Holy crap, it's Rorshach!

[ImOscardotcom]

I've really liked both his previous movies and I don't pay attention to critics. Also, as much as I'm drooling about it and love the book if it turns out I don't like the movie for whatever reason then I'm not one of those people that will get all worked up about it claiming they "ruined the book", etc because I'll still have the book.

I've actually been wondering about that: if/when the film turns out to suck, will the fact that they still have the book be any consolation to the fanboy/girls? They've been so worked up for this movie that they've-in my opinion-been almost sort of gloating-especially over Moore (there was an article I read a while back that I'll have to try and find again, but I believe that its title was 7 Reasons Alan Moore Should See The Watchmen Movie). It's like they've already substituted the book with the movie in their minds. 

Has anyone else noticed this, or am I just mistaken?

[ScottotD]

That happens a lot (see the many variations of 'Hollywood raped my childhood' threads and pretty much any thread discussing a sequel, adaption or remake) and I've never understood it. I don't see that fans of something that's being (re)made ever have anything to lose.

Worst case is you don't like the movie then that still leaves you with what you had before plus possibly even a greater appreciation of what it means to you, best case is you like the movie and now there's another aspect of something you already liked to enjoy. 

[ImOscardotcom]

That happens a lot (see the many variations of 'Hollywood raped my childhood' threads and pretty much any thread discussing a sequel, adaption or remake) and I've never understood it. I don't see that fans of something that's being (re)made ever have anything to lose.

Worst case is you don't like the movie then that still leaves you with what you had before plus possibly even a greater appreciation of what it means to you, best case is you like the movie and now there's another aspect of something you already liked to enjoy. 

Well, I can sort of understand where they're coming from considering that the sequel/adaption/remake is now going to be more widely known than the original. But they wanted this adaptation. They cheered it on. Even after it was said to be unfilmable, even after nearly 25 years passed, even after the writer of the book said that he would oppose any and all attempts to film it, they still wanted it. And the studios saw that there was an audience for it and-after making sure it was, uh, "suitable" for eveybody else-they gave it to them. If it sucks, sure, of course the creative team and the studios are to blame, but they also, at least partially, have themselves to blame as well. But of course they won't. Ah, well.

[Doctor Who?]

I think prequels can wreck old movies more then anything.

Now whenever I watch the old Star Wars movies I can't get it out of the back of my mind that Darth Vader once said "I hate sand" and that he turned to the dark side for no good reason.  No matter how much i want to pretend the prequels didn't happen they are always in the back of my mind.

[ImOscardotcom]

The other issue is that of impressions. When I read a book, for example, I 'see' it in my head. How I visualize it depends on my experiences.  Maybe sometimes it comes from the cover. Sometimes it probably comes from movies I've seen--maybe not the movie of the work in question, but other movies.  And once those impressions are there, I can't just "erase" them.

I have to fight, when I read Lord of the Rings, NOT to see Peter Jackson's vision of the characters, because for the most part I disagree with them.  So that's what people mean, I think. That's what I mean.

Now, that holds true for novels/stories. But something like a comic book is already visual; not sure what could be altered here?

Yeah, that's another reason why I'm not seeing this movie-and also why I don't watch riffs of 'good' films. Much as I like Mike, Bill, and Kevin, I don't want to be reminded of them every time I watch Jaws or Memento.

[ScottotD]

And with movies...I think later versions can ruin a movie. I've often said that Alien 3 takes away from Aliens, because you know what happens to those characters whom you like and want to make it.  It's possible for later movies to ruin earlier ones, even if it's only a little bit.

I can see where you're coming from with that I suppose, I don't think I agree though (beside the fact I like Alien 3 better than Aliens) I think a movie with Ripley and Newt would have been interesting but the fact 3 isn't that movie doesn't effect my enjoyment of it.  I tend to take movies more at face value as their own entity, even if by defintion they're not I guess.

[Relaxing Dragon]

Well (and there's an excellent chance I'm missing the point here), sometimes you can, depending on the situation. Consider a movie where a character dies in the sequel (or even towards the end of the movie itself), or there's some really big plot twist. When you re-watch it, can you still enjoy it just as much even though you know that that person is going to die or know what the twist is? I say that you can, because the movie still has all the enjoyable elements to it, surprises aside.

Watchmen example (spoilers for book):
With Watchmen, when you read it again you know that Rorshach dies in the end. But you don't think about that every momenet, you don't lose enjoyment of the character thinking "oh jeex, he's just going to kick it at the end".

[Relaxing Dragon]

Alright, then apply it to when (if) you see the movie

I dunno, guess we just differ there. I just know I can watch (random example) Fight Club over and over and still like it the same way I always did.

[ScottotD]

I think in theory you're right--but it doesn't really work that way because you can't divorce your past and your biases from judging your present or future. 

I pretty much can, I don't see the point in getting angry about something I'm doing for fun.

[ScottotD]

No, I get upset (the levels of negativity about things on here irritates me reguIarly for example) I just try to keep perspective with things and their importance in my life. 

[bratpop]

USA Weekend had an exclusive Dave Gibbons Watchmen-movie-version poster in it. It is now on my wall. Shweet.

[SaucyRossy]

http://www.slowmofo.com/editorials/watchingthewatchmen.html

hey everyone check that article out, pretty cool read.

[BathTub]

Well I enjoyed it, it's long, and there's lots of blue penis, but it was pretty decent.

[Scrivener]

Well I enjoyed it, it's long, and there's lots of blue penis, but it was pretty decent.

You're just begging us to reply "That what she said," aren't you?

[Doctor Who?]

Just thought I would let you know that the DvD and Blue Ray of the motion comic comes with a ticket to the movie.