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Star Wars: The Force Awakens - Spoilertastic Thread

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Quote from: Russell Soguru on January 11, 2016, 11:44:54 AM
I'd also like to throw this out there... early on in the film it was established he can easily stop laser shots in mid-air. He either let his guard down too much... indicating he was so profoundly regretful of what he did, or he allowed himself to be shot.

This is exactly how it goes in the novel, he is deep in thought because he wasn't feeling the way he expected to, he felt weaker instead of stronger,  so he wasn't paying attention to what was going on around him when Chewie shot him.

Russell AKA Soguru

I really need to understand how the Dark side suppresses ones individuality to the point it did with Ren. I think things could get dark... possibly even going so far as introducing concepts like Force Possession. Maybe all Kylo Ren needs is an exorcism, a la King Theoden.

Kete

I think the Force in the future movies should be crazy strong.  Like, there is an awakening, and now even untrained people can do stuff that previously took years of training.  Once Rey is trained, she can do anything like Neo or Mace Windu in the Clone Wars cartoons
(this one: , not this one: ).

Russell AKA Soguru

Yeah... Mace Windu in the movies wasn't exactly super-powered.

In KOTOR, Jedi Bastila Shan had this thing called "Battle Meditation" that helped maximize the effectiveness of fleet maneuvers and offensives which also minimized casualties.

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Quote from: Russell Soguru on January 11, 2016, 04:23:31 PM
Yeah... Mace Windu in the movies wasn't exactly super-powered.


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I think Mace in the cartoons is actually pretty fuckin' sick. I'm rather enjoying the hell out of the Clone Wars. Ahsoka gets annoying at times, but the Anakin in them does a much better job than Christensen did.

Russell AKA Soguru

I would never criticize the Clone Wars TV series, mostly because I watched very little of them, plus I have only heard good things about it. I've watched some of Rebels, and I've liked that but it doesn't really generate a lot of excitement for me.

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Quote from: Kete on January 11, 2016, 03:55:30 PM
I think the Force in the future movies should be crazy strong.  Like, there is an awakening, and now even untrained people can do stuff that previously took years of training.  Once Rey is trained, she can do anything like Neo or Mace Windu in the Clone Wars cartoons
(this one: , not this one: ).

I see the first Clone Wars cartoon as sort of what uninformed people (in-universe) thought the Clone Wars were like--it's big, over the top, and...well, cartoonish.  TCW (the CG series) is much better, in my opinion. Maybe less stylish, definitely less stylized, but overall much better. It fits with the rest of the universe a lot better too, not such an outlier.

Russell AKA Soguru

Just avoid the animated Clone Wars film. Not much good in that one.

The Lurker

I like the first series because it gave Grievous development the movie didn't 

SJP

I think what the Clone Wars CG cartoons proved overall was that people outside of Lucas could handle the property well and make it well-rounded with good characterization, but still exciting and action-packed.  It certainly goes a long way to making the main cast much more believable, and of anything involving the prequels, it's the best thing to come out of them.

But like Red Dwarf, you kind of have to grit your teeth to get through the movie and about half of the first season (or season 2, for some).  The animation (especially the lighting) got much more polished, and the writers seemed to get into a groove they never really left.

As for the original Clone Wars mini-series...yeah, they're not very deep, but damn is it entertaining.  I just wish they were available in hard copy on HD.
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Quote from: SJP on January 12, 2016, 12:32:11 PM
I think what the Clone Wars CG cartoons proved overall was that people outside of Lucas could handle the property well and make it well-rounded with good characterization, but still exciting and action-packed.  It certainly goes a long way to making the main cast much more believable, and of anything involving the prequels, it's the best thing to come out of them.

But like Red Dwarf, you kind of have to grit your teeth to get through the movie and about half of the first season (or season 2, for some).  The animation (especially the lighting) got much more polished, and the writers seemed to get into a groove they never really left.

As for the original Clone Wars mini-series...yeah, they're not very deep, but damn is it entertaining.  I just wish they were available in hard copy on HD.

They did a really in depth breakdown of the Clone Wars mini series on the Hitting Play podcast I occasionally guest spot on.