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Nexus Logic

Started by Conor, July 03, 2007, 02:27:02 PM

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ManosCK

Well, Uncle Rick had said at the time, when asked why the Guardian of Forever wasn't used, he called it a "cheap plot device." 

Yep, that "cheap plot device" from arguably the most popular episode of the original series, which also won a Hugo award and was penned by one of the greatest SF writers of all time.

His answer: to come up with a cheesy way to do pretty much the same thing, albeit with no "rules."  Because hey, when you're killing off a legend, you may as well ignore all the good stuff that came before (that wasn't created on your watch).

I've purchased the riff, but haven't had the chance to watch it with the film yet.  I can't wait.

SharpMonkey

Quote from: estwald on July 08, 2007, 09:47:51 AM
And why can't Soron just fly a ship into the nexus? Yes, Picard points out that ships that do this are destroyed, but isn't that how Soran entered the Nexus originally? By having his ship caught in it?

:clap:
I remember thinking to myself "At what point in Soran's career as a mad scientist did blowing up a sun and destroying a handful of planets sound easier than building a very tall ladder?". 

Just Some Guy

And while I'm not pro-appeasing star destroying mad scientists you would think it would be much easier to end this when the plan was discovered.  All Picard had to do was say "Hey Soran, no need to destroy the star; I'll give you a shuttle craft!  We go through them like potato chips anyway."


Junkyard

Also, how much extra work would it have been to direct the ribbon through the habitated planet, so everybody could be happy, instead of dead?

RVR II

Well wouldn't That 've just made for the Happiest of endings..
Like seeing a puppy running..

J-Proof

I didn't read all of the posts in this thread, but I think the most obvious flaw in the plot, given that the Nexus will bring you back to whatever time you want to be, is that Picard goes back to like, five minutes before the universe goes kablowee..... Hell, transport back an hour, three hours -- or even go back several years and assassinate Soran before any of this even happens.......
J to the Pizzo
P to the Jizzay...

Bob

Quote from: J-Proof on July 11, 2007, 10:29:02 AM
I didn't read all of the posts in this thread, but I think the most obvious flaw in the plot, given that the Nexus will bring you back to whatever time you want to be, is that Picard goes back to like, five minutes before the universe goes kablowee..... Hell, transport back an hour, three hours -- or even go back several years and assassinate Soran before any of this even happens.......

Or before his nephew gets killed.   DUH Picard.

Quicksilver

being what a heated debate matters of space and time create, you'd think the writers could have thought of something slightly more logical.
The Ood: The Beast and his armies will rise from the pit to make war against God.
Rose: I'm sorry?
The Ood: Apologies. I said: I hope you enjoy your meal.

Tony Farms AKA Puma Man

Quote from: PSLOwner on July 11, 2007, 04:17:30 PM
Quote from: J-Proof on July 11, 2007, 10:29:02 AM
I didn't read all of the posts in this thread, but I think the most obvious flaw in the plot, given that the Nexus will bring you back to whatever time you want to be, is that Picard goes back to like, five minutes before the universe goes kablowee..... Hell, transport back an hour, three hours -- or even go back several years and assassinate Soran before any of this even happens.......

Or before his nephew gets killed.   DUH Picard.

Or back when he had hair.

Rude

Quote from: Tony Farms AKA Puma ManOr back when he had hair.

Picard never had hair... Geez~

-Rude
"I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids."http://www.divshare.com/flash/audio?myId=3942804-0e3

Principal_Skin-trade

Quote from: Rude on July 11, 2007, 08:25:02 PM
Picard never had hair... Geez~
-Rude
Actually, Picard did have hair when he was a youngster at Starfleet Academy... see the episode "Tapestry".

Tripe

Quote from: Principal_Skin-trade on July 12, 2007, 12:18:26 AM
Quote from: Rude on July 11, 2007, 08:25:02 PM
Picard never had hair... Geez~
-Rude
Actually, Picard did have hair when he was a youngster at Starfleet Academy... see the episode "Tapestry".

Here he is relaxing with a fellow cadet prior to final exams ;)

Not just hair but a beard as well.

Rude

Quote from: Principal_Skin-tradeActually, Picard did have hair when he was a youngster at Starfleet Academy... see the episode "Tapestry".
Quote from: TripeHoundReduxNot just hair but a beard as well.

Lies, Lies, Lies! I'll never believe you! Picard was always old, distinguished and bald! ALWAYS!

La, la,la... I can't hear you.
La, la, la... filthy liars.


-Rude

PS- How funny that the episode featuring Picard with hair was called "Tapestry"
"I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids."http://www.divshare.com/flash/audio?myId=3942804-0e3

Tripe

Quote from: Rude on July 12, 2007, 08:36:47 AM
Quote from: Principal_Skin-tradeActually, Picard did have hair when he was a youngster at Starfleet Academy... see the episode "Tapestry".
PS- How funny that the episode featuring Picard with hair was called "Tapestry"

I think it was originally going to be called Rug

Principal_Skin-trade

Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on July 12, 2007, 08:41:02 AM
I think it was originally going to be called Rug
Well in this case, the word "Tapestry" was meant to be used as a metaphor. So calling it "Rug" would have been just plain wrong
because as far as I know, nobody uses the word "Rug" as a metaphor for anything at all, except for maybe the expression, "Hocking
a rugie,", but that is stretching the imagination a little methinks.