RRRRRAAAAARRRGGGGHHHHHH!!!

[RVR II]

Well, at least that is the damage.  Yeah, not fun, but you read about much worse deer hits all the time.

Yeah I hit this one doing only 35mph.
Glad I wasn't on a highway doing 60-75mph that could have been a really bad situation

[MartyS (Gromit)]

Seconded.

thirded

poor deer you would think after all this time deer would have evolve some and learn that car=bad

It's not something they could learn, it's physiological.

Ever turn on a light at night and have it hurt your eyes?  Imagine if your eyes were sensitive enough to see well enough to run through the woods in practically no light.  It's pretty much brain freeze due to the bright headlights. 

Other thing that works against them is their reliance on camouflage, when they hear something coming they freeze in place, only run away when it gets too close for comfort, by that time with a car the headlights have done them in.

[Mrs. Dick Courier]

warning, lady stuff ahead

damn endemetriosis kept me up practically all night.  Nothing would help, heating pad, ibuprofren.  Was bearable for a couple hours now its coming back. Its getting worse.

There is a surgery, my doc even mentioned a hysterectomy.  Now, I dont plan on having kids, was told once I couldn't and I have tried before.  And I'm 36.  Just dont like the idea.  It seems so final.  Kinda breaks my heart.

Since the doc mentioned it I've been having that damn urge.  My heart swells when I see a kid.  This is fairly new to me, kids would always annoy me until a couple of months ago.

Maybe I should get a kitten.

[anais.butterfly]

Kittens are always helpful.


The thought of having a child feels me with such fear and dread. And right now, I am so messed up in the head that I couldn't handle a relationship let alone parenthood. And yet...I would say no to a hysterectomy too. I guess I keep having faith that this won't last forever even though I will go through periods (like today when I was crying so much I couldn't go to work...and once the FMLA paperwork gets into the system I will be less worried about it) when it feels like how I feel now will last forever.

So, I guess what I am saying is that last night might have been an annoyance, but tonight will hopefully be better, so final decisions probably aren't the best.

I have no idea what endometriosis is though. Off to the wiki....*shwoosh*

(update)

So, I read the Wiki, and I still have no fucking idea what it is.

[Mrs. Dick Courier]

its scarring in your lady parts, although the scarring can happen anywhere really saw one of those Mystery Diagnosis shows and a woman had it in her leg.

It causes many problems, the horrible pain being the worst.  And the sick to my stomach feeling.  Even when Im hungry I have a hard time eating anything.  Took me a long time to be diagnosed, my previous doc shrugged it off, my current doc understands it, she told me once she had it too.

It can also make it harder to concieve.  Heard somewhere that most women who have it don't even know because docs don't have a full understanding of it.  I've had it 15 years, was diagnosed 4 years ago.  It just gets worse

[Thrifty]

Deer are half the reason I keep comprehensive coverage on my insurance policy.  The other half is because of miscreants like the one who cut that hole in the top of my car (it's a soft top convertible) three years ago.  I was super lucky to have comprehensive when that happened because it knocked a roughly $2500 repair bill down to $250.

[RVR II]

Deer are half the reason I keep comprehensive coverage on my insurance policy.  The other half is because of miscreants like the one who cut that hole in the top of my car (it's a soft top convertible) three years ago.  I was super lucky to have comprehensive when that happened because it knocked a roughly $2500 repair bill down to $250.

Yeah and now I'm considering adding comprehensive coverage back onto my policy..
Still, I'm getting this fixed for less than $500 ($214 for the bumper from the junk yard, and around $165 for installation = $379) which would have been my deductible

[Bob]

I can see this Sanford and Sons bumper now....... maybe you should go to grocery store and use loaves of bread they are throwing out and make your own bumper.

Oh wait, that will attract more deer.  Never mind.

[RVR II]

I can see this Sanford and Sons bumper now....... maybe you should go to grocery store and use loaves of bread they are throwing out and make your own bumper.

Oh wait, that will attract more deer.  Never mind.

The bumper was in decent condition overall ..
I need a piece of steel to go across the bumper level of my brush guard to act like a battering ram

[LucasM]

warning, lady stuff ahead

damn endemetriosis kept me up practically all night.  Nothing would help, heating pad, ibuprofren.  Was bearable for a couple hours now its coming back. Its getting worse.

There is a surgery, my doc even mentioned a hysterectomy.  Now, I dont plan on having kids, was told once I couldn't and I have tried before.  And I'm 36.  Just dont like the idea.  It seems so final.  Kinda breaks my heart.

Since the doc mentioned it I've been having that damn urge.  My heart swells when I see a kid.  This is fairly new to me, kids would always annoy me until a couple of months ago.

Maybe I should get a kitten.

I'm very sorry you're having the difficulties with endometriosis.  One of my oldest friends had it earlier in her life and it was very uncomfortable.  Since at one point I'd been thinking of becoming an obstetrician, I'd read enough to be able to talk with her about it.  From what I read, when we were in our teens I often knew more than female friends what was going on with their bodies.  I was also more comfortable talking about it than some of them were.

Kittens are always helpful.


The thought of having a child feels me with such fear and dread. And right now, I am so messed up in the head that I couldn't handle a relationship let alone parenthood. And yet...I would say no to a hysterectomy too. I guess I keep having faith that this won't last forever even though I will go through periods (like today when I was crying so much I couldn't go to work...and once the FMLA paperwork gets into the system I will be less worried about it) when it feels like how I feel now will last forever.

So, I guess what I am saying is that last night might have been an annoyance, but tonight will hopefully be better, so final decisions probably aren't the best.

I have no idea what endometriosis is though. Off to the wiki....*shwoosh*

(update)

So, I read the Wiki, and I still have no fucking idea what it is.

What I learned about it between when she and I discussed it the first and second times (I was maybe 16 or 17, so it is possible this is not complete information), was that endometrial tissue (the tissue that forms the basis for the build up of tissue and blood in the uterus each month that is sloughed off during menses) ends up outside the uterus.  From what I understand of it, it does that by making its way out one or both of the fallopian tubes (since there's a gap between the fimbria at the end of them and the ovaries, there is space for it to move out into the abdominal cavity).  [If any of it deposited in the fallopian tubes while moving out, it would block them when it built up, thus making it difficult or impossible for eggs to reach the uterus while they were still viable.  That can be what makes conception difficult.]

Unfortunately, what happens is that, despite it being outside the uterus, that endometrial tissue acts just like it did while in the uterus, so every 28 days it builds up, and then sloughs off in sync with menstrual flow.  Since, in the abdomen, there's no place for the now-dead tissue to go (as there is from the tissue in the uterus that moves out through the vagina) that blood and tissue builds up in the abdomen (or wherever it migrated to) and has to be dealt with by the body. 

its scarring in your lady parts, although the scarring can happen anywhere really saw one of those Mystery Diagnosis shows and a woman had it in her leg.

It causes many problems, the horrible pain being the worst.  And the sick to my stomach feeling.  Even when Im hungry I have a hard time eating anything.  Took me a long time to be diagnosed, my previous doc shrugged it off, my current doc understands it, she told me once she had it too.

It can also make it harder to concieve.  Heard somewhere that most women who have it don't even know because docs don't have a full understanding of it.  I've had it 15 years, was diagnosed 4 years ago.  It just gets worse

The friend who had it before, despite the doctors saying that it was highly unlikely she could have children, still had two wonderful girls.  She didn't have any problems getting pregnant, but others do have difficulties.  So it can be possible to conceive, despite a poor prognosis.

Again, I'm sorry you have this difficulty.  From my friend I know how debilitating it can be.


One thing that I learned back then, was something that may help.  Don't wait to take ibuprofen until you are already uncomfortable.  Start taking it regularly about 24-48 hours before your period is due (maybe 400mg every 4-6 hours), and continue for the first day or two after it's started.  One would do that because ibuprofen partly works by reducing prostaglandins (about 4 times as good at that as aspirin).  Prostaglandins are a mediator of pain (the more dull, achey, sick-to-your-stomach type of pain, rather than the sharp 'ow-that-hurts' type).  The production starts to increase a day or so before menstrual flow occurs.  So if ibuprofen is taken continuously starting from a day or two before the period starts, the prostaglandin production that would have occured, peaking roughly with the start of menstrual flow, doesn't have the ability to start, or at least there is less produced.  Less production translates to less pain.  [That helps with general menstrual cramping, as well, particularly if cramping is severe.]

Of course, discuss that with your doctor before starting, to make sure that there is no counterindications for it.

[Mrs. Dick Courier]

Lucas, thank you.

You just gave me better advice than my doc, she didn't mention taking the Ibuprofren on a regular basis and starting before the pain even starts, but makes sense.

I can usually time the arrival of my gift by the pain.  It normally starts 5 to 7 days before.  Try to take ibuprofren on a regular basis during the gift.  Woke me up last night and kept me up, gonna have to start taking the ibu ahead of time maybe avoid this.

[Thrifty]

Deer are half the reason I keep comprehensive coverage on my insurance policy.  The other half is because of miscreants like the one who cut that hole in the top of my car (it's a soft top convertible) three years ago.  I was super lucky to have comprehensive when that happened because it knocked a roughly $2500 repair bill down to $250.

Yeah and now I'm considering adding comprehensive coverage back onto my policy..
Still, I'm getting this fixed for less than $500 ($214 for the bumper from the junk yard, and around $165 for installation = $379) which would have been my deductible

Well you look like you have a pretty sturdy car.  A head on collision with a deer would probably destroy my car.

[LucasM]

Lucas, thank you.

You just gave me better advice than my doc, she didn't mention taking the Ibuprofren on a regular basis and starting before the pain even starts, but makes sense.

I can usually time the arrival of my gift by the pain.  It normally starts 5 to 7 days before.  Try to take ibuprofren on a regular basis during the gift.  Woke me up last night and kept me up, gonna have to start taking the ibu ahead of time maybe avoid this.

You're very welcome.  I'm glad that it at least has the potential to help.

If you are very regular, you might put the dates on a calendar to track when each aspect starts (endometrial pain, flow, etc.) for a month or two, and then a day or two before when the pain is expected, start the ibu then.  I say a calendar because it might be more difficult to remember to do that in advance of when it starts.  If you have mittelschmerz (midpain [pain from the growth and rupture of the ovarian follicle, and/or contractions of the fallopian tubes to move the egg forward]) it may be easier to count forward (or potentially backward) from there, rather than trying to count backward from the start of menstrual flow, as the midpain would likely be closer to the onset of the endometrial pain.

From what you wrote, it sounds like the endometrial pain starts with the height of the build up of the tissue moreso than when it sloughs off.  That could be because of the potential for pressure on whatever areas the tissue attached to, and stretching/pulling on it.  I'm not sure if the build up of tissue results in adhesions for you (tissue 'bridges' between areas that aren't supposed to be attached to one another).  From your doctor describing it as scar tissue, it is quite possible that is the case, especially if normal movement induces pain in that area.  For that, it is possible that gentle stretching of the area or gentle (but deep enough to affect the area) massage may help.

There is something I have never heard a doctor describe or advise, but if you [or any female who is still reading this] get severe menstrual cramps particularly with large clots, a treatment that I came up with and found worked (with my ex) was based on what I know of physiology.  The uterus contracts to expel its contents during menstruation, and it contracts hard if something is blocking the exit (like pushing hard with constipation pain [or having a baby, but not everyone has that experience for reference]).  Then I thought, 'during orgasm the uterus contracts, so why wouldn't that help expel its contents more quickly and pleasantly?'  And sure enough, it did.  So: orgasm is a treatment for cramping especially from menstrual blood and tissue clots (and even without, as it likely would help 'wear out' the muscles and possibly short out the hormones governing the contractions [oxytocin, I think]).  I know much of the time one of the last things one might think of or feel in the mood for with the physical and often emotional discomfort during the first couple days of menstrual flow is "I want to orgasm right now", but there is anecdotal evidence (from my 'testing' the theory on my ex), that orgasm can considerably help the cramping from intense uterine contractions.  I don't believe that would help with the endometrial pain, but it might (even if just from the endorphins released).

[Mrs. Dick Courier]

Orgasm to help cramps...interesting...

A second lady RRRRAAARRRGGGHHH in the same day.

Why can't I find a decent shirt anymore?  They all either have the sleeves cut off or holes in shoulder, for some unknown reason.  Or they're see through and you have to layer. 

I sometimes think clothes makers do it to make us ladies spend more money.

[Thrifty]

I have to take this stupid Ethics for Computer Professionals course this semester.  I hate the liberal arts.  I don't want to write out bullshit essays on why computer professionals have to have a code of ethics or a moral code or some shit.  I want to write programs.  That's why I chose to study software development.