40 QUESTIONS TIME - 04/06/07

[Douglin]

Is this one gonna be rated "all-ages" like Nestor was? On the one hand it's a kids movie, on the other hand Neil Patrick Harris can be pretty funny when he lets loose. I submit for your consideration, the extended dirty names for Marshall's truck list:

...embed damn you!

oh well here it is:http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=2015409479

and also because it's awesome, the slapbet episode montage:
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1654663518

[Petey Wheatstraw]

The soundtrack?!   My, that would be a good way to get guests who overstay their welcome to leave.

Yeah, but even then you're better off just getting a copy of Yoko Ono and John Lennon's Cambridge 1969 and putting it on... LOUD. 

Well, that music, I do like.

[AmazingThor]

So whats the overwhelming opinion on NPH? I'm skeptical, but then again I was skeptical of Chad Vader and Lowtax and their riffs turned out great. I will remain cautiously optimistic.

[BathTub]

I am looking forward to it, Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is a really interesting choice, especially since it's a musical, going to be something quite different.

[Minnesota]

A Mike Nelson / Niel Patrick Harris collaboration song perhaps?

*shakes magic 8 ball* ... "all signs point to yes"

[BathTub]

Certainly possible, we know Mike has written a song or two before.

[6079SmithW]

This will be worth it for the riffs about that creepy, creepy, creepy candyman alone.

Who can break my door down? Kill my folks like sheep?
Cut off lots of bits and leave me dead while I'm asleep
The candyman can! Yes the candyman can.

[gbeenie]

This will be worth it for the riffs about that creepy, creepy, creepy candyman alone.

Who can break my door down? Kill my folks like sheep?
Cut off lots of bits and leave me dead while I'm asleep
The candyman can! Yes the candyman can.

[Petey Wheatstraw]

This will be worth it for the riffs about that creepy, creepy, creepy candyman alone.

Who can break my door down? Kill my folks like sheep?
Cut off lots of bits and leave me dead while I'm asleep
The candyman can! Yes the candyman can.

YES...I saw that. Now THAT was a great movie. Probably the first slasher movie with a black killer (or not. There were a lot of blaxploitation films back in the '70s).

[J-Proof]

The first adaptation is awful, but the second adaptation is both an excellent film and adaptation. It captures the spirit of the book better. I don't hate Gene Wilder, don't get me wrong, but his performance as Wonka was awful in the 1971 version. But what really gets to me are the goddamn songs. I actually have a relative who owns the soundtrack to this thing -- who wants to listen to "Oompa-Loompa-Dinkity-Doo" 167 times? (I'm guessing that's the number of times it takes before you finally decided to grab the gun out of your desk, put it to your temple, and pull the trigger.)

Holy cow, man! I haven't met many people that are pro-Burton on the Wonka spectrum, so congrats on being one of the first =)

I like both -- the first much more than the second... but I like the second one also.

PS - Roald Dahl WROTE the screenplay for the 1971 movie lol -- so any complaints about the spirit of the first movie can be laid at his gravestone =)

[kodiakthejuggler]

Mikey Wonka
Mikey Wonka
the Amazing Riffatier!

Mikey Wonka
Mikey Wonka
everybody give a cheer!

Never knew Mike would riff this one...

With help from Neil Patrick Harris, no less!!

[PlayMSTie]

I never cared much for Dahl.

*Ducks lightning bolts*

Sorry, but I just didn't. I never really got what he was all about.

[BathTub]

PS - Roald Dahl WROTE the screenplay for the 1971 movie lol -- so any complaints about the spirit of the first movie can be laid at his gravestone =)

Yeah it's funny I essentially grew up beleiving that RD hated the film, and that it was changed to WW so it wouldn't be confused with his work, but of course on the DVD he is very involved and the name change was to pimp Quaker Wonka Bars which didn't pan out.

[Petey Wheatstraw]

PS - Roald Dahl WROTE the screenplay for the 1971 movie lol -- so any complaints about the spirit of the first movie can be laid at his gravestone =)

WRONG. Dahl wasn't responsible for the mess that was FILMED. His screenplay was heavily rewritten by David Seltzer, who screwed up Dahl's book so badly that he refused to give the producers the rights to the book's sequel. Dahl would have been pleased with Burton's version.

I essentially grew up beleiving that RD hated the film

He did hate the film.

[J-Proof]

RD wrote the screenplay, with Metzer underneath him. Metzer and Stuart had to tweak many changes to the screenplay that simply wouldn't film well.

Reference: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0312352409/sr=1-5/qid=1156781258/ref=sr_1_5/102-4366613-6511330?ie=UTF8&s=books

Dahl approved every change made, and understood that he was a children's book author, not a screenwriter. The thing that really set Dahl ablaze, and was responsible for many "Dahl hated this movie" rumors was the changing of the very last line of the movie.

Dahl had the last line thusly:
GRANDPA JOE: "Yippee!!"

Stuart saw this and thought wtf? I can't end this movie with Joe saying yippee... So this is what he and Metzer agreed upon last minute (more or less):
WONKA: "Don't forget what happened to the boy who suddenly got everything he ever wanted..."
CHARLIE: "What happened to him?"
WONKA: "He lived happily ever after..."
"Come with me... and you'll be..."

Given the choice between the two, I take Stuart and Metzer's... But this is the biggest issue that Dahl had with the movie. The movie wasn't titled "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory" b/c of Dahl, it was retitled because "Charlie" and the chocolate factory aggravated the stereotypes of the time, and didn't promote Quaker's new Wonka Bar (the organization that funded for the movie).

As for the entire argument over whether or not Dahl liked the movie -- who cares? The movie is a movie, and the book is a book. Which is a better movie? I think the 71 version of the movie is -- and is rightly a classic. I also think the second Wonka is a good movie, but less likeable than the first.

I wouldn't let anyone else shape my opinion of a piece of art, even if that person is the guy who's idea it was to create the piece of art... Otherwise I'd be a Bohemian Warhol-lover.