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Title: Starship Dave
Post by: tardoid7 on October 18, 2006, 01:51:33 PM
I'm suprised no one here has mentioned it yet, but Eddie Murphy is going to be starring in the movie Starship Dave co-written by Riffer Bill Corbett
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: WouTar on October 18, 2006, 01:52:39 PM
As long as it isn't the sequel to Pluto Nash I'd say we're in the clear.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: SmilinJackRoss on October 18, 2006, 01:54:20 PM
Link?  imdb doesn't have the writers credited yet.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on October 18, 2006, 01:59:06 PM
The movie has one heck of a weird premise:

"'Starship Dave' is the story of a crew of miniature, human-looking aliens who are seeking a way to save their doomed world. Murphy will play the human spacecraft they travel in (Starship Dave) as well as the ship's captain."

I leave it in the very capable hands of Mr. Corbett to deliver the gold!
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Tarantulas on October 18, 2006, 02:05:10 PM
It's "Innerspace" meets "That episode of Futurama where Bender was out in space and all the little people created a world all over his body, but then he met god and realised you have to take a light hand in your god based RTS or otherwise everyone dies"
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: MrTorso on October 18, 2006, 02:15:12 PM
Quote from: Smilin Jack Ross on October 18, 2006, 01:54:20 PM
Link?  imdb doesn't have the writers credited yet.


There has been mention of it over at mst3k.com. There is actually new tidbit about since they got a new director.

Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Cap'n UKRiffer on October 18, 2006, 02:27:57 PM
This sounded alright until they decided to let Eddie Murphy star... man, does that guy just plain suck
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Sharktopus on October 18, 2006, 11:58:46 PM
Quote from: Tarantulas on October 18, 2006, 02:05:10 PM
It's "Innerspace" meets "That episode of Futurama where Bender was out in space and all the little people created a world all over his body, but then he met god and realised you have to take a light hand in your god based RTS or otherwise everyone dies"

Actually I'd compare it more to the Futurama where Fry eats a bad egg salad sammich from a truck stop vending machine and gets parasitic worms that make him smarter and stronger.

Manoman, do I love Futurama.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: mrbasehart on October 19, 2006, 09:11:35 AM
Ehn.  I like Bill, but Eddie Murphy hasn't made a really good movie in a long while.  Let's hope it's not another Pluto Nash.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on October 19, 2006, 09:19:11 AM
Quote from: mrbasehart on October 19, 2006, 09:11:35 AM
Let's hope it's not another Pluto Nash.

Am I the only human being on the planet who actually liked Pluto Nash??

:(
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Cap'n UKRiffer on October 19, 2006, 09:21:07 AM
Quote from: kodiakthejuggler on October 19, 2006, 09:19:11 AM
Am I the only human being on the planet who actually liked Pluto Nash??

:(

Probably  ;D We won't hold it against you though... for too long  ;)
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on October 19, 2006, 09:30:08 AM
Quote from: mrbasehart on October 19, 2006, 09:11:35 AMLet's hope it's not another Pluto Nash.

The Adventures of Pluto Nash has caused human beings to bleed heavily from their eyelids. I can't see how Starship Dave could achieve that level of awfulness.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: mrbasehart on October 19, 2006, 09:36:13 AM
Quote from: kodiakthejuggler on October 19, 2006, 09:19:11 AM
Am I the only human being on the planet who actually liked Pluto Nash??

I didn't hate it.  It just wasn't a film that came close to entertaining me in any way.  Not it a good way or bad way.

I like Rosario Dawson though.   ;)
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: SmilinJackRoss on October 19, 2006, 09:41:46 AM
Quote from: UKRiffer on October 18, 2006, 02:27:57 PM
This sounded alright until they decided to let Eddie Murphy star... man, does that guy just plain suck

It's true that Murphy hasn't done anything good recently, but you can't say he sucks.  I still respect the guy for his brilliant stand-up special Raw, as well as Beverly Hills Cop, which is one of the funniest comedies of the 80's.  And Bowfinger wasn't too bad either.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Cap'n UKRiffer on October 19, 2006, 09:47:56 AM
Quote from: Smilin Jack Ross on October 19, 2006, 09:41:46 AM
Quote from: UKRiffer on October 18, 2006, 02:27:57 PM
This sounded alright until they decided to let Eddie Murphy star... man, does that guy just plain suck

It's true that Murphy hasn't done anything good recently, but you can't say he sucks.  I still respect the guy for his brilliant stand-up special Raw, as well as Beverly Hills Cop, which is one of the funniest comedies of the 80's.  And Bowfinger wasn't too bad either.

Well you can argue that he sucks NOW compared to then. Yes 'Beverly Hills Cop' was a classic and the sequels weren't bad but if consider
The Adventures Of Pluto Nash
Haunted Mansion
Daddy Day Care
Showtime
I Spy
You can see where i'm coming from...
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: SmilinJackRoss on October 19, 2006, 10:45:59 AM
Quote from: UKRiffer on October 19, 2006, 09:47:56 AM
Well you can argue that he sucks NOW compared to then. Yes 'Beverly Hills Cop' was a classic and the sequels weren't bad but if consider
The Adventures Of Pluto Nash
Haunted Mansion
Daddy Day Care
Showtime
I Spy
You can see where i'm coming from...


Without a doubt, the Eddie Murphy train has derailed.....crashed into the mountain....burned to a crisp.......and the ashes have been blown into the wind.  Who is this guy's agent?  He needs to seriously reinvent himself, because he is so much better than the dreck he has been in lately.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Cibernético II on October 19, 2006, 10:50:40 AM
Quote from: kodiakthejuggler on October 19, 2006, 09:19:11 AM

Am I the only human being on the planet who actually liked Pluto Nash??

:(

I liked it too. It had a fun, catoony quality to it
Title: This premise is ripe for fart jokes...
Post by: a pretty girl is like on October 19, 2006, 07:09:09 PM
IN SPACE!

The funny just writes itself sometimes.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: BlackbeardonGuitar on October 20, 2006, 09:40:27 AM
Murphy's like a caricature of himself now.  It's quite possible he could ruin even the best screenplay by hamming it up and acting down to the audience. 
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on March 25, 2008, 09:15:11 AM
I posted this in the "Mike and the guys should write a screenplay thread", but it would be better suited here so again


MEET DAVE

Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: mrbasehart on March 25, 2008, 07:33:47 PM
Well, it looks better than most recent Eddie Murphy movies.  I wonder what Bill thinks of it...?
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Sheik Yerbouti on March 25, 2008, 08:57:41 PM
Oh wow... I just don't know.  Anyone else notice that they're using that big, fat red Daddy Day Care font?  Is it just me or has every Eddie Murphy movie in recent memory used that same font?  And all those movies sucked.  Coincidence?  And is it somewhere in Eddie Murphy's contract that he has to play at least two versions of himself in every movie now?

This has got to be so strange for Bill.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: bratpop on March 26, 2008, 12:48:54 AM
Do you think if I sent that voiceover guy a nice letter, he would... die? He ruins every movie. I wonder if he really talks like that.

"It's not how he looks on the outside..."

Oh, really? Uh. What do you mean? I mean, that is how he looks on the outside, isn't it? I don't see how you could suggest that he looks any differe..."

"...it's what's inside..."

Uh...

"...that counts."

Oh, I see. You... weren't done talking yet. So... should I wait thirty seconds to see if your sentence is finished? Could you just say "period" when you're done?

Stupid announcer guy.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on March 26, 2008, 05:44:18 AM
Quote from: mrbasehart on March 25, 2008, 07:33:47 PM
Well, it looks better than most recent Eddie Murphy movies.  I wonder what Bill thinks of it...?

well, you could ask him on the blog
:)
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: bratpop on March 26, 2008, 06:30:26 AM
I'm sure if Bill wants to work again, he will tell you truthfully what he thinks of the movie. ;)
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Edgewriter on March 26, 2008, 02:16:21 PM
Better quality Video version:

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809846742/video/7110605/20080324/126/7110605-700-flash-s.61093246-,7110605-1000-wmv-s.61093238-,7110605-1000-flash-s.61093248-,7110605-100-wmv-s.61093231-,7110605-300-wmv-s.61093233-,7110605-100-flash-s.61093243-,7110605-300-flash-s.61093244-,7110605-700-wmv-s.61093236-,7110604-10300-qtv-s.61093254-,7110604-2700-qtv-s.61093250-,7110604-6800-qtv-s.61093252- (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809846742/video/7110605/20080324/126/7110605-700-flash-s.61093246-,7110605-1000-wmv-s.61093238-,7110605-1000-flash-s.61093248-,7110605-100-wmv-s.61093231-,7110605-300-wmv-s.61093233-,7110605-100-flash-s.61093243-,7110605-300-flash-s.61093244-,7110605-700-wmv-s.61093236-,7110604-10300-qtv-s.61093254-,7110604-2700-qtv-s.61093250-,7110604-6800-qtv-s.61093252-)
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on March 26, 2008, 02:20:36 PM
why settle for better Quality, when you can have High Definition

;D

It's "lengthened for quality"
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Bob on March 26, 2008, 04:06:01 PM
Looks promising...... classic "fish out of water" comedy.

Looks promising for what it does NOT have:

1.   Eddie Murphy in a fat suit.
2.   No cloying kids
3.   No fart jokes
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on March 26, 2008, 04:09:36 PM
Quote from: PSLOwner on March 26, 2008, 04:06:01 PM
Looks promising...... classic "fish out of water" comedy.

Looks promising for what it does NOT have:

1.   Eddie Murphy in a fat suit.
2.   No cloying kids
3.   No fart jokes

none that you can see from the trailer at least
;)
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Bob on March 26, 2008, 04:15:07 PM
Quote from: jacobtaylor on March 26, 2008, 04:09:36 PM
Quote from: PSLOwner on March 26, 2008, 04:06:01 PM
Looks promising...... classic "fish out of water" comedy.

Looks promising for what it does NOT have:

1.   Eddie Murphy in a fat suit.
2.   No cloying kids
3.   No fart jokes

none that you can see from the trailer at least
;)


And since those three things were the ONLY thing shown in his previous trailers, I have hope.

Besides, Bill knows better.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: bratpop on March 26, 2008, 08:50:31 PM
Fish: "Irene! Where's my Evian?"
Irene: "We just ran out of water, sir."
Fish: "NOOOOOOOOOOO!"

Previously on Murphyville...

Agent: "I got it. I got your next script right here, Eddie."
EM: "What I get to do?"
Agent: "You get to be INSIDE yourself."
EM: "YES! Finally."

Next week on Murphyville...

Bill Corbett: "You butchered my script! Now I'm going to butcher you! MWUAHAHAHA!"
EM: "Help! Somebody call a Beverly Hills cop!"
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Pak-Man on March 27, 2008, 08:14:03 AM
Think they'll do a Rifftrax for it? :^)
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Darth Geek on March 27, 2008, 09:59:35 AM
Is this the real reason for Bill's bacon insanity?
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on March 27, 2008, 10:07:09 AM
ask him
;D



I'm in full support of the Anti-Bacon movement
;D
(https://forum.rifftrax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages1.wikia.nocookie.net%2Funcyclopedia%2Fimages%2Fthumb%2Fb%2Fb0%2FBACONist-manifesto-lg.jpg%2F150px-BACONist-manifesto-lg.jpg&hash=4c86c657b7fcc107a4b3d4f6c5c113a38d26b5a2)

Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: ScottotD on April 24, 2008, 10:51:46 PM
Quote from: bratpop on March 26, 2008, 08:50:31 PM
Bill Corbett: "You butchered my script! Now I'm going to butcher you! MWUAHAHAHA!"
EM: "Help! Somebody call a Beverly Hills cop!"

So if it's bad we're blaming Murphy?  I'm no fan, besides Trading Places I can't think of a movie of his I've liked but that seems a cop out to me.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: bratpop on April 24, 2008, 11:24:32 PM
Well, if I blame Bill, then I'd have to blame Tom Lennon and Ben Garrant for all the crappy movies they've written. I mean, I do, don't get me wrong, but since I don't really care about those movies it doesn't bug me that they did a little sumpin sumpin on the side for the benjamins. Whorin' ain't easy.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on April 25, 2008, 02:26:21 PM
Quote from: Cap'n UKRiffer on October 19, 2006, 09:47:56 AM
Quote from: Smilin Jack Ross on October 19, 2006, 09:41:46 AM
Quote from: UKRiffer on October 18, 2006, 02:27:57 PM
This sounded alright until they decided to let Eddie Murphy star... man, does that guy just plain suck

It's true that Murphy hasn't done anything good recently, but you can't say he sucks.  I still respect the guy for his brilliant stand-up special Raw, as well as Beverly Hills Cop, which is one of the funniest comedies of the 80's.  And Bowfinger wasn't too bad either.

Well you can argue that he sucks NOW compared to then. Yes 'Beverly Hills Cop' was a classic and the sequels weren't bad but if consider
The Adventures Of Pluto Nash
Haunted Mansion
Daddy Day Care
Showtime
I Spy
You can see where i'm coming from...


You forgot NORBIT! >.<

How could you omit that? x.x

Norbit: The title that gives you no information of any kind whatsoever. Could be a thriller with a serial killer, could be drama, could be comedy, could be romance, Norbit could easily by a CGI alien in a scifi movie or a geeky protganist turned superhero, NO CLUE AT ALL.

Then the trailer for Norbit. I can see it now.

Obnoxious executive: Alright, think of a "Yo Momma so fat" joke. Okay? Now extend that into the plot and purpose of an entire film. Now, add in a moral, something like "skinny girls are nice and fat women are domineering and evil". Add in a shrivelled prune man making a rather pathetic one liner about how somebody else is nasty looking. Now, are you still with me? I want you to tone down the intellect, and have Eddy Murphy dryhump Eddy Murphy."

Board: It's perfect!

Executive: Excellent! Now bring me two small boys, a pumkin, and the schnauzer. I wish to be depraved.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on May 02, 2008, 02:34:49 PM
 (https://forum.rifftrax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.worstpreviews.com%2Fimages%2Fposters%2Fmeetdave%2Fmeetdave2_large.jpg&hash=8fa8b4c9656ed802e646d719db479c63c9a587a9)
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: bratpop on May 02, 2008, 02:39:14 PM
Worst. Poster. EVER.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on May 02, 2008, 02:48:36 PM
Quote from: Fuzzy Necromancer on April 25, 2008, 02:26:21 PMYou forgot NORBIT! >.<

How could you omit that? x.x

I actually found Norbit to be a funny movie.

Quote from: bratpop on May 02, 2008, 02:39:14 PMWorst. Poster. EVER.

There are worse posters.

I honestly don't see what's so bad about it.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Junkyard on May 02, 2008, 02:49:59 PM
Quote from: bratpop on May 02, 2008, 02:39:14 PM
Worst. Poster. EVER.

Okay, now you're just complaining to complain. I already covered this- This is the worst poster ever:

(https://forum.rifftrax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdudehesthestallion.files.wordpress.com%2F2008%2F04%2Fithinkilovemywifeposter.jpg&hash=54d03d8952ad152b1890ec867a8242e1b038b01f)
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: bratpop on May 02, 2008, 02:53:44 PM
Quote from: Isaac on May 02, 2008, 02:48:36 PM
I honestly don't see what's so bad about it.
You don't see the bad photoshopping?
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: AmandaGal on May 02, 2008, 02:56:04 PM
I just hope Bill does the commentary track for the DVD.

Eddie Murphy has been in some good things and he's really funny when he's in the right thing.  Here's hoping.

It's hard to make a good poster for a comedy, I think.  Especially an absurd concept like this.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Rude on May 02, 2008, 03:17:42 PM
Quote from: bratpopYou don't see the bad photoshopping?

Yeah, that's actually pretty bad. It's like they just stuck pictures of little people on top of another poster with glue.

-Rude
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on May 05, 2008, 02:41:10 PM
It looks alright to me.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: ScottotD on May 06, 2008, 01:31:04 AM
Quote from: Isaac on May 02, 2008, 02:48:36 PM
I actually found Norbit to be a funny movie.

It's good to have a context for people's tastes
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on May 06, 2008, 11:05:32 AM
Quote from: ScottH on May 06, 2008, 01:31:04 AM
Quote from: Isaac on May 02, 2008, 02:48:36 PMI actually found Norbit to be a funny movie.

duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Shut up, Scott.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: ScottotD on May 07, 2008, 01:35:56 AM
What if I posted while wearing an hilarious rubber suit?
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on May 07, 2008, 10:13:06 AM
Quote from: ScottH on May 07, 2008, 01:35:56 AMderrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Really, if you don't have anything to say, don't say it.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: ScottotD on May 07, 2008, 05:50:34 PM
....anyway.

I honestly find it odd the Best Brains guys didn't get writing jobs after MST, obviously it was a niche product but good writing is good writing.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Rattrap007 on June 27, 2008, 06:57:53 PM
Quote from: Pak-Man on March 27, 2008, 08:14:03 AM
Think they'll do a Rifftrax for it? :^)

I just suggested this, but I did not know it was Bill's script (or that he had a hand in it).

You think the universe will explode if they mock something one of them wrote?
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Rattrap007 on July 01, 2008, 07:51:45 AM
Lifesize version of Eddie Murphy's ego hauled around as promotion for Meet Dave (http://www.myfoxdc.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=4050AE33360AC1940C4963ED61CD87D7?contentId=6880640&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1)
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Cosmic Muse on July 01, 2008, 08:52:54 AM
Quote from: Rattrap007 on June 27, 2008, 06:57:53 PM
Quote from: Pak-Man on March 27, 2008, 08:14:03 AM
Think they'll do a Rifftrax for it? :^)

I just suggested this, but I did not know it was Bill's script (or that he had a hand in it).

You think the universe will explode if they mock something one of them wrote?

How much you want to make a bet the finished film only vaguely resembles Bill Corbett's vision. They did it with MST3K the movie, but Mr. Corbett wasn't around to witness all the business suit and focus group hijinx.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on July 01, 2008, 09:35:44 AM
Quote from: Rattrap007 on July 01, 2008, 07:51:45 AMLifesize version of Eddie Murphy's ego hauled around as promotion for Meet Dave (http://www.myfoxdc.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=4050AE33360AC1940C4963ED61CD87D7?contentId=6880640&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1)

It's not like it was his idea....

Quote from: S.H.O.D.A.N. on July 01, 2008, 08:52:54 AM
Quote from: Rattrap007 on June 27, 2008, 06:57:53 PM
Quote from: Pak-Man on March 27, 2008, 08:14:03 AMThink they'll do a Rifftrax for it? :^)

I just suggested this, but I did not know it was Bill's script (or that he had a hand in it).

You think the universe will explode if they mock something one of them wrote?

How much you want to make a bet the finished film only vaguely resembles Bill Corbett's vision. They did it with MST3K the movie, but Mr. Corbett wasn't around to witness all the business suit and focus group hijinx.

That's the film industry for ya. That sort of thing frequently happens on major studio productions.

The trailer looks funny, and hopefully they didn't mess it up too much.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Rattrap007 on July 01, 2008, 10:41:59 AM
I panned it because it is yet another Eddie Murphy movie where he plays several roles and mugs for the camera half the time. Idea sounds good and I like the part in the trailer where the cat rubs up on his leg, the crew sees an old film reel of a lion and has the ship kick the cat in a preemptive defense thinking the cat will kill them.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on July 02, 2008, 08:12:35 AM
I'm the only one who sees a Meet Dave billboard and wishes they had a can of paint they could get up there with and change it to Starship?

Probably....but I do.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on July 02, 2008, 08:21:48 AM
I doubt this movie will do too bad, I mean, it's not like it's coming out the same day as some super hyped action movie or something...................

oh








Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on July 02, 2008, 08:42:01 AM
Quote from: Jacob T. Caboose on July 02, 2008, 08:21:48 AM
I doubt this movie will do too bad, I mean, it's not like it's coming out the same day as some super hyped action movie or something...................

oh

So, we all pay to get into see Dave and then sneak into Hellboy 2    :highfive:
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on July 02, 2008, 10:33:15 AM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on July 02, 2008, 08:42:01 AM
Quote from: Jacob T. Caboose on July 02, 2008, 08:21:48 AM
I doubt this movie will do too bad, I mean, it's not like it's coming out the same day as some super hyped action movie or something...................

oh

So, we all pay to get into see Dave and then sneak into Hellboy 2    :highfive:

that's the ticket
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on July 02, 2008, 11:01:01 AM
Quote from: Jacob T. Caboose on July 02, 2008, 10:33:15 AM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on July 02, 2008, 08:42:01 AM
Quote from: Jacob T. Caboose on July 02, 2008, 08:21:48 AM
I doubt this movie will do too bad, I mean, it's not like it's coming out the same day as some super hyped action movie or something...................

oh

So, we all pay to get into see Dave and then sneak into Hellboy 2    :highfive:

that's the ticket
Of course, if Ron Perlman finds out he could beat the crap out of all of us....
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: MontyServo on July 02, 2008, 11:26:07 AM
Or you could actually buy a ticket and watch Meet Dave.  Even if it is just to see Bill's name in the opening credits and try and figure out which jokes were his.

(I'm going to go see this just for that reason.)

(Hellboy 2 can wait for DVD.)

Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Rattrap007 on July 02, 2008, 12:09:56 PM
I think the cat kicking joke is probably his.. seems like silly MST3k style humor. Maybe Bill can confirm this is indeed his joke.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on July 02, 2008, 12:17:08 PM
he's supposed to be doing a 20 Questions about it sometime
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on July 02, 2008, 02:32:21 PM
Quote from: Rattrap007 on July 02, 2008, 12:09:56 PM
I think the cat kicking joke is probably his.. seems like silly MST3k style humor. Maybe Bill can confirm this is indeed his joke.
I hope not
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on July 02, 2008, 02:57:34 PM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on July 02, 2008, 02:32:21 PM
Quote from: Rattrap007 on July 02, 2008, 12:09:56 PM
I think the cat kicking joke is probably his.. seems like silly MST3k style humor. Maybe Bill can confirm this is indeed his joke.
I hope not

I guess what most people are hoping for is that his script went into a major overhaul and is now completely different from what it originally was, and that Mr. Corbett had absolutely nothing to do with this movie, in it's present form.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on July 02, 2008, 03:05:50 PM
Quote from: Jacob T. Caboose on July 02, 2008, 08:21:48 AMI doubt this movie will do too bad, I mean, it's not like it's coming out the same day as some super hyped action movie or something...................

oh

Am I the only one who absolutely does not give a shit about Hellboy?
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on July 02, 2008, 03:07:03 PM
Quote from: MontyServo on July 02, 2008, 11:26:07 AM
Or you could actually buy a ticket and watch Meet Dave.  Even if it is just to see Bill's name in the opening credits and try and figure out which jokes were his.

(I'm going to go see this just for that reason.)

(Hellboy 2 can wait for DVD.)



apparently not
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: fortytwice on July 02, 2008, 03:19:32 PM
I'd watch this

(https://forum.rifftrax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg352.imageshack.us%2Fimg352%2F5422%2Fmeetbilldo9.jpg&hash=d1df65f7221952e8d8a112d9d371889f73086099)
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Prize Walnut on July 02, 2008, 04:06:23 PM
I'm really hoping the rifftrax gang, including Bill, riffs this movie. I'm going to watch it once regardless, but if it had a riff I'd watch it over and over.

p walnut
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: AmandaGal on July 02, 2008, 09:28:09 PM
I think it would be good to riff it. Show the world they can take a swig of their own medicine.

Well, the world being us, because let's face it, we're the only ones who care.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Douglin on July 06, 2008, 09:17:05 AM
(https://forum.rifftrax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi27.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc186%2Fsimonquilty%2Fmeet-dave-promotion.jpg&hash=229d566208b96719c5a53c632cae3bf2e768b82d)

:speechless:
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Junkyard on July 06, 2008, 09:31:30 AM
I'm always getting stuck behind that guy in traffic.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on July 06, 2008, 11:45:02 AM
Quote from: Douglin on July 06, 2008, 09:17:05 AM(https://forum.rifftrax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi27.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc186%2Fsimonquilty%2Fmeet-dave-promotion.jpg&hash=229d566208b96719c5a53c632cae3bf2e768b82d)

"I was gonna go to work, but then I got high...."
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Rattrap007 on July 06, 2008, 05:01:31 PM
Quote from: Douglin on July 06, 2008, 09:17:05 AM
(https://forum.rifftrax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi27.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc186%2Fsimonquilty%2Fmeet-dave-promotion.jpg&hash=229d566208b96719c5a53c632cae3bf2e768b82d)

:speechless:

Creepiest commute ever
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on July 06, 2008, 05:04:54 PM
it terrified the van behind him
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Dim of the Yard on July 06, 2008, 05:05:53 PM
Quote from: Douglin on July 06, 2008, 09:17:05 AM
(https://forum.rifftrax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi27.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc186%2Fsimonquilty%2Fmeet-dave-promotion.jpg&hash=229d566208b96719c5a53c632cae3bf2e768b82d)

:speechless:

Good God, now I'm curious.  If the black SUV rear-ends the Eddie Murphy head, is it a car accident or vehicular manslaughter?
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Tripe on July 06, 2008, 08:08:05 PM
Quote from: Douglin on July 06, 2008, 09:17:05 AM
(https://forum.rifftrax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi27.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc186%2Fsimonquilty%2Fmeet-dave-promotion.jpg&hash=229d566208b96719c5a53c632cae3bf2e768b82d)

:speechless:

The biggest hazard would be if any of these lovely ladies are hitching a lift on the side of the road:

(https://forum.rifftrax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theage.com.au%2Fffximage%2F2006%2F08%2F25%2Fqueen_wideweb__470x328%2C0.jpg&hash=642438b4438951a8e630fca29f9afc29393b3722)
(https://forum.rifftrax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi32.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fd18%2Fniuherotoys%2FDVD%2520Peliculas%2FDVD_AWongFoo_DET1.jpg&hash=7bd2827f1f9dff74b0700809dd40ff1a7401a735)

The car just won't be able to help itself.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: RobtheBarbarian on July 06, 2008, 08:22:21 PM
Quote from: Dim of the Yard on July 06, 2008, 05:05:53 PM
Good God, now I'm curious.  If the black SUV rear-ends the Eddie Murphy head, is it a car accident or vehicular manslaughter?

And if it were a white SUV, would it be a hate crime?
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on July 06, 2008, 08:24:25 PM
Quote from: Dim of the Yard on July 06, 2008, 05:05:53 PM

Good God, now I'm curious.  If the black SUV rear-ends the Eddie Murphy head, is it a car accident or vehicular manslaughter?

I think it'd be a mercy killing.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: AmandaGal on July 07, 2008, 04:55:26 AM
Am the only one who laughed at the previews?

{silence}

I don't think it will be bad.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Junkyard on July 07, 2008, 05:25:26 AM
... while I, however, am 100% certain it will be.

Of course, that's mostly because I don't like the KIND of humor the concept promises, so it could still stand on it's own.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on July 07, 2008, 05:25:41 AM
I just heard the last podcast Bill did on the fourth and it sounded like creative control was given to Hollywood helper monkeys.  They always have to dumb things down for the widest audience, but I hope it isn't Norbit 2.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Tripe on July 07, 2008, 05:38:36 AM
See I like the concept, The Numskulls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Numskulls) (see spoiler for an example) was one of my favorite comic strips when I was a nipper.
Spoiler
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However the trailer didn't look all that good really.

Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on July 07, 2008, 08:26:51 AM
Quote from: Dim of the Yard on July 06, 2008, 05:05:53 PM
Good God, now I'm curious.  If the black SUV rear-ends the Eddie Murphy head, is it a car accident or vehicular manslaughter?

I think it would be part of the Highway Beautification Project.....
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: mrbasehart on July 10, 2008, 08:05:58 PM
There's a review of the movie over at IGN:

http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/887/887834p1.html (http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/887/887834p1.html)

I'll quote a little just in case people don't like to click:

QuoteMove over Pluto Nash because Meet Dave just took your place as the worst science-fiction comedy starring Eddie Murphy. It boggles the mind why Murphy thought such a genre hybrid would work better for him this time around.  Although the script was co-written by Mystery Science Theater 3000 vet Bill Corbett, Meet Dave is exactly the kind of god-awful genre flick that MST3K would have hammered.

Eep.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Asbestos Bill on July 10, 2008, 08:28:16 PM
Quote from: Local DJ"Coming out this week... 'Meet Dave,' a stupid looking sci-fi comedy, but I'll probably see it just because of the Murphster--I mean come on!"

......




.......
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Artie on July 10, 2008, 09:17:09 PM
From Rotten Tomatoes:
"The pundits say Meet Dave has a reasonable premise and a couple decent chuckles, but it's indifferently executed and weighted down by pretty juvenile humor"

I'd say it's pretty clear who is responsible for which parts here.

We can only hope that some day we'll get read the original script and imagine what should have been.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: GLaDOS on July 10, 2008, 10:06:28 PM
How can the movie be so bad if Bill Corbett wrote it? I mean I know it's already gotten lots of awful reviews, but I just don't understand this.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on July 10, 2008, 10:52:45 PM
Quote from: GLaDOS on July 10, 2008, 10:06:28 PM
How can the movie be so bad if Bill Corbett wrote it? I mean I know it's already gotten lots of awful reviews, but I just don't understand this.

Quotecreative control was given to Hollywood helper monkeys.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: GLaDOS on July 10, 2008, 11:01:53 PM
Well that makes sense but if I were Bill Corbett and I was writing a movie like that I would want to adopt a pseudonym.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Pak-Man on July 10, 2008, 11:04:13 PM
I don't know about that. I'm going to see it despite bad reviews and the fact that it's not my kind of movie just because I know Bill's behind it. SOME of his genius must have slipped through Hollywood's filters. :^)
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: stirrell on July 11, 2008, 07:43:42 AM
It seems like many of the reviews have been negative but Variety seemed to really like it:

http://movies.msn.com/movies/movie-critic-reviews/meet-dave/

The average critic reviews at Yahoo! was a C+ which certainly isn't a disaster.

It probably isn't something I would normally see either, but I probably will catch it because of the connection with Bill.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: JackTheRIFFER on July 11, 2008, 02:22:26 PM
I'm sorry my wonderful, wonderful Bill...  But...

http://www.cracked.com/video_16457_who-would-actually-pay-see-new-eddie-murphy-movie.html
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on July 11, 2008, 02:23:42 PM
Quote from: JackTheRIFFER on July 11, 2008, 02:22:26 PMI'm sorry my wonderful, wonderful Bill...  But...

http://www.cracked.com/video_16457_who-would-actually-pay-see-new-eddie-murphy-movie.html

Cracked is garbage.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: ShadowDog on July 11, 2008, 06:20:41 PM
Quote from: Prize Walnut on July 02, 2008, 04:06:23 PM
I'm really hoping the rifftrax gang, including Bill, riffs this movie. I'm going to watch it once regardless, but if it had a riff I'd watch it over and over.

OMFG this would be so awesome!
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: mrbasehart on July 11, 2008, 08:03:02 PM
Okay, so I just saw and god help me, I think I enjoyed it.  There are some very funny moments in the movie, mostly connected with the "starship's" attempts to be human and Eddie Murphy's very good at that.  Less successful (to downright awful) are the gay and racial jokes that frequently appear - I'm assuming this wasn't something written by Bill - and the slightly mawkish "gosh, aren't humans great?" sentiment running throughout.  As I said, Murphy's good as the ship, but not so good as the Captain of the ship, and provided love interest seems superfluous. 

EDIT: Oh, and while Elizabeth Banks is good, Ed Helms is just awful. 
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: MontyServo on July 12, 2008, 06:09:31 AM
A few of the reviews I've seen are pointing out Bill and MST3K.

The New York Times (which didn't actually slam the movie as much as other places) mentions that Bill used to write for MST3K.

And USA Today (which did slam the movie) also mentions Bill:

QuoteGiven that co-screenwriter Bill Corbett was a writer for the quirky Mystery Science Theater 3000, Meet Dave really should have been funnier.

Looks like the Box Office wasn't too great for it either, opening in seventh place with only $1.7 million on Friday.

I may go see it tomorrow.  Wall-E is my number one choice for this weekend, but if I feel up to it I may pair it with Meet Dave for a double feature.  If not, I'll watch it for sure on Blu Ray in a few months.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: gojikranz on July 12, 2008, 02:38:59 PM
our local paper(contra costa times) gave it a C- but said it made them remember why they used to like eddie murphy.  i think ill go see it.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Queen Shadowrama on July 12, 2008, 10:13:03 PM
Just got back from seeing it right now, so I'm posting my thoughts while they're still fresh in my head. Spoilers I guess, but really, this isn't Star Wars...I doubt it matters.

First, let me start off and say that I would not have gone to see this film if Bill hadn't had anything to do with it. Upon seeing the trailer, I thought the film was doomed to be nothing but garbage. The fact that Eddie Murphy was in it only sealed this notion in my mind. I, along with many other people lamented and thought, "remember the days when Eddie Murphy was funny?"

I managed to convince my mom to go to see it with me, and explained to her why I would want to see something like this. "Well mom, one of the guys from MST wrote it. I fully expect it to be a painful experience, but because I consider myself a real fan, I'll suffer through it for Bill. And who knows? Maybe it will be good...(cue nervous laugh)"

Guess what guys? It was actually good! The trailer that we have all seen does not do this film justice, really. My mom and I laughed through the entire thing. From the moment Dave lands on Earth and starts trying to walk, it's laugh out loud funny. Eddie Murphy is at his best when he can do physical comedy...and when he smiles...well, it's all over!

The absolute best parts of the film were when Dave the ship was trying to interact with the human world. The first half hour or so when he's trying to understand the strange customs of Earth people are delightfully funny and creepy at the same time.

There were some good scenes on the inside of the ship, but it wasn't quite as good. Ed Helms is always funny no matter what, and it was interesting to see how the emotional ways of the humans were rubbing off on the emotionally sterile crew. It did get a little sappy at times (the love story) and just offensively over the top in others (macho security guard becoming a lame gay stereotype after seeing a Broadway musical...please Bill tell me that was added in after you were gone), but ultimately it held together pretty well.

Was it the greatest comedy to ever grace the silver screen? No. Not even close. But I would call it cute. And I don't mean "cute" in that snooty, this-movie-is-crap-but-I-have-to-find-something-nice-to-say way either. It was genuinely a cute film. And hey, I laughed more than I groaned, and that's really all I can ask for.

I'd love to hear Bill's thoughts about it once he's seen it. I definitely want to know what parts were his and what was added. But when it comes right down to it, I gotta say, great job, Bill. I honestly think you may have tried to cushion the blow for us a bit too much. While I understand you wanting to protect your reputation, I can't help but think that between the lackluster trailer and the claims that the script was ripped apart by others after you left were kinda preparing us for it to be crap. So, we expected crap. Some still do. Don't sell yourself short like that! You're awesome, and even if it was a complete failure, we'd still love you! Anyway, no matter what the critics (or audiences) say about this film, know that you have at least one convert. You rock, as always.  :clap:
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Joe Don Faker on July 13, 2008, 07:16:43 PM
Has anyone here checked out the Onion AV Club discussion thread (http://www.avclub.com/content/node/82608#comment_page_1) for the movie?

Apparently Big Foot does exist, and is the biggest fan of this film.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Dim of the Yard on July 13, 2008, 09:25:01 PM
Quote from: Yeti
Quote from: after-dinner mintI wonder if this will be riffed upon by RiffTrax?
It's funny enough on its own. They should go after the competiting trash, like Hellboy and The Dark Knight.

HAHAHAHAHA OH WOW.

I have no opinion on his jab at Hellboy 2, since I have not yet seen it and can't judge for myself how it is.  (But I really want to see it.)  Dark Knight, however?  Half of his comments are about him getting mad at people in the thread for bashing a movie that they have not seen.  So why would he turn around and start bashing a movie that HE hasn't seen?

I'm kind of thinking this guy is a troll.  If he is, dammit, I fell for it and replied to his comments.  This should be fun.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Joe Don Faker on July 14, 2008, 12:56:50 AM
It seems what's happened now is, after the guy's initial wave of repetitious posts, some copycats have used the Yeti screenname to snowball the situation even further.

(The Onion discussion threads are vulnerable to this sort of thing because apparently it's possible to create copycat accounts simply by putting a space before the screenname.)
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on July 14, 2008, 09:31:55 AM
Spoiler
Quote"Meet Dave" saw one of the worst opening grosses ever for an Eddie Murphy pic.
:-\ :'(
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on July 14, 2008, 10:08:15 AM
Why was this released during the summer blockbuster season?  Movies like this are normally held for the fall/holiday season...

No way it could compete with Hancock, Hellboy, or Batman next weekend...  Especially with people cutting back on this kind of spending...
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Steve-O on July 15, 2008, 04:04:26 PM
Oh, dear. (http://www.bestweekever.tv/2008/07/14/50-movies-that-out-grossed-meet-dave-in-their-opening-weekends/)

Honesty, though, there is no shame in being outgrossed by Good Burger.  I mean, it did have Abe Vigoda.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on July 15, 2008, 04:18:05 PM
Quote from: Steve-O on July 15, 2008, 04:04:26 PMOh, dear. (http://www.bestweekever.tv/2008/07/14/50-movies-that-out-grossed-meet-dave-in-their-opening-weekends/)

Honesty, though, there is no shame in being outgrossed by Good Burger.  I mean, it did have Abe Vigoda.

The title is "50 Movies That Out-Grossed Meet Dave In Their Opening Weekends," but if you scroll down, you see "Titanic, in its 18th week of release," "My Big Fat Greek Wedding in its 30th week of release," and "That movie Hidalgo in its 3rd week of release." That being said, there are actually a few decent movies on that list.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Rattrap007 on July 15, 2008, 04:19:20 PM
Quote from: Steve-O on July 15, 2008, 04:04:26 PM
Oh, dear. (http://www.bestweekever.tv/2008/07/14/50-movies-that-out-grossed-meet-dave-in-their-opening-weekends/)

Honesty, though, there is no shame in being outgrossed by Good Burger.  I mean, it did have Abe Vigoda.
:deadhorse: Ow! :deadhorse: Ow!

Seriously that is not good. Reading through it I was thinking "OW!! Oooch! OW! Now that movie isn't all that bad... OOOoooooo... ooooh Ow! That beat Meet Dave? OOOOooh!"
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Bob on July 15, 2008, 04:20:27 PM
I think this poor movie had too many strikes against it going in, to really do well.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: mrbasehart on July 15, 2008, 04:23:13 PM
Bill might be peversely proud of how poorly Meet Dave has done so far.  I mean it's not like had gross points or anything...
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Rattrap007 on July 15, 2008, 04:23:46 PM
Quote from: PSLOwner on July 15, 2008, 04:20:27 PM
I think this poor movie had too many strikes against it going in, to really do well.

Think the only high water mark for us is Bill wrote it...
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Bob on July 15, 2008, 04:29:18 PM
Quote from: Rattrap007 on July 15, 2008, 04:23:46 PM
Quote from: PSLOwner on July 15, 2008, 04:20:27 PM
I think this poor movie had too many strikes against it going in, to really do well.

Think the only high water mark for us is Bill wrote it...

Can you imagine the horror is some no talent hacks wrote it?    It might have been the new Manos.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Steve-O on July 15, 2008, 04:46:39 PM
Quote from: Rattrap007 on July 15, 2008, 04:23:46 PM
Think the only high water mark for us is Bill wrote it...

Well, Bill wrote a script.  I have little doubt, though, that the final product is a long way removed from the vision Bill and his partner originally had for it.  Sucks to be a writer in Hollywood these days.

Kinda makes ya wonder whether Akiva Goldsman isn't really a literary genius who's been sorely misrepresented by producers all these years, doesn't it?  No?  Me neither.

Must be one hell of a rollercoaster ride.  It would be mind-blowingly cool to have something that you wrote made into a real, honest-to-goodness, Hollywood movie.  With marketing push, and big name talent, and everything!  But then it turns out that the movie they made is Meet Dave.  To paraphrase one of my co-writers on the Batman and Robin script, "Uma Thurman has agreed to sleep with you, but she insists on wearing the gorilla suit."

Meanwhile, I'm fighting with myself over whether to buy a ticket.  On the one hand, I want to support Bill and increase the chances that he might get future writing gigs.  On the other, I want to protest the rank defilement of a (I assume) perfectly good script.  Do you suppose if I passed a hand-written note to the ticket taker expressing my outrage, he'd pass it along to the studio?
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on July 15, 2008, 04:56:00 PM
Quote from: Steve-O on July 15, 2008, 04:46:39 PM
Quote from: Rattrap007 on July 15, 2008, 04:23:46 PMThink the only high water mark for us is Bill wrote it...

Well, Bill wrote a script.  I have little doubt, though, that the final product is a long way removed from the vision Bill and his partner originally had for it.  Sucks to be a writer in Hollywood these days.

Kinda makes ya wonder whether Akiva Goldsman isn't really a literary genius who's been sorely misrepresented by producers all these years, doesn't it?  No?  Me neither.

Must be one hell of a rollercoaster ride.  It would be mind-blowingly cool to have something that you wrote made into a real, honest-to-goodness, Hollywood movie.  With marketing push, and big name talent, and everything!  But then it turns out that the movie they made is Meet Dave.  To paraphrase one of my co-writers on the Batman and Robin script, "Uma Thurman has agreed to sleep with you, but she insists on wearing the gorilla suit."

Meanwhile, I'm fighting with myself over whether to buy a ticket.  On the one hand, I want to support Bill and increase the chances that he might get future writing gigs.  On the other, I want to protest the rank defilement of a (I assume) perfectly good script.  Do you suppose if I passed a hand-written note to the ticket taker expressing my outrage, he'd pass it along to the studio?

What makes you so sure that they butchered the script? I think most critics were biased against the star, director and concept going in, and 20th Century Fox mismanaged the film by releasing it against bigger competition. Or else Bill might have written a poor script to begin with? There's no reason to assume that Bill had absolutely no part in whatever fault the film might have. Don't assign blame if you don't really know what the case really is.

Again, I haven't seen it yet, so I have no idea if the film is actually bad.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: torgosPizza on July 15, 2008, 05:21:46 PM
Quote from: Isaac on July 15, 2008, 04:56:00 PM
What makes you so sure that they butchered the script?

When Bill told us they (probably) did.

http://blog.rifftrax.com/2008/07/10/meat-dave/

[T]he truth is that I had not a bit of control over the final product, and Hollywood does tend to suckify things. Often quite badly. In fact, there was a week of writing done AFTER the last draft Rob and I submitted, and that's a scary prospect.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on July 15, 2008, 05:28:42 PM
Quote from: torgosPizza on July 15, 2008, 05:21:46 PM
Quote from: Isaac on July 15, 2008, 04:56:00 PMWhat makes you so sure that they butchered the script?

When Bill told us they (probably) did.

http://blog.rifftrax.com/2008/07/10/meat-dave/

[T]he truth is that I had not a bit of control over the final product, and Hollywood does tend to suckify things. Often quite badly. In fact, there was a week of writing done AFTER the last draft Rob and I submitted, and that's a scary prospect.

Well, there's a number of factors, one being that if a film has as much negativity geared toward it before its release, you have to cover you ass somehow. When he wrote that blog, he hadn't seen the film, so he had to explain that there was material added after the original script was turned in to let people know that "if it does turn out to be Battlefield Earth 2, it wasn't my fault!" We cannot be absolutely certain that the script was butchered.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Steve-O on July 15, 2008, 05:34:01 PM
Quote from: Isaac on July 15, 2008, 04:56:00 PM
What makes you so sure that they butchered the script? I think most critics were biased against the star, director and concept going in, and 20th Century Fox mismanaged the film by releasing it against bigger competition. Or else Bill might have written a poor script to begin with?

Hence the use of the phrase, "I assume."  Maybe I should make the fact that I don't actually have insider knowledge more clear in the future.

Quote from: Isaac on July 15, 2008, 04:56:00 PM
There's no reason to assume that Bill had absolutely no part in whatever fault the film might have. Don't assign blame if you don't really know what the case really is.

I don't think I'm making a big leap here.  I assume Bill wrote a decent script because I know him to be a good writer from his past work.  I assume it's a bad film without having seen it because the sheer number of bad reviews -- and the intensity of the vitriol contained within -- have in the past proven to be reliable indicators of badness.  I assume the film has been pre-drained of all the humor that I assume was in the original script because the trailers make me sad instead of joyful, and because the examples of the film's humor cited in the reviews -- admittedly, taken totally out of context -- have only added to my suffering.

I also assume Bill wasn't outright lying when he mentioned that helper monkeys did a pass or two on his script after he submitted the final draft.

But hey, I'm willing to admit the possibility that all of the above is false, that what is on the screen is a direct translation of the contents of Bill's mind's eye onto celluloid, and that Meet Dave is the new high water mark for science fiction comedy.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on July 15, 2008, 05:38:39 PM
I have seen Meet the Starship, it had it's moments, I liked it, not that it was good mind you.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on July 15, 2008, 05:39:26 PM
Quote from: Steve-O on July 15, 2008, 05:34:01 PM
Quote from: Isaac on July 15, 2008, 04:56:00 PMWhat makes you so sure that they butchered the script? I think most critics were biased against the star, director and concept going in, and 20th Century Fox mismanaged the film by releasing it against bigger competition. Or else Bill might have written a poor script to begin with?

Hence the use of the phrase, "I assume."  Maybe I should make the fact that I don't actually have insider knowledge more clear in the future.

Quote from: Isaac on July 15, 2008, 04:56:00 PMThere's no reason to assume that Bill had absolutely no part in whatever fault the film might have. Don't assign blame if you don't really know what the case really is.

I don't think I'm making a big leap here.  I assume Bill wrote a decent script because I know him to be a good writer from his past work.  I assume it's a bad film without having seen it because the sheer number of bad reviews -- and the intensity of the vitriol contained within -- have in the past proven to be reliable indicators of badness.  I assume the film has been pre-drained of all the humor that I assume was in the original script because the trailers make me sad instead of joyful, and because the examples of the film's humor cited in the reviews -- admittedly, taken totally out of context -- have only added to my suffering.

I also assume Bill wasn't outright lying when he mentioned that helper monkeys did a pass or two on his script after he submitted the final draft.

But hey, I'm willing to admit the possibility that all of the above is false, that what is on the screen is a direct translation of the contents of Bill's mind's eye onto celluloid, and that Meet Dave is the new high water mark for science fiction comedy.

Reviews are rarely an indication of quality. (See also: Every M. Night Shyamalan movie ever made.)
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Steve-O on July 15, 2008, 05:53:53 PM
Quote from: Isaac on July 15, 2008, 05:39:26 PM
Reviews are rarely an indication of quality. (See also: Every M. Night Shyamalan movie ever made.)

True, individual reviews are not accurate indicators of quality.  But great, heaping gobs of reviews taken together tend to be pretty much on the money, at least for me.  And that goes for the consensus opinion on Shyamalan's films as well.

But that doesn't mean you can't like them.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on July 15, 2008, 06:08:16 PM
Quote from: Steve-O on July 15, 2008, 05:53:53 PM
Quote from: Isaac on July 15, 2008, 05:39:26 PMReviews are rarely an indication of quality. (See also: Every M. Night Shyamalan movie ever made.)

True, individual reviews are not accurate indicators of quality.  But great, heaping gobs of reviews taken together tend to be pretty much on the money, at least for me.  And that goes for the consensus opinion on Shyamalan's films as well.

But that doesn't mean you can't like them.

I'm just saying not to assume that because there were rewrites, that there was a draft written with Bill's involvement that was an absolute masterpiece of comedic science fiction. He wrote a film for younger audiences, and the majority of critics and viewers did not take that into account in their reaction to the film. I doubt that Starship Dave would have ever produced one of the greatest comedies of all time, even if there were no rewrites.
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Steve-O on July 15, 2008, 11:03:31 PM
Quote from: Isaac on July 15, 2008, 06:08:16 PM
I'm just saying not to assume that because there were rewrites, that there was a draft written with Bill's involvement that was an absolute masterpiece of comedic science fiction.

Fair enough, although I don't actually recall making that assumption.

All I was saying was that it seems likely that the final movie is probably substantially different from what Bill had in mind when he was writing the script, and not for the better.  And I imagine that's probably tough to reconcile with the thrill of having your hard work end up on the silver screen.

Quote from: Isaac on July 15, 2008, 06:08:16 PM
He wrote a film for younger audiences, and the majority of critics and viewers did not take that into account in their reaction to the film.

That could be.  But if the critics were unable to discern by watching the film that it was aimed at younger audiences, then the filmmakers still failed on at least that level, and they still did the script a disservice by misrepresenting it.

I also happen to agree with you that the critics are probably savaging the film more than it deserves, but I do think it's safe to say, based simply on the volume of bad press, that we're not dealing with Citizen Kane here.

Quote from: Isaac on July 15, 2008, 06:08:16 PM
I doubt that Starship Dave would have ever produced one of the greatest comedies of all time, even if there were no rewrites.

Now who's making assumptions?  :)
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on July 16, 2008, 07:08:41 AM
Watching that interview with Bill (linked on the blog) it was pretty obvious the final movie was far different from what he wrote.

He said something along the lines of recognizing "parts" of the movie as what he wrote...

Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on July 16, 2008, 05:23:35 PM
Regardless of how much of Bill's script actually wound up in the movie, I found it to be very funny. 8)
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: MontyServo on July 17, 2008, 03:25:20 PM
Quote from: Isaac on July 16, 2008, 05:23:35 PM
Regardless of how much of Bill's script actually wound up in the movie, I found it to be very funny. 8)

Same here.  Just caught a matinee this afternoon and although it had several bits that fell completely flat, I mostly found the movie quite funny. 

The theater had more people than I was expecting for a Thursday afternoon showing of a "box office flop".  Mostly families and teens.  They seemed to enjoy the movie also, as there were many bits that brought loud laughter from the crowd.

I'd be curious to hear some of sort of commentary track by Bill on this movie (unlikely for the DVD, but maybe a special Rifftrax Presents?).

Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on July 17, 2008, 03:31:02 PM
I liked the "Welcome to Old Navy" part, okay
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Rude on July 28, 2008, 02:49:54 PM
...

Heh.

Forget 'Meet Dave'--'Atrapado en un Pirado' Looks Great! (http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2008/07/forget_meet_daveatrapado_en_un.php)

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Quote from: www.iwatchstuff.comI gave Eddie Murphy a lot of shit about how awful Meet Dave looked/surely was, but I have to say, it looks like he's redeemed himself with a starring role in this artistic foreign film, Atrapado en un Pirado. If I'm understanding the concept, Murphy's body is serving as a hollow vessel for smaller versions of himself--a metaphor for the ways in which man's physical form is nothing more than a shell driven by the conflicting emotions of the inner psyche, and how the fulfillment of our base desires are ultimately left in the delicate but powerful hands of womankind. Why can't America make movies like this?

-Rude
Title: Re: Starship Dave
Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on July 29, 2008, 08:47:15 PM
I'm just glad that for once Eddy Murphy is on the screen and NOT wearing a fat suit!