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Peter Jackson to direct "The Hobbit"

Started by esoobaC .T bocaJ, January 28, 2008, 08:41:48 AM

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Doctor Who?

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Now i know you are only doing this to prop up your insane post count.

So tell me are the Lord of the Rings movie bad becouse you say so and we all have to agree becouse you are always right and there is no chance that you would ever be wrong about something.


Petey Wheatstraw

Quote from: Doctor Who? on February 12, 2008, 07:40:07 PMNow i know you are only doing this to prop up your insane post count.

No, it's just that I cannot believe your insane lack of logic, so I found a brief moment of intentional humor to be appropriate, in order to lighten the mood.

Quote from: Doctor Who? on February 12, 2008, 07:40:07 PMSo tell me are the Lord of the Rings movie bad becouse you say so and we all have to agree becouse you are always right and there is no chance that you would ever be wrong about something.

Boy I hope you never become president,you are what Hitler must have been like as a kid.

Now, really, you're just pulling stuff straight out of your ass, aren't you? I never said anything remotely like that. And comparing me to Hitler because you disagree with my opinions is just plain childish.
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mrbasehart

Why do you dislike Peter Jackson? And it seems so personal too.  I'm not trying to bait you into an argument, I just want to understand where it's coming from.

Petey Wheatstraw

It's just that he seems more interested in making money than the art of filmmaking. That's all. It's not nearly extreme as some people make my views out to be. Some people act as if I'm treating Jackson like he brutally murdered my cat. I'm not.
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Doctor Who?

I would just like to point out the The Return of the King tied with Ben Hurr for most Oscer  awards won(11) and that over all the three films won 17(and were nominated for another 13).

That isn't even counting all the other awards they won.

Yeah Peter Jackson has no idea what he is doing.

I am sure Issac knows alot more about film making then The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.


mrbasehart

Quote from: Isaac on February 12, 2008, 07:48:38 PM
It's just that he seems more interested in making money than the art of filmmaking.

See, now that's a point I wouldly highly dispute with you.  It took Jackson 4 years to make Bad Taste.  You really don't do that unless you've got a love for films and film-making.  There are recent examples too, like The Frighteners DVD, which has a 3 and half hour documentary, in which Jackson specifically went through all the different stages of making a movie - even including some interesting on-set footage. 

sarcasm_made_Easy

QuoteOh, come on, if you honestly believe that Jackson isn't full of shit when he waited so damn long to file a lawsuit, then I just don't know what to do with you. If I hadn't gotten paid for working on a film, I would not have done the damn commentaries for the DVD editions, the interviews, the various promotional gigs, etc. Jackson's claims are seriously flawed. You recognize this fact, yet you still claim that I'm full of shit because this does not correspond with your reality, because you love him and his films so much. Separate the movies from the man. He's a liar. Back before the movies were released, he initially claimed not to have seen the previous adaptation, then said that he saw it, but it didn't motivate him to go out and read the books, and then went around and changed his story once more, saying that he loved the previous adaptation and that it inspired him to go out and read the books. Another example of Jackson caught red-handed lying. He's full of crap.

one you post no proof to back up your bizaarly intimate knowledge of when he filed his suit how much he got paid or rather how much of the total he got paid (you know the thing he is actually sueing over) so it can be ignored

second you post no proof to bolster your claim that he didnt read the books

and third and most damning of all i never said i even LIKED those movies or jackson so you can chuck that assumption you made on my behalf out the window

so basically like ive stated before you need some classes in argument you are clearly left lacking.  

QuoteBoy I hope you never become president,you are what Hitler must have been like as a kid.

whiny and emo?

Doctor Who?

#112
Quote from: Isaac on February 12, 2008, 07:48:38 PM
It's just that he seems more interested in making money than the art of filmmaking. That's all. It's not nearly extreme as some people make my views out to be. Some people act as if I'm treating Jackson like he brutally murdered my cat. I'm not.

have you ever heard him talk about Film making?

He loves it!!

You really should watch some of the extras on the DvD before opening your mouth.

Also you are being awful to him you keep calling him a lier and refusing to back it up with anything real.

you demand that we hate someone just becouse you hate them and you refuse to back up any of the millions of insane claims you have made about people you have never even spoken to.

We are all just supposed to do what ever you say and never disagree with you.

We all have like what you like and hate what you hate.


RobtheBarbarian

Quote from: Doctor Who? on February 12, 2008, 07:57:36 PM
You are like Hitler,you demand that we hate someone just becouse you hate them and you refuse to back up any of the millions of insane claims you have made about people you have never even spoken to.

We are all just supposed to do what ever you say and never disagree with you.

We all have like what you like and hate what you hate.

Sound like Hitler to me.

Good God, dude...

Petey Wheatstraw

Quote from: Doctor Who? on February 12, 2008, 07:51:37 PMI am sure Issac knows alot more about film making then The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.

The Academy Awards are really overrated. I mean, look at all the important directors who never won an Oscar:

    * Robert Altman (5)
    * Michelangelo Antonioni (1)
    * Ingmar Bergman (3)
    * John Cassavetes (1)
    * Charles Chaplin (1)
    * Cecil B. De Mille (1)
    * Federico Fellini (4)
    * Howard Hawks (1)
    * Alfred Hitchcock (5)
    * Stanley Kubrick (4)
    * Akira Kurosawa (1)
    * Fritz Lang (0)
    * David Lynch (3)
    * Alan J. Pakula (1)
    * Sam Peckinpah (0)
    * Jean Renoir (1)
    * Francois Truffaut (1)
    * Orson Welles (1)

Another thing, I seem to recall that Waking Life was initially supposed to be nominated for a "Best Animated Film" Oscar, but they nominated the derivative, poorly-written, badly-designed film Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius instead, because some bright guy got the idea that if an R-rated animated film would win an Oscar, all Hell would break loose, that there would be too much controversy. I don't trust an awards ceremony that eliminates films based on how controversial they perceive the reactions to that film winning would be.
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Petey Wheatstraw

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Quote from: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 12, 2008, 07:54:04 PMand third and most damning of all i never said i even LIKED those movies or jackson so you can chuck that assumption you made on my behalf out the window

Well, did I personally direct any remark at you, personally?

Quote from: Doctor Who? on February 12, 2008, 07:57:36 PMYou really should watch some of the extras on the DvD before opening your mouth.

I have, and I personally find Jackson to be really phony.

Quote from: Doctor Who? on February 12, 2008, 08:02:47 PMhe is demanding that we all hate someone just becouse he does.

No, I'm not. And repeatedly comparing other posters to Hitler will likely get your account suspended, at least.

























(PECKINPAH was never nominated for an Oscar! Come on, is The Lord of the Rings really better than The Wild Bunch? I just don't believe that.)
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RobtheBarbarian

The list of people who vocally hate things is longer than the list of people who don't. Going straight to Hitler is overkill.

GregMcduck


RobtheBarbarian


sarcasm_made_Easy

Quoteand third and most damning of all i never said i even LIKED those movies or jackson so you can chuck that assumption you made on my behalf out the window

Well, did I personally direct any remark at you, personally?

whats personally anything got to do with your argument?  And yes as a matter of fact you did right here

QuoteYou recognize this fact, yet you still claim that I'm full of shit because this does not correspond with your reality, because you love him and his films so much. Separate the movies from the man

since you used a PERSONAL pronoun i can only assume you were directing it at me.  However the comment is asisinine since it makes assumptions.  assumptions that arent backed by reality (meaning here my love for either the movies or jackson). so like i said your argument falls flat.  please supply another one preferably a decent one for my original post restated here:

Quoteissaac its time you came to terms with what is reality. 

you hate jackson (its an irrational hate deal with that too) because you loved jrr tolkeins books and other middle earth lore, and felt jacksons films didnt live up to what you wanted.  As such have blamed for all sorts of irrational things. 

Wether or not jackson is being greedy cant be argued we simply dont KNOW enough, we can at best speculate. 

Further with more people making similar claims to what jackson has said seemed to back up his side.   

all these things are apparent to most people, as such most people take them as fact, which is essentially all we can do.  either deal with this reality or dont, but quit acting as if the REST of the planet is where the problem is.