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Batman VS Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)

Started by Henry88, October 20, 2013, 01:51:53 PM

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Darth Geek

What I hated the most was that he gave up his powers, even briefly. And considering that Clark never met Zod without his powers, it's really just pointless. I've already mentioned in my Man of Steel review how much I hate hate HATE the scene in the diner in Superman 2 where the huge muscular Clark gets beat up by a guy significantly smaller than him.
I would never say Superman 2 is worse than Man of Steel. But there are a lot of issues with it, regardless of cut.


soguru

Quote from: Darth Geek on November 28, 2015, 09:28:40 PM
What I hated the most was that he gave up his powers, even briefly. And considering that Clark never met Zod without his powers, it's really just pointless. I've already mentioned in my Man of Steel review how much I hate hate HATE the scene in the diner in Superman 2 where the huge muscular Clark gets beat up by a guy significantly smaller than him.
I would never say Superman 2 is worse than Man of Steel. But there are a lot of issues with it, regardless of cut.
That's the funny thing too, upon seeing the Richard Donner cut, I thought... this isn't much better. Superman 2 also kind of started what almost became a trend, where Superman pleads "No! Don't do it, the people!", and he says practically the same line in Superman 4 when Nuclearman starts blowing shit up after shouting "If you do not tell me... I will hurt people!"

Pak-Man

Superman 2 is the one where they just kind of show up at the Fortress of Solitude after he gave up his powers, right? That always struck me as a pretty big plot hole.

"Well I'm a normal person, only capable of normal person things."
*JUMP CUT*
"Well, here we are at my Fortress of Solitude! The solitude comes from the fact that it's located where no normal person could reasonably reach."

ScottotD

Also there's little nick-picky stuff like if Lex is a bajillionaire why does he have a staff of 3 totally useless morons? 


Now I want to riff the Superman Series
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Darth Geek

Quote from: ScottotD on November 29, 2015, 03:23:06 AM
Also there's little nick-picky stuff like if Lex is a bajillionaire why does he have a staff of 3 totally useless morons? 
Yeah, that's what always bothered me with Hackman's Luthor. He's way too cartoony. They spent so much in effects to make me believe a man can fly, but they couldn't get a good actor to make me believe that Luthor was a real threat?


Quote from: ScottotD on November 29, 2015, 03:23:06 AM
Now I want to riff the Superman Series
I'd love to see the first and second ones riffed. The third and fourth are so bad it's not as much of a challenge.


soguru

I want to see 3 and 4 riffed, just because I kind of liked them as a kid... but their appeal wears off when you realize how silly and bad they are.

Edward J Grug III

I would prefer to see 3 and 4 riffed too. I generally find riffing of good movies pretty dull.
FINE

RoninFox

The potential issue of riffing 3 is that you'll have people chiming in with "but it's supposed to be a comedy, look at Richard Pryor" while completely missing that nothing Pryor did in that movie was funny.
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Parker_Hylton

I really liked Man of Steel.  I do think the battle in the city carried on way too long, and Supes did too much damage for everyone to just blow it off (which may account for the anti-supes hate in the supes v batman trailer.  I loved the LexCorp truck getting blowed up, nice nod to the classic villain and a possible nod to the next flick.

As for the old ones well...I was pretty young then.  I did like them then...haven't watched in forever. 

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ScottotD

If this turns out to be the biggest budget gay porn ever I will be pretty happy about it
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RoninFox

Yyyyup, shouldn't have watched the trailer. Already was going to see the movie and they're just giving away things that should have stayed rumors I was ignoring.

I need to start avoiding trailers in general now.
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ScottotD

Eh, I kind of liked it.  It had the tone and melodrama I expected plus Jesse Eisenberg seems like he's having fun and Affleck is a badass
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RoninFox

Quote from: ScottotD on December 03, 2015, 05:37:51 AM
Eh, I kind of liked it.  It had the tone and melodrama I expected plus Jesse Eisenberg seems like he's having fun and Affleck is a badass

Don't get me wrong, I agree with those points and the beginning of the trailer is great, it just gives away too much at the end. I'm fine going into the movie knowing the basics of Lex Luthor's plan. I don't want to know his back-up plan too. I know there's been rumors about it for months upon months, but I've been trying to avoid them and put them all in the file of "could be random fanboy rumor BS, forget it". I didn't want to see those rumors confirmed until I'm actually watching the movie.
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Darth Geek

Wow...that was SO much worse than I was expecting. And I hated Man of Steel. I will be avoiding this like the plague.