Star Wars: The Force Awakens - Spoilertastic Thread

[MartyS (Gromit)]

You're not thinking about making the movie or how it would look on screen.  CGI oceans still don't look quite right, toxic atmosphere and you'd have everyone behind a mask, Jungle or swamp could be done well but you lose the need to scavenge ship parts for food, it would be hunting for food instead.  Rey's knowledge of empire technology is what allows her to evade capture after she escapes Ren.

You don't want your new characters hidden behind layers of protective gear the entire time you are introducing them.
A surface you could crash on and walk away from was also needed.
A surface BB-8 could wander freely around was also needed.
Crashed empire ships were needed.
Scavenging those ships to buy food as the primary way to survive was needed.

To get all that the options are pretty sparse, tundra might have worked and be something new, but stuff does grow on tundra so it would have been a bit more difficult to portray Rey's life as on the edge of starvation.

I don't see why scavenging, which is a thing that happens in literally every society at some point, is limited to desert and tundra. A planet like Mandalore where the atmosphere is toxic would be fine, since the citizens live in dome cities. As for hiding the hero behind protective gear... did we not forget the fact that the first times we see her, she's covered head to toe in desert gear? Haven't people made a big deal about the fact that the first time we see three of the characters, they're wearing MASKS? I don't see how putting her in gear that suits the climate and having a different type of planet then the massively over done desert is a bad thing.

Rey was covered for how many minutes on screen?  After the first reveal I'm not sure she ever puts that mask back on?

Once Finn turns hero he is mask free.

Wearing a mask is kind of a big deal symbolically in Star Wars.

Besides that how does a planet with a toxic atmosphere allow Poe and Finn to crash and walk away?  And we wouldn't have the scene with Rey sitting outside the ATAT putting on the helmet, I love that little scene.   I put ALL in the last line for a reason.  If you want a completely different movie say so, but as written there are not a lot of choices for the type of environment for the planet they start on.

I liked what the characters did and how things interconnected as written, so wouldn't want to change that by altering the type of planet for reasons that have nothing to do with the plot. 

[ScottotD]

You're wasting your time, some people will just look for any reason to not like it

Luke's lightsabre going into Rey's hand is more Star Wars than anything in the prequels, it just is.  If you need to not like it because you don't like Star Trek being popular that's your own bullshit to deal with.

[Quantum Vagina]

Again, you assume that I don't like the movie. I liked it. Liking it and having problems with it aren't mutually exclusive. All I'm saying is that the creative decisions could've been different and kept the theme of the first movie without slavishly adhering to it.

[Edward J Grug III]

It wasn't Tatooine because there was never a massive space battle directly above Tatooine in any of the previous movies that would have led to the crash of a Star Destroyer. Making it a planet we haven't heard of means we don't know its history and we don't need to answer the question of "when did that happen?" right away.

This isn't really the answer. Because all that stuff on jakku didn't happen until after RotJ anyway, so it could just as easily have been Tattooine.

That entirely depends on if they have plans to reveal the story of what went down on the planet though.

As Jonalame said, they already did, really. In two different books.

Are those books still considered canon?

[The Lurker]

It wasn't Tatooine because there was never a massive space battle directly above Tatooine in any of the previous movies that would have led to the crash of a Star Destroyer. Making it a planet we haven't heard of means we don't know its history and we don't need to answer the question of "when did that happen?" right away.

This isn't really the answer. Because all that stuff on jakku didn't happen until after RotJ anyway, so it could just as easily have been Tattooine.

That entirely depends on if they have plans to reveal the story of what went down on the planet though.

As Jonalame said, they already did, really. In two different books.

Are those books still considered canon?

Considering they're tie-ins to the movie...

[The Lurker]

Also, Rebels slipped in a reference to something from Shadows of the Empire so that may still be canon.

[Edward J Grug III]

It wasn't Tatooine because there was never a massive space battle directly above Tatooine in any of the previous movies that would have led to the crash of a Star Destroyer. Making it a planet we haven't heard of means we don't know its history and we don't need to answer the question of "when did that happen?" right away.

This isn't really the answer. Because all that stuff on jakku didn't happen until after RotJ anyway, so it could just as easily have been Tattooine.

That entirely depends on if they have plans to reveal the story of what went down on the planet though.

As Jonalame said, they already did, really. In two different books.

Are those books still considered canon?

Considering they're tie-ins to the movie...

Ah, they are new? Fair enough. Still, it doesn't mean none of it will appear in a future Star Wars movie.

[Compound]

Not directly Ep 7 related, but there are rumors circulating that the upcoming season of Rebels will be drawing from the EU for plots and some characters. So it looks like the same person or people who made reference to SotE are trying to get more of the EU back into canon.

[The Lurker]

Not directly Ep 7 related, but there are rumors circulating that the upcoming season of Rebels will be drawing from the EU for plots and some characters. So it looks like the same person or people who made reference to SotE are trying to get more of the EU back into canon.

Yeah. http://www.starwarsunderworld.com/2016/01/rumor-fan-favorite-legends-character-to.html

[ScottotD]

WOW! I have to start watching Rebels 

[Russell AKA Soguru]

Rian Johnson I heard wrote BOTH episodes 8 and 9... so I am REALLY looking forward to what's going to happen. Not to toot the horn way too early or anything but I think it's going to be AMAZING. 

[Relaxing Dragon]

Rian Johnson I heard wrote BOTH episodes 8 and 9... so I am REALLY looking forward to what's going to happen. Not to toot the horn way too early or anything but I think it's going to be AMAZING. 

Seconded. He's by far the most talented individual involved in any of the new Star Wars movies, so I'm super excited to see what he comes up with.

[The Lurker]

Uhh...
http://www.gamezone.com/news/you-can-finally-sleep-with-star-wars-the-force-awakens-poe-dameron-3431677

[goflyblind]

Uhh...
http://www.gamezone.com/news/you-can-finally-sleep-with-star-wars-the-force-awakens-poe-dameron-3431677

finally.

[ScottotD]

Uhh...
http://www.gamezone.com/news/you-can-finally-sleep-with-star-wars-the-force-awakens-poe-dameron-3431677

finally.

He is pretty dreamy