Star Trek XI

[daltysmilth]

Shatner's cameo... or what it would've been

JJ Abrams previously revealed that he couldn't include William Shatner in the new "Star Trek" film, because he couldn't find a way to bring back a dead Kirk. Instead, he offered Shatner a cameo, but Shatner turned it down, stating that he wanted a larger role. But what kind of cameo would it have been?

io9 chatted with writers Robert Orci and Alex Kurtzman and asked him just that. "We had a scene with Shatner," said Orci. "We wrote it, it was in the script."

SPOILERS AHEAD:

Kurtzman revealed: "The very last scene when Spock and Spock meet each other, finally. And elder Spock is convincing young Spock that he couldn't interfere, because it would have diverted [Kirk and Spock] away from their friendship. And that their friendship is the key to the whole sort of shebang. He [elder Spock] said, 'Don't take my word for it.' And he handed him [younger Spock] a little holographic device and it projected Shatner. It was basically a Happy Birthday wish knowing that Spock was going to go off to Romulus, and Kirk would probably be dead by the time."

Orci added: "It turned into a voiceover, at the end of the movie."

Sounds OK enough, and would have worked for what it was.

The problem with resurrecting Kirk is that is something that would probably need it's own story and not a two line mention in the background.

And Shatner himself has written a series of novels in which Kirk is resurrected in the TNG movie era.  So they'd either have to turn those into a movie or they'd have to contradict what's in the novels.  Which I suppose wouldn't be that big a deal, since no Star Trek novel is considered canonical anyway.  But still, fans of the novels (which there are a few, myself being one of them) might be upset.  Anyway... 

[Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck]

And Shatner himself has written a series of novels in which Kirk is resurrected in the TNG movie era.

Well, Judith Reeves-Stevens and Garfield Reeves-Stevens ghost wrote them but...

Ever read one? 

[Doctor Who?]

Can anyone tell me what the Romulans have against safety railings?

Their whole ship seems to be made up of ledges but not a single safety railing.

[Tripe]

Can anyone tell me what the Romulans have against safety railings?

Their whole ship seems to be made up of ledges but not a single safety railing.

Safety railings are like the philosophy of Surak, they place limits where no true Romulan needs such things. 

[mrbasehart]

Can anyone tell me what the Romulans have against safety railings?

Their whole ship seems to be made up of ledges but not a single safety railing.

Safety railings killed practically half the crew in Space Mutiny. 

[a pretty girl is like]

Can anyone tell me what the Romulans have against safety railings?

Their whole ship seems to be made up of ledges but not a single safety railing.

On a related note, why does the engineering section of the Enterprise have more giant pipes than a Mario Bros. level?

[BBQ Platypus]

Can anyone tell me what the Romulans have against safety railings?

Their whole ship seems to be made up of ledges but not a single safety railing.

Safety railings killed practically half the crew in Space Mutiny. 

"I still support the railing system!"

[Doctor Who?]

Can anyone tell me what the Romulans have against safety railings?

Their whole ship seems to be made up of ledges but not a single safety railing.

On a related note, why does the engineering section of the Enterprise have more giant pipes than a Mario Bros. level?

And why does it look like a basement?

[BBQ Platypus]

Can anyone tell me what the Romulans have against safety railings?

Their whole ship seems to be made up of ledges but not a single safety railing.

On a related note, why does the engineering section of the Enterprise have more giant pipes than a Mario Bros. level?

Well, presumably, the warp core would need SOMETHING to cool it - and what better way to do that than with water?

[Rude]

On a related note, why does the engineering section of the Enterprise have more giant pipes than a Mario Bros. level?

I heard it was filmed at a Budweiser plant. Apparently the Enterprise runs on beer... awesome!

-Rude

[Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck]

Can anyone tell me what the Romulans have against safety railings?

Their whole ship seems to be made up of ledges but not a single safety railing.

On a related note, why does the engineering section of the Enterprise have more giant pipes than a Mario Bros. level?

And why does it look like a basement?

I was having Space Mutiny flashbacks during that scene ("Doesn't all this basement make the ship bottom-heavy?")

And the lack of railings is because there was some kind of rule passed that states that all sci-fi movies have to have a fall down a deep, deep chasm...Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi, Serenity, Nemesis just to name a few.

[bettertomorrowamy]

("Doesn't all this basement make the ship bottom-heavy?")

Bottom heavy?  It's in space.  They use artificial gravity generators.  I'm sure they can compensate for it.

[Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck]

("Doesn't all this basement make the ship bottom-heavy?")

Bottom heavy?  It's in space.  They use artificial gravity generators.  I'm sure they can compensate for it.

You've never seen Space Mutiny?

[Bob]

("Doesn't all this basement make the ship bottom-heavy?")

Bottom heavy?  It's in space.  They use artificial gravity generators.  I'm sure they can compensate for it.

You've never seen Space Mutiny?

Not everyone gets the jokes.

[gbeenie]

As much as I enjoyed the film, whenever they showed the Engineering areas, I also thought about Space Mutiny. Being a MSTie does have its burdens.