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Edward J Grug III

Quote from: LucasM on January 11, 2016, 05:44:33 PM
I am still going to stay (firmly) on record that Adam Warlock needs to be introduced and well established before Infinity War begins (hopefully in BOTH GotGalaxy2 and maybe even snuck into Ragnarok).  Because without him, Infinity War would be like filming "The Killing Joke" without Batman.

Given how little Civil War seems to resemble the comic storyline, Infinity War might be very different too.
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Russell AKA Soguru

Quote from: Edward J Grug III on January 11, 2016, 06:14:19 PM
Given how little Civil War seems to resemble the comic storyline, Infinity War might be very different too.
I agree. I'm not even sure they'll want to or even be able to introduce certain characters, such as Death and Mephisto. I'm trying to see how the Russos could make them work but introduce them in earlier Marvel films that are still to come. As for the graphic novel, I must admit it was interesting to see that those powerful entities(Death, Mephisto, Eternity, Galactus, The living Tribunal, etc) are easily dwarfed as far as power goes by Thanos when he has the infinity gauntlet.

Darth Geek

I really really hope they do use Death as Thanos' love interest! It makes his motivations so much more unique than the typical "I want to rule the world universe".

But to do that properly it would be best to introduce Death as a character beforehand. I'm thinking maybe in Dr Strange.

As for the 67 characters, I'm hoping that Agent Caulson is in it. I'm enjoying Agents of SHIELD, but to not have him show up or be mentioned in Age of Ultron seemed odd. His death was a useful event to make them work together, but they don't really need that anymore. There's no reason to not tell these people that their friend is still alive.


LucasM

Quote from: Darth Geek on January 11, 2016, 07:12:05 PM
I really really hope they do use Death as Thanos' love interest! It makes his motivations so much more unique than the typical "I want to rule the world universe".

But to do that properly it would be best to introduce Death as a character beforehand. I'm thinking maybe in Dr Strange.

As for the 67 characters, I'm hoping that Agent Caulson is in it. I'm enjoying Agents of SHIELD, but to not have him show up or be mentioned in Age of Ultron seemed odd. His death was a useful event to make them work together, but they don't really need that anymore. There's no reason to not tell these people that their friend is still alive.

I agree with everything here; these statements have the LucasM Seal of Approval. ;D
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Darth Geek

Quote from: LucasM on January 11, 2016, 07:15:20 PM
Quote from: Darth Geek on January 11, 2016, 07:12:05 PM
I really really hope they do use Death as Thanos' love interest! It makes his motivations so much more unique than the typical "I want to rule the world universe".

But to do that properly it would be best to introduce Death as a character beforehand. I'm thinking maybe in Dr Strange.

As for the 67 characters, I'm hoping that Agent Caulson is in it. I'm enjoying Agents of SHIELD, but to not have him show up or be mentioned in Age of Ultron seemed odd. His death was a useful event to make them work together, but they don't really need that anymore. There's no reason to not tell these people that their friend is still alive.

I agree with everything here; these statements have the LucasM Seal of Approval. ;D
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LucasM

Quote from: Edward J Grug III on January 11, 2016, 06:14:19 PM
Quote from: LucasM on January 11, 2016, 05:44:33 PM
I am still going to stay (firmly) on record that Adam Warlock needs to be introduced and well established before Infinity War begins (hopefully in BOTH GotGalaxy2 and maybe even snuck into Ragnarok).  Because without him, Infinity War would be like filming "The Killing Joke" without Batman.

Given how little Civil War seems to resemble the comic storyline, Infinity War might be very different too.

True (and thank goodness they are changing Civil War - that bored the heck out of me, besides being drastically absurdist ["let's ignore all the bad guys who keep each of us busy and potentially near-death in every single issue of our own comics, in order to fight amongst ourselves for a year and jail half the good heroes who have been just barely keeping this tide of evil-doers from taking over"  Sheer stupidity at its core.]).

But still: Thanos without Warlock is like the Joker without Batman - it can be done, it just isn't remotely as interesting.  Yin without Yang.  Chaos without Order.  Outrageous evil without occasionally-overly-introspective-and-angsty good. ;D
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Russell AKA Soguru

Yeah, Adam Warlock will probably(I hope) be in Guardians Volume 2. I would love to see him. He's so damn cool. It's funny to think that if he is indeed Star Lord's father, Yondu referred to him as an "idiot".

Darth Geek

Quote from: Russell Soguru on January 11, 2016, 09:38:12 PM
Yeah, Adam Warlock will probably(I hope) be in Guardians Volume 2. I would love to see him. He's so damn cool. It's funny to think that if he is indeed Star Lord's father, Yondu referred to him as an "idiot".
I thought he called him a "jackass"?


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LucasM

Starlord's father has been revealed in the comics to be someone else (who actually is a jackass... or maybe more of an asshole...).  Adam Warlock is an artificially created being from Earth, where Nova Prime clearly said Starlord was only 1/2-human (possibly splitting hairs there, as 'Him' was from Earth, but not a normal biological Earthling).

Warlock of course, doesn't quite fit 'human', particularly having had a few evolutionary bumps in his chrysalis.  That chrysalis gives me hope, because that oddly 'chrysalis-like object' in the background of the Collector's cabinets in Guardians 1 was confirmed by James Gunn to be Warlock's.  The breakage releasing Howard the Duck and Cosmo (the psychic dog) could potentially have taken Warlock's chrysalis out of whatever stasis it may have been in.


OK... for those who have no clue what the F we're talking about, I'm gonna' plug this again: Warlock, the Complete Collection by Jim Starlin    It was the first truly great Marvel cosmic storytelling.
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Russell AKA Soguru

I'd like Deadpool to show up and say to Star Lord "I am your father" and then say "Just kidding, but it would make sense with how you held the infinity stone for so long"

RoninFox

Quote from: Russell Soguru on January 12, 2016, 12:10:49 AM
I'd like Deadpool to show up and say to Star Lord "I am your father" and then say "Just kidding, but it would make sense with how you held the infinity stone for so long"

This and the idea of Death being personified in the movies as she is in the comics really makes me wish the new Deadpool movie was in the MCU instead of being a Fox film...though that is the only complaint I can think of for the buildup to Deadpool.
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Darth Geek

I wonder if Howard the Duck is one of the 67 characters? That would be awesome, even if it was just another cameo.


Pak-Man

Give him a chance to show off his Quack-Fu!

EDIT TO ADD: Actually, the fact that they pulled in a talent like Seth Green JUST to voice that little end-credit scene tells me they have bigger plans for him. Or at least that they want to keep that option viable.

RoninFox

Quote from: Pak-Man on January 12, 2016, 07:17:04 AM
Give him a chance to show off his Quack-Fu!

EDIT TO ADD: Actually, the fact that they pulled in a talent like Seth Green JUST to voice that little end-credit scene tells me they have bigger plans for him. Or at least that they want to keep that option viable.

Knowing how big Seth Green is, it could be a matter of him and James Gunn having a drink one day.

Gunn: You wanna be Howard the Duck?

Green: Name the f***ing time!
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