, then that didnt work so the doctors put me on xanax and anti-depressants to sedate me, then different anti-depressants and klonopin, then sonata, then lunesta, finally arriving at ambien. I hate this, but the stuff works and gets me to my job and keeps my mood stable(since I can sleep). Basically I'll never be normal.

In all I dont really think ambien directly related to heath's death, it might have played a part, but I can tell you oxycontin and xanax were most likely the cause. They will kill you easily in the right mixture and with the other drugs combined.

Sorry got a bit rambly

[Thorns of Crimson Death]

My only concern about this situation now is that if Heath Ledger did in fact play the Joker well, then what's to be of the character in future installments of this incarnation of Batman?  Do they kill him off in this film?  And if not then who would replace Ledger?  We'll find out in a few months I suppose when the movie finally comes out.

[bettertomorrowamy]

Jack Nicholson?

[Thorns of Crimson Death]

Jack Nicholson?

HAHA!    Seriously though, I loved Jack as the Joker the first time around but if Ledger is as good as people are saying then they'll be hard-pressed to replace him.

[bettertomorrowamy]

CGI my friend, CGI.

[bratpop]

I don't think anyone informed has been able to say whether he's "as good as" anything. People on the internet (not informed) have been ass-uming he's brilliant based on the trailers and that's it. That, and hatred of Jack Nicholson. I'll be glad for the chance to see someone else try the role (after Heath) but my testicles will probably be around my ankles before then.

[Thorns of Crimson Death]

I don't think anyone informed has been able to say whether he's "as good as" anything. People on the internet (not informed) have been ass-uming he's brilliant based on the trailers and that's it. That, and hatred of Jack Nicholson. I'll be glad for the chance to see someone else try the role (after Heath) but my testicles will probably be around my ankles before then.

No, I agree, at this point it is simply hype and speculation that he plays the role well.  It will also be interesting to know if they changed anything after his untimely demise.

[Quicksilver]

CGI my friend, CGI.

So exactly how they handled this situation in Plan9!

[bettertomorrowamy]

CGI my friend, CGI.

So exactly how they handled this situation in Plan9!

That was a Cape Concealed Image.